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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 5:33:20 PM
#152:


Kineth posted...
Meanwhile, McCarthyists are perfectly fine with excessive amounts of farm subsidies that f*** with the prices of goods and the materials used, therein. You wanna talk about a controlled economy? Talk about real s*** instead of these glorified horror fantasies you have in your head.


wat? i've seen plenty of conservatives say we should stop subsidizing farming because it just results in throwing away a lot of food
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Kineth
08/14/18 5:40:13 PM
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They're likely smart people if they're actually concerned with efficiency. Still, that misses the point that what is that policies like those, that manipulate prices and have the government's grubby mitts all over the various stages of that market, are what much closer to what socialism is and what people think socialism is Especially compared to just using tax dollars to invest in your infrastructure and your citizens.
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Cosmic_Diabetic
08/14/18 5:44:12 PM
#154:


FLUFFYGERM is a closeted socialist.
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Funbazooka
08/14/18 5:45:43 PM
#155:


It's okay to punch socialists.
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mario2000
08/14/18 5:48:49 PM
#156:


"om nom nom yes feed me more fox news propaganda" - user Funbazooka
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rikasa
08/14/18 5:54:57 PM
#157:


First we should see how UBI works in practice by giving it to black people. Because really they deserve reparations considering how oppressed they are economically due to our racist history. If it greatly improves their living conditions and helps lessen inequality, maybe it would be good for the country as a whole. Right now black families have $5 for every $100 that a white family has and that's clearly not fair.
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Funbazooka
08/14/18 5:55:47 PM
#158:


mario2000 posted...
"om nom nom yes feed me more fox news propaganda" - user Funbazooka

Fox news more like faux news
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Burgess
08/14/18 5:56:05 PM
#159:


Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
FLUFFYGERM is a closeted socialist.


There's nothing closeted about it.
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BWLurker
08/14/18 5:58:56 PM
#160:


Burgess posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
FLUFFYGERM is a closeted socialist.


There's nothing closeted about it.

It would actually fit, lol. Like all those anti gay congressmen that are hardcore against it, but get caught with the water boy.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 6:22:06 PM
#161:


rikasa posted...
First we should see how UBI works in practice by giving it to black people. Because really they deserve reparations considering how oppressed they are economically due to our racist history. If it greatly improves their living conditions and helps lessen inequality, maybe it would be good for the country as a whole. Right now black families have $5 for every $100 that a white family has and that's clearly not fair.


> we need universal basic income!!!!

> b-but just for some people!!!!!
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DarthAragorn
08/14/18 6:25:24 PM
#162:


This country is fucked
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GreatEvilEmpire
08/14/18 6:27:50 PM
#163:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
rikasa posted...
First we should see how UBI works in practice by giving it to black people. Because really they deserve reparations considering how oppressed they are economically due to our racist history. If it greatly improves their living conditions and helps lessen inequality, maybe it would be good for the country as a whole. Right now black families have $5 for every $100 that a white family has and that's clearly not fair.


> we need universal basic income!!!!

> b-but just for some people!!!!!


You won't get honesty from Socialists. They have more agendas than anyone I've seen.

They say it's good for society, but it's just good for them. Bunch of selfish losers who don't care about the long term consequences as long as it serves their short-term needs.
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mario2000
08/14/18 6:35:10 PM
#164:


They say it's good for society, but it's just good for them. Bunch of selfish losers who don't care about the long term consequences as long as it serves their short-term needs.

but enough about billionaires
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GreatEvilEmpire
08/14/18 6:47:43 PM
#165:


mario2000 posted...
They say it's good for society, but it's just good for them. Bunch of selfish losers who don't care about the long term consequences as long as it serves their short-term needs.

but enough about billionaires


Why are you so jelly? Is it because you're too lazy to make anything of yourself, so you attack people who are way more successful than you are?
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mario2000
08/14/18 6:49:30 PM
#166:


why do rightists think it's about "being jelly"
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NurseRedHeart
08/14/18 6:53:30 PM
#167:


Uneducated idiots love the concept of socialism.

They should move to Venezuela
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voldothegr8
08/14/18 6:57:05 PM
#168:


mario2000 posted...
why do rightists think it's about "being jelly"

You're right, it's also about laziness.
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mario2000
08/14/18 7:03:05 PM
#169:


NurseRedHeart posted...
Uneducated idiots love the concept of socialism.

They should move to Venezuela

nice avatar
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BWLurker
08/14/18 7:15:02 PM
#170:


mario2000 posted...
NurseRedHeart posted...
Uneducated idiots love the concept of socialism.

They should move to Venezuela

nice avatar

It's hilarious when bronies call anyone uneducated idiots. Alex G is quite the hypocrite.
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Lunar_Savage
08/14/18 7:17:48 PM
#171:


I still find it weird people protect the ultra wealthy because they think they have the freedom to also pursue infinite wealth. When the reality is they don't.
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TheSextMachine
08/14/18 7:28:47 PM
#172:


Doom_Art posted...
A fair number of people I've spoken to associate socialism with the former (even tho Scandanavia isn't really socialist) and not so much the latter

And the bigger the country the more towards the latter you will end up. Socialism will never work in bigger communities/countries.
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antfair
08/14/18 7:34:57 PM
#173:


I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.
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Cheater87
08/14/18 7:42:00 PM
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AcFan87
08/14/18 7:47:28 PM
#175:


They hate America so of course they would.
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cerealbox760
08/14/18 8:29:24 PM
#176:


antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


People double down in their beliefs when the opposing side berates them. Trumpers didnt begin as devout Trumpers and democrats didn't begin as socialists. If socialism is associated with Obama and not Trump guess what happens? In terms of persuasion insulting the opposing side has the opposite effect.
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Funbazooka
08/14/18 8:47:27 PM
#177:


cerealbox760 posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


People double down in their beliefs when the opposing side berates them. Trumpers didnt begin as devout Trumpers and democrats didn't begin as socialists.

True. I was barely interested in politics before Trump won the nomination. Even voted for Obama. After he won the nomination I noticed all the hatred and rage from the Democrats and the Democrat owned establishment media (other than Fox News of course). It really piqued my interest. I'm not saying I won't ever vote for a Democrat again but it's gonna take a hell of a lot for them to earn my trust again.
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The Great Muta 22
08/14/18 8:53:51 PM
#178:


Funbazooka posted...
cerealbox760 posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


People double down in their beliefs when the opposing side berates them. Trumpers didnt begin as devout Trumpers and democrats didn't begin as socialists.

True. I was barely interested in politics before Trump won the nomination. Even voted for Obama. After he won the nomination I noticed all the hatred and rage from the Democrats and the Democrat owned establishment media (other than Fox News of course). It really piqued my interest. I'm not saying I won't ever vote for a Democrat again but it's gonna take a hell of a lot for them to earn my trust again.


That makes total sense considering how shallow your depth of political insight truly is
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Funbazooka
08/14/18 9:14:03 PM
#179:


It's flattering to be obsessed over.
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darkjedilink
08/14/18 9:18:22 PM
#180:


mario2000 posted...
why do rightists think it's about "being jelly"

Because it is.
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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 9:55:15 PM
#181:


antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


this is a good post tbqh. what is your main?
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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 9:55:46 PM
#182:


Lunar_Savage posted...
I still find it weird people protect the ultra wealthy because they think they have the freedom to also pursue infinite wealth. When the reality is they don't.


I'm not ultra wealthy and I do have that freedom.
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BWLurker
08/14/18 10:01:46 PM
#183:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


this is a good post tbqh. what is your main?

That's Antifar
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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 10:02:43 PM
#184:


BWLurker posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


this is a good post tbqh. what is your main?

That's Antifar


can't be
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The Great Muta 22
08/14/18 10:03:48 PM
#185:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...
I still find it weird people protect the ultra wealthy because they think they have the freedom to also pursue infinite wealth. When the reality is they don't.


I'm not ultra wealthy and I do have that freedom.


You're a early college grad, at best, who grew up upper middle class. Stfu
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BWLurker
08/14/18 10:04:10 PM
#186:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
BWLurker posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


this is a good post tbqh. what is your main?

That's Antifar


can't be

I'd almost bet on it. He's made "let's check in on" topics on that alt. I don't think he's trying to stay hidden
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AcFan87
08/14/18 10:06:56 PM
#187:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
cerealbox760 posted...
antfair posted...
I'm not generally one to agree with Krugman, but I do think there's an element of this at play:
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1029008916984881152
The GOP spent 8 years calling Obama and his policies socialist. He isn't, and rejected the label. But they might have been hustling backwards in labeling a president that most people basically like a socialist.

Even DSA folks can be iffy as to what actually constitutes socialism; I imagine it's much the same among Democrats at large.


People double down in their beliefs when the opposing side berates them. Trumpers didnt begin as devout Trumpers and democrats didn't begin as socialists.

True. I was barely interested in politics before Trump won the nomination. Even voted for Obama. After he won the nomination I noticed all the hatred and rage from the Democrats and the Democrat owned establishment media (other than Fox News of course). It really piqued my interest. I'm not saying I won't ever vote for a Democrat again but it's gonna take a hell of a lot for them to earn my trust again.


That makes total sense considering how shallow your depth of political insight truly is

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Doom_Art
08/14/18 10:08:12 PM
#188:


AcFan87 posted...
Wow hostility like that just makes your side so appealing (eye roll)

"You better be nice to me or else!"

That's u
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FLUFFYGERM
08/14/18 10:11:50 PM
#189:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Lunar_Savage posted...
I still find it weird people protect the ultra wealthy because they think they have the freedom to also pursue infinite wealth. When the reality is they don't.


I'm not ultra wealthy and I do have that freedom.


You're a early college grad, at best, who grew up upper middle class. Stfu


lmao what are you even blabbering about still brother?
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AcFan87
08/14/18 10:12:23 PM
#190:


Doom_Art posted...
AcFan87 posted...
Wow hostility like that just makes your side so appealing (eye roll)

"You better be nice to me or else!"

That's u

Okay then.....
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Questionmarktarius
08/16/18 4:00:27 PM
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