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Funbazooka
08/08/18 6:33:03 PM
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New 'Star Trek' reboot starring Patrick Stewart is CBS' latest All Access offering. But who's the audience?
The show is a dream come true for many "Next Generation" fans, but something of a retreat from the progressivism of Star Trek: Discovery.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/new-star-trek-reboot-starring-patrick-stewart-cbs-latest-all-ncna898121

CBS is using the nostalgic reboot to placate the (white, male) demographic that felt alienated by the networks first Trekkie reboot Discovery, a show which was legitimately diverse and therefore immediately controversial.

A show focused on an aging white male hero, known for his calm equilibrium and wisdom, is a sharp U-turn from Discovery, which stars a diverse crew focusing on a young woman of color, played by Sonequa Martin-Green.

Much like Lucasfilm, the producers of Discovery also found themselves running up against the same small group of toxic vocal white males for whom opening the fandom in this manner was anathema.

But it seems that CBS, a network struggling with diversity problems and allegations of institutional sexism, remains committed to appealing to its older white fans.

Stewart, who is viewed as a savvy Hollywood player, hopefully has enough control over the new show to steer it in a legitimately progressive direction, under the guise of a white male hero premise.
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tamashiini
08/08/18 6:34:05 PM
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Oh, for fuck's sake.
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VipaGTS
08/08/18 6:34:07 PM
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tbf white nerds has always been the demographic for Star Trek >_>.
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Cheater87
08/08/18 6:35:35 PM
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Really, people are attacking Star Trek now???
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HylianFox
08/08/18 6:35:41 PM
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Picard > Kirk
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Bad_Mojo
08/08/18 6:36:29 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Really, people are attacking Star Trek now???


Attack everything!
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Funbazooka
08/08/18 6:36:45 PM
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Star Trek Discovery is okay as a space fantasy adventure type show that follows the JJ Abrams nu-Trek style but it's not really Star Trek
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Southernfatman
08/08/18 6:37:09 PM
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Yeah, that's totally why people hate Discovery. Not because it's pretty much not Star Trek.
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Muffinz0rz
08/08/18 6:37:24 PM
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the only question
i ever thought was hard
was do i like kirk
or do i like picard
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YourDrunkFather
08/08/18 6:38:04 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
A show focused on an aging white male hero


*Gasp*
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AlisLandale
08/08/18 6:38:49 PM
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You know, Im okay with this.

If we live in a society so relatively peaceful, that "is Star Trek progressive enough?" is one of the things we're arguing over, Ill count my blessings.

I have now come to terms with the bizarre world in which I live. I love you all.
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HylianFox
08/08/18 6:38:58 PM
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also LOL @ Patrick Stewart "aging", that man is wine
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gmanthebest
08/08/18 6:42:08 PM
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Star Trek Discovery sucks because it's not really Star Trek, not because of diversity.
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darkphoenix181
08/08/18 6:44:22 PM
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That white fear oozing out of every paragraph
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HylianFox
08/08/18 6:44:25 PM
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the irony is that TOS was controversial because it had a diverse cast
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Esrac
08/08/18 6:47:44 PM
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I find it weird that they seem to pursue diversity as an end unto itself. They normalize it and any back step is a moral failing. That's sure how it seems some times
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Funbazooka
08/08/18 6:49:25 PM
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HylianFox posted...
the irony is that TOS was controversial because it had a diverse cast

The irony is that a white male, Gene Rodenberry, was responsible for it!
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HylianFox
08/08/18 6:49:55 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
HylianFox posted...
the irony is that TOS was controversial because it had a diverse cast

The irony is that a white male, Gene Rodenberry, was responsible for it!

Gene was an idealist and naive as fuck about the future of humanity.
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darkjedilink
08/08/18 6:50:30 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
What the fuck?
This came from NBC News?

It's an opinion piece by some white 20-something woman with blue hair, who apparently works for SyFy.
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jpenny2
08/08/18 6:51:19 PM
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Were people really upset because the main character was female and non-white? I didn't like that the main character was so unlikable and that the show spent so much time on her rather than anyone else. Hell, by the end of the first season, I still didn't know the names of half the bridge crew.
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darkphoenix181
08/08/18 6:51:56 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
What the fuck?
This came from NBC News?

It's an opinion piece by some white 20-something woman with blue hair, who apparently works for SyFy.


Fixed
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darkjedilink
08/08/18 6:53:14 PM
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jpenny2 posted...
Were people really upset because the main character was female and non-white? I didn't like that the main character was so unlikable and that the show spent so much time on her rather than anyone else. Hell, by the end of the first season, I still didn't know the names of half the bridge crew.

No. We're upset because the show sucks because it doesn't follow a ship and her crew, instead a shitty cgaracter who's shoehorned next to the greatest minds of TOS-era Trek, with a story that violates already-established canon.
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kuwab0
08/08/18 6:53:22 PM
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AcFan87
08/08/18 6:54:38 PM
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Its 2018 TC, everything in existence is racist to liberals......even the keyboard you're typing on.
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hockeybub89
08/08/18 6:54:59 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
Its 2018 TC, everything in existence is racist to liberals......even the keyboard you're typing on.

"liberals"
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darkphoenix181
08/08/18 6:55:42 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
Its 2018 TC, everything in existence is racist to liberals......even the keyboard you're typing on.


But my keyboard is black.
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HylianFox
08/08/18 6:56:12 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
AcFan87 posted...
Its 2018 TC, everything in existence is racist to liberals......even the keyboard you're typing on.

"liberals"

yeah, there's a difference between liberals and people who go out of their way to be offended by everything (which includes people on the right)

i mean fuck, uppity conservatives are the grandparents of "let's get offended by everything"
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mario2000
08/08/18 6:56:50 PM
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why do conservatives have to make everything about race
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 6:56:54 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
I always knew Avery Brooks was White
Don't forget Kate Mulgrew is a "White Male", oh wait.... She's the first Female Captain in Star Trek History.

Long before Discovery and it's BS.
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legendarylemur
08/08/18 6:57:21 PM
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Patrick Stewert isn't a white male. Patrick Stewert is a Patrick Stewert
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 6:58:19 PM
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mario2000 posted...
why do conservatives have to make everything about race
The "Progressive" staff who helm Star Trek Discovery could've had the FIRST Asian Female Captain, but NOOOO; they had to kill of Michelle Yeoh's character at the end of the first 2 eps.
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jpenny2
08/08/18 6:58:37 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
jpenny2 posted...
Were people really upset because the main character was female and non-white? I didn't like that the main character was so unlikable and that the show spent so much time on her rather than anyone else. Hell, by the end of the first season, I still didn't know the names of half the bridge crew.

No. We're upset because the show sucks because it doesn't follow a ship and her crew, instead a shitty cgaracter who's shoehorned next to the greatest minds of TOS-era Trek, with a story that violates already-established canon.

For me, it was easily the worst season of Trek I've ever seen. They failed to grasp the simple concept that fans of Star Trek might want to watch a Star Trek show that actually resembles Star Trek. Diversity or no, it was a chore to watch.
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spudger
08/08/18 6:59:34 PM
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tamashiini posted...
Oh, for fuck's sake.

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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 7:00:56 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"liberals"
They aren't real liberals, they're Leftists.

Get that straight.
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prince_leo
08/08/18 7:01:47 PM
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jpenny2 posted...
For me, it was easily the worst season of Trek I've ever seen.

I mean, pretty much every first season of Trek has been shit
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pres_madagascar
08/08/18 7:02:05 PM
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I'm reaching the point where I kind of want to ignore the internet.
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HylianFox
08/08/18 7:02:23 PM
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prince_leo posted...
jpenny2 posted...
For me, it was easily the worst season of Trek I've ever seen.

I mean, pretty much every first season of Trek has been shit

Shut up, Wesley!
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pres_madagascar
08/08/18 7:02:36 PM
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Like, I think I'm going to start reading books again and going for hikes and shit. The world is losing its fucking mind and I want no part of it.
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Cleo_II
08/08/18 7:03:47 PM
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As a female, Discovery sucks. Cant wait for Picard to return
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Southernfatman
08/08/18 7:06:18 PM
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Oh yeah, and to answer the author's question of "Who's the audience?"

Star Trek fans. The group CBS forgot all about apparently.
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sktgamer_13dude
08/08/18 7:17:22 PM
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>opinion article
>GUYS THIS IS LEGIT FACTS GOSH

And TC wonders why people think he is a joke.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 7:19:34 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
>opinion article
>GUYS THIS IS LEGIT FACTS GOSH

And TC wonders why people think he is a joke.
It's a garbage opinion written by somebody who doesn't understand Trek and the fanbase that already exists behind it.
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Fin_Dawg_004
08/08/18 7:20:02 PM
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ty for telling me what Ani fucking Bundel thinks
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darkjedilink
08/08/18 7:23:08 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
mario2000 posted...
why do conservatives have to make everything about race
The "Progressive" staff who helm Star Trek Discovery could've had the FIRST Asian Female Captain, but NOOOO; they had to kill of Michelle Yeoh's character at the end of the first 2 eps.

They literally don't care about the captain in this show. This show is Burnham and Friends.

They said since the announcement that the show isn't about the ship, Captain, or crew, but Burnham.
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jpenny2
08/08/18 7:23:27 PM
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prince_leo posted...
jpenny2 posted...
For me, it was easily the worst season of Trek I've ever seen.

I mean, pretty much every first season of Trek has been shit

True, but at least every other first season made me care about one or two characters and generally kept me engaged enough that I wanted more.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/08/18 7:24:55 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
This show is Burnham and Friends.

They said since the announcement that the show isn't about the ship, Captain, or crew, but Burnham.
I know, that was the FIRST STRIKE against ST:DSC IMO.
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silentwing26x
08/08/18 7:27:26 PM
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since when does nbc publish anti-white racism?
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creativerealms
08/08/18 7:30:31 PM
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What? Discovery was hated by what it did to the klingons. Hating Star Trek descovery for being progressive is dumb. It's always been progressive.

Don't let a small group of bigots represent all the haters.
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creativerealms
08/08/18 7:32:08 PM
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Discovery is very much Star Trek. It has a lot of problems bit not being star Trek? What? That's not one of them.
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