Poll of the Day > Another Disney child actress has their life go to shit and OD's on heroin

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Jen0125
07/24/18 11:05:02 PM
#51:


Mead posted...
DrPrimemaster posted...
I was listening to someone talk about heroin addiction and they said you get into it because it starts out feeling completely manageable. You take some and you just feel good for a bit, then it creeps up on you.


A lot of folks are getting prescribed fentanyl nowadays too for pain management which is insane. The stuff is so much more addictive than heroin it destroys entire families


A lot of heroin and meth is getting laced with fentanyl lately too without the user being told and it's causing a LOT of deaths.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/24/18 11:08:16 PM
#52:


Mead posted...
Does she usually almost die though

Well, she's been in rehab multiple times, has been addicted to cocaine for something like 8-10 years in spite of claiming to be clean and sober multiple times (and then admitting later she was lying every one of those times), she used to be (and may still be) a cutter, she was bulimic for years, and she's been medicated for bipolar disorder.

Can't even really blame Disney too much in her case, because she's openly claimed that her childhood was somewhat abusive, and a lot of her problems started long before they ever discovered her. Becoming a child (well, teen) star probably didn't help matters, but she was a giant ball of fucked up even before that.

So it's the sort of pattern of behavior where you kind of look at it and go, yeah, this bitch is probably going to be dead before she's 30. Especially since every time she comes out and does an interview and goes "Man, I was really bad before but I'm good now", it comes out later that she was lying (in one case, she mentioned that she was basically strung out on coke during the interview she was doing about how great it was to be clean and sober). It seems like whatever deep-buried issues she's got, she's not really getting to the root of them and actually fixing her problems no matter how many times she goes to rehab.


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Jen0125
07/25/18 3:18:33 AM
#53:


Actually Jack I might see what you're saying now. Just because she was given narcan doesn't necessarily mean it was heroin or opioids because the EMTs will give it for any OD situation? Idk why it took me so long to get that. Cripes.

My brain is still all fucked up from my alcohol abuse. It's going to take me years to get this shit back to normal. Sometimes I can't even remember words or phrases.
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Revelation34
07/25/18 6:24:04 AM
#54:


ASlaveObeys posted...
How are we supposed to know what they OD'd on?
You don't wait around to ask questions with narcan. Time is more important.
You just give it.


Giving drugs to people without asking questions is a wonderful idea.
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Mead
07/25/18 6:28:08 AM
#55:


Revelation34 posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...
How are we supposed to know what they OD'd on?
You don't wait around to ask questions with narcan. Time is more important.
You just give it.


Giving drugs to people without asking questions is a wonderful idea.


If theyre clearly dying of an opiate overdose maybe do the thing that keeps them from dying
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Keebs05
07/25/18 6:56:38 AM
#56:


Revelation34 posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...
How are we supposed to know what they OD'd on?
You don't wait around to ask questions with narcan. Time is more important.
You just give it.


Giving drugs to people without asking questions is a wonderful idea.

It only takes 10 minutes without oxygen for the brain to incur damage. If there are no opioids in the system, narcan literally does nothing. No harm is done by giving narcan to someone who doesn't actually need it. Narcan is an automatic treatment on suspected overdoses by EMS, fire, police, etc.
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RoboXgp89
07/25/18 6:58:17 AM
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your life doesn't go to **** once you've used
maybe if you use a needle but fent is killing lots of people who don't deserve to die
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SmokeMassTree
07/25/18 7:10:39 AM
#58:


Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.
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WarGreymon77
07/25/18 7:12:34 AM
#59:


Damn, when I see a title like that of the thread, my first thought is that she died.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 1:47:13 PM
#60:


SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 1:51:02 PM
#61:


Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.

Diamorphine is heroin and I was given it for daily use after hand surgery.
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OhhhJa
07/25/18 1:58:23 PM
#62:


Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.

If its pain medication then it basically is since they're morphine based. Benzos aren't much better either though
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Jen0125
07/25/18 3:31:52 PM
#63:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.

Diamorphine is heroin and I was given it for daily use after hand surgery.


They don't use that in the US
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Jen0125
07/25/18 3:33:12 PM
#64:


OhhhJa posted...
Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.

If its pain medication then it basically is since they're morphine based. Benzos aren't much better either though


"basically is" isn't is. Opioids and heroin may be similar or in the same family but they aren't the same.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 3:35:06 PM
#65:


Jen0125 posted...
They don't use that in the US

And billions of people live outside the US.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 3:35:34 PM
#66:


Jen0125 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.

If its pain medication then it basically is since they're morphine based. Benzos aren't much better either though


"basically is" isn't is. Opioids and heroin may be similar or in the same family but they aren't the same.

True, Krokadil is in the same family.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 3:37:26 PM
#67:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
They don't use that in the US

And billions of people live outside the US.


Yeah but we're talking about the US because Demi Lovato lives in the US.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 3:40:06 PM
#68:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
They don't use that in the US

And billions of people live outside the US.


Yeah but we're talking about the US because Demi Lovato lives in the US.

Demi Lovato is international, as is heroin use.
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SmokeMassTree
07/25/18 3:54:15 PM
#69:


Jen0125 posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I wouldn't have guessed she was a heroin user based on her appearance to be quite honest.


Millions of people use heroin daily. They just get it in pill form from a doctor.


That's.. Not heroin.



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Jen0125
07/25/18 4:14:01 PM
#70:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
They don't use that in the US

And billions of people live outside the US.


Yeah but we're talking about the US because Demi Lovato lives in the US.

Demi Lovato is international, as is heroin use.


She tours internationally but if you want to talk about international drug use you can do that. I'm talking about medication in the US because we're talking about a US national.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 4:19:26 PM
#71:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
They don't use that in the US

And billions of people live outside the US.


Yeah but we're talking about the US because Demi Lovato lives in the US.

Demi Lovato is international, as is heroin use.


She tours internationally but if you want to talk about international drug use you can do that. I'm talking about medication in the US because we're talking about a US national.

She's also a woman, are we talking specifically about US women's heroin use? She's also a celebrity, shall we only cite celebrity examples of heroin's effects? She's also white, shall we get completely intersectional and only mention things Demi Lovato has personally experienced?

Shut up, we're talking about heroin and Demi Lovato.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 4:21:26 PM
#72:


Well I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I already said what I am talking about so I'm not going to argue it.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 4:30:43 PM
#73:


Jen0125 posted...
Well I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I already said what I am talking about so I'm not going to argue it.

And you don't get to decide what other people are talking about.
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SunWuKung420
07/25/18 4:49:02 PM
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I'll bet her addiction started with prescription opiates.
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Mead
07/25/18 4:57:08 PM
#75:


Okay sunny
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faramir77
07/25/18 5:03:16 PM
#76:


SunWuKung420 posted...
I'll bet her addiction started with prescription opiates.


I keep hearing this being stated as a reason for people to develop addictions to illegal drugs.

I know about 10 people that got into hard illegal drugs, particularly cocaine and heroin. Literally none of them developed it from prescriptions. All of them started because they got absorbed into a toxic party culture.
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Mead
07/25/18 5:04:22 PM
#77:


faramir77 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I'll bet her addiction started with prescription opiates.


I keep hearing this being stated as a reason for people to develop addictions to illegal drugs.

I know about 10 people that got into hard illegal drugs, particularly cocaine and heroin. Literally none of them developed it from prescriptions. All of them started because they got absorbed into a toxic party culture.


Why do you know so many people that do hard drugs
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faramir77
07/25/18 5:05:35 PM
#78:


Mead posted...
faramir77 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I'll bet her addiction started with prescription opiates.


I keep hearing this being stated as a reason for people to develop addictions to illegal drugs.

I know about 10 people that got into hard illegal drugs, particularly cocaine and heroin. Literally none of them developed it from prescriptions. All of them started because they got absorbed into a toxic party culture.


Why do you know so many people that do hard drugs


Where do you think they got them from

jks
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WarGreymon77
07/25/18 5:56:17 PM
#79:


I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 6:03:55 PM
#80:


WarGreymon77 posted...
I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.

It's called sleeping.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 6:05:32 PM
#81:


WarGreymon77 posted...
I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.


you can OD on any drug and live
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 6:09:53 PM
#82:


Jen0125 posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.


you can OD on any drug and live

Not true. If the correct dose of a drug is to make you barely able to breathe and get asphyxiation highs, an overdose is to suffocate and die.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 6:12:25 PM
#83:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.


you can OD on any drug and live

Not true. If the correct dose of a drug is to make you barely able to breathe and get asphyxiation highs, an overdose is to suffocate and die.


what drug has a correct dosage that has that effect?
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Kyuubi4269
07/25/18 6:15:06 PM
#84:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
I didn't realize somebody could OD on heroin and live.


you can OD on any drug and live

Not true. If the correct dose of a drug is to make you barely able to breathe and get asphyxiation highs, an overdose is to suffocate and die.


what drug has a correct dosage that has that effect?

Dunno. Digitalis slows your heart and kills you by stopping it so I don't see why a drug couldn't do the same to your lungs.

I also dislike your use of "correct", inplying a lot of illicit drugs aren't just taking an incorrect dose of something used for other purposes.
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Jen0125
07/25/18 6:17:34 PM
#85:


okay so you don't know any drug that does that and you're making up some hypothetical drug to say what i said is not true.

that's makes total sense.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
I also dislike your use of "correct", inplying a lot of illicit drugs aren't just taking an incorrect dose of something used for other purposes.


you used the word correct first? tf?

you seriously just like arguing for the sake of arguing. this is getting ridiculous.
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ClarkDuke
07/25/18 6:25:40 PM
#86:


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Why do you even acknowledge Fr's shitposts? Just block him and move on. Fr never leaves his house or watches the news so it's not like he's ever going to contribute anything meaningful. Usually it's just weirdass trolling aimed at me.

You and OhhhJa, feel everyone's out for you, that's classic signs of paranoia, ok?

Please, seek out help, your father and I worry so, ok?
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