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voldothegr8 07/17/18 10:31:27 AM #1:	WOW what a PR shitstorm that's about to descend upon MGM https://www.newsweek.com/mgm-sues-over-1000-las-vegas-shooting-victims-avoid-liability-massacre-1027695 MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims of the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting in a bid to avoid any liability claims from the massacre, according to reports. The owners of the Mandalay Bay hotel, where gunman Stephen Paddock positioned himself to repeatedly fire at the crowd attending the Route 91 Harvest country music festival last October, said they could not be held responsible for the deaths and injuries resulting from the shooting, and all claims against them must be dismissed, reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal. According to the complaints filed in Nevada and California, the company, which also owns the Route 91 Harvest festival location, took reasonable steps to ensure such an atrocity did not occur and that it has no liability of any kind to defendants. Hundreds of lawsuits have been filed against the company in the wake of last Octobers shooting, which left 58 people dead and more than 850 injured. Suits claim the company was negligent for not properly monitoring who was entering and leaving the building and allowing Paddock to take an arsenal of weapons and several thousand rounds of ammunition up to his hotel room before committing the attack. Las Vegas lawyer Robert Eglet, who is representing several of the victims, described the lawsuits as a blatant display of judge shopping that quite frankly verges on unethical. Ive never seen a more outrageous thing, where they sue the victims in an effort to find a judge they like, Eglet told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Its just really sad that they would stoop to this level. In a statement to 8 News Now, MGM spokeswoman Debra DeShong said: The unforeseeable events of October 1 affected thousands of people in Las Vegas and throughout North America. From the day of this tragedy, we have focused on the recovery of those impacted by the despicable act of one evil individual. While we expected the litigation that followed, we also feel strongly that victims and the community should be able to recover and find resolution in a timely manner. Congress provided that the Federal Courts were the correct place for such litigation relating to incidents of mass violence like this one where security services approved by the Department of Homeland Security were provided. The Federal Court is an appropriate venue for these cases and provides those affected with the opportunity for a timely resolution. Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of victims, the community and those still healing. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905229831] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>WOW what a PR shitstorm that's about to descend upon MGM <quote>https://www.newsweek.com/mgm-sues-over-1000-las-vegas-shooting-victims-avoid-liability-massacre-1027695 MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims of the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting in a bid to avoid any liability claims from the massacre, according to reports. The owners of the Mandalay Bay hotel, where gunman Stephen Paddock positioned himself to repeatedly fire at the crowd attending the Route 91 Harvest country music festival last October, said they could not be held responsible for the deaths and injuries resulting from the shooting, and all claims against them must be dismissed, reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal. According to the complaints filed in Nevada and California, the company, which also owns the Route 91 Harvest festival location, took reasonable steps to ensure such an atrocity did not occur and that it has no liability of any kind to defendants. Hundreds of lawsuits have been filed against the company in the wake of last Octobers shooting, which left 58 people dead and more than 850 injured. Suits claim the company was negligent for not properly monitoring who was entering and leaving the building and allowing Paddock to take an arsenal of weapons and several thousand rounds of ammunition up to his hotel room before committing the attack. Las Vegas lawyer Robert Eglet, who is representing several of the victims, described the lawsuits as a blatant display of judge shopping that quite frankly verges on unethical. Ive never seen a more outrageous thing, where they sue the victims in an effort to find a judge they like, Eglet told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Its just really sad that they would stoop to this level. In a statement to 8 News Now, MGM spokeswoman Debra DeShong said: The unforeseeable events of October 1 affected thousands of people in Las Vegas and throughout North America. From the day of this tragedy, we have focused on the recovery of those impacted by the despicable act of one evil individual. While we expected the litigation that followed, we also feel strongly that victims and the community should be able to recover and find resolution in a timely manner. Congress provided that the Federal Courts were the correct place for such litigation relating to incidents of mass violence like this one where security services approved by the Department of Homeland Security were provided. The Federal Court is an appropriate venue for these cases and provides those affected with the opportunity for a timely resolution. Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of victims, the community and those still healing.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 07/17/18 10:32:25 AM #2:	How is this even allowed? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:905229878] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>How is this even allowed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/17/18 10:35:15 AM #3:	shady as fuck and just trying to not spend money cause they are greedy and a huge company thinks it is better to save money than to help out people who's lives were ruined <cite>Zikten posted [p:905230012] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>shady as fuck and just trying to not spend money cause they are greedy and a huge company thinks it is better to save money than to help out people who's lives were ruined</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/17/18 10:39:05 AM #4:	Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:905230162] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopPotato 07/17/18 10:39:59 AM #5:	I don't understand.... Is MGM suing the victims before the victims sue MGM? Would you seriously have to go to court, hire a lawyer to represent you, and say, "yeah I'm not going to sue"? --- http://i.minus.com/i5EWBMXTN4ERv.gif <cite>PoopPotato posted [p:905230194] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>I don't understand.... Is MGM suing the victims before the victims sue MGM? Would you seriously have to go to court, hire a lawyer to represent you, and say, "yeah I'm not going to sue"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 07/17/18 10:40:00 AM #6:	What claim is the hotel stating? On what grounds is the hotel suing the victims? --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:905230195] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote> What claim is the hotel stating? On what grounds is the hotel suing the victims?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistalightbulb 07/17/18 10:40:54 AM #8:	capitalism <cite>mistalightbulb posted [p:905230246] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>capitalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/17/18 10:41:11 AM #9:	CruelBuffalo posted... Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905230257] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spanky1 07/17/18 10:41:55 AM #10:	I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? --- https://imgur.com/DCjoiZ0 <cite>spanky1 posted [p:905230301] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 07/17/18 10:43:08 AM #11:	spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:905230363] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spanky1 07/17/18 10:43:29 AM #12:	Also, aside from the article title, I think it's BS that MGM would get sued in the first place by victims. I guarantee you those same people would be pissed off if there were long lines and metal detectors to get into the hotel. --- https://imgur.com/DCjoiZ0 <cite>spanky1 posted [p:905230381] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Also, aside from the article title, I think it's BS that MGM would get sued in the first place by victims. I guarantee you those same people would be pissed off if there were long lines and metal detectors to get into the hotel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/17/18 10:46:41 AM #13:	This Hill article kind of explains it better. It's no less fucked up though. http://thehill.com/homenews/397379-casino-owners-sue-las-vegas-shooting-victims-to-try-to-avoid-legal-liability MGM Resorts International has filed lawsuits against more than 1,000 victims of the worst mass shooting in the United States in order to avoid liability. The suits, filed in federal courts in California and Nevada, argue that MGM, the owner of the Mandalay Bay hotel and the Route 91 Harvest festival, cannot be held liable for deaths and injures fro the mass shooting under a 2002 law passed by Congress, according to the Las Vegas Review Journal. The law gives immunity to companies that use "anti-terrorism" technology or services that can "help prevent and respond to mass violence," the Journal reports. As a result, claims against the MGM parties "must be dismissed," it said. The lawsuits come months after a 58 people were killed and hundreds were injured in a mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest festival. The shooter allegedly carried out the attack while overlooking the venue from his 32nd floor hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. The company argues that the federal law protecting it from being liable should apply in this case because the vendor MGM hired for Route 91, Contemporary Services Corp., had been certified by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for protecting against and responding to acts of mass injury and destruction.. It also argues that this extends to MGM, since MGM is the one that hired the security company. The Federal Court is an appropriate venue for these cases and provides those affected with the opportunity for a timely resolution," Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM, said in a statement to the Review Journal. "Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of victims, the community and those still healing." The FBI has yet to call the mass shooting that took place in Las Vegas an act of terrorism because the motive of the gunman remains unclear. Some critics of MGN see the company as seeking to find a favorable judge. The Journal quoted a lawyer for some victims, Robert Eglet, who accused MGM of court shopping. Ive never seen a more outrageous thing, where they sue the victims in an effort to find a judge they like, he told the Journal. Its just really sad that they would stoop to this level. Also here's a summary from dailymail MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905230520] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>This Hill article kind of explains it better. It's no less fucked up though. <quote>http://thehill.com/homenews/397379-casino-owners-sue-las-vegas-shooting-victims-to-try-to-avoid-legal-liability MGM Resorts International has filed lawsuits against more than 1,000 victims of the worst mass shooting in the United States in order to avoid liability. The suits, filed in federal courts in California and Nevada, argue that MGM, the owner of the Mandalay Bay hotel and the Route 91 Harvest festival, cannot be held liable for deaths and injures fro the mass shooting under a 2002 law passed by Congress, according to the Las Vegas Review Journal. The law gives immunity to companies that use "anti-terrorism" technology or services that can "help prevent and respond to mass violence," the Journal reports. As a result, claims against the MGM parties "must be dismissed," it said. The lawsuits come months after a 58 people were killed and hundreds were injured in a mass shooting at the Route 91 Harvest festival. The shooter allegedly carried out the attack while overlooking the venue from his 32nd floor hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino. The company argues that the federal law protecting it from being liable should apply in this case because the vendor MGM hired for Route 91, Contemporary Services Corp., had been certified by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for protecting against and responding to acts of mass injury and destruction.. It also argues that this extends to MGM, since MGM is the one that hired the security company. The Federal Court is an appropriate venue for these cases and provides those affected with the opportunity for a timely resolution," Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for MGM, said in a statement to the Review Journal. "Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of victims, the community and those still healing." The FBI has yet to call the mass shooting that took place in Las Vegas an act of terrorism because the motive of the gunman remains unclear. Some critics of MGN see the company as seeking to find a favorable judge. The Journal quoted a lawyer for some victims, Robert Eglet, who accused MGM of court shopping. Ive never seen a more outrageous thing, where they sue the victims in an effort to find a judge they like, he told the Journal. Its just really sad that they would stoop to this level.</quote> Also here's a summary from dailymail MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/17/18 10:46:57 AM #14:	Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. voldothegr8 posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway. This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:905230527] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway.</quote> This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/17/18 10:47:17 AM #15:	I don't see what claims MGM could have against the victims, and the article helpfully leaves that information out. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:905230534] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>I don't see what claims MGM could have against the victims, and the article helpfully leaves that information out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 07/17/18 10:48:00 AM #16:	--- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (5-6): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:905230569] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/17/18 10:50:31 AM #17:	Wow --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:905230680] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 10:51:54 AM #18:	Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905230743] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/17/18 10:53:56 AM #19:	Coffeebeanz posted... Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905230851] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/17/18 10:55:10 AM #20:	voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' As far as I know, you cant sue for a holding that you aren't liable. There's no harm upon which to state a claim. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:905230905] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> As far as I know, you cant sue for a holding that you aren't liable. There's no harm upon which to state a claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 10:55:33 AM #21:	voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905230933] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 07/17/18 10:56:24 AM #22:	murica --- https://giant.gfycat.com/ShowyWarmheartedCuscus.gif <cite>Looked gf posted [p:905230985] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>murica</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/17/18 10:57:24 AM #23:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. voldothegr8 posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway. This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties. Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:905231035] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway.</quote> This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties.</quote> Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/17/18 10:58:24 AM #24:	Coffeebeanz posted... voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light. Imagine actually sucking off these corrupt corporations --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:905231083] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light.</quote> Imagine actually sucking off these corrupt corporations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 07/17/18 10:58:40 AM #25:	I dont think they should be held responsible for the shooting (barring any proof of negligence) But this is not a good look for them. Just settle things quickly and quietly. >~> --- Sigs are for losers <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:905231097] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>I dont think they should be held responsible for the shooting (barring any proof of negligence) But this is not a good look for them. Just settle things quickly and quietly. >~></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 10:59:07 AM #26:	CruelBuffalo posted... Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. voldothegr8 posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway. This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties. Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting. I didn't know it was MGM's responsibility to prevent tragedies like this. Is it Disney World's responsibility to prevent measles outbreaks? --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905231113] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway.</quote> This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties.</quote> Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting.</quote> I didn't know it was MGM's responsibility to prevent tragedies like this. Is it Disney World's responsibility to prevent measles outbreaks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/17/18 10:59:34 AM #27:	Coffeebeanz posted... Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is, forcing them to get council, and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905231142] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue.</quote> Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is, forcing them to get council, and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 11:00:22 AM #28:	Blue_Inigo posted... Coffeebeanz posted... voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Nomadic View posted... spanky1 posted... I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better? Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. I pretty much always assume this MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical' Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light. Imagine actually sucking off these corrupt corporations Maybe we should have a litigation system that doesn't reward people pre-emptively for filing expensive, drawn-out lawsuits with the sole intention of settlement. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905231179] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spanky1 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I understand. The victims are suing MGM, so because of that, MGM is suing the victims? Can someone explain this better?</quote> Yeah, it doesnt make any sense. My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> I pretty much always assume this</quote> MGM Resorts International has filed suit against all Las Vegas massacre victims Lawsuit attempts to head off any future litigation by ruling that the company has no liability for injuries or deaths at Route 91 Harvest Music Festival MGM said 'years of drawn out litigation are not in the best interest of victims' Lawyer for some victims said the suit is 'outrageous' and 'bordering on unethical'</quote> Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. It's almost like a guy who stands to make millions of dollars suing MGM may have an interest in painting MGM in a negative light.</quote> Imagine actually sucking off these corrupt corporations</quote> Maybe we should have a litigation system that doesn't reward people pre-emptively for filing expensive, drawn-out lawsuits with the sole intention of settlement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 11:01:50 AM #29:	voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that. My guess is the "lawsuit" is seeking an immunity from lawsuit, not monetary damages. That's why using the term "lawsuit" is misleading to the average person because it usually implies suing for compensation. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905231249] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue.</quote> Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that.</quote> My guess is the "lawsuit" is seeking an immunity from lawsuit, not monetary damages. That's why using the term "lawsuit" is misleading to the average person because it usually implies suing for compensation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/17/18 11:03:06 AM #30:	Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:905231300] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/17/18 11:04:14 AM #31:	Smashingpmkns posted... Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened. I'm pretty sure Caesars owns more of the strip than MGM Edit: Upon a close look it's about half and half. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 4 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:905231356] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened.</quote> I'm pretty sure Caesars owns more of the strip than MGM Edit: Upon a close look it's about half and half.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhanJohnny 07/17/18 11:05:18 AM #32:	Coffeebeanz posted... voldothegr8 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue. Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that. My guess is the "lawsuit" is seeking an immunity from lawsuit, not monetary damages. That's why using the term "lawsuit" is misleading to the average person because it usually implies suing for compensation. I've never heard of anything like that in the American system of law, but maybe I'm wrong. That seems almost like an advisory opinion, which are not available in American law. <cite>KhanJohnny posted [p:905231403] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Lawyer [for people trying to sue MGM resorts] says suit is outrageous. In other news, amateur meteorologist says sky is blue.</quote> Oh I agree MGM shouldn't be held responsible, that's not the point though. The point is how tactless the act of suing every victim is and the PR shitstorm and people who won't stay at their properties now probably isn't worth it. If I owned it, I'd deal with the litigation of people suing and leave it at that.</quote> My guess is the "lawsuit" is seeking an immunity from lawsuit, not monetary damages. That's why using the term "lawsuit" is misleading to the average person because it usually implies suing for compensation.</quote> I've never heard of anything like that in the American system of law, but maybe I'm wrong. That seems almost like an advisory opinion, which are not available in American law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/17/18 11:08:40 AM #33:	MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims 58 people dead and more than 850 injured Something about the math doesn't seem right here... <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905231560] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><quote>MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims</quote> <quote>58 people dead and more than 850 injured</quote> Something about the math doesn't seem right here...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/17/18 11:11:00 AM #34:	Questionmarktarius posted... MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims 58 people dead and more than 850 injured Something about the math doesn't seem right here... No that sounds about right. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:905231663] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><quote>MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims</quote> <quote>58 people dead and more than 850 injured</quote> Something about the math doesn't seem right here...</quote> No that sounds about right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 07/17/18 11:11:47 AM #35:	Questionmarktarius posted... MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims 58 people dead and more than 850 injured Something about the math doesn't seem right here... Relatives to the dead and injured? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:905231691] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><quote>MGM Resorts International is suing more than 1,000 victims</quote> <quote>58 people dead and more than 850 injured</quote> Something about the math doesn't seem right here...</quote> Relatives to the dead and injured?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/17/18 11:12:19 AM #36:	Nomadic View posted... My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days. FAKE NEWS --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:905231725] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>My assumption is the facts are being misconstrued to push a narrative, as seems to be the case with most news stories these days.</quote> FAKE NEWS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1 07/17/18 11:15:13 AM #37:	They are going to screw over thousands of shooting victims just to save themselves. Fucking horrible. --- XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez The Topic Killer \_0_/ <cite>The Wheelman1 posted [p:905231865] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>They are going to screw over thousands of shooting victims just to save themselves. Fucking horrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/17/18 11:15:45 AM #38:	Eh, theyre right. Its not like ANY hotel checks peoples bags when they come in. Although it seems like theyre filing these suits against the victims so they can control the way court proceedings go Are parents suing schools after shootings? I dont think so --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:905231881] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Eh, theyre right. Its not like ANY hotel checks peoples bags when they come in. Although it seems like theyre filing these suits against the victims so they can control the way court proceedings go Are parents suing schools after shootings? I dont think so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 07/17/18 11:16:17 AM #39:	The Wheelman1 posted... They are going to screw over thousands of people just to save themselves. Fucking horrible. Screw over who now? Who's getting screwed over? --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:905231908] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Wheelman1 posted...</cite> <quote>They are going to screw over thousands of people just to save themselves. Fucking horrible.</quote> Screw over who now? Who's getting screwed over?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/17/18 11:17:35 AM #40:	voldothegr8 posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened. I'm pretty sure Caesars owns more of the strip than MGM Edit: Upon a close look it's about half and half. You're right it's around 10 MGM to 8 Caesar's. MGM has more rooms though. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:905231975] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> Let's be real for a second, this PR probably won't effect their Las Vegas revenue. They own like 90% of the strip and the locations they don't own are either outrageously expensive in comparison or straight garbage. This might effect their locations in the east but people will forget about this in a month if they even realize it happened.</quote> I'm pretty sure Caesars owns more of the strip than MGM Edit: Upon a close look it's about half and half.</quote> You're right it's around 10 MGM to 8 Caesar's. MGM has more rooms though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 11:36:45 AM #41:	Businesses have an obligation to provide a safe venue for people. The fact that the gunman rented a room in one venue and fired into another? Unless the security company was hired for both locations it shouldn't possibly apply that immunity law which itself only got passed in the post 911 frenzy of fuckery. For what it's worth pointing out, MGM could have settled individually with each victim or their family for less than they're spending on court costs. It's because they know if they settle, it's an acknowledgement that they messed up, thus bad press. But drag out cases long enough that ordinary people have to drop the suit or won't even break even with legal fees? It makes MGM avoid taking a hit from admitting responsibility. This tactic they're doing? It's like what McDonald's did to the coffee lady who wanted $20 grand for medical bills. Instead, they spent hundreds of thousands on a smear campaign, gained control of the narrative, lost, paid millions, then having narrative control managed to make her seem even worse for their own negligence and then got a PR bonus by saying "hey we're changing our policies to protect you". Or how Donald Trump would drag out litigation against victims by destroying records. He'd pay millions dragging out a case until the person suing died or dropped the suit. By dropping the suit, they also lose a lot of room to speak openly about what had been done to them. Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen. And that's why they're trying this lawsuit, because if they succeed then they'll never pay anyone a dime. But if they lose and then lose the case filed by victims, they'll pay hundreds of millions or billions in the process, but use their PR teams to spin the story as stuff like "look, these people suing aren't even victims they're walking around normally already like nothing happened, it didn't impact them at all" and that type of spin works well considering America still considers health care an individual responsibility, even though it means we pay more for less coverage. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905232786] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>Businesses have an obligation to provide a safe venue for people. The fact that the gunman rented a room in one venue and fired into another? Unless the security company was hired for both locations it shouldn't possibly apply that immunity law which itself only got passed in the post 911 frenzy of fuckery. For what it's worth pointing out, MGM could have settled individually with each victim or their family for less than they're spending on court costs. It's because they know if they settle, it's an acknowledgement that they messed up, thus bad press. But drag out cases long enough that ordinary people have to drop the suit or won't even break even with legal fees? It makes MGM avoid taking a hit from admitting responsibility. This tactic they're doing? It's like what McDonald's did to the coffee lady who wanted $20 grand for medical bills. Instead, they spent hundreds of thousands on a smear campaign, gained control of the narrative, lost, paid millions, then having narrative control managed to make her seem even worse for their own negligence and then got a PR bonus by saying "hey we're changing our policies to protect you". Or how Donald Trump would drag out litigation against victims by destroying records. He'd pay millions dragging out a case until the person suing died or dropped the suit. By dropping the suit, they also lose a lot of room to speak openly about what had been done to them. Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen. And that's why they're trying this lawsuit, because if they succeed then they'll never pay anyone a dime. But if they lose and then lose the case filed by victims, they'll pay hundreds of millions or billions in the process, but use their PR teams to spin the story as stuff like "look, these people suing aren't even victims they're walking around normally already like nothing happened, it didn't impact them at all" and that type of spin works well considering America still considers health care an individual responsibility, even though it means we pay more for less coverage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/17/18 11:38:52 AM #42:	gunplagirl posted... Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen. What do we really want then? Metal detectors and bag-searches at hotels? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:905232876] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen.</quote> What do we really want then? Metal detectors and bag-searches at hotels?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 11:41:45 AM #43:	Questionmarktarius posted... gunplagirl posted... Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen. What do we really want then? Metal detectors and bag-searches at hotels? We do that for county fairs which are generally at the same or a lesser scale than the music festival the victims attended. And given how many were also renting rooms at the hotel and just how massive the scale for the hotel is? Yeah, it's actually a reasonable precaution against such atrocities as this. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905233030] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote> Basically, MGM doesn't care about the money, it's about refusing to admit in any capacity that their actions may have allowed this to happen.</quote> What do we really want then? Metal detectors and bag-searches at hotels?</quote> We do that for county fairs which are generally at the same or a lesser scale than the music festival the victims attended. And given how many were also renting rooms at the hotel and just how massive the scale for the hotel is? Yeah, it's actually a reasonable precaution against such atrocities as this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/17/18 11:43:27 AM #44:	Coffeebeanz posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. voldothegr8 posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway. This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties. Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting. I didn't know it was MGM's responsibility to prevent tragedies like this. Is it Disney World's responsibility to prevent measles outbreaks? Reasonable expectations regarding customer safety, including health, are to be maintained. But no one is going to win in an lawsuit against Disney for measles because that could be any communicable disease unless Disney was not cleaning their parks to code <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:905233117] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine believing that these people should sue and win. The mgm absolutely is not responsible. <cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus....damn they have all the good hotels in Vegas...well. Not gonna stay at their hotels</quote> I much prefer Caesar's properties anyway.</quote> This, but rhumbar is a cool spot on mgm properties.</quote> Thats for MGM to prove in court that they have reasonable policies in place to prevent tragedies like this. And then preemply suing shooting victims so now shooting victims have to go and retain council. disgusting.</quote> I didn't know it was MGM's responsibility to prevent tragedies like this. Is it Disney World's responsibility to prevent measles outbreaks?</quote> Reasonable expectations regarding customer safety, including health, are to be maintained. But no one is going to win in an lawsuit against Disney for measles because that could be any communicable disease unless Disney was not cleaning their parks to code</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 07/17/18 11:51:32 AM #45:	This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:905233496] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 07/17/18 11:58:08 AM #46:	I think its kind of messed up, but a company has to take action when thousands of people are trying to sue them. How exactly is it their fault? Theyre probably being sued for an unfathomable amount. I feel terrible for the victims, but this sue everybody who was there attitude needs to stop. --- #MakeFinalFantasyGreatAgain <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:905233857] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>I think its kind of messed up, but a company has to take action when thousands of people are trying to sue them. How exactly is it their fault? Theyre probably being sued for an unfathomable amount. I feel terrible for the victims, but this sue everybody who was there attitude needs to stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/17/18 11:58:38 AM #47:	_RETS_ posted... This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest. Misleading headlines strike again --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905233876] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.</quote> Misleading headlines strike again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 11:58:53 AM #48:	_RETS_ posted... This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest. If their "we are protected from liability" thing held true they could simply use that defense in all the liability cases against them. Instead they're doing something which will require more time and money from victims to resolve --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905233892] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.</quote> If their "we are protected from liability" thing held true they could simply use that defense in all the liability cases against them. Instead they're doing something which will require more time and money from victims to resolve</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 07/17/18 12:01:37 PM #49:	gunplagirl posted... _RETS_ posted... This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest. If their "we are protected from liability" thing held true they could simply use that defense in all the liability cases against them. Instead they're doing something which will require more time and money from victims to resolve It seems like they are trying to avoid that case altogether by heading it off with established legal precedent. Like a pre-defense to avoid a long and drawn out (and expensive for all parties) trial. This really does seem like it is in the best interest for both parties from what little I've read about it this morning. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:905234023] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_RETS_ posted...</cite> <quote>This seems to be really misrepresented. MGM is being sued by the victims for liability. Their countersuit is on the grounds that they met the requirements for not being liable for a mass shooting event, so this is an effort to prevent any future liability litigation for this incident, which would not only be a losing case for the victims given the legal precedent, but also cost them a lot of time and money. MGM and other entities involved can (and likely have) still donate to the recovery funds of the victims and all that, but this suit isn't seeking any money from the victims. Just from browsing, this doesn't look like the "evil corporation does evil thing" narrative the headlines suggest.</quote> If their "we are protected from liability" thing held true they could simply use that defense in all the liability cases against them. Instead they're doing something which will require more time and money from victims to resolve</quote> It seems like they are trying to avoid that case altogether by heading it off with established legal precedent. Like a pre-defense to avoid a long and drawn out (and expensive for all parties) trial. This really does seem like it is in the best interest for both parties from what little I've read about it this morning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 07/17/18 12:19:14 PM #50:	It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm. --- Pew pew! <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:905234923] in MGM Resort... [t:76815438]...</cite> <quote>It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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