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07/17/18 12:23:59 PM
#51:


gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


I have no reason to side with MGM over anyone. If they can show, before a drawn out trial, that there is legal precedent protecting them against liability, then why waste the time and money going through the litigation? I don't think they are doing it BECAUSE it is in the best interest of the victims long term, but I do think it will end up having been in their best interest anyway.

Now, just out of humanity and solidarity, they should be (and should have already) set up charities and initiatives for the victims. Please let me know if they haven't if you've got more info on that.

Just from what I know of the event, what could they have done to prevent the massacre? What specific standard was in place that they didn't uphold that resulted in the shooting happening?
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Kushinadahime
07/17/18 12:28:02 PM
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I don't see why MGM should be held responsible. Seems like a reasonable tactic to preemptively squelch opportunistic lawsuits against them.
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Serious Cat
07/17/18 12:31:29 PM
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I'm really not seeing anything more insidious than a request for a change of venue or attempt to clarify jurisdiction here. Going with the suing victims narrative does sound sexy though.
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 12:31:50 PM
#54:


Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.
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SK8T3R215
07/17/18 12:35:25 PM
#55:


Kushinadahime posted...
I don't see why MGM should be held responsible. Seems like a reasonable tactic to preemptively squelch opportunistic lawsuits against them.


Same.
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_RETS_
07/17/18 12:35:50 PM
#56:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 12:37:02 PM
#57:


_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?
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Nomadic View
07/17/18 12:39:09 PM
#58:


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


It seems like theyre just moving for an injunction rather than any monetary gain.
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_RETS_
07/17/18 12:40:53 PM
#59:


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


And how? I am trying to figure out if you can articulate exactly what you are upset about. In what way are they trying to capitalize?

Btw, unrelated to you, found something showing he break down of relief funds that indicates MGM individually donated millions to the fund.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/las-vegas-victims-fund-to-begin-distributing-31-million-to-shooting-victims
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CruelBuffalo
07/17/18 12:43:40 PM
#60:


SK8T3R215 posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
I don't see why MGM should be held responsible. Seems like a reasonable tactic to preemptively squelch opportunistic lawsuits against them.


Same.


You think its reasonable to pre-emptly sue victims of a mass shooting so they now need to go an retain council, people who may not have even wanted to sue?
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thronedfire2
07/17/18 1:00:45 PM
#61:


CruelBuffalo posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
I don't see why MGM should be held responsible. Seems like a reasonable tactic to preemptively squelch opportunistic lawsuits against them.


Same.


You think its reasonable to pre-emptly sue victims of a mass shooting so they now need to go an retain council, people who may not have even wanted to sue?


The victims all have lawyers already if theyre suing. MGM is trying to nip this in the bud before they waste a ton of money on suits that are going to be thrown out of court anyway

And any victims that werent planning on suing wont have to have anything to do with it
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Serious Cat
07/17/18 1:01:35 PM
#62:


CruelBuffalo posted...
You think its reasonable to pre-emptly sue victims of a mass shooting so they now need to go an retain council, people who may not have even wanted to sue?

It's just to determine venue. If the victims are not suing, there's no need to object to the change and no need to retain counsel.
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Coffeebeanz
07/17/18 2:00:52 PM
#63:


gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?
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SK8T3R215
07/17/18 2:01:51 PM
#64:


CruelBuffalo posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
Kushinadahime posted...
I don't see why MGM should be held responsible. Seems like a reasonable tactic to preemptively squelch opportunistic lawsuits against them.


Same.


You think its reasonable to pre-emptly sue victims of a mass shooting so they now need to go an retain council, people who may not have even wanted to sue?


Yes it is reasonable because that is not what is happening. Find some other angle to be outraged about this.
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 2:47:21 PM
#65:


Coffeebeanz posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?

Look at this guy defending literal Las Vegas mob kingpins.

They have spare cash out the ass to pay off the victims, and some amount of culpability since it was their property. The act wasn't theirs, but you know, too bad. They own the property. You have a minor at your house party you are the one going to jail.
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Solid Snake07
07/17/18 2:51:17 PM
#66:


What's sad is people using this as a ploy to get a payday from a massive company who really isn't responsible.

But that's america for you
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SK8T3R215
07/17/18 2:56:13 PM
#67:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?

Look at this guy defending literal Las Vegas mob kingpins.

They have spare cash out the ass to pay off the victims, and some amount of culpability since it was their property. The act wasn't theirs, but you know, too bad. They own the property. You have a minor at your house party you are the one going to jail.


NOW THIS IS SHITPOSTING!
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SomeLikeItHoth
07/17/18 2:57:00 PM
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Itt a bunch of people who know nothing about law and nothing about business believe every clickbait story they read.
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 2:58:29 PM
#69:


I mean, there are literally no circumstances I'd defend the criminal kings of Las Vegas under, and very few for any casino at all really, so sure technically in that sense.
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_RETS_
07/17/18 3:08:02 PM
#70:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?

Look at this guy defending literal Las Vegas mob kingpins.

They have spare cash out the ass to pay off the victims, and some amount of culpability since it was their property. The act wasn't theirs, but you know, too bad. They own the property. You have a minor at your house party you are the one going to jail.


They have already contributed millions to the victims. But please answer, what specific standard was in place that they failed to meet that allowed the shooting to happen or increased the likelihood of the shooting?
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 3:21:17 PM
#71:


_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It's only "in the best interest" if you're licking MGM's boots. It's in their interest. Should they lose, they'll only harm the people suing them. This is only pragmatic for mgm.


P4wn4g3 posted...
_RETS_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump is still trying to figure out the reasoning behind the attack.

We have evil fuckers all over the place that's why. Literally no surprise that a rich white asshole would snipe a bunch of people for fun, and other rich white assholes would try to capitalize off of it.


Who is trying to capitalize off it and how?

MGM. Durr?


Capitalizing on not getting sued over something that clearly wasn't their fault? Or rather, capitalizing on not having to deal with hundreds of lawsuits that would all be thrown out but still cost them millions of dollars?

Look at this guy defending literal Las Vegas mob kingpins.

They have spare cash out the ass to pay off the victims, and some amount of culpability since it was their property. The act wasn't theirs, but you know, too bad. They own the property. You have a minor at your house party you are the one going to jail.


They have already contributed millions to the victims. But please answer, what specific standard was in place that they failed to meet that allowed the shooting to happen or increased the likelihood of the shooting?

Idk. If it were your house though I guarantee there'd be some shit written into law where you are partially accountable. I'm sure Las Vegas has the same. Shill harder though. Looks great.
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RE_expert44
07/17/18 3:28:49 PM
#72:


What could they have done to prevent the shooting? Metal detectors, armed security and x ray machines at every door? Put armed security on every floor doing patrols? Then may as well put several cameras in every single room and a lock down feature if someone is acting fishy.
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P4wn4g3
07/17/18 4:00:08 PM
#73:


Nah they can't prevent shootings. But they can follow whatever the current procedures are and be inline with code.
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_RETS_
07/17/18 4:31:26 PM
#74:


P4wn4g3 posted...

Shill for... what exactly? For a business I will never visit? For the actual story and not some fake outrage narrative? What exactly is there to be shilled for?

And if someone AirBnBs my house and snipes a neighbor, I am in no way responsible for that, nor would the law suggest I was.

So if they can follow current procedures to be in line with code, what exactly are those procedures you suggest they didn't follow?

Starting to seem like you got duped by a headline but refuse to dial back your false narrative...
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Kushinadahime
07/18/18 2:08:08 PM
#75:


A lot of times companies will settle even if they know they are not at fault just because it is cheaper than fighting it. Unfortunately this creates a perverse incentive for plaintiffs to sue anybody that may or may not be tangently involved because it is almost guaranteed they will get a settlement even if their case has little to no merit as it is too costly for the defendent to fight it. Add a sob story and the court of public opinion will make the defendent pay something even if they are not at fault legally.
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_RETS_
07/18/18 3:38:25 PM
#76:


Kushinadahime posted...
A lot of times companies will settle even if they know they are not at fault just because it is cheaper than fighting it. Unfortunately this creates a perverse incentive for plaintiffs to sue anybody that may or may not be tangently involved because it is almost guaranteed they will get a settlement even if their case has little to no merit as it is too costly for the defendent to fight it. Add a sob story and the court of public opinion will make the defendent pay something even if they are not at fault legally.


The media is pushing this "evil corporation" narrative hard. Purposely incendiary headlines with one-word quotes from the article like "outrageous" right under the headline just to frame how the reader should feel before they read it.
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FreedomEtrtment
07/20/18 2:22:11 AM
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That's fucked up
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