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Tyranthraxus
07/16/18 6:44:48 PM
#52:


KStateKing17 posted...
I don't see how including people who exclusively play mobile games makes any sense. If you want to do that, then you'd have to include all the computer games older women have been playing over the past couple of decades. There's been online wheel of fortune, bejeweled, solitare, sweet tooth, etc. It really isn't new.

It literally already includes those.
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KStateKing17
07/16/18 10:25:24 PM
#53:


Tyranthraxus posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
I don't see how including people who exclusively play mobile games makes any sense. If you want to do that, then you'd have to include all the computer games older women have been playing over the past couple of decades. There's been online wheel of fortune, bejeweled, solitare, sweet tooth, etc. It really isn't new.

It literally already includes those.

So the gap was never as big as that article made it to be.
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 2:00:51 AM
#54:


KStateKing17 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
I don't see how including people who exclusively play mobile games makes any sense. If you want to do that, then you'd have to include all the computer games older women have been playing over the past couple of decades. There's been online wheel of fortune, bejeweled, solitare, sweet tooth, etc. It really isn't new.

It literally already includes those.

So the gap was never as big as that article made it to be.

Are you going to take that @the_mighty_kelp
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SauI_Goodman
07/17/18 2:01:46 AM
#55:


If they are counting cell phone "games" I would easily agree. As far as traditional games go, not even close.
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Kyurem-BIack
07/17/18 2:07:19 AM
#56:


Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

no, candy crush doesn't fucking count and that's that
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 3:33:58 AM
#57:


Kyurem-BIack posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

no, candy crush doesn't fucking count and that's that

why does it "not count"?
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au_gold
07/17/18 3:35:19 AM
#59:


How credible is this statistic?
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shnangyboos
07/17/18 3:38:26 AM
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I guess we don't have to hear anymore shit about it being male dominated.
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Webmaster4531
07/17/18 3:47:36 AM
#61:


au_gold posted...
How credible is this statistic?

It's meaningless to any company trying to sell non-phone games.
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Kyurem-BIack
07/17/18 3:49:54 AM
#62:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Kyurem-BIack posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

no, candy crush doesn't fucking count and that's that

why does it "not count"?

it's literally only played by 40 year old depressed housewives and people who don't have the skills or reaction time to play actual games
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Monolith1676
07/17/18 3:53:43 AM
#63:


Didn't the research into that Bully Hunters thing prove this wrong?
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legendarylemur
07/17/18 4:01:10 AM
#64:


Kinda feels like we should be exclusive to people who only play candy crush and shit. Mostly because they don't really matter to this market. Like they're not really gonna play anything else, so the observation that there are so many female candy crush players against the other people who buy a game once per 2-3 months minimum is... literally worthless
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Dash_Harber
07/17/18 4:26:47 AM
#65:


Do I agree with the stat? If it's a legit stat, there really isn't anything to agree or disagree with. It's true in our household, for what it's worth.
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Sativa_Rose
07/17/18 4:28:09 AM
#66:


I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games
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Dash_Harber
07/17/18 4:29:17 AM
#67:


Sativa_Rose posted...
I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games


Probably more men; females get a huge opinon bias against them.
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Sativa_Rose
07/17/18 4:30:34 AM
#68:


Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games


Probably more men; females get a huge opinon bias against them.


I mean the gamers, not the characters.
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Dash_Harber
07/17/18 4:35:29 AM
#69:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games


Probably more men; females get a huge opinon bias against them.


I mean the gamers, not the characters.


That's the joke.
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Sativa_Rose
07/17/18 4:35:50 AM
#70:


Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games


Probably more men; females get a huge opinon bias against them.


I mean the gamers, not the characters.


That's the joke.


Oh.

sexist!
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Dash_Harber
07/17/18 4:38:07 AM
#71:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I am only interested in the ratio for Paradox Interactive games


Probably more men; females get a huge opinon bias against them.


I mean the gamers, not the characters.


That's the joke.


Oh.

sexist!


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Sephiroth1288
07/17/18 4:41:00 AM
#72:


UnfairRepresent posted...
why does it "not count"?

So you believe the sort of person who plays sudoku on their blackberry is in the same demographic as the person who plays DOTA
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Fam_Fam
07/17/18 6:56:19 AM
#73:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
why does it "not count"?

So you believe the sort of person who plays sudoku on their blackberry is in the same demographic as the person who plays DOTA


maybe if the sudoku players weren't discriminated against, they'd feel welcome to play DOTA. you realize barrier to entry is part of the reason people can't cross over? People treat them like "fake gamers" and are condescending for no reason that does them any good.
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Sephiroth1288
07/17/18 6:57:25 AM
#74:


Fam_Fam posted...
maybe if the sudoku players weren't discriminated against,

Ok what kind of weed are you smoking and please kill your supplier
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 7:30:50 AM
#75:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
why does it "not count"?

So you believe the sort of person who plays sudoku on their blackberry is in the same demographic as the person who plays DOTA


Someone who reads The Oxford Master Series in Physics and someone who reads Dan Brown both read books

someone who watches Batman and someone who watches 6 degrees of separation both watch movies.

If you are over 20 then you once played, praised and enjoyed games much simpler and inferior to anything on mobile (of note)

So yeah
why do games you dislike not count?

I don't like Romantic comedies but they are still movies
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Rika_Furude
07/17/18 9:04:19 AM
#76:


Playing candy crush once on your iphone 7 years ago doesnt make you a gamer. Stop crying TC.
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Shuto-uke
07/17/18 9:06:10 AM
#77:


Muffinz0rz posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


Yes.

The industry pushed hard to redefine what "gamer" means o they could say that the gender distribution is near 50/50, when in reality men play call of duty or overwatch and women play farmville and candy crush in an iphone 5.
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Shuto-uke
07/17/18 9:07:19 AM
#78:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Someone who reads The Oxford Master Series in Physics and someone who reads Dan Brown both read books

someone who watches Batman and someone who watches 6 degrees of separation both watch movies.

If you are over 20 then you once played, praised and enjoyed games much simpler and inferior to anything on mobile (of note)

So yeah
why do games you dislike not count?

I don't like Romantic comedies but they are still movies


They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like nintendo to stop working on the zeldas and mariios of the world to work on shit like Mario Run.
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NeonOctopus
07/17/18 9:09:51 AM
#79:


KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"

Most likely yes, so this study doesn't count lawl
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 12:17:08 PM
#80:


Shuto-uke posted...
They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like

why does that make them not count?

The popularity of romantic comedies makes movies shove in awkward romance stories on all films.

doesn t make Rom coms not movies
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SpinKirby
07/17/18 12:19:21 PM
#81:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like

why does that make them not count?

The popularity of romantic comedies makes movies shove in awkward romance stories on all films.

doesn t make Rom coms not movies


Comic book characters are more popular than ever, but actual comic book reading remains horribly low.

Same content, but a split audience allows for it to be handled differently.
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Peter_Giffyndor
07/17/18 12:20:35 PM
#82:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


Candy Crush isn't a game?


It's a game in the sense that poker is a "sport"
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Sephiroth1288
07/17/18 4:16:16 PM
#83:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
why does it "not count"?

So you believe the sort of person who plays sudoku on their blackberry is in the same demographic as the person who plays DOTA


Someone who reads The Oxford Master Series in Physics and someone who reads Dan Brown both read books

someone who watches Batman and someone who watches 6 degrees of separation both watch movies.

If you are over 20 then you once played, praised and enjoyed games much simpler and inferior to anything on mobile (of note)

So yeah
why do games you dislike not count?

I don't like Romantic comedies but they are still movies

Does playing any video game for any amount of time make you a "gamer"? I'm pretty sure that title implies that playing games is a major hobby of yours and you regard video games rather seriously.

Like, if I took a walk through a park last week, am I an outdoorsman? even though I otherwise stay in my room and avoid going outside whenever possible? But I went outdoors, did I not? So I'm an outdoorsman!
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Shuto-uke
07/17/18 4:58:26 PM
#84:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like

why does that make them not count?

The popularity of romantic comedies makes movies shove in awkward romance stories on all films.

doesn t make Rom coms not movies


Fine, go and tell the nintendo board to cancel the next zelda and mario to make "nintendo angry birds"
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UnfairRepresent
07/17/18 5:00:48 PM
#85:


Sephiroth1288 posted...

Does playing any video game for any amount of time make you a "gamer"?

gamer
em/
noun
noun: gamer; plural noun: gamers

1.
a person who plays video games or participates in role-playing games.


Yeah pretty much.

Shuto-uke posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like

why does that make them not count?

The popularity of romantic comedies makes movies shove in awkward romance stories on all films.

doesn t make Rom coms not movies


Fine, go and tell the nintendo board to cancel the next zelda and mario to make "nintendo angry birds"


I don't get your point,

1. It has nothing to do with anything I said

2. Nintendo have made Mario everything. Mario's face is a brand
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Balrog0
07/17/18 5:01:16 PM
#86:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
Does playing any video game for any amount of time make you a "gamer"? I'm pretty sure that title implies that playing games is a major hobby of yours and you regard video games rather seriously.

Like, if I took a walk through a park last week, am I an outdoorsman? even though I otherwise stay in my room and avoid going outside whenever possible? But I went outdoors, did I not? So I'm an outdoorsman!


The problem with this line of reasoning is that many people who play mobile games do take their mobile games very seriously.
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Rika_Furude
07/17/18 5:01:33 PM
#87:


>taking tc seriously
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Balrog0
07/17/18 5:02:30 PM
#88:


Shuto-uke posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
They "don't count" because these stats are used to coerce certain companies like

why does that make them not count?

The popularity of romantic comedies makes movies shove in awkward romance stories on all films.

doesn t make Rom coms not movies


Fine, go and tell the nintendo board to cancel the next zelda and mario to make "nintendo angry birds"


I mean, to me, one of the things that gives this definition some weight is that mainstream game development has moved towards mobile gaming in terms of what developers seem to prioritize (specifically, you know, designing games with microtransactions involved)
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DuneMan
07/17/18 5:10:25 PM
#89:


IIRC once you factor out 'match 3' games, the spread for more traditional game genres gets rather stark, fast. RPGs have the highest representation at a 1:3 ratio. Past that it goes to a 1:6 ratio for the next highest, and beyond.
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legendarylemur
07/18/18 3:26:59 PM
#90:


Fam_Fam posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
why does it "not count"?

So you believe the sort of person who plays sudoku on their blackberry is in the same demographic as the person who plays DOTA


maybe if the sudoku players weren't discriminated against, they'd feel welcome to play DOTA. you realize barrier to entry is part of the reason people can't cross over? People treat them like "fake gamers" and are condescending for no reason that does them any good.

Well I can't tell if it's sarcasm, but there's something that's wrong with that line of reasoning, too. It's like you're trying to market baby food towards adult usage because adults buy them for their kids. You don't just market willy-nilly or make your products towards any random market you can find. Just because a bunch of people who play 1 game and will play 1 game exist, doesn't mean you start dumbing down the game and try to get these people to buy your product. These kinds of people don't even like paying for games for one thing, and for another, the more you appeal to different types of people, the more the product suffers and you end up losing the other end of the spectrum, aka people who want games made for gamers.

That's why some gamers like complaining some of the easier Mario games, when Nintendo actually has justifications to market towards people who like simpler games. But you can clearly see the evidence of this happening, that you gear your game towards one end, the other end complains
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voldothegr8
07/18/18 3:33:56 PM
#91:


Mobile games don't count
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UnfairRepresent
07/18/18 4:32:50 PM
#92:


voldothegr8 posted...
Mobile games don't count

Why not?
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Rika_Furude
07/18/18 5:02:11 PM
#93:


Youve already been told why. Keep pretending to ignore though and keep trolling instead.
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orcus_snake
07/18/18 5:04:58 PM
#94:


KhanJohnny posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

It actually is very important to the question at hand. Why should console games, which are likely male dominant, have 50% female protagonists, if that's not who the consumers are?

If the consumers of story-driven console games are men who want to play games as men, then why should they not get what they are spending their money for in order to satisfy a political preference?


holy fucking shit, it is a good thing you do not handle any if the creative process in the industry :v
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KhanJohnny
07/18/18 5:57:21 PM
#96:


orcus_snake posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

It actually is very important to the question at hand. Why should console games, which are likely male dominant, have 50% female protagonists, if that's not who the consumers are?

If the consumers of story-driven console games are men who want to play games as men, then why should they not get what they are spending their money for in order to satisfy a political preference?


holy fucking shit, it is a good thing you do not handle any if the creative process in the industry :v

And yet the industry seems to agree with me, and therefore doesn't have a 1:1 ratio of protagonists.
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UnfairRepresent
07/18/18 5:59:29 PM
#97:


KhanJohnny posted...
orcus_snake posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
KhanJohnny posted...
Is this one of those things where they count people who play Candy Crush as "gamers"


who cares? its really unimportant. The definition of "gamer" has been changing for a while to accomodate the new forms of games that have been coming out.

It's not a bad thing. There's no benefit in exclusion or elitism. Maybe gamers can even get more respect and less stigma in society as people get to understand the culture more. and that's a great thing.

It actually is very important to the question at hand. Why should console games, which are likely male dominant, have 50% female protagonists, if that's not who the consumers are?

If the consumers of story-driven console games are men who want to play games as men, then why should they not get what they are spending their money for in order to satisfy a political preference?


holy fucking shit, it is a good thing you do not handle any if the creative process in the industry :v

And yet the industry seems to agree with me, and therefore doesn't have a 1:1 ratio of protagonists.

You switched horses.

"Companies shouldn't have to make game that don't play as men." and "The ratio isn't 1:1" are different statements.

I think pretty much any video game company on Earth (except maybe a few Japanese ones) would disagree with your first point.
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KhanJohnny
07/18/18 6:21:43 PM
#98:


That post is too incoherent to respond to, sorry.
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UnfairRepresent
07/18/18 6:25:50 PM
#99:


Sigless user evasion
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KhanJohnny
07/18/18 6:26:56 PM
#100:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Sigless user evasion

"Companies shouldn't have to make game that don't play as men."


Maybe you should work on that sentence if you want a response.
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UnfairRepresent
07/18/18 6:27:35 PM
#101:


Maybe you should work on your sig.
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KhanJohnny
07/18/18 6:28:32 PM
#102:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Maybe you should work on your sig.

Lame
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The_Mighty_KELP
07/19/18 12:42:44 AM
#103:


Just came to this topic to say that I've already said all I want to say on this subject over in this thread:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000445-top-10-lists/76783721
That's all! Have a nice life.
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