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NeonOctopus 07/16/18 11:45:06 AM #1:	Shit stats, shit moves, shit design --- https://imgur.com/nlaY1qH https://imgur.com/zHJ1OCo https://imgur.com/btBPP4E https://imgur.com/1B3bMHw <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:905172006] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Shit stats, shit moves, shit design</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 07/16/18 11:45:39 AM #2:	It wanted to bang Ash tho --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:905172037] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>It wanted to bang Ash tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 07/16/18 11:46:13 AM #3:	Meganium can set up Screens them poison with Toxic. Still pretty bad though. --- Pic of my gf and me: https://imgur.com/gallery/blAC3 King K. Rool supporter for Super Smash Brothers Ultimate. <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:905172066] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Meganium can set up Screens them poison with Toxic. Still pretty bad though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/16/18 11:47:19 AM #4:	It's definitely the worst starter, yes. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:905172128] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>It's definitely the worst starter, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 07/16/18 1:33:40 PM #5:	Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:905177415] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/16/18 1:34:54 PM #6:	orcus_snake posted... Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:905177497] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/16/18 1:35:07 PM #7:	Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:905177507] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:35:17 PM #8:	Meganium is definitely the worst in terms of how useful it is in the story mode. It sucks in virtually every gym. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905177514] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Meganium is definitely the worst in terms of how useful it is in the story mode. It sucks in virtually every gym.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:35:50 PM #9:	BLAKUboy posted... Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist. Incineroar is literally viable in OU It's actually considered one of the best Aegislash checks --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905177554] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist.</quote> Incineroar is literally viable in OU It's actually considered one of the best Aegislash checks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/16/18 1:36:14 PM #10:	Yes especially considering it's the same gen with the coolest starter (Feraligatr) --- https://imgtc.com/i/C6jP02v.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UAGNJFv.gif https://imgtc.com/i/cBTnWgf.png https://imgtc.com/i/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:905177574] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Yes especially considering it's the same gen with the coolest starter (Feraligatr)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 07/16/18 1:36:41 PM #11:	Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:905177589] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:38:01 PM #12:	Shotgunnova posted... Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. Water is arguably the best single type in Pokemon. Empoleon being water/steel is just nuts. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905177674] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> Water is arguably the best single type in Pokemon. Empoleon being water/steel is just nuts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 07/16/18 1:39:32 PM #13:	DrizztLink posted... orcus_snake posted... Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:905177762] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is</quote> I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:40:19 PM #14:	orcus_snake posted... DrizztLink posted... orcus_snake posted... Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen. Blaziken is literally in Uber Tier And that doesn't even factor in the Mega Evolution --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905177803] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is</quote> I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen.</quote> Blaziken is literally in Uber Tier And that doesn't even factor in the Mega Evolution</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/16/18 1:40:44 PM #15:	orcus_snake posted... DrizztLink posted... orcus_snake posted... Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen. Banished to Ubers because of speed boost, but not good enough in Ubers to actually do anything --- https://imgtc.com/i/C6jP02v.jpg https://imgtc.com/i/UAGNJFv.gif https://imgtc.com/i/cBTnWgf.png https://imgtc.com/i/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:905177833] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is</quote> I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen.</quote> Banished to Ubers because of speed boost, but not good enough in Ubers to actually do anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 07/16/18 1:40:49 PM #16:	Yes, it isn't effective against any of the gen 2 gyms and is largely useless compared to the other two. Grass typing in general is kinda bad, I never go with grass starters. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:905177839] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it isn't effective against any of the gen 2 gyms and is largely useless compared to the other two. Grass typing in general is kinda bad, I never go with grass starters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 07/16/18 1:40:58 PM #17:	Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:905177842] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 07/16/18 1:41:21 PM #18:	Coffeebeanz posted... Shotgunnova posted... Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. Water is arguably the best single type in Pokemon. Empoleon being water/steel is just nuts. I remember the mudkip evolution being tanky as fuck and his ground type covering for his electric weakness and the water covering for his ground weakness makign it only weak against grass, shit was dope. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:905177873] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> Water is arguably the best single type in Pokemon. Empoleon being water/steel is just nuts.</quote> I remember the mudkip evolution being tanky as fuck and his ground type covering for his electric weakness and the water covering for his ground weakness makign it only weak against grass, shit was dope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/16/18 1:41:36 PM #19:	Shotgunnova posted... Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:905177894] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:41:52 PM #20:	EdgeMaster posted... Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features. Ironically the lack of poison type becomes a problem because it adds a weakness to bug. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905177910] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features.</quote> Ironically the lack of poison type becomes a problem because it adds a weakness to bug.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 07/16/18 1:42:34 PM #21:	Coffeebeanz posted... BLAKUboy posted... Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist. Incineroar is literally viable in OU It's actually considered one of the best Aegislash checks Doesn't really matter when Aegislash is Uber anyways --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:905177951] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Not when Emboar, Delphox, and Incineroar exist.</quote> Incineroar is literally viable in OU It's actually considered one of the best Aegislash checks</quote> Doesn't really matter when Aegislash is Uber anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 07/16/18 1:42:51 PM #22:	FL81 posted... orcus_snake posted... DrizztLink posted... orcus_snake posted... Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs. Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen. Banished to Ubers because of speed boost, but not good enough in Ubers to actually do anything Reminds me of the thoth tweets where they say they are too hot for uglies but too ugly for the hot people :v --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:905177968] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>FL81 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>Water starter master race EDIT: tho I DID pick torchic cause it looks adorbs.</quote> Plus Blaziken is a badass. Charizard still #1 don't care how shit he is</quote> I'm meh toward the evolutions but Blaziken DID have a moment in the competitive spotlight as a sweeper in my time, dunno about current gen.</quote> Banished to Ubers because of speed boost, but not good enough in Ubers to actually do anything</quote> Reminds me of the thoth tweets where they say they are too hot for uglies but too ugly for the hot people :v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 07/16/18 1:43:29 PM #23:	Squirtle Tododile Torchic Piplup Oshawott I don't remember gen vi starters I only just realized I do water types almost exclusively weird --- https://imgtc.com/i/FoEetUh.gif https://imgtc.com/i/oeysOEy.jpg <cite>Doe posted [p:905178003] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Squirtle Tododile Torchic Piplup Oshawott I don't remember gen vi starters I only just realized I do water types almost exclusively weird</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 07/16/18 1:43:44 PM #24:	BLAKUboy posted... Shotgunnova posted... Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika. Incineroar getting Intimidate and having a useful typing with good bulk makes him viable --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:905178021] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika.</quote> Incineroar getting Intimidate and having a useful typing with good bulk makes him viable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/16/18 1:50:36 PM #25:	BLAKUboy posted... Shotgunnova posted... Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't. We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika. Actually, Charmander does rather well in Brock's Gym in gen 1 by virtue of none of those Pokemon knowing any Rock or Ground type moves to get type advantage against it. Hell, Charmander could even force through them with Ember, since their Special stat is so low. Things are different in FRLG, even with Charmander getting Metal Claw presumably as a counter against the first gym. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:905178354] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shotgunnova posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine picking anything over a fire starter. Just imagine it. You can't.</quote> We haven't had a good fire starter since gen 4. And even Charmander is the worst option in gen 1 because he gets bodied by the first two gyms and is only good against Erika.</quote> Actually, Charmander does rather well in Brock's Gym in gen 1 by virtue of none of those Pokemon knowing any Rock or Ground type moves to get type advantage against it. Hell, Charmander could even force through them with Ember, since their Special stat is so low. Things are different in FRLG, even with Charmander getting Metal Claw presumably as a counter against the first gym.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El Mexicano Texano 07/16/18 1:52:50 PM #26:	Typhlosion is worse from what I remember. --- http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn255/5EMTwE/GFaqs/Houston.jpg <cite>El Mexicano Texano posted [p:905178486] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Typhlosion is worse from what I remember.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 07/16/18 1:57:44 PM #27:	Typhlosion is great, it just has Pokemon that do its role better. Meganium has this weird niche in lower tiers of being a really excellent Cleric/Support Pokemon. --- https://imgur.com/3PWjCdY https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:905178775] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Typhlosion is great, it just has Pokemon that do its role better. Meganium has this weird niche in lower tiers of being a really excellent Cleric/Support Pokemon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EdgeMaster 07/16/18 2:14:12 PM #28:	Coffeebeanz posted... EdgeMaster posted... Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features. Ironically the lack of poison type becomes a problem because it adds a weakness to bug. Makes sense. Skipped my mind as I didnt think any wild spinarak or ledyba would give trouble (or know but moves?) maybe Bugsys Scythers fury cutter... Like said played HGSS in game, competitive gen3 (no ingame) so my knowledge is dated. I cant remember anything dangerous that would carry a bug move in gen 1 or 2 except maybe a Jolteon with pin missile lol. Youd be much more likely to get wrecked by ice beam or fire blast. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:905179727] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>Dont really know much after gen3 but yeah Meganium sucks pretty bad. Its best asset is that it doesnt have poison as a second type. I dont think it get sleep powder either? Body slam and razor leaf are cool but Im struggling to find any other redeeming features.</quote> Ironically the lack of poison type becomes a problem because it adds a weakness to bug.</quote> Makes sense. Skipped my mind as I didnt think any wild spinarak or ledyba would give trouble (or know but moves?) maybe Bugsys Scythers fury cutter... Like said played HGSS in game, competitive gen3 (no ingame) so my knowledge is dated. I cant remember anything dangerous that would carry a bug move in gen 1 or 2 except maybe a Jolteon with pin missile lol. Youd be much more likely to get wrecked by ice beam or fire blast.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/16/18 2:26:10 PM #29:	EdgeMaster posted... I cant remember anything dangerous that would carry a bug move in gen 1 or 2 except maybe a Jolteon with pin missile lol. Well shit, Bug was a nonfactor in 1. By 2 it got a little better, but still a godawful movepool. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:905180405] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote><cite>EdgeMaster posted...</cite> <quote>I cant remember anything dangerous that would carry a bug move in gen 1 or 2 except maybe a Jolteon with pin missile lol. </quote> Well shit, Bug was a nonfactor in 1. By 2 it got a little better, but still a godawful movepool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/16/18 2:27:13 PM #30:	I didn't like either of the gen 2 starters --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:905180468] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>I didn't like either of the gen 2 starters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 07/16/18 2:56:03 PM #31:	Surprised no one brought up Decidueye. He was my Gen VI starter and sentimental fav, but damn of she wasnt shit on a lot. Admittely because IIRC she couldnt learn some of the moves thatd make her OU but even so. --- we are forced to subsidize views we may not agree with. Bond_543 In response to NPR tweeting the Declaration of Independence <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:905182166] in Is Meganiu... [t:76812368]...</cite> <quote>Surprised no one brought up Decidueye. He was my Gen VI starter and sentimental fav, but damn of she wasnt shit on a lot. Admittely because IIRC she couldnt learn some of the moves thatd make her OU but even so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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