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Sephiroth1288 07/09/18 7:51:36 AM #1: |
I love Fallout games. I even put 40 hours into Fallout 4, one of the worst in the whole series IMO. Freedom and exploration are big things for me personally, and Fallout has a really interesting setting that rewards exploration because you never could guess what you'll find next. The Fallout series was always a Mad Max-inspired game where you're this lone dude in a crazy post-apocalyptic world full of wild danger and makeshift societies, and exploring the land was exciting and made you feel like you were Max Rockatansky, stumbling onto dire situations and crazy personalities, with serious moral choices to make.
Remember that part in Beyond Thunderdome where Max builds a house and rigs up a network of lamps around it? And then he plants a garden and decorates the whole thing with pixel art? I will never understand Bethesda's sudden desire to add construction and interior design into all their games. It was pointless and boring in Skyrim. They made it practically mandatory in Fallout 4, and it was still boring. There was zero motivation to maintain your little settlements; all they did was hassle you to come protect them from bees while you were probably off doing something fun. And the only reward was some extra fast-travel points and sometimes some (usually unnecessary) help in combat. All they have shown us so far of F76 is that same old construction crap. They also showed us fights with the mythical creatures of Virginia, which pretty much ruins the anticipation of seeing them in-game. The Grafton monster kind of loses its mystique when you see it getting killed in every single trailer they put out. I know that not everyone has my particular sensibilities here. Maybe you like the construction elements. Maybe you enjoy building the perfect little town with the most efficient electrical wiring and the most appropriate furniture feng shui. Here's the problem though: Fallout 76 is still a massive open-world, right? A world that, presumably, you're meant to explore and find quests in? What, for the love of god, is the point of having a pretty and well-fortified base when you're going to spend a minimal amount of time there? Crafting seems to be the biggest reason you would ever need to return (making restocking a bigger pain in the ass than it used to be), since there's going to be no shops since the only humans will be other players, which brings us to the next problem... This game looks like just a AAA Rust. Collecting and using resources seems to be the primary focus. That's the major thread in all the interviews about the game. Whereas in all previous games they talked about the story and locations you would get to explore, all they talk about in F76 along with construction is PVP, resource-gathering, and raiding boss monsters for loot. It's fucking ES:O with survival elements. There's nothing wrong with that in of itself, and there's no reason a new game in a series can't go into a different genre, but given Bethesda's track record of this kind of material, I am powerfully uninterested. tl;dr: Needs more Mad Max and less Minecraft. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlebread 07/09/18 7:53:20 AM #2: |
didn't read but I have zero hype for that game and I've enjoyed the last three fallouts
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Master_Bass 07/09/18 7:55:58 AM #3: |
Yeah, I'll probably try it but I'm not actively looking forward to it or anything. I'd rather have another single player game.
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Vyrulisse 07/09/18 8:00:41 AM #4: |
I have no hype for this. Sad that such a cool looking world is going to be wasted on a shitty Rust clone.
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snesmaster40 07/09/18 8:05:48 AM #5: |
I don't have any hype for this either. I wasn't a fan of the Minecraft stuff 4 had.
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Crepes 07/09/18 8:07:11 AM #6: |
Not a fan. Ill probably get it at some point when its cheap and never play it.
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Uncle Choad 07/09/18 8:09:21 AM #7: |
Crepes posted...
Not a fan. Ill probably get it at some point when its cheap and never play it. Bethesda stopped selling their games cheap. --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gp1829 07/09/18 8:12:45 AM #8: |
West Virginia not Virginia.
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Jerry_Hellyeah 07/09/18 8:16:01 AM #9: |
Fallout 3 still exists. New Vegas still exists.
Im not spending 60 bucks on a game I already own. Im glad Fallout 76 is something new from Bethesda. Lol at the paper thin storylines being a driving force in their other titles. If that drivel draws you in, thats fine, but we're not going to agree. --- This is a cool sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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444488882 07/09/18 8:17:42 AM #10: |
yes you are the only person in the world disinterested in it
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MuayThai85 07/09/18 8:17:59 AM #11: |
Tbh, I just started playing Fallout 4. I'm about 2.5-3 hours in and I'm pretty fucking bored.
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Superlinkbro 07/09/18 8:19:15 AM #12: |
I probably wasn't gonna buy it anyway do yeah I'm not interested in it.
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InTheEyesOfFire 07/09/18 8:24:35 AM #13: |
You're not alone. Hell I didn't even play that hot mess that is 4.
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The_Ivory_Man 07/09/18 8:27:08 AM #14: |
I'm sure you aren't the only one.
Personally though, I am excited I have friends that are big fans of Fallout that are into having a multiplayer spin-off. The fact that you may be able to play a ghoul is just another cool detail for me. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBiggerWiggle 07/09/18 8:31:34 AM #15: |
I think TC wanted to wake up with a wall of text and a controversial opinion but everyone agrees with him lol
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Southernfatman 07/09/18 8:31:38 AM #16: |
I'm a fan of Fallout 4's settlement building and all that, but I'm not interested in 76 at all.
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Jerry_Hellyeah 07/09/18 8:37:58 AM #17: |
InTheEyesOfFire posted...
You're not alone. Hell I didn't even play that hot mess that is 4. Look at this valuable fucking opinion. --- This is a cool sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InTheEyesOfFire 07/09/18 10:51:24 AM #18: |
Oh wah the fuck wah. Fallout 4 was literal shit.
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HylianFox 07/09/18 10:51:46 AM #19: |
no
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creativerealms 07/09/18 10:54:24 AM #20: |
The reason they added the construction to Fallout four or part of the reason was that settlement building mods were popular for fallout three. Of course making it such an important part of the game was the wrong way to go.
One thing that bothers me is the lack of NPCs. I get that they want the players to build their own world and for each server world to end up being different. Yet it would still be neat to find like an Government remnant hidden in a Bunker, or another vault that didn't end up so well. Also they didn't want human NPCs, why not a town of Ghouls? There is a lot they could have done. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Azardea 07/09/18 10:55:35 AM #21: |
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eston 07/09/18 11:04:42 AM #22: |
I just want it to be a normal Fallout game
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AlecSkorpio 07/09/18 11:08:09 AM #23: |
I have zero interest, but my interest in the series has always been minimal and even more so since Fallout 4.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:10:25 AM #24: |
i really think modern devs underestimate griefers
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Balrog0 07/09/18 11:29:33 AM #25: |
I like the settlement building aspects of FO4, what I don't dig is the multiplayer element involved.
To me, building up your towns going from little outposts to titanic fortresses is very in-theme with the Mad Max style (not necessarily the action sequences, but someone built Thunderdome and the end of the movie shows FO4 style settlement building) That's not to say you can't overdo it, though. FO4 did need more meaningful cities to interact with, and fewer settlements with no story implications. But yeah the PVP etc really turns me off --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/09/18 11:36:47 AM #26: |
Balrog0 posted...
I like the settlement building aspects of FO4, what I don't dig is the multiplayer element involved. This is pretty much how I feel. I always thought settlement building was a good fit thematically, and I found it fun, it just needed a little more purpose. It felt like an optional minigame where the reward is that it becomes easy to break the game's economy. But this multiplayer aspect turns me off entirely and runs counter to why I enjoy Fallout/Bethesda games in the first place --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/09/18 11:37:23 AM #27: |
No interest.
Doubling down on settlements and then introducing multiplayer was a bad move. I had just watched a Fallout review thing and was getting re-hyped for the series then the info dropped and I was salty. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:41:22 AM #30: |
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Is there going to be more of a focus on settlement building in Fallout 76? the game is looking to be ARK: Fallout Evolved --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/09/18 11:42:45 AM #32: |
I actually think I would really like a Fallout that focuses more on survival and building, I just don't want to do the community thing
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:43:19 AM #33: |
eston posted...
I actually think I would really like a Fallout that focuses more on survival and building, I just don't want to do the community thing Agree the game better have a single player or offline mode maybe even closed sessions with friends --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:43:54 AM #35: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I don't know what that means <_< yes there will be much more settlement building in fact it seems the game will be based around gathering resources and crafting tech like ARK or Rust tbh i really like the idea and think Fallout as an IP lends itself well to this idea but constant online just sounds like it'll be griefer hell --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/09/18 11:44:04 AM #36: |
Fallout used to be subversive, difficult, controversial . . . hate to say it but it doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, any reason to suspect it's not going to pander to the lowest common denominator?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:45:19 AM #38: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I never played either of those games, but maybe I should. That sounds great. RUST was just bad the last time I booted it up 2 years ago ARK is extensive and honestly the dinosaurs are a ton of fun to play around with but the game is made for sociopaths and there are soooo many griefers --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/09/18 11:45:53 AM #39: |
Asherlee10 posted...
75% of what I did in Fallout 4 was build settlements. I never finished the story. Did you ever play Far Harbor? I thought the areas they gave you to build in were amazing in that DLC --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/09/18 11:46:45 AM #42: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Fallout used to be subversive, difficult, controversial . . . hate to say it but it doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, any reason to suspect it's not going to pander to the lowest common denominator? I don't understand what you mean by this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 07/09/18 11:47:26 AM #43: |
Asherlee10 posted...
eston posted...Asherlee10 posted...75% of what I did in Fallout 4 was build settlements. I never finished the story. TBH the settlement building would have been much better... if you could allow for organic growth You know those sim city mods for Fallout 4 that would have been awesome to have as part of the base game --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlabamaLove 07/09/18 11:49:47 AM #45: |
this would've been a more interesting topic if the opposite opinion had been expressed
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Anarchy_Juiblex 07/09/18 11:51:52 AM #48: |
eston posted...
I don't understand what you mean by this I'm concerned that it's going to lose some of its edge to pander to the battleground kiddies. They're reduce the difficulty of the content, and reduce the adult themes. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 07/09/18 11:52:36 AM #49: |
I'm not interested in it at all either. It's just not the type of game I'd enjoy playing.
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spudger 07/09/18 11:56:24 AM #50: |
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I don't have any hype for this either. I wasn't a fan of the Minecraft stuff 4 had. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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