Current Events > Arenanet publisher of Guild Wars just fired 2 lead writers of over a decade

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ColdOne666
07/06/18 7:05:49 PM
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https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-06-arenanet-fires-two-guild-wars-2-writers-over-twitter-exchange-with-youtuber
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D-Lo_BrownTown
07/06/18 7:06:33 PM
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Good, they were completely out of line.
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Mystery_Mission
07/06/18 7:10:20 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Good, they were completely out of line.

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Hayame Zero
07/06/18 7:12:06 PM
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Only one of the lead writers was there for over a decade. The other was over a year.

But still. Fair, next.
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Leanaunfurled
07/06/18 7:16:48 PM
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The main problem, Jessica Price, hasn't been there long at all. I do feel a bit bad about Peter, but he willingly went into that mess and picked the batshit crazy side.

Fair, next though. Hard.
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alphagamble
07/06/18 7:17:45 PM
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What a bizarre reaction

In fact, why bother replying at all?
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Blue_Inigo
07/06/18 7:21:31 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Good, they were completely out of line.

This. Fuck em
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Back_Stabbath
07/06/18 7:22:24 PM
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hahahaha lmfao
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refmon
07/06/18 7:23:46 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Good, they were completely out of line.

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D-Lo_BrownTown
07/06/18 7:25:11 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I read this article earlier and I'm not defending the writers but I think it's kind of bullshit that it doesn't show the original comments of the people. I want to see how inflammatory or innocuous they were.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sDwspGgUQ" data-time="

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Back_Stabbath
07/06/18 7:25:58 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
I read this article earlier and I'm not defending the writers but I think it's kind of bullshit that it doesn't show the original comments of the people. I want to see how inflammatory or innocuous they were.

yongyea covered the incident pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5sDwspGgUQ" data-time="

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Link43130
07/06/18 7:30:14 PM
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sucks for the dude who got fired and continues to get people messaging him about fucking his wife and other such nonsense considering his comments were pretty uneventful and were deleted, but i guess its nice for arenanet to have an excuse to let people go after that failure of an expansion
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NeonOctopus
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Leanaunfurled
07/06/18 7:32:46 PM
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Link43130 posted...
sucks for the dude who got fired and continues to get people messaging him about fucking his wife and other such nonsense considering his comments were pretty uneventful and were deleted, but i guess its nice for arenanet to have an excuse to let people go after that failure of an expansion

What's wrong with the expansion? I haven't bought it yet, on another GW2 break. \( 'o' )/
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DarthAragorn
07/06/18 7:34:02 PM
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The guy got screwed a bit, but at the same time, don't white knight someone who shits on a major player for no reason
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PostCrisisJ2
07/06/18 7:35:29 PM
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alphagamble posted...
What a bizarre reaction

In fact, why bother replying at all?


It'd be one thing if the reply that started all of this were actually inflammatory, but they weren't. Maybe slightly passive aggressive at worst if you're looking at them with bad faith.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/06/18 7:35:40 PM
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refmon posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Good, they were completely out of line.

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Fahren
07/06/18 7:42:46 PM
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But why fire them at all? Why not give them a warning first? Were Price's comments really so strong as to warrant automatic removal? And what about Fries? Were his remarks really enough to bring more than 13 years of employment abruptly to an end?

and then he goes on to say why

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solosnake
07/06/18 7:44:10 PM
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Hopefully she is overflowing with hatred of men and blames this whole thing on the pigs.

Truly hope she hasnt learned anything from this
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Neoconkers
07/06/18 7:44:17 PM
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wow, being a relatively low-level employee who publicly shits on your customers could end badly? whoda thunk it
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ColdOne666
07/06/18 8:18:27 PM
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Good to see a SJW get rekt for a change.
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FrisbeeDude
07/06/18 8:23:37 PM
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They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard
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Blue_Inigo
07/06/18 8:24:46 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard

Yeah the more I think about it, they shoulda just got a stern talking to. This aint fire worthy. Especially for the dude who has been there 13 years
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PostCrisisJ2
07/06/18 8:25:56 PM
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I wonder if there was more going on behind the scenes and this incident was the proverbial straw.
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DarthAragorn
07/06/18 8:26:47 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard

the woman at least has a history of insane garbage on her twitter that got unearthed

it's pretty fair next
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kyujo
07/06/18 8:29:20 PM
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Definitely seems like there had to be more to it. I'm not usually one for all the firings, but speculation that they lashed out at behind-the-scenes reprimands doesn't seem far-fetched
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Esrac
07/06/18 8:34:49 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-06-arenanet-fires-two-guild-wars-2-writers-over-twitter-exchange-with-youtuber


The comments are mostly people who are understanding or supportive of their firing. Except one guy who is white knighting for Price so hard.
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Leanaunfurled
07/06/18 8:49:01 PM
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Wigs out over polite discussion, yells sexism, says sexist things, snaps at and insta-bans simple inquiries, insults the player base and says she pretends to like them.

Not fire-worthy my ass lol

And that's before getting into her Twitter history before this month.
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DarkTransient
07/06/18 8:53:32 PM
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What a surprise that the same people who'll gladly claim those with opinions they don't like should be fired, get upset when one of theirs gets that treatment.

And these same people will attack the other side when they show the same inconsistency, before going on to show it themself.

...And some people still believe that one side is more consistent and/or less hypocritical than the other.
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solosnake
07/06/18 8:53:50 PM
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Yeah hopefully she is black-listed from the industry
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MorganTJ
07/06/18 8:54:41 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard


She also apparently tweeted that she was relieved when TotalBiscuit died, so I assume this was the final straw, rather than an isolated incident. The guy she got into an argument with is also apparently a fairly big content creator for GW2 as well, so much so that they made him an NPC in the game.

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Esrac
07/06/18 9:26:52 PM
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MorganTJ posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
They got fired for THAT? Yikes. Gamergaters must've came out hard


She also apparently tweeted that she was relieved when TotalBiscuit died, so I assume this was the final straw, rather than an isolated incident. The guy she got into an argument with is also apparently a fairly big content creator for GW2 as well, so much so that they made him an NPC in the game.

I'm not sure how warranted the other guy's termination was though.


I suspect it was mostly "I'm not on the clock here. I don't have to pretend to like you." comment to the community that did her in.
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KamenRiderBlade
07/06/18 9:30:35 PM
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Esrac posted...
I suspect it was mostly "I'm not on the clock here. I don't have to pretend to like you." comment to the community that did her in.
That basically revealed her "True Nature" to the world.
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Esrac
07/06/18 9:39:14 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Esrac posted...
I suspect it was mostly "I'm not on the clock here. I don't have to pretend to like you." comment to the community that did her in.
That basically revealed her "True Nature" to the world.


It would be like having a uniformed employee, in uniform, tell their customers to fuck off.
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Shotgunnova
07/06/18 9:55:04 PM
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In a world where discussions should be encouraged, and not belittled, yet the opposite becomes reality, I've apparently found myself in the midst of a war I never intended to partake in.
lmao
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solosnake
07/06/18 9:56:53 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
In a world where discussions should be encouraged, and not belittled, yet the opposite becomes reality, I've apparently found myself in the midst of a war I never intended to partake in.
lmao

if she was on tis board i would mark her for trolling tbh
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chrono625
07/06/18 9:58:20 PM
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MorganTJ posted...
I'm not sure how warranted the other guy's termination was though.


He came rushing to her defense.

He called out everyone that was calling her out.

That's why. He chose the wrong hill to fall on his sword.

Being an SJW or pulling *insert race or gender here* card doesn't justify or excuse shit behavior.
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Leanaunfurled
07/06/18 10:03:19 PM
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solosnake posted...
if she was on tis board i would mark her for trolling tbh

That's Deroir that said that, not Jessica.
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SpiritSephiroth
07/06/18 10:18:45 PM
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Apparently the woman was one of those Twitter users who was disrespectful when total biscuit died. Shows just what kind of person she is.
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chrono625
07/06/18 10:21:34 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Apparently the woman was one of those Twitter users who was disrespectful when total biscuit died. Shows just what kind of person she is.


And apparently she wasn't very popular at ANet either.
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Cobra1010
07/06/18 10:31:13 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Apparently the woman was one of those Twitter users who was disrespectful when total biscuit died. Shows just what kind of person she is.


Thats really messed up. Just like David crooks.
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D E E G S
07/06/18 11:19:39 PM
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Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.
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SpinKirby
07/06/18 11:21:31 PM
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What's the downside?
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chrono625
07/06/18 11:21:35 PM
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D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Dude, it's the precedent that society has set.

Say something stupid, people complain that person should be fired, company fires person to save face.

If people didnt have such fragile egos or feelings the worst that should happen is a slap on the wrist and a strike.

I'm saying fair based on prior instances.
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Balnazarr
07/06/18 11:27:07 PM
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D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Same happens irl too. Don't. be. stupid when you'reon the clock.
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chrono625
07/06/18 11:28:02 PM
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Balnazarr posted...
D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Same happens irl too. Don't. be. stupid when you'reon the clock.


Tbf she wasnt on the clock. BUT her Twitter handle did show her as an ANet employee.
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Leanaunfurled
07/06/18 11:28:13 PM
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D E E G S posted...
Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.

Only if you're a crappy person that lacks a filter in what you send out for the world to see. >_> If not, you're good!
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Shut_TheF---Up
07/06/18 11:30:44 PM
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D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


There are loads of people that have been "doing Twitter" for years that haven't gotten themselves in hot shit because they aren't shitheads like that woman
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DarthAragorn
07/06/18 11:31:25 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Balnazarr posted...
D E E G S posted...
Times we live in, these days you can end a career in 140 characters or less if what you say pisses off enough people. That said, nothing targeted at her from Deroir warranted her going off on him. I mean really? What exactly did he do wrong? He was casual and respectful in his 4 tweets and she just shit all over him for it. I don't believe this alone warranted firing but again, this is the times we live in. Don't do twitter, it's just a ticking time bomb. Eventually you'll tweet something you'll regret forever.


Same happens irl too. Don't. be. stupid when you'reon the clock.


Tbf she wasnt on the clock. BUT her Twitter handle did show her as an ANet employee.

It was also a reply to a very prominent customer involving her work

Almost like if an employee of a university had told a major donor to fuck off
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Doe
07/06/18 11:33:05 PM
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"Journalists" act like being at same job for longer means you can treat your fans like dogshit and say that you're "wearing a mask" when you're talking as a dev and that you don't like any of your fans and have no consequences from your employer who you represent.
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