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Shadow Dino
07/01/18 4:30:25 PM
#402:


Oh my goodness
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KommunistKoala
07/01/18 4:31:58 PM
#403:


oh and the goalie stepped off the line early lol
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 4:32:06 PM
#404:


KommunistKoala posted...
miss aside, how did they not even get a red card

christ


Attempted to win the ball which is apparently only a yellow now. Only red if you don't attempt to win the ball
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:32:37 PM
#405:


Alright. Pens it is

Good luck ctes, this is one of the worst experiences for anyone
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SmartMuffin
07/01/18 4:33:33 PM
#406:


and that's why you go ahead and take an obvious penalty rather than simply allow the goal to be scored!
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The_Ctes
07/01/18 4:33:48 PM
#407:


See you guys on the other side
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Zylothewolf
07/01/18 4:33:50 PM
#408:


Denmark got this.
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 4:34:14 PM
#409:


Good luck Ctes
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:35:19 PM
#410:


That 100% was not an attempt to play the ball lol

Changing the rule like they did was to avoid "triple jeopardy" - that one incident could lead to a pen, red card and suspension.

But as a result of the miss, Denmark got away with that foul with basically no punishment
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:35:39 PM
#411:


If Peter Schmeichel had any doubts about Kasper's paternity, they went away w/ that save!
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:36:39 PM
#412:


Oh, and I saw a guy who looked EXACTLY like Juan Mata while I was in the pub.
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:38:48 PM
#413:


Motherfucking

No

Chris =(
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:39:04 PM
#414:


Shootout matching the quality of the game
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:40:46 PM
#415:


The Denmark keeper is a damn legend
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:42:06 PM
#416:


^ It's not all Carlsberg and Bacon over there!
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:43:25 PM
#417:


uh oh
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KommunistKoala
07/01/18 4:43:52 PM
#418:


ref just letting both keepers do whatever they want
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:44:24 PM
#419:


jcgamer107 posted...
The Denmark keeper is a damn legend

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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:45:01 PM
#420:


KommunistKoala posted...
ref just letting both keepers do whatever they want

i feel like in general keepers are never called out for cheating past the line a little
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:45:26 PM
#421:


jcgamer107 posted...
uh oh

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SmartMuffin
07/01/18 4:46:15 PM
#422:


What a ridiculous game. Can we declare both teams losers and just let Russia go directly to the semis?
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 4:46:36 PM
#423:


:( :( :( so sorry Ctes, that was absolutely brutal
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:47:26 PM
#424:


Fuck me Denmark deserved so much better. Heartbreaker.

Schmeichel absolutely let down by his penalty takers there.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
07/01/18 4:47:42 PM
#425:


No one missed the net all day
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Dr_Football
07/01/18 4:48:01 PM
#426:


The only thing that makes me happy in PKs is when the shooters who stutter step miss
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:48:16 PM
#427:


Aw, shitty pants!
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Zylothewolf
07/01/18 4:48:23 PM
#428:


Ouch. Well you can't miss three goals in a PK.
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:48:29 PM
#429:


Look at Modric that beautifully undersized odd-looking man

Good luck Croatia
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The_Ctes
07/01/18 4:48:43 PM
#430:


A shame our shooters were no better than this. Our goalkeeper better be man of the match.

I hope anyone thinking Croatia are finalist favorites are doubting that because Denmark was the better team that match and it's not often that's the case.
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:49:00 PM
#431:


Zylothewolf posted...
Ouch. Well you can't miss three goals in a PK.


Croatia missed two as well!
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249USDollars
07/01/18 4:49:39 PM
#432:


KommunistKoala posted...
oh and the goalie stepped off the line early lol

Have you never watched or played soccer before? EVERY goalie does this and it is rarely, if ever, called
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:49:59 PM
#433:


Hope they get bummed next round.
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The_Ctes
07/01/18 4:50:18 PM
#434:


Croatia missed three penalties too lol
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 4:52:06 PM
#435:


The_Ctes posted...
A shame our shooters were no better than this. Our goalkeeper better be man of the match.

I hope anyone thinking Croatia are finalist favorites are doubting that because Denmark was the better team that match and it's not often that's the case.


Croatia looked very weak but I wouldn't want to write them off on one performance, especially when Denmark were very tactically clever in this game and nullified them

Croatia should beat Russia and have a stronger midfield than England or Colombia, who are both less disciplined than Denmark. Still my favourites for the final but I'll admit that the game tonight did a bit of damage to that belief.
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CaptainOfCrush
07/01/18 4:54:33 PM
#436:


Sorry Ctes, I was rooting for you guys =(
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 4:58:30 PM
#437:


@Vlado

What's your take on Croatia's date with Russia?
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 5:02:34 PM
#439:


Premier League penalties last year: 21/80 saved (just over 26%)
La Liga: 23/111 saved (just over 20%)

Tonight: 6/11 saved (54%)
Spain/Russia: 2/10 saved (20%)
Total: 8/21 saved (38%)

Significantly higher. People cracking under pressure and goalkeepers being more prepared for shootouts I imagine.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
07/01/18 5:03:29 PM
#440:


Croatia moving on is fine by me, that country is responsible for one of my favorite games after all.
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Dark Silvergun
07/01/18 5:09:03 PM
#441:


Legend:
QTF = Quarter Final
SMF = Semi Final
TPP = Third Place Playoff
FIN = Final

[A1] = [Uruguay 4W-0D-0L] - 2
[B2] = [Portugal 1W-2D-1L] - 1

QTF>[A1] = [Uruguay 4W-0D-0L]
QTF>[C1] = [France 3W-1D-0L]

[C1] = [France 3W-1D-0L] - 4
[D2] = [Argentina 1W-1D-2L] - 3

SMF>>>>>[??] = [---]
SMF>>>>>[??] = [---]

[E1] = [Brazil 2W-1D-0L]
[F2] = [Mexico 2W-0D-1L]

QTF>[??] = [---]
QTF>[??] = [---]

[G1] = [Belgium 3W-0D-0L]
[H2] = [Japan 1W-1D-1L]

FIN>>>>>>>>>[??] = [---]
FIN>>>>>>>>>[??] = [---]

TPP>>>>>>>>>[??] = [---]
TPP>>>>>>>>>[??] = [---]

[B1] = [Spain 1W-3D-0L] - 1(3)
[A2] = [Russia 2W-1D-1L] - 1(4)

QTF>[A2] = [Russia 2W-1D-1L]
QTF>[D1] = [Croatia 3W-1D-0L]

[D1] = [Croatia 3W-1D-0L] - 1(3)
[C2] = [Denmark 1W-3D-0L] - 1(2)

SMF>>>>>[??] = [---]
SMF>>>>>[??] = [---]

[F1] = [Sweden 2W-0D-1L]
[E2] = [Switzerland 1W-2D-0L]

QTF>[??] = [---]
QTF>[??] = [---]

[H1] = [Colombia 2W-0D-1L]
[G2] = [England 2W-0D-1L]
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 5:11:05 PM
#442:


XIII_rocks posted...
Premier League penalties last year: 21/80 saved (just over 26%)

Tonight: 6/11 saved (54%)
Spain/Russia: 2/10 saved (20%)
Total: 8/21 saved (38%)

Significantly higher. People cracking under pressure and goalkeepers being more prepared for shootouts I imagine.


In the premier league you have your lead penalty taker on pens. In a shootout you have to use players who aren't the main penalty taker. That probably doesn't help numbers either
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 5:11:21 PM
#443:


Oh duh, good point
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 5:14:52 PM
#444:


Also I don't care how ahead of myself this is

If you said to any team before the tournament that your path to the final is:

Beat Tunisia
Beat Panama
Beat Colombia
Beat Sweden or Switzerland
Beat Croatia or Russia

Then they would bite your hand off. I haven't looked but that has to be up there with the weakest ever route to the final in a 32 team tournament
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RyoCaliente
07/01/18 5:20:24 PM
#445:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
If Peter Schmeichel had any doubts about Kasper's paternity, they went away w/ that save!


Peter actually only ever saved 1 penalty in his entire career.

England fans getting so cocky really makes me desperate for Colombia to spank them though.
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Hardcore_Adult
07/01/18 5:21:48 PM
#446:


Fuck it, Pete was still the best Keeper United had even with that. He even scored a goal himself, so eat that.
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 5:23:06 PM
#447:


I think the Colombia match is the toughest of the potential games en route to the final and I'd say it's probably like 55/45 in favor of England right now purely because they were able to rest starters.

I also think it's one of those matches that will become really clear who is going to win in like the opening 15-20 minutes
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XIII_rocks
07/01/18 5:27:50 PM
#448:


RyoCaliente posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...
If Peter Schmeichel had any doubts about Kasper's paternity, they went away w/ that save!


Peter actually only ever saved 1 penalty in his entire career.

England fans getting so cocky really makes me desperate for Colombia to spank them though.


90% of it is tongue in cheek, I hope you know that! I was spamming this topic with "it's coming home" when we were thrashing Panama for instance but I know it doesn't make us ~the best~ or something

It was good to absolutely thrash a bad team whereas before we've struggled against teams we clearly have better players than (USA and Algeria 2010, Trinidad and Tobago 2006, Iceland 2016, Costa Rica 2014 although in fairness that was a dead rubber), so that showed something different to usual. But I've really come down from my optimism for two reasons - 1, because Colombia looked so lethal against Poland and I didn't expect Japan to lose and for them to top the group, and 2, because that draw is so...within our grasp that it feels like something absolutely will go wrong and we'll be punished by the football gods for even daring to dream of the final
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jcgamer107
07/01/18 5:36:47 PM
#449:


no England fans are legitimately cocky lol
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ShatteredElysium
07/01/18 5:36:51 PM
#450:


Also it's not just England fans. Bookmaker odds universallt have England as the 4th favorite behind France, Brazil and narrowly behind Croatia. And Croatia are only ahead of them because they have already qualified for the quarter finals, they were behind them prior to that

Which means bookmakers think England are the strongest team in that half. Granted this might be somewhat slanted towards minimizing losses due to heavy betting from England fans but I'm looking at odds across all bookmakers, not just English ones. Seems like the consensus is:

Brazil - 7/2
France - 7/2
Croatia - 5/1 to 11/2
England - 11/2 to 6/1
Belgium - 6/1
Uruguay - 14/1
Colombia - 18/1

Everyone else varies between 20/1 (Russia) and 200/1 (Japan)

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The_Ctes
07/01/18 5:48:11 PM
#451:


XIII_rocks posted...
The_Ctes posted...
A shame our shooters were no better than this. Our goalkeeper better be man of the match.

I hope anyone thinking Croatia are finalist favorites are doubting that because Denmark was the better team that match and it's not often that's the case.


Croatia looked very weak but I wouldn't want to write them off on one performance, especially when Denmark were very tactically clever in this game and nullified them

Croatia should beat Russia and have a stronger midfield than England or Colombia, who are both less disciplined than Denmark. Still my favourites for the final but I'll admit that the game tonight did a bit of damage to that belief.


Yeah, they can definitely get there, and it wouldn't surprise me. But they're very likely not to go into into the semi-final as favorites. Wouldn't even rule Russia completely out of it.
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