Current Events > Just came back from jurassic world 2. I didn't like it. Spoilers

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I don't think it's completely horrible, but... yeah. I just didn't like it.

The indomitable raptor... really? And that's the design that's supposed to scare or awe us? It looked like any old dinosaur with a streak of yellow like it was some hotrod car. The dinosaur cgi for jw 1 was laughably bad, but this time it was just bad.

Kind of a disappointing final boss. Nay super disappointing actually, because at least jw 1 had the hilariously awsome raptor and t-Rex team up to fight the indomitable Rex, with that epic whale dinosaur dragging it down. This time it was just... meh. Super meh.

Felt like they had more of a subplot with the maisie kid because that felt super rushed with the "she's a clone too" or whatever and I thought there was more to it than that. Like maybe she could communicate with the dinosaurs or... ? Not saying I want the creepy jp 4 idea of human dino hybrid that was thankfully scrapped but I just wonder if there's something I missed there, like maybe end credits scene? I walked out immediately after all.

And... yeah I guess that's it. I don't feel like there was anything else of note with this movie. Was hoping for another so bad it's good popcorn flick like the first but I think they got a little too big headed and thought they had made an actually good movie instead of not.

Ps EDIT: oh yeah now I remember. What exactly is the deal with making a random character that had 1 minute of screen time in the original jurassic park some kinda master villain mad scientist in jw 1 and now this? It's hilarious yeah but just wondering what the deal with that is.

xyphilia posted...

Not saying I want the creepy jp 4 idea of human dino hybrid

This is the only way I want this franchise moving forward!

It's already beyond stupid and ridiculous, at least have fun with it.
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That's not fun. Jw's cheese and characters taking themselves too seriously (Wilson Fisk actually wanted to weaponize blue dinosaurs lamafo) was fun, but that idea is creepy, like sci-fi horror mercy kill the monster creepy.

You know what I just saw a post that perfectly encapsulated what I thought of the movie in just a few sentences:

"The first half drags so much. And it never really picks up or gets much better from there."

^ ^ so true. I was fidgeting in my seat with this whole save the dinosaurs nonsense (I had heard rumors that this was going to be the plot of the sequel, but I didn't believe. I didn't believe). And this whole conveniently "benevolent" guy who like Claire wants to save the dinosaurs. And the obvious bad guy hunter who I would have enjoyed the twist of actually being a good guy and not an ass.

Post credits scene:
Pterodactyls flying around Las Vegas and landing on the Eiffel Tower there.
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Speaking of which, there was a scene I missed a minute of, it was when the wormy bad guy goes into the old man's room and apparently kills him? I missed the entire exchange there and how he kills him, what happens?

Also did they reveal the old man knew of the wormy guy's plan to auction off the dinosaurs or that the old man was actually behind everything? Or was the exchange just the old man reprimanding the suit for his deceitfulness and getting killed by the suit in retaliation? Movie was dragging and I really needed to go to the restroom, so of all the scenes I could have missed that was the one I was most curious about.

But how was chris pratt
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InstaReturns posted...

But how was chris pratt

hot
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And who the hell is Lockwood, was he mentioned in jurassic park lore before or is he just a recent retcon who was always there? I was so confused when Claire got the phone call to some dude's estate, and assumed it was the family of the dead billionaire Indian guy who was her boss and died in jw 1. Guess not

I really enjoyed the movie but the Indoraptor was pretty weak. The I-Rex was a meta commentary on the movie itself which was pretty cool. The Indoraptor just seems like the people making this movie didn't know that. They said it was hyperintelligent and could follow human orders and all this stuff... but it's just a prototype that can't do that stuff yet. So it was just a smaller I-Rex. The I-Rex could fucking cloak and they decided an upgrade was just a big raptor? It could have at least had some cool tricks.

specialkid8 posted...

I really enjoyed the movie but the Indoraptor was pretty weak. The I-Rex was a meta commentary on the movie itself which was pretty cool. The Indoraptor just seems like the people making this movie didn't know that. They said it was hyperintelligent and could follow human orders and all this stuff... but it's just a prototype that can't do that stuff yet. So it was just a smaller I-Rex. The I-Rex could fucking cloak and they decided an upgrade was just a big raptor? It could have at least had some cool tricks.

That's kind of the point. It's a prototype. It wasn't able to do all that other shit yet. That's the whole reason why they wanted Blue's DNA

Well, unless you wanna go with the "highly advanced prototype' trope where the prototype is better than the production model
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The Nintendo Master posted...

Post credits scene:
Pterodactyls flying around Las Vegas and landing on the Eiffel Tower there.

Wait for real? I feel like they did something with pterodactyls in the ending of one of the jp movies but I can't remember what.

InstaReturns posted...

But how was chris pratt

Awesome as per usual. Way out of bryce Dallas howard's league. I watched the first one for him, and I stomached the second one for him.

xyphilia posted...

Speaking of which, there was a scene I missed a minute of, it was when the wormy bad guy goes into the old man's room and apparently kills him? I missed the entire exchange there and how he kills him, what happens?

Also did they reveal the old man knew of the wormy guy's plan to auction off the dinosaurs or that the old man was actually behind everything? Or was the exchange just the old man reprimanding the suit for his deceitfulness and getting killed by the suit in retaliation? Movie was dragging and I really needed to go to the restroom, so of all the scenes I could have missed that was the one I was most curious about.

Girl tells grandfather about the plot, grandfather tells her to go to bed and he'll take care of it in the morning, nanny tells bad guy that grandfather wants to see him, he goes to see him, grandfather gets angry when he finds out what all is going on, tells bad guy to pick up the phone and call the police on himself, bad guy picks up phone, puts down phone, picks up pillow, suffocates grandfather off screen. Maybe he farted into the pillow first? \_()_/
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xyphilia posted...

And who the hell is Lockwood, was he mentioned in jurassic park lore before or is he just a recent retcon who was always there? I was so confused when Claire got the phone call to some dude's estate, and assumed it was the family of the dead billionaire Indian guy who was her boss and died in jw 1. Guess not

He was the former business partner of John Hammond (the old man from the original Jurassic Park).
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xyphilia posted...

Speaking of which, there was a scene I missed a minute of, it was when the wormy bad guy goes into the old man's room and apparently kills him? I missed the entire exchange there and how he kills him, what happens?

Also did they reveal the old man knew of the wormy guy's plan to auction off the dinosaurs or that the old man was actually behind everything? Or was the exchange just the old man reprimanding the suit for his deceitfulness and getting killed by the suit in retaliation? Movie was dragging and I really needed to go to the restroom, so of all the scenes I could have missed that was the one I was most curious about.

Now it's getting to point where it's obvious TC and others ITT didn't even watch the film

If you cant even get the basic plot, you deserve to be upset/confused
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specialkid8 posted...

I really enjoyed the movie but the Indoraptor was pretty weak. The I-Rex was a meta commentary on the movie itself which was pretty cool. The Indoraptor just seems like the people making this movie didn't know that. They said it was hyperintelligent and could follow human orders and all this stuff... but it's just a prototype that can't do that stuff yet. So it was just a smaller I-Rex. The I-Rex could fucking cloak and they decided an upgrade was just a big raptor? It could have at least had some cool tricks.

Right? Fucking disappointing shit the more I dwell on it.

The Nintendo Master posted...

Post credits scene:
Pterodactyls flying around Las Vegas and landing on the Eiffel Tower there.

Fuck me, I left the theater. :(

The Nintendo Master posted...

xyphilia posted...

Speaking of which, there was a scene I missed a minute of, it was when the wormy bad guy goes into the old man's room and apparently kills him? I missed the entire exchange there and how he kills him, what happens?

Also did they reveal the old man knew of the wormy guy's plan to auction off the dinosaurs or that the old man was actually behind everything? Or was the exchange just the old man reprimanding the suit for his deceitfulness and getting killed by the suit in retaliation? Movie was dragging and I really needed to go to the restroom, so of all the scenes I could have missed that was the one I was most curious about.

Girl tells grandfather about the plot, grandfather tells her to go to bed and he'll take care of it in the morning, nanny tells bad guy that grandfather wants to see him, he goes to see him, grandfather gets angry when he finds out what all is going on, tells bad guy to pick up the phone and call the police on himself, bad guy picks up phone, puts down phone, picks up pillow, suffocates grandfather off screen. Maybe he farted into the pillow first? \_()_/

Ah thanks. So the old man really didn't know. Sounds like an idiot. Lol at farting into the pillow.

I can't believe the goal was just to auction off the dinosaurs. Really? This operation must have cost hundreds of millions, and he's auctioning them off for like a meager 4 million dollars? Fucking really? 4 million in 2018? I was actually raising my hands and doing a "seriously?" motion at that part, especially when Zola auctioned off the iRaptor for a pitiful 20 million was it? That's chump change, Apple would have fired him immediately.

And they're still insisting on dinosaurs being even remotely viable and efficient weapons? I'm starting to think they're serious guys, and not doing a bit -__-'

http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Jurassic_Park:_Chaos_Effect

They just need to do this for the next movie. Can you imagine if the Ultimasaurus was the big bad? It would be so god damn dumb but so much fun. Jump that shark.

Just watching the original again was enough to remind me of how dumb that Jurassic World was and kill any anticipation for this movie.
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xyphilia posted...

oh yeah now I remember. What exactly is the deal with making a random character that had 1 minute of screen time in the original jurassic park some kinda master villain mad scientist in jw 1 and now this? It's hilarious yeah but just wondering what the deal with that is.

He was a more prominent character in the book. Seeing him have a more active role was a nice throw back to me.
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the cgi for the raptors in the original was great and still is imo

I just miss when the series was about an old man and his creations running amok destroying anything. The old man can't do anything but watch as his creation fades to nothing. Very biblical.

I thought the movie was literally a 5/10.

Then again, I haven't seen Jurassic Park since part 1 or 2.
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Rob Cesternino posted...

xyphilia posted...

And who the hell is Lockwood, was he mentioned in jurassic park lore before or is he just a recent retcon who was always there? I was so confused when Claire got the phone call to some dude's estate, and assumed it was the family of the dead billionaire Indian guy who was her boss and died in jw 1. Guess not

He was the former business partner of John Hammond (the old man from the original Jurassic Park).

Yeah I was wondering, did they ever mention that in any movie ever, or did they just start off this movie by saying "oh by the way, John Hammond had a partner that we never mentioned before"

Another thing for those who watched the movie, remember at the end when the dinosaurs leave the mansion and the gang see them gallop into the night jumanji style? Maisie was hugging chris pratt, and for some reason the camera starts slowly zooming in on her and her eyes. Was anyone terrified for a second that they were gonna turn into dinosaur slit eyes? I'm still unsure what the purpose of maisie even was so keep waiting for a reveal at every turn, petrified at the prospect of them doing what I'm most afraid of them doing. And since I grew up watching mj's thriller video, I'm always terrified of the hugging and then eyes turning evil slits of evil horror trope.

The movie existed to try to create a jurassic universe but its like when universal tried to do a monster universe. They forgot to make the movie. Itself enjoyable.

Sure it raises some interesting questions for a future movie human clones and dinosaurs mixed with the 'normal' world. But it was just blah. It didn't help that the trailers gave away every plot twist except the girl.
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Crappy movie aside, why do people here still watch trailers? I don't understand that notion, since trailers at worst are known to spoil a movie for you, and at the very least tend to skew your expectations for a movie. Just find it rather strange.

Although, incidentally, what twist even was there in this movie?

I like to pretend Jurassic park is the only movie in the series.

It's honestly best that way.
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Also I actually liked both of universal's recent monster movie offerings (are you implying they scrapped their universe idea?) 2014 godzilla and 2017's kong. I was expecting bad movies, but I actually was pleasantly surprised that I liked the cheese of kong and the tease of godzilla.

i like how dr wu is suddenly the big bad of the series
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I liked it well enough but yeah it was overall my least favorite.

I think I'd prefer if they were auctioning off these dinosaurs as some luxurious trophy with the side benefit of being able to clone more. I just can't buy this whole 'Dinosaurs are the perfect weapons' angle they keep trying to push.
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Darmik posted...

I liked it well enough but yeah it was overall my least favorite.

Dream raptors, Barney cameos, and a monster duck are better than Fallen Kingdom?

Kelystic posted...

i like how dr wu is suddenly the big bad of the series

I really hated this
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He was the one actor who was willing to return. I can't blame them for wanting to take advantage of that.

I think it was funny that they gave him a Die Hard death.

So the nanny knew about the apparently cloned child I'm assuming or...? What part does she play, if any?

After the bad guy dismisses her that's it we don't hear from her again? Thought she was like a surrogate mother to maisie. And what the hell at a child being all alone in a mansion with no friends, no phone, no nothing. Is the movie even set in 2018/the modern 21st century or not, so many things indicate not.

xyphilia posted...

2014 godzilla and 2017's kong

The universal monster universe was started with the mummy reboot with Tom Cruise. Godzilla and Kong is Warner.

xyphilia posted...

why do people here still watch trailers?

Because I'm not going to sit in the there're and close my eyes and plug my ears like some sheltered nerd.

I see a few movies every month, trailers are. Going to be seen.
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Ah huh it's wb? Interesting. Yeah I don't know much about what universal thinks they're doing. Actually forgot there even was a recent reboot of the mummy.

Also lol at the plug line.

xyphilia posted...

So the nanny knew about the apparently cloned child I'm assuming or...? What part does she play, if any?

I assume so since she raised her and her "mother" since birth. It would be odd if the daughter had a daughter she didn't know about, especially if that daughter was born after she died.

xyphilia posted...

After the bad guy dismisses her that's it we don't hear from her again? Thought she was like a surrogate mother to maisie.

There isn't really anything she could have said or done. I'm sure she'll come back to fight for her another day but, frankly, it was getting up to the finale and she didn't have any further part to play.

xyphilia posted...

And what the hell at a child being all alone in a mansion with no friends, no phone, no nothing. Is the movie even set in 2018/the modern 21st century or not, so many things indicate not.

It's pretty easy to shelter a child. Especially if you live in a massive secluded mansion. She seems to have plenty to do there and has a very active imagination. I doubt she ever felt the need to question it.

I liked it because of the action but there wasn't much to it, and I thought it lasted way to long, the limited story it told could have been done in about 90 minutes.
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The Nanny knew. She says something like "I raised both of them" before she got fired.

It was weird how she was never seem again though. I guess she left right before everything went crazy. Her plot fell victim to the speedy pace of the movie. I think everything happened within one day lol.
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the twist was the granddaughter finding out she was actually a clone of her mother, they are one and the same plus she has a little dino in her, its why she was talking Iris like prey
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A more important question:

Did the child age? I'm a little confused over the timeline of events.

They must have cloned his daughter ages ago so that there would be time for the falling out between Hammond and this recently introduced never-heard-before Lockwood. Which would mean... she doesn't age. And that would certainly have her of all people ask questions, especially if she was being educated.

xyphilia posted...

Crappy movie aside, why do people here still watch trailers? I don't understand that notion, since trailers at worst are known to spoil a movie for you, and at the very least tend to skew your expectations for a movie. Just find it rather strange.

Although, incidentally, what twist even was there in this movie?

Personally, I don't care about spoilers
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Darmik posted...

Dinosaurs are the perfect weapons' angle they keep trying to push.

Not just weapons but test subjects as well. Can't ban animal testing on an animal that is extinct.
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Offhand remark, was anyone else reminded of kong 2017 (or really most movies nowadays) and wondered if they included the hot half-Asian "dinosaur vet" to secure the Chinese market? Only unlike the one from 2017 kong this one they overcompensate in being tough and "I can handle anything" attitude and I just find it a pity that I can recognize tokenism so easily now with the 2 side characters.

I mention kong and also add 2014's godzilla because I feel it started a trend with these recent monster movies where the monster is a good guy. Like, while they can probably eat or step on the heroes, they end up fighting a bigger threat that's much more dangerous to the protagonists and in so doing actually benefit the protagonists in a way. Like in jw 1 the original t-Rex is the one you're rooting for as it fights the iRex! Same with blue and iRex/iRaptor. That's an interesting change in perspective and I'm kinda into it, I liked rooting for godzilla or Kong or t-rex.

xyphilia posted...

Offhand remark, was anyone else reminded of kong 2017 (or really most movies nowadays) and wondered if they included the hot half-Asian "dinosaur vet" to secure the Chinese market?

I only saw the 100% Mexican paleo-veterinarian. Where was the half Asian one?
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