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Meow1000
06/16/18 11:45:42 PM
#153:


Oh and Dowolf literally claimed a chair.

A chair
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ShatteredElysium
06/16/18 11:47:23 PM
#154:


Panthera posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...

In both my games as scum, town has lost due to following the cop too much. Last one is self explanatory.


The one where one of our biggest fuck ups was not trusting the cop? The one where according to the scum board, although you didn't go through with it, you seriously considered a plan of action that would have guaranteed you lost had the wrong person been scanned and town simply paid attention to the scan results?

ShatteredElysium posted...
Town absolutely is lazy. Any chance to take the thinking out of their hands, they grasp it


lol


Not following on your first part. If we had gone with that plan, we wouldn't have killed either scanner and would have virtually guaranteed a scan on the last scum since there was 2 scanners, 2 unscanned and the scum we wanted left didn't fear either scan. The only chance of it going wrong was if the scanned targeted one of the thought to be confirmed roles

Whether you trusted the cop or not was irrelevant. You either trusted him and we got cleared with a scan. Or you didn't trust him and mislynched him.
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ShatteredElysium
06/16/18 11:59:22 PM
#156:


MI said he would have scanned me prior night if not for the replace. He also said earlier that day who he would scan that night.

So yeah it was a risk I wouldn't get scanned (Death scanned Arti for what it's worth) but it was a calculated risk that wasn't 50/50 in my eyes
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Forceful_Dragon
06/17/18 12:40:17 AM
#157:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
I was saving face. Literally my opinion of who I save trumps everyone elses.


No one was in any position to question your claimed actions. You were an uncontested town doctor.

Your timing on your claim was already incredibly bad, why would you feel the need to compound that by lying for no reason?
And to think i was starting at least see the silver lining on your badly timed claimed actions since you got yourself modkilled so at least you told us your actions beforehand.

But no, those were a lie that literally served as the only reason i doubted foolmo.

God damn it none of it makes any sense.
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Nanahara715
06/17/18 2:08:47 AM
#158:


VeryInsane posted...
Oh

Zam lied about his night action targets

He targeted Puns N1 And Chris N2 and I guess because he didnt want to admit he saved scum


Um, wow.

Yeah, this is the shit I was talking about when I said "Town will lose if it tries to be cute."

Like, it didn't happen, but I shot into Chris on N2, and if Chris doesn't flip BP (which Alakazam had absolutely no way of knowing), I'm 100% the guy getting lynched the following day for claiming to have shot a guy who was never protected, therefore faking my shot.
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Nanahara715
06/17/18 2:26:04 AM
#159:


Oh, I was reminiscing of games I'd played with MI and thought of YYH Mafia where, in the final 6, we MLd the Cop (Cecelia) who had provided exactly zero scans and had claimed to have been roleblocked every single night, and we had tracking on all the players and had come to the conclusion that the only way Cecilia was not scum was if MI and Tedd were scum together AND Tedd specifically was a Ninja roleblocker who was allowed to submit both the kill and roleblock on the same night while MI took no actions (this, of course, was the actual scenario).

Anyways, it reminded me that Tedd and MI know each other IRL, so I shot Tedd a PM asking about MI.

But now that I'm typing this out, it might have been @DamionDL that Tedd knew, so maybe I'm crazy/wrong.
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ScareChan
06/17/18 3:01:02 AM
#160:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Town literally had 4 scanning roles and a backup. 2 godfathers isn't that bad when one of them was a role that moved every night so could be caught by other means unlike a normal godfather


I wasnt a backup, I brought someone back for 1 day in my slot. Backup was a bluff
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ScareChan
06/17/18 3:02:08 AM
#161:


Also Dels, did you submit me for backup please and thank you. I signed up for the anniversary game @Dels

Also can I get some tips for the community? As in how it works, I see an iso button but whats some terms they use and any other quirks of the site? Not like player tips just site tips
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ScareChan
06/17/18 3:08:40 AM
#162:


Meow1000 posted...
Oh and Dowolf literally claimed a chair.

A chair


I recall wrecking that claim

or him claiming it because of me
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ScareChan
06/17/18 3:10:00 AM
#163:


nana I would like to see your eulogy to mi
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DoubleTangicide
06/17/18 7:43:48 AM
#164:


RIP MI :(

Ill miss you brother :(
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MZero11
06/17/18 7:55:58 AM
#165:


Wow did this topic become a game of mafia

Anyway in so hard for Persona 5
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turbopuns2
06/17/18 9:25:17 AM
#166:


ShatteredElysium posted...
So yeah it was a risk I wouldn't get scanned (Death scanned Arti for what it's worth) but it was a calculated risk that wasn't 50/50 in my eyes


Just a note, who knows who death would have scanned had he seen ColZach flip godfather instead of SE flip.
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Meow1000
06/17/18 11:50:54 AM
#167:


MZero11 posted...
Wow did this topic become a game of mafia

Anyway in so hard for Persona 5


Clear attempt to stifle discussion.
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DoubleTangicide
06/17/18 12:03:11 PM
#168:


##Vote: Mzero
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Dels
06/17/18 12:10:08 PM
#169:


ScareChan posted...
Also Dels, did you submit me for backup please and thank you. I signed up for the anniversary game @Dels

Also can I get some tips for the community? As in how it works, I see an iso button but whats some terms they use and any other quirks of the site? Not like player tips just site tips


Yes, and yes, I saw that! I'm excited!

The ISO button is what lets you see all of a player's posts in isolation.

This explains most of the other stuff:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/9256

Terms maybe here?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Category:Terminology

The most common ones that you wouldn't know are:
NAI - not allignment indicative (i.e. "lurking is NAI, town and scum both lurk sometimes")
angleshooting - breaking rules by doing something that is "technically" not against the rules, but is still clearly against the spirit of the game
AtE - appeal to emotion ("how could you ever think I am scum here?! you know my town game, we are best friends outside of the game, wtf!")
CFD - board 8 special (we're not all that special, every community creates new wagons with 3 minutes to lynch)
dvc - graveyard chat (the anniversary game will have one on discord, it becomes a huge group of people spectating the game once they die and is just as active as the game itself)
ITA - during big games like anniversary (called mashes), twice during the day, there will be an hour long period where every single player gets a free dayvig shot with a 15% chance of hitting. "In thread attacks"
Pocket - when a wolf acts super nice to you to make you townread them, they are pocketing you
TWTBAW - too wolfy to be a wolfy. i.e. someone being so scummy that they must be town.
Spew - when a wolf's death makes someone's allignment obvious. i.e. i get lynched as wolf, i spent the whole day subtly shading arti and convincing people to vote him, even before i was in danger, you can tell that arti must be town.
VCA - vote count analysis, trying to solve things using the timing of wagons and stuff.
WIM - "wants it more" i.e. someone's clear passion, drive, desire to win.

oh, and they say wolves instead of scum or mafia.
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turbopuns2
06/17/18 12:14:40 PM
#170:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Other pet peeve is towns penchant for mass claiming and doing it early. Most of the time it benefits scum way more than town. Not always but it's usually the case.


From the scum perspective, I don't think there was a single town claim in the last game which helped town more than it helped scum, based on timing.

MI's is definitely the best. Could have just hard signaled chris was scum, but overall not a bad choice to keep town on track there.

Nana's was second best, but it didn't really help anything.

Shad maybe had some justification since he had scans to reveal, and you never know what scum might already know (like we might have scanned him and known something about him) but his information didn't really confirm anything. And Han was pretty screwed just by the whole block + flipped extra kill from a scum who was known blocked night 1 logic. Shad didn't need to reveal the roleblock was a lie and scare definitely didn't need to claim. Ironically scare's claim is what got him killed.

Scum was way behind in terms of power and then town just laid all their cards face up on the table. Yes there was some upside to it, but if town just doesn't do that scum has like 0 chance of getting back into the game, period.
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turbopuns2
06/17/18 12:26:57 PM
#171:


Who did shad track when he died btw?
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MZero11
06/17/18 12:57:42 PM
#172:


DoubleTangicide posted...
##Vote: Mzero


Rule #1 - MZero is always scum
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Meow1000
06/17/18 1:45:16 PM
#173:


Giving up modkill
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foolm0r0n
06/17/18 2:35:16 PM
#174:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
But no, those were a lie that literally served as the only reason i doubted foolmo.

Why would you doubt me because of his claim? That sounds like a dumb excuse
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ScareChan
06/17/18 2:40:21 PM
#175:


Dels posted...
ScareChan posted...
Also Dels, did you submit me for backup please and thank you. I signed up for the anniversary game @Dels

Also can I get some tips for the community? As in how it works, I see an iso button but whats some terms they use and any other quirks of the site? Not like player tips just site tips


Yes, and yes, I saw that! I'm excited!

The ISO button is what lets you see all of a player's posts in isolation.

This explains most of the other stuff:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/9256

Terms maybe here?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Category:Terminology

The most common ones that you wouldn't know are:
NAI - not allignment indicative (i.e. "lurking is NAI, town and scum both lurk sometimes")
angleshooting - breaking rules by doing something that is "technically" not against the rules, but is still clearly against the spirit of the game
AtE - appeal to emotion ("how could you ever think I am scum here?! you know my town game, we are best friends outside of the game, wtf!")
CFD - board 8 special (we're not all that special, every community creates new wagons with 3 minutes to lynch)
dvc - graveyard chat (the anniversary game will have one on discord, it becomes a huge group of people spectating the game once they die and is just as active as the game itself)
ITA - during big games like anniversary (called mashes), twice during the day, there will be an hour long period where every single player gets a free dayvig shot with a 15% chance of hitting. "In thread attacks"
Pocket - when a wolf acts super nice to you to make you townread them, they are pocketing you
TWTBAW - too wolfy to be a wolfy. i.e. someone being so scummy that they must be town.
Spew - when a wolf's death makes someone's allignment obvious. i.e. i get lynched as wolf, i spent the whole day subtly shading arti and convincing people to vote him, even before i was in danger, you can tell that arti must be town.
VCA - vote count analysis, trying to solve things using the timing of wagons and stuff.
WIM - "wants it more" i.e. someone's clear passion, drive, desire to win.

oh, and they say wolves instead of scum or mafia.


Thanks, is there an active messages equivalant on there
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foolm0r0n
06/17/18 2:44:12 PM
#176:


Dels posted...
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/9256

Damn those are the features I wanted, we should host our games there

Their modbot looks lame as hell though
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Dels
06/17/18 4:47:04 PM
#177:


Nothing stopping you guys from hosting a game over there and just having everyone make an account there and play. In fact, I'm sure they'd be happy to have an influx of new people.
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Dels
06/17/18 4:47:53 PM
#178:


ScareChan posted...


Thanks, is there an active messages equivalant on there


I don't know what you mean by that. Do you mean the ISO? Lets you see all of one person's posts?

Or you mean like a thing to bring you to your own posts? You can bookmark threads I think, not sure.
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turbopuns2
06/17/18 4:52:39 PM
#179:


Dels posted...
Nothing stopping you guys from hosting a game over there and just having everyone make an account there and play. In fact, I'm sure they'd be happy to have an influx of new people.


In for Dels's anonymous mafia 2
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Suprak the Stud
06/17/18 4:58:12 PM
#180:


Dels posted...
Nothing stopping you guys from hosting a game over there and just having everyone make an account there and play. In fact, I'm sure they'd be happy to have an influx of new people.


Ive played over there and its a really good community with low levels of toxicity and a lot of active, really good players.

So everyone should at least check it out imo!
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foolm0r0n
06/17/18 5:50:49 PM
#181:


Suprak the Stud posted...
really good community with low levels of toxicity and a lot of active, really good players

meh sounds boring
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:03:58 PM
#182:


Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned. I was MKed without warning day 1 as doctor after asking to replace (I was one of only two town power in the entire game) and was never given a reason why. Day 1 was mostly dealing with a player that's Corrik if Corrik were completely incompetent at everything relating to Mafia or even intelligence who basically controlled the entire first day and made the game unreadable. It was impossible to play because of that guy, and I wanted out... So I got MKed for it? Alrighty then. In a turbo a town player who was calling me "obvious town" nightkilled me solely to retaliate for voting for him. I never saw anything I'd consider high level play, but I saw plenty of examples like those. I can pretty easily name more.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".
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IfGodCouldDie
06/17/18 7:07:19 PM
#183:


Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:13:00 PM
#184:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Yep. Trying too hard is scummy, but making a couple hundred posts of random nonsensical gibberish that pretends to be scumhunting apparently wasn't a problem!

Inactivity is a much bigger problem there, partly because some people are idiots who play in several games at once. The mandatory 10-post limit does nothing, because these people will pop in just to make ~10 useless posts and leave.

About the only reason I'd ever consider playing another game there is if it were made by us or had what I felt was a heavy enough influence from us to stop them from weighing the game down.
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Alakazamtrainer
06/17/18 7:15:35 PM
#185:


As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received
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ScareChan
06/17/18 7:18:08 PM
#186:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:18:20 PM
#187:


That sounds like a stupid role that would cause people to quit.

..But you're not the first person to come up with the idea.
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:18:41 PM
#188:


ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing


He's never learned anything and he's probably never going to.

But in fairness, he's no worse than the majority of their playerbase.
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benjamin3740
06/17/18 7:20:05 PM
#189:


Oh my god. Majora''s Mask mafia. You have 3 days to win. Enough said. Has this been done before? I'm making this work.

And no there is no game restarting, progress is still retained like in majoras mask.
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DamionDL
06/17/18 7:20:33 PM
#190:


Yeah, Tedd and I know each other IRL, not Tess and MI
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IfGodCouldDie
06/17/18 7:20:34 PM
#191:


Meow1000 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing


He's never learned anything and he's probably never going to.

But in fairness, he's no worse than the majority of their playerbase.

MU's player base or forum mafia boards player base?

Also what about a role that rerolls the current living players in to the current remaining player slots?
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:22:41 PM
#192:


Oh and that dumbass's name, ironically, was "Brainbomb".

Easily ranks as one of the worst people I have ever been in a Mafia game with. He combines extreme activity with sheer incompetency and ignores almost any response directed at him. He basically plays the game off in his own little world with little to no grasp on reality. Like 1/3 of the posts day 1 were from him and there wasn't anything of value in a single one of them.

But apparently that's so normal for him that most people were considering it totally null, which might've been even worse!
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:23:16 PM
#193:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received


Ok that answers my question. You have learned nothing


He's never learned anything and he's probably never going to.

But in fairness, he's no worse than the majority of their playerbase.

MU's player base or forum mafia boards player base?


I was referring to MU. That's how little respect I have for their playerbase.
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IfGodCouldDie
06/17/18 7:24:29 PM
#194:


Meow1000 posted...
Oh and that dumbass's name, ironically, was "Brainbomb".

Easily ranks as one of the worst people I have ever been in a Mafia game with. He combines extreme activity with sheer incompetency and ignores almost any response directed at him. He basically plays the game off in his own little world with little to no grasp on reality. Like 1/3 of the posts day 1 were from him and there wasn't anything of value in a single one of them.

But apparently that's so normal for him that most people were considering it totally null, which might've been even worse!

So hes basically like Corrik on steroids with a brain injury.
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Dels
06/17/18 7:24:50 PM
#195:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Well.

I was scum.

So.
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Reg
06/17/18 7:25:08 PM
#196:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
As a role, either for madness or impossible, how would a role that reroles the entire game and starts it over, be received

Please never let this person be involved in hosting a game on board 8.
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IfGodCouldDie
06/17/18 7:25:53 PM
#197:


Dels posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Well.

I was scum.

So.

Oh. For some reason I thought i remember you were town and getting called scum for high levels of activity.
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:26:34 PM
#198:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Oh and that dumbass's name, ironically, was "Brainbomb".

Easily ranks as one of the worst people I have ever been in a Mafia game with. He combines extreme activity with sheer incompetency and ignores almost any response directed at him. He basically plays the game off in his own little world with little to no grasp on reality. Like 1/3 of the posts day 1 were from him and there wasn't anything of value in a single one of them.

But apparently that's so normal for him that most people were considering it totally null, which might've been even worse!

So hes basically like Corrik on steroids with a brain injury.


Yep. He made that game unbearable, but apparently I was the one who got modkilled after directly asking to replace out when that place has no shortage of replacements.

"lol"
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:27:09 PM
#199:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Dels posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Well.

I was scum.

So.

Oh. For some reason I thought i remember you were town and getting called scum for high levels of activity.


I didn't remember or care his alignment, I just know it's a laughable reason to call someone scum
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IfGodCouldDie
06/17/18 7:27:45 PM
#200:


That's.... hmmm.
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Paratroopa1
06/17/18 7:30:21 PM
#201:


Dude brainbomb is a fucking meme on MU we all make fun of that dude all the time

He was terrible in his champs game
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Meow1000
06/17/18 7:30:47 PM
#202:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
That's.... hmmm.


No one in the game could engage him, he'd just rotate calling random people scum for no reason and ignoring anything anyone said to him about it. I might have hurt his feelings by getting mad at him and telling him to start doing something useful/stop ignoring almost every post directed at him?

Like if that's enough to get me modkilled without even giving me a reason after I already asked to replace out, then their standards are so low they're insane, especially since Fable was being more of a dick to the game than I was most of the time.
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Dels
06/17/18 7:31:16 PM
#203:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Dels posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Start the game obv.

Also I was highly unimpressed by the games I've both been in myself and observed as far as that community is concerned.

If you thought half the players in PW Mafia did "nothing" then you're sure going to think most of the players in the games over there do "nothing".

If I remember correctly Dels got called scum last year just for posting lots.


Well.

I was scum.

So.

Oh. For some reason I thought i remember you were town and getting called scum for high levels of activity.


Championship games are weird - people get really paranoid. There were a few people just saying "One of the active posters must be scum! They just have to be!" It happens a lot every year - people wanna take down the "big threats" to prove how good they are.

I was townread for most of that game until I fucked it up, then the other games I was town and I was universally townread.
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