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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 2:44:35 PM
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https://twitter.com/xboxuk/status/1006605714620665858?s=19

lol sony
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06/12/18 2:45:26 PM
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Get a hobby
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Fucking REKKKT
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AvantgardeAClue
06/12/18 2:46:53 PM
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Sony: yeah well THIS IS FOR THE PLAYERS

*Increases PS Plus by $10*
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voldothegr8
06/12/18 2:49:26 PM
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06/12/18 2:50:38 PM
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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 2:51:06 PM
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Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636
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06/12/18 2:51:30 PM
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UnfairRepresent
06/12/18 2:51:44 PM
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i dont get it
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Weezy_Tha_Don
06/12/18 2:52:22 PM
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some Wendys level trolling
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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 2:52:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
i dont get it

Sony doesn't allow cross platform play, whereas nintendo and microsoft do.
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WhoaLookingCool
06/12/18 2:54:19 PM
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Did they say on the stream that fortnite is crossplay among all platforms minus playstation?
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Polycosm
06/12/18 2:54:46 PM
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Will Elder Scrolls Blades be a PS4 mutually-exclusive?
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UnfairRepresent
06/12/18 2:55:28 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
i dont get it

Sony doesn't allow cross platform play, whereas nintendo and microsoft do.

lol

Sony fucked up
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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 2:56:40 PM
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WhoaLookingCool posted...
Did they say on the stream that fortnite is crossplay among all platforms minus playstation?

Sony has historically shot down every attempt at cross platform play. Hell, one game even enabled it for a few hours until sony shut it down.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/15/15807138/sony-playstation-cross-network-play-xbox-block-response
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/222901/20180313/sony-does-not-want-fortnite-cross-play-between-playstation-4-and-xbox-one-to-happen-heres-why.htm
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NeuralLaxative
06/12/18 2:59:22 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636


Yeah If you read the fortnite user agreement it specifically states some platforms may restrict your account/content, guess they were referring to Sony. Word on the street is no issues with nintendo or Xb1 yet on switch
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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 3:04:17 PM
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NeuralLaxative posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636


Yeah If you read the fortnite user agreement it specifically states some platforms may restrict your account/content, guess they were referring to Sony. Word on the street is no issues with nintendo or Xb1 yet on switch

It's super scummy tbqh. It's one thing to block traffic to xbox users when you're logged on with a playstation device, but this is something entirely more scummy
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Calwings
06/12/18 3:06:57 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

Holy shit. That's so ridiculous.
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Vyrulisse
06/12/18 3:54:57 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

That's next level scummy. Annoying not to have cross play but to actively sabotage people's accounts if they ever used it on PS4 is... wow.
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Blue_Inigo
06/12/18 3:56:12 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

Thats really shitty. Fuck Sony
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Tyranthraxus
06/12/18 4:03:59 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

That's next level scummy. Annoying not to have cross play but to actively sabotage people's accounts if they ever used it on PS4 is... wow.

Yeah.

I mean I wasn't going to play fortnite but now my account is fucked for future games.

I'm going to write them a support ticket and tell them to delete my account.
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ArtVandelay
06/12/18 4:25:24 PM
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Who cares about Fortnite

This bugs me due to no xplay on Rocket League
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pogo_rabid
06/12/18 6:19:09 PM
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up
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Tmk
06/12/18 6:23:34 PM
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Sony really needs to pull the 17 foot long stick up their ass about cross-play out and get with the times.
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Darmik
06/12/18 6:32:28 PM
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#4thePlayers

Pretty sure Paladins is yet another game to support crossplay.
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BLAKUboy
06/12/18 6:35:01 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

Holy shit. That is unspeakably bad.
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Lagfile
06/12/18 6:36:15 PM
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ForestLogic
06/12/18 6:36:46 PM
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Imagine going back to 2008 and telling people "Ten years in the future you'll be able to play online games across platforms, between Xbox, PC, and NINTENDO, but not with Playstation."

People would call you a fucking liar and laugh in your face lol.
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Darmik
06/12/18 6:43:55 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
Imagine going back to 2008 and telling people "Ten years in the future you'll be able to play online games across platforms, between Xbox, PC, and NINTENDO, but not with Playstation."

People would call you a fucking liar and laugh in your face lol.


Imagine telling people in 2012 that the PS4 will never carry over any of your PS Classic purchases or much crossbuy stuff at all.

Even the Vita did this.
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Tmk
06/12/18 6:57:28 PM
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Sony sucks but they have too many exclusives I care about held hostage. Bleh.
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Aloner
06/12/18 7:07:27 PM
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Tmk posted...
Sony really needs to pull the 17 foot long stick up their ass about cross-play out and get with the times.

Microsoft should stop trying to dictate the cross play rules as if they aren't 2nd place this gen. Sony rejected cross play because MS wants to be in charge of the arrangement. Epic has said that they had to cut cross play before because of Microsoft's terms.
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Darmik
06/12/18 7:08:43 PM
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Aloner posted...
Epic has said that they had to cut cross play before because of Microsoft's terms.


Where did they say this?
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Muffinz0rz
06/12/18 7:14:24 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Apparently Sony is blocking people from logging into fortnite on the switch if they played on PS4 at some point too..
https://twitter.com/JUSTINtime4aLAF/status/1006591060984901636

I could see myself caring if it was literally any game other than fortnite

but also that's really bad
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Trigg3rH4ppy
06/12/18 7:19:19 PM
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Aloner posted...
Tmk posted...
Sony really needs to pull the 17 foot long stick up their ass about cross-play out and get with the times.

Microsoft should stop trying to dictate the cross play rules as if they aren't 2nd place this gen. Sony rejected cross play because MS wants to be in charge of the arrangement. Epic has said that they had to cut cross play before because of Microsoft's terms.

See even if your made up story was true, console wars mean absolutely nothing to Microsoft. They have way more money and they're in the business of selling software, the Xbox is just another peripheral to play Microsoft games on other than PC. This has literally been the idea since the original Xbox.
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Aloner
06/12/18 8:04:38 PM
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Darmik posted...
Aloner posted...
Epic has said that they had to cut cross play before because of Microsoft's terms.


Where did they say this?

It used to be in Epic's official Fortnite patch notes (https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/ea-patch-notes-1-4), but the blurb has since been removed. Here's what it used to say:

Per policy discussion with Microsoft, removed ability for PC friends to join players on Xbox One

http://fornite.wikia.com/wiki/EA_PATCH_NOTES_1.4

https://imgur.com/ui293BCr

MS can run guilt trip PR all they want, but they aren't asking for unconditional cross-play. There are apparently policy standards involved that have to be met for them to be satisfied.
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Darmik
06/12/18 8:12:19 PM
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Aloner posted...
Darmik posted...
Aloner posted...
Epic has said that they had to cut cross play before because of Microsoft's terms.


Where did they say this?

It used to be in Epic's official Fortnite patch notes (https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/ea-patch-notes-1-4), but the blurb has since been removed. Here's what it used to say:

Per policy discussion with Microsoft, removed ability for PC friends to join players on Xbox One

http://fornite.wikia.com/wiki/EA_PATCH_NOTES_1.4

https://imgur.com/ui293BCr

MS can run guilt trip PR all they want, but they aren't asking for unconditional cross-play. There are apparently policy standards involved that have to be met for them to be satisfied.


But I'm pretty sure Xbox and PC players can play together now. Are you sure that patch note isn't referring to someone else?

What policy standard are you talking about? PS4 is the only one who won't play with either Xbox One or Switch.
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Aloner
06/12/18 8:19:12 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
See even if your made up story was true,

"Hurr durr fake cuz I said so." Grow up buddy.

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
console wars mean absolutely nothing to Microsoft.

Is that why they're the pioneers of timed exclusives and refused cross-play for the entirety of the previous gen?

It's not Sony who just last year shut down PC cross play for a game until they liked the terms.
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Darmik
06/12/18 8:21:23 PM
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Not only that buy any progression you make in Fortnite PS4 doesn't work on other platforms. This is the only system where this is the case.

The issue is Sony.
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mattnd2007
06/12/18 8:31:00 PM
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Sony really not impressing me with stuff like this. That being said I will buy a PS4 when the ps5 comes out, but won't bother with online with it. Just play catch-up on some of the exclusives that I can't get on the switch like spiderman
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faizan_faizan
06/12/18 8:49:15 PM
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Yea, fuck Sony for this. It's inexcusable.
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Aloner
06/12/18 8:56:50 PM
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Darmik posted...
But I'm pretty sure Xbox and PC players can play together now.

Yes, now. But for a while they couldn't, because of Microsoft. Which proves that they have terms, as Epic said. PS4-PC cross-play however had no problems.

Darmik posted...
Are you sure that patch note isn't referring to someone else?

Dunno who else it could be. MS runs both Xbox and Windows, and Fortnite isn't on Steam, so the only participating companies would be Epic and MS.

Darmik posted...
Not only that buy any progression you make in Fortnite PS4 doesn't work on other platforms. This is the only system where this is the case.

IIRC PS4 has cross-features with PCs and phones. MS and Sony can't come to an agreement, MS and Nintendo did, Sony and Nintendo haven't talked. That doesn't make Sony in the wrong; we don't know what Microsoft's invitation to the other console companies entailed.

Further proof that Microsoft's cross policy isn't innocent:

The game director of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn has explained the title won't be coming to Microsoft consoles as Xbox Live policies don't support cross-play with other platforms.

In an interview with RPGsite, Naoki Yoshida explained that while PS3, PS4 and PC players will be able to play with each other when the game launches on August 27, the fact Xbox users would require their own server turned the team off the idea.

"The policy has not changed on Microsoft's side," he revealed. "The main reason from our side is that I don't want the community to be divided; to be split into two or more. For example, one player might be on the PC version, another might be on the PS4 version, and I'm playing the Xbox version - but we're not able to join the same game servers. That is just... I just don't like the idea. I disagree with it."

https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/09/why-final-fantasy-xiv-isnt-coming-to-xbox-360-or-xbox-one

Game still isn't on Xbox.
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Darmik
06/12/18 9:03:26 PM
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Aloner posted...
Yes, now. But for a while they couldn't, because of Microsoft. Which proves that they have terms, as Epic said. PS4-PC cross-play however had no problems.


So they worked out a temporary issue that was clearly stated in a patch note? Sounds like a good thing to me?

Aloner posted...
Dunno who else it could be. MS runs both Xbox and Windows, and Fortnite isn't on Steam, so the only participating companies would be Epic and MS.


I mean it sounds more like how it handles Epic/Xbox live accounts or something.

Aloner posted...
IIRC PS4 has cross-features with PCs and phones. MS and Sony can't come to an agreement, MS and Nintendo did, Sony and Nintendo haven't talked. That doesn't make Sony in the wrong; we don't know what Microsoft's invitation to the other console companies entailed.


Microsoft has asked Sony to join in plenty of times. Am I really supposed to believe that Microsoft is the difficult one? It's fucking Nintendo. They are way more likely to work with Sony than Microsoft here.

Aloner posted...
Game still isn't on Xbox.


And yet since then we've had;
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/sony-is-the-only-remaining-hurdle-to-cross-platform-play-developers-say/
Now, some major game developers are stressing that any technical hurdles to this cross-platform play have been overcome. Sony's walled-garden policy is the final obstacle to allowing play between Xbox and PlayStation systems, they say. "Right now, we're literally at the point where all we need is the go-ahead on the Sony side and we can, in less than a business day, turn [cross-platform play] on and have it up and working, no problem," Jeremy Dunham, vice president of Rocket League developer Psyonix told IGN in a recent interview. "It'd literally take a few hours to propagate throughout the whole world, so really we're just waiting on the permission to do so... It could be tomorrow, it could be longer than that. We just don't knowwe're anxiously awaiting that, just like the rest of our fans."

Rocket League was one of the first games that announced cross-platform play between the Xbox One and Windows 10 (well before Microsoft's recent Play Anywhere initiative), so it's not that surprising that the title is ready to link in with the PS4 as well. But The Witcher maker CD Projekt says it's also simply awaiting Sony's go-ahead for a cross-platform version of the upcoming Gwent card game.

"We are keeping our fingers crossed for Rocket League paving the way," CD Projekt CEO Marcin Iwiski said in a statement issued to IGN. "Our upcoming Gwent: The Witcher Card Game will launch in closed beta for PC and Xbox One later this year, and Microsoft already confirmed Gwent's cross-play feature not only between Xbox One and PC, but also other consoles if they allow it. We also do have a technical solution in place for PS4 and would love to add Sonys platform to cross-play at the start of open beta. All we need is a green light from Sony."


https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch

For whatever reason Sony isn't bothered by Square Enix MMO's and the odd PC crossplay title.

But they remain the only console developer who hasn't had any crossplay with a rival console platform. So clearly the issue isn't Microsoft.
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Prestoff
06/12/18 9:05:54 PM
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Well played
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pogo_rabid
06/13/18 9:44:57 PM
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Go go anti consumer practices!
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ForestLogic
06/13/18 11:02:37 PM
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Imagine defending a company blatantly blocking you from trying to play a game on one of their competitor's systems.

Imagine being that big of a fucking fanboy.
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Darmik
06/13/18 11:03:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/1006645221424271360

Today we revealed another big console exclusive: your Fortnite account.

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Questionmarktarius
06/13/18 11:06:05 PM
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Were Microsoft or Sony to overtly team up with Nintendo, the other would be chased out of the videogame industry immediately.
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Zack_Attackv1
06/13/18 11:11:22 PM
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