Poll of the Day > does anyone here still use a house phone?

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well i live with my mom and we still have a house phone. most of the calls we get are spam, but i find some use in it. my smart phone uses phone minutes, which i like because i make calls maybe 5 times a month, maybe using 15 minutes. if i need a lengthy chat i simply use the house phone and thus talking is free.

but if i never had a house phone i wouldnt be too upset.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

DPsx7 posted...

If you're paying $100-$200 a month for these silly little things then my estimates are in the ballpark. The money wasted on a toy could be used for car insurance, saved for later, invested, or a hell of a lot of games.

They aren't, the one I have now and got over a year ago, cost around 100 and my package costs me 5 a month.

Maybe over there it's a little different. I'm in the US and contracts/plans are required and obnoxious. On the plus side with the money saved I got a nice drone and a PSVR. Way better choices if you ask me. If you think about it a phone is just a collection of devices that aren't as good as the separate units I already have.

LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

No such thing as a 'cheap' plan. Even if the monthly rate is lower than another company you can be sure a stream of fees and hidden charges will follow.

Yes there are. For a while, I had a $60 unlimited plan. The only reason that changed was because I added people tot he plan. And someone even mentioned have a $30 monthly plan. And a 5 one, too...

DPsx7 posted...

Although phones can perform a lot of tasks they don't perform any specific task that well.

Which tasks are they doing bad at, though?

DPsx7 posted...

I'm generalizing for the majority of people with one. They are ignorant or lazy. Obviously there are a few cases, military or first responders, where it can be handy.

Yeah. But there are other jobs that can benefit from it, though. I can say all jobs can, but a lot could. I just stated some for the military since that's something I know. Sure, some people are lazy and maybe they don't need a phone. But again, that's based on what they do in their life. If they are always out running errands, or just have a very busy life, then phones can help, too.

$60 is a lot for just a phone. I mean I don't even like paying for PS4 online unless I find a sale. I try to double dip when possible by getting PSN credit for 10% off when stores offer it, then buy Plus online when Sony has a 'get money back' event.

Everything. They aren't as good as an actual GPS or digital camera. There's no contest when it comes to games. Handhelds destroy a phone thanks to a thing called 'buttons'. Calls are calls, that's a draw. What else would you do with a phone?

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?
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wwinterj25 posted...

NightMareBunny posted...

if someone goes to the store and you just forgot to tell them "oh crap we need eggs" tough cookies you can't just call them now

Again this doesn't apply to you. Still folk who go food shopping often take a list. If they forget to add anything to the list then they go without until the next trip to the store. It's like you don't understand that people have lived life long before mobiles became a thing. Does mobile phones make life more easy? Sure it does as does most tech but making it out it's a must is simply wrong.

It's just further proof that NMB never leaves his house. He never even goes shopping since he doesn't know what a grocery list is. He makes his poor disabled mother do all the shopping. If she forgets the eggs, he probably punches her out like he said in the other thread where he wished he could punch her out.

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.
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DPsx7 posted...

SirPikachu posted...

Good lord, I cannot fathom why someone would have one as their only phone still; that is outright bonkers. It's not like it's any cheaper than even a lot of unlimited talk plans WITH DATA, and of course you're screwed into having to ask strangers for help if you wanna make a call anywhere. And then been probably the only person that any of your acquaintances know that can't be easily reached when not at home has to be a huge burden.

I just don't understand. We had to have a line for a while when my mom had this heart monitor which had to use a phone line to send the data it recorded to the doctor, but we never plugged in the phone because who in their right mind would get up and go to the living room just to make a call when you can reach into your pocket. and who would call the general house phone instead of the specific person you are trying to reach?

The only reasons I could ever see is you have to have it for some odd reason. But having one as opposed to a half decent cell phone plan is crazy. And for emergencies, it can still call 911 if it's plugged in and not be payed for, any other emergencies could be handled many other ways.

It's a lot cheaper. Landlines are usually included with cable/internet packages. A small additional fee. A cell on the other hand costs hundreds up front and hundreds each month. We're talking $1000-$2000 a year. No amount of convenience is worth that much. Besides, the caller ID shows up on the TV (if it's on) so it's not like I need to rush to the phone all the time. I think anyone who assumes cells are a necessity are relatively insane.

They aren't even good for games if you own a 3DS and Vita. Although phones can perform a lot of tasks they don't perform any specific task that well.

I can easily find a smartphone for $20 and get a $20 prepaid plan tho. Sure it's not very good, but it beats the hell out of a house phone
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Jen0125 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.

Meh. I don't like falling for money bleeding scams is all. Millions of other people don't have one either. The idea that everyone has one is part of the conditioning they give young people to drum up business.

SirPikachu posted...

I can easily find a smartphone for $20 and get a $20 prepaid plan tho. Sure it's not very good, but it beats the hell out of a house phone

Not that I'm interested but I call your bluff. Can't even get a flip phone for $20.

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.

Meh. I don't like falling for money bleeding scams is all. Millions of other people don't have one either. The idea that everyone has one is part of the conditioning they give young people to drum up business.

Lol now that just sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everything a house phone can do, a cell phone can do much better and much more conviently. It's the future, get with it lol. I wouldn't be that surprised if house phone just plain didn't exist except for businesses in a few years

Cellphones are the future, and have been for almost 2 friggin decades now. Just like the car replaced the horse, the cell phone is going to replace the house phone
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DPsx7 posted...

SirPikachu posted...

I can easily find a smartphone for $20 and get a $20 prepaid plan tho. Sure it's not very good, but it beats the hell out of a house phone

Not that I'm interested but I call your bluff. Can't even get a flip phone for $20.

I've literally seen ZTE smartphones for $20. They're Chinese, cheap, and shit, but they work.

My first smartphone was $40 bucks, one after that was $80. They were both pretty damn good
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DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.

Meh. I don't like falling for money bleeding scams is all. Millions of other people don't have one either. The idea that everyone has one is part of the conditioning they give young people to drum up business.

"People like things I don't like. :("
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I have an Ooma VOIP line and an Echo Connect so I can make phone calls using any of the Amazon Echos in my house, garage or barn. I've also got a fax machine hooked up. Costs just $4 per month in taxes.

DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

No such thing as a 'cheap' plan. Even if the monthly rate is lower than another company you can be sure a stream of fees and hidden charges will follow.

Yes there are. For a while, I had a $60 unlimited plan. The only reason that changed was because I added people tot he plan. And someone even mentioned have a $30 monthly plan. And a 5 one, too...

DPsx7 posted...

Although phones can perform a lot of tasks they don't perform any specific task that well.

Which tasks are they doing bad at, though?

DPsx7 posted...

I'm generalizing for the majority of people with one. They are ignorant or lazy. Obviously there are a few cases, military or first responders, where it can be handy.

Yeah. But there are other jobs that can benefit from it, though. I can say all jobs can, but a lot could. I just stated some for the military since that's something I know. Sure, some people are lazy and maybe they don't need a phone. But again, that's based on what they do in their life. If they are always out running errands, or just have a very busy life, then phones can help, too.

$60 is a lot for just a phone. I mean I don't even like paying for PS4 online unless I find a sale. I try to double dip when possible by getting PSN credit for 10% off when stores offer it, then buy Plus online when Sony has a 'get money back' event.

Everything. They aren't as good as an actual GPS or digital camera. There's no contest when it comes to games. Handhelds destroy a phone thanks to a thing called 'buttons'. Calls are calls, that's a draw. What else would you do with a phone?

Sure. Handhelds ARE better for games, but the phone does have some games that handhelds don't have. Whether you like them or not is a different story. But some cameras are better. But not all. Plus, convenience. As for GPS, it works better than some of the ones I have had in the past. Not to mention, it constantly updates. Even in real time. And you can always get other GPS apps that have other functions, too. Like if there was an accident recently or something. Those are pretty good, too. Not only that, but it can remember your routes. Mine tells me how long to get to work and home everyday. And on Sunday, it tells me how long until I get to where I go to play Shadowrun. Which can help if I go somewhere unfamiliar to get food to bring to the game on my turn. So, I believe that a win for cell phone. And smartphones have other capabilities. Again, everyone may not use them, but lots of people do. Having a calculator or bring able to take notes even if you can't find a pen or paper. Having you address and phonebook with all your numbers in it. Or being able to get someone's number instantly added to you contacts. Looking up the news, or just bullshitting on here...
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SirPikachu posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.

Meh. I don't like falling for money bleeding scams is all. Millions of other people don't have one either. The idea that everyone has one is part of the conditioning they give young people to drum up business.

Lol now that just sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everything a house phone can do, a cell phone can do much better and much more conviently. It's the future, get with it lol. I wouldn't be that surprised if house phone just plain didn't exist except for businesses in a few years

Cellphones are the future, and have been for almost 2 friggin decades now. Just like the car replaced the horse, the cell phone is going to replace the house phone

You're entitled to be 100% wrong, so ok. We've already covered that a cell will always perform its features worse than a dedicated product. And last I checked horses are still a thing, so that argument fails too.

On another note, these phones WILL make you stupid. Have you seen anyone on a cell phone do something intelligent? Like not walk into traffic? The word you wanted is 'conveniently' and since 'house phones' will never exist in a business you probably meant a land line. I don't think you're going to win this one...

if you refuse to get a smartphone eventually you'll be unable to call anyone at all...as stated house phones will probably be obsolete in the near future and rendered unusable
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DPsx7 posted...

SirPikachu posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Jen0125 posted...

Gosh how old is this dpsx7 dude? 75?

Nah. Let's say the 18-40 demo. Follow up question - why does it matter? My parents only have flip phones.

You sound like a crotchety old man.

Meh. I don't like falling for money bleeding scams is all. Millions of other people don't have one either. The idea that everyone has one is part of the conditioning they give young people to drum up business.

Lol now that just sounds like a conspiracy theory. Everything a house phone can do, a cell phone can do much better and much more conviently. It's the future, get with it lol. I wouldn't be that surprised if house phone just plain didn't exist except for businesses in a few years

Cellphones are the future, and have been for almost 2 friggin decades now. Just like the car replaced the horse, the cell phone is going to replace the house phone

You're entitled to be 100% wrong, so ok. We've already covered that a cell will always perform its features worse than a dedicated product. And last I checked horses are still a thing, so that argument fails too.

On another note, these phones WILL make you stupid. Have you seen anyone on a cell phone do something intelligent? Like not walk into traffic? The word you wanted is 'conveniently' and since 'house phones' will never exist in a business you probably meant a land line. I don't think you're going to win this one...

I don't think we covered that a cell will always perform it's features worse than a dedicated product. You're one of the few who think that. But it doesn't mean you're right.
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LinkPizza posted...

Sure. Handhelds ARE better for games, but the phone does have some games that handhelds don't have. Whether you like them or not is a different story. But some cameras are better. But not all. Plus, convenience. As for GPS, it works better than some of the ones I have had in the past. Not to mention, it constantly updates. Even in real time. And you can always get other GPS apps that have other functions, too. Like if there was an accident recently or something. Those are pretty good, too. Not only that, but it can remember your routes. Mine tells me how long to get to work and home everyday. And on Sunday, it tells me how long until I get to where I go to play Shadowrun. Which can help if I go somewhere unfamiliar to get food to bring to the game on my turn. So, I believe that a win for cell phone. And smartphones have other capabilities. Again, everyone may not use them, but lots of people do. Having a calculator or bring able to take notes even if you can't find a pen or paper. Having you address and phonebook with all your numbers in it. Or being able to get someone's number instantly added to you contacts. Looking up the news, or just bullshitting on here...

Uh, seriously? There isn't anything worth playing on a phone that isn't on a handheld. Phone games are too disposable or too 'pay to win'. Any basic camera will do a better job. Don't tell me convenience is worth $100 a month. I have a Garmin that does all that. Granted it only gets used a few times a year if I go on a trip.

How often do you really need a calculator? Taking notes maybe but again, $100 a month. I hate the news (none of it applies to me so why care about it). In the end I'm not seeing this win for phones. I bet if phone owners really sat to think about why they have these and how much money is being wasted, they'd reconsider. I mean it's not like I'm wrong here. Admit it, you got a phone to act cool in front of your friends rather than having a need for it. Right?

I doubt many would consider not having a smartphone considering without one you are just tempting fate to screw you over and leave you with no way to call for help cause "uh I only expect to be called at home"

you really are asking for trouble in this day and age if you go around without a smartphone
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LinkPizza posted...

I don't think we covered that a cell will always perform it's features worse than a dedicated product. You're one of the few who think that. But it doesn't mean you're right.

We did a page or two ago. A phone won't take good pictures, isn't as reliable as a GPS, and without a doubt cannot compare to a handheld gaming system. The results might be ok enough for you but you can't sit there with a straight face and say they're better. Any device that tries to do it all ends up doing everything half-assed. That's just how it is. Sacrifices have to be made in order for a phone to replace all the things they claim to.

Few? There are tons of people out there without one. I know a couple myself and no they aren't all elderly.

DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Sure. Handhelds ARE better for games, but the phone does have some games that handhelds don't have. Whether you like them or not is a different story. But some cameras are better. But not all. Plus, convenience. As for GPS, it works better than some of the ones I have had in the past. Not to mention, it constantly updates. Even in real time. And you can always get other GPS apps that have other functions, too. Like if there was an accident recently or something. Those are pretty good, too. Not only that, but it can remember your routes. Mine tells me how long to get to work and home everyday. And on Sunday, it tells me how long until I get to where I go to play Shadowrun. Which can help if I go somewhere unfamiliar to get food to bring to the game on my turn. So, I believe that a win for cell phone. And smartphones have other capabilities. Again, everyone may not use them, but lots of people do. Having a calculator or bring able to take notes even if you can't find a pen or paper. Having you address and phonebook with all your numbers in it. Or being able to get someone's number instantly added to you contacts. Looking up the news, or just bullshitting on here...

Uh, seriously? There isn't anything worth playing on a phone that isn't on a handheld. Phone games are too disposable or too 'pay to win'. Any basic camera will do a better job. Don't tell me convenience is worth $100 a month. I have a Garmin that does all that. Granted it only gets used a few times a year if I go on a trip.

How often do you really need a calculator? Taking notes maybe but again, $100 a month. I hate the news (none of it applies to me so why care about it). In the end I'm not seeing this win for phones. I bet if phone owners really sat to think about why they have these and how much money is being wasted, they'd reconsider. I mean it's not like I'm wrong here. Admit it, you got a phone to act cool in front of your friends rather than having a need for it. Right?

Just because you don't think they're worth playing doesn't mean others don't like it. People like different things. And even for some games that are on both a phone and laptop, playing on a phone while waiting is very different from pulling out a laptop while waiting. depending on where you're waiting or what you're waiting for. Personally, I use a calculator every day. Because as I said before, people live different lives and need certain things more than others. I keep saying that. Mainly because it's true. And a basic camera is about the same as a phone. The convenience is great, though. Being able to instantly send a picture to someone or share it in whatever way you like it much better. Not to mention you can still get it printed out like a normal camera. And maybe garmin does do that, but not all of them. My garmin had to connect to my computer to update IIRC. I don't know if some of the newer ones were better. But I had mine after smartphones were a thing and smartphones always seemed to be better...
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NightMareBunny posted...

I doubt many would consider not having a smartphone considering without one you are just tempting fate to screw you over and leave you with no way to call for help cause "uh I only expect to be called at home"

you really are asking for trouble in this day and age if you go around without a smartphone

Sheeze. What, do you work in a jungle or desert? Where could you possibly be that would leave you unable to get help? Besides, we already said that any junker phone doesn't need to be activated to dial 911.

Try leaving the phone at home for a day or two. You don't need it as much as you think you do. Everyone got by without them before and many still get by today.

DPsx7 posted...

NightMareBunny posted...

I doubt many would consider not having a smartphone considering without one you are just tempting fate to screw you over and leave you with no way to call for help cause "uh I only expect to be called at home"

you really are asking for trouble in this day and age if you go around without a smartphone

Sheeze. What, do you work in a jungle or desert? Where could you possibly be that would leave you unable to get help? Besides, we already said that any junker phone doesn't need to be activated to dial 911.

Try leaving the phone at home for a day or two. You don't need it as much as you think you do. Everyone got by without them before and many still get by today.

Sure. We can still get by. But why make everything harder on ourselves. We advance technology to make life easier. We can get by with stoves, but we still use them. We can get by without cars, but we still use them. We can get by without a lot of things, but we still use those things to make life easier...
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Not quite the same point. I'm saying why pay more for something with less functionality? You probably have all that other stuff to make life easier.

DPsx7 posted...

Not quite the same point. I'm saying why pay more for something with less functionality? You probably have all that other stuff to make life easier.

Wouldn't that come down to what you pay? You can get smartphones very cheap. They aren't always the newest one. But even if you bought one when it was new, but kept it for years, it's not a bad investment. And also, that's IF it actually has less functionality? The camera's better than most basic cameras. And for a camera that's better, it could cost more than a phone in some cases, as an example. I could buy a camera, and a GPS, and a calculator, and an address book, and scrap paper, and pencils, etc... And carry them all around in a backpack. Or buy a smart phone and just carry that. Not to mention, it's probably cheaper than buying all that stuff separately. And buy all that stuff, I mean buying something that does each of the multiple things a smart phone can do...
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DPsx7 posted...

NightMareBunny posted...

I doubt many would consider not having a smartphone considering without one you are just tempting fate to screw you over and leave you with no way to call for help cause "uh I only expect to be called at home"

you really are asking for trouble in this day and age if you go around without a smartphone

Sheeze. What, do you work in a jungle or desert?

NMB doesn't work anywhere. He's 28 and never had a job in his entire life. lol

I find it hilarious that NMB, who is a known hermit and rarely if ever leaves his house, is trying to lecture us on the importance of smartphones in daily life.

Yes I do. It's kinda like a package. The Internet line and router requires a landline number to be installed as well; required by the service provider. So eh.
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DPsx7 posted...

Not quite the same point. I'm saying why pay more for something with less functionality? You probably have all that other stuff to make life easier.

How the hell does a cell phone have less functionality? You keep saying that a hpuse phone, or land line, whatever, performs better, but you won't say how. In my house, I can call anyone and the call comes through just fine. Then I can take that call pretty much anywhere except the middle of nowhere without losing it, unlike a house phone. Tell me how a cellphone is not objectively better than a house phone when it comes to calls, because I just do not see it.

And then it has a decent camera, and my GPS always works wonders. And my family only pays a little over 100 for 3 phones. I'm thinking about just going to straight talk and getting unlimited call l, text, and data for just 55 a month.

Also, who want to buy and carry around a camera, a GPS, and their 3DS everywhere all the time, when you can get a decent camera, a very good GPS and a decent game device all in your pocket, than can also call people just about no matter where you are, espicially when you can get all of that easily for under $100 start fee and under $50 monthly charge.

It's just kind of ignorant to not have a smartphone by choice. You're just putting a handicap on yourself for no reason. They're so easily available, just about anyone in a first world country should be able to get one

And again with the horse analogy, since you didn't get it I guess, people used to just ride horse drawn buggies everywhere. Then the car was invented. Now no one rides horse drawn buggies except for fun. You could still get around in one, but you wouldn't because a car is much more convenient. Just like a cell phone compared to a house phone. Why would you want a house phone when a cell phone does everything better? Why would you want a horse drawn buggy when a car does everything better?
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SirPikachu posted...

because I just do not see it.

That's probably because in your post it sounds like you think everyone lives in a place where they can get perfect cell phone connection. I mean I live in the US of A and I can drive 20 minutes from home, to a town that's bigger than the one I live in and if I go in a building I get 1 or no bars. But in those same buildings, landlines work perfectly fine.
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he has slowly backpedaled his claims on how much a cell phone costs a month. initially he said 200-300, now it's down to 100 a month.

still way overestimating the cost, but getting closer...
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That we do. We even used to have a 'party line' back in the 80's or so when we still had a rotary phone. Only problem with that was that the older lady who we shared the line with was always hogging it.
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SirPikachu posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Not quite the same point. I'm saying why pay more for something with less functionality? You probably have all that other stuff to make life easier.

How the hell does a cell phone have less functionality? You keep saying that a hpuse phone, or land line, whatever, performs better, but you won't say how. In my house, I can call anyone and the call comes through just fine. Then I can take that call pretty much anywhere except the middle of nowhere without losing it, unlike a house phone. Tell me how a cellphone is not objectively better than a house phone when it comes to calls, because I just do not see it.

And then it has a decent camera, and my GPS always works wonders. And my family only pays a little over 100 for 3 phones. I'm thinking about just going to straight talk and getting unlimited call l, text, and data for just 55 a month.

Also, who want to buy and carry around a camera, a GPS, and their 3DS everywhere all the time, when you can get a decent camera, a very good GPS and a decent game device all in your pocket, than can also call people just about no matter where you are, espicially when you can get all of that easily for under $100 start fee and under $50 monthly charge.

It's just kind of ignorant to not have a smartphone by choice. You're just putting a handicap on yourself for no reason. They're so easily available, just about anyone in a first world country should be able to get one

And again with the horse analogy, since you didn't get it I guess, people used to just ride horse drawn buggies everywhere. Then the car was invented. Now no one rides horse drawn buggies except for fun. You could still get around in one, but you wouldn't because a car is much more convenient. Just like a cell phone compared to a house phone. Why would you want a house phone when a cell phone does everything better? Why would you want a horse drawn buggy when a car does everything better?

You're mixing up multiple arguments. A call is a call so it's a draw between landlines and cells. The functionality part was about all the side features and how any device trying to do everything will do nothing well. And when you consider you're paying monthly, the phone will be way more expensive in the long run.

I don't carry them every day so why would anyone else? When I do need them they're easily packed into a bag. In terms of library it's hardly worth calling a phone a game system. In fact I wouldn't. I'd gladly rather been seen in public with a 3DS or Vita over something embarrassing on a phone. You keep making these claims on price that aren't true.

No I do get it. When horses were the only choice then yeah it's different. Having new options doesn't mean the previous ones are gone because maybe some people don't want the mess and cost of a car (gas, insurance, repairs). I still haven't seen a valid reason why a cell is better than a landline. You keep saying so to rationalize your purchase but I think we both know that's not the case.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

he has slowly backpedaled his claims on how much a cell phone costs a month. initially he said 200-300, now it's down to 100 a month.

still way overestimating the cost, but getting closer...

Nah, I originally said $100-$200 a month and just use $100 to simplify things. The cost and fees hasn't changed. We're arguing the basic models so it doesn't make sense to discuss the higher end price for the fancy crap.

i pay 20 a month for my plan
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DPsx7 posted...

SirPikachu posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Not quite the same point. I'm saying why pay more for something with less functionality? You probably have all that other stuff to make life easier.

How the hell does a cell phone have less functionality? You keep saying that a hpuse phone, or land line, whatever, performs better, but you won't say how. In my house, I can call anyone and the call comes through just fine. Then I can take that call pretty much anywhere except the middle of nowhere without losing it, unlike a house phone. Tell me how a cellphone is not objectively better than a house phone when it comes to calls, because I just do not see it.

And then it has a decent camera, and my GPS always works wonders. And my family only pays a little over 100 for 3 phones. I'm thinking about just going to straight talk and getting unlimited call l, text, and data for just 55 a month.

Also, who want to buy and carry around a camera, a GPS, and their 3DS everywhere all the time, when you can get a decent camera, a very good GPS and a decent game device all in your pocket, than can also call people just about no matter where you are, espicially when you can get all of that easily for under $100 start fee and under $50 monthly charge.

It's just kind of ignorant to not have a smartphone by choice. You're just putting a handicap on yourself for no reason. They're so easily available, just about anyone in a first world country should be able to get one

And again with the horse analogy, since you didn't get it I guess, people used to just ride horse drawn buggies everywhere. Then the car was invented. Now no one rides horse drawn buggies except for fun. You could still get around in one, but you wouldn't because a car is much more convenient. Just like a cell phone compared to a house phone. Why would you want a house phone when a cell phone does everything better? Why would you want a horse drawn buggy when a car does everything better?

You're mixing up multiple arguments. A call is a call so it's a draw between landlines and cells. The functionality part was about all the side features and how any device trying to do everything will do nothing well. And when you consider you're paying monthly, the phone will be way more expensive in the long run.

I don't carry them every day so why would anyone else? When I do need them they're easily packed into a bag. In terms of library it's hardly worth calling a phone a game system. In fact I wouldn't. I'd gladly rather been seen in public with a 3DS or Vita over something embarrassing on a phone. You keep making these claims on price that aren't true.

No I do get it. When horses were the only choice then yeah it's different. Having new options doesn't mean the previous ones are gone because maybe some people don't want the mess and cost of a car (gas, insurance, repairs). I still haven't seen a valid reason why a cell is better than a landline. You keep saying so to rationalize your purchase but I think we both know that's not the case.

Lol, you keep saying my prices aren't true, why don't you look it up? You can go to Walmart right now and see straight talk plans for like 30, 45, 55 and other for even even cheaper. Right here in Walmart. And then you can look right next to those and find a phone for like $40. All you have to do is walk to the back of Walmart where they display the phones and phone plans and see for yourself.

I've never used a real camera even since I've had a cellphone. It gets the job done good enough for anything I need cuz I'm not a professional photographer. I've never used a GPS ever since I got a phone capable of having Google maps cuz it's much better and easier to use that than to have to always have that GPS unit hiding somewhere in the car.

And then I'm not taking my 3DS everywhere cuz I don't wanna drop or lose it. I can keep myself entertained anywhere with my phone by hopping g on Facebook or something if I don't wanna play a game
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I haven't had a house phone since 2004. I honestly thought I was one of the LAST people to cut the cord...
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DPsx7 posted...

A call is a call so it's a draw between landlines and cells.

Except for you can take a call on a cell phone pretty much anywhere. Which I would say makes it better.

DPsx7 posted...

I don't carry them every day so why would anyone else?

Because everyone is different and need different things to get through the day.

DPsx7 posted...

In terms of library it's hardly worth calling a phone a game system. In fact I wouldn't. I'd gladly rather been seen in public with a 3DS or Vita over something embarrassing on a phone.

Not the nest library. But there are fun games. You act like nobody like phone games when lots of people play them.

DPsx7 posted...

You keep making these claims on price that aren't true.

I don't even know why you're saying this. You can get pretty cheap plans...

DPsx7 posted...

You keep saying so to rationalize your purchase but I think we both know that's not the case.

We keep saying so because a cell phone is better. Depending on lifestyle choices, landlines are still good to have for some people, but not many. A cell phone is good for pretty much anyone. Especially if that person leaves the house.
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Dpsx7 it seems more like you're trying to rationalize why you don't have a phone outside a landline and instead decide to purchase hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of other electronics instead.
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SirPikachu posted...

Lol, you keep saying my prices aren't true, why don't you look it up? You can go to Walmart right now and see straight talk plans for like 30, 45, 55 and other for even even cheaper. Right here in Walmart. And then you can look right next to those and find a phone for like $40. All you have to do is walk to the back of Walmart where they display the phones and phone plans and see for yourself.

I've never used a real camera even since I've had a cellphone. It gets the job done good enough for anything I need cuz I'm not a professional photographer. I've never used a GPS ever since I got a phone capable of having Google maps cuz it's much better and easier to use that than to have to always have that GPS unit hiding somewhere in the car.

And then I'm not taking my 3DS everywhere cuz I don't wanna drop or lose it. I can keep myself entertained anywhere with my phone by hopping g on Facebook or something if I don't wanna play a game

Oh boy now we're using Walmart as proof. Between the cost of the phone and the ongoing plan you're still in for $70 or more per month.

I'm not a pro either. I bought a decent point and shoot just a few years ago that does a good job. Takes video, has some special modes I don't really use, has flash and a timer... My GPS gives turn by turn directions and as I stated earlier it only goes in the car when I'm out of town. No need to carry it every day like you would with a cell phone.

So you'd rather drop and lose the phone instead? That's a lame excuse.

LinkPizza posted...

DPsx7 posted...

A call is a call so it's a draw between landlines and cells.

Except for you can take a call on a cell phone pretty much anywhere. Which I would say makes it better.

DPsx7 posted...

I don't carry them every day so why would anyone else?

Because everyone is different and need different things to get through the day.

DPsx7 posted...

In terms of library it's hardly worth calling a phone a game system. In fact I wouldn't. I'd gladly rather been seen in public with a 3DS or Vita over something embarrassing on a phone.

Not the nest library. But there are fun games. You act like nobody like phone games when lots of people play them.

DPsx7 posted...

You keep making these claims on price that aren't true.

I don't even know why you're saying this. You can get pretty cheap plans...

DPsx7 posted...

You keep saying so to rationalize your purchase but I think we both know that's not the case.

We keep saying so because a cell phone is better. Depending on lifestyle choices, landlines are still good to have for some people, but not many. A cell phone is good for pretty much anyone. Especially if that person leaves the house.

Mm hmm. So how many times have you decided to take a call then immediately chose to leave the house? One would think if you're going to take the time to call you'll probably remain in approximately the same place. Calling from the car is illegal in some states so don't gimme any smartass answers. Ha.

While true it's highly unlikely that most people with phones NEED all that. To the guy in the military I talked with before, yeah sure. On the flip side tell me why every damn kid in a school needs one.

I could discuss this in depth if we wanted to go there but to keep it short phone games are a joke. Stuff you play for 2 days then throw away for something else is the worst kind of content. And please don't tell me you're the kind of person who would support microtransactions. Ugh.

Pretty cheap is vague. I mean there's the severe low end that's barely functional and it goes up from there. Or it gets subsidized by advertising. Cheaper entry fees are just to get you in the door. When the bill comes with all its assorted fees and charges, that's when my estimate of $100 a month counts for something.

I leave the house when necessary. Phone at home, phone at work. If I'm shopping somewhere I'm quite certain they have a phone for emergencies. A cell only makes sense if you're stuck in rural country.

In the end, it comes down to if you need it and its function enough to justify having it. For you, you say no. But for most people that have cell phones, they say yes. Some people use the GPS all the time. Or make most of their calls while out and about. And use their phone and all the random apps. So yes, its worth it for them. Especially since all they have to buy is the phone and not a bunch of other things that a phone can also do...
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Jen0125 posted...

Dpsx7 it seems more like you're trying to rationalize why you don't have a phone outside a landline and instead decide to purchase hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of other electronics instead.

There's nothing to rationalize here, I feel I explained it well enough. If I'm going to spend money there should be a reason. I'm not a rich or fancy person. The only thing a phone will give me that I don't already have is a new monthly bill. Right? The price of convenience has its limits.

LinkPizza posted...

In the end, it comes down to if you need it and its function enough to justify having it. For you, you say no. But for most people that have cell phones, they say yes. Some people use the GPS all the time. Or make most of their calls while out and about. And use their phone and all the random apps. So yes, its worth it for them. Especially since all they have to buy is the phone and not a bunch of other things that a phone can also do...

Yeah but the price of those few things (camera, GPS, calculator) still don't add up to the cost of a phone. You know I'm not making things up here.

We've covered a lot of views huh? Started with landlines still serving a purpose, moved to how phones almost don't count as gaming devices, to the costs associated with these, to convenience... Guess that's what happens when you talk to 20 people at the same time.

DPsx7 posted...

Mm hmm. So how many times have you decided to take a call then immediately chose to leave the house? One would think if you're going to take the time to call you'll probably remain in approximately the same place. Calling from the car is illegal in some states so don't gimme any smartass answers. Ha.

While true it's highly unlikely that most people with phones NEED all that. To the guy in the military I talked with before, yeah sure. On the flip side tell me why every damn kid in a school needs one.

I could discuss this in depth if we wanted to go there but to keep it short phone games are a joke. Stuff you play for 2 days then throw away for something else is the worst kind of content. And please don't tell me you're the kind of person who would support microtransactions. Ugh.

Pretty cheap is vague. I mean there's the severe low end that's barely functional and it goes up from there. Or it gets subsidized by advertising. Cheaper entry fees are just to get you in the door. When the bill comes with all its assorted fees and charges, that's when my estimate of $100 a month counts for something.

I leave the house when necessary. Phone at home, phone at work. If I'm shopping somewhere I'm quite certain they have a phone for emergencies. A cell only makes sense if you're stuck in rural country.

Actually, pretty often. Because I have a cell phone, I can do that. And my car connects to my cars Bluetooth. So, I do make calls from my car.

Im the one that was in the military. And I wouldnt say every kid needs a real cell phone. But it could be good to give them those kid cell phones that can call like 4 people or whatever. But they still should have that for emergencies...

I dont support micro-transactions, but Im also not against certain games that do that. But I also play games where that isnt needed. Again, just because you dont like any phone games doesnt mean other dont...

Maybe some are expensive. But some arent. Its depends on a lot of stuff. I have a bill that $60 for unlimited everything. Which almost meant I could watch whatever I wanted all night on whatever and not have to watery about data. Or minutes when I call or text. And I text my friends and family a lot. So, its depends on what you need...

Or when you are stuck somewhere, like in the middle of the night. Or somewhere where people are jerks and wont let you use their phone. I would rather have a phone if something like that happens. It also allows to me to make sure of stuff. Like if I. Wes to check my bank account or something...
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DPsx7 posted...

LinkPizza posted...

In the end, it comes down to if you need it and its function enough to justify having it. For you, you say no. But for most people that have cell phones, they say yes. Some people use the GPS all the time. Or make most of their calls while out and about. And use their phone and all the random apps. So yes, its worth it for them. Especially since all they have to buy is the phone and not a bunch of other things that a phone can also do...

Yeah but the price of those few things (camera, GPS, calculator) still don't add up to the cost of a phone. You know I'm not making things up here.

We've covered a lot of views huh? Started with landlines still serving a purpose, moved to how phones almost don't count as gaming devices, to the costs associated with these, to convenience... Guess that's what happens when you talk to 20 people at the same time.

That depends on where you buy the phone. And the price of those other things. Because Idk about you and where you live. But for me, the price of all those things would cost more than the phone outright. Sure, they dont usually have a monthly bill. But a small bill for all those all the time, and a way to call, text, FaceTime, and use data, all unlimited, is fine. Depending on whats small for you...
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DPsx7 posted...

SirPikachu posted...

Lol, you keep saying my prices aren't true, why don't you look it up? You can go to Walmart right now and see straight talk plans for like 30, 45, 55 and other for even even cheaper. Right here in Walmart. And then you can look right next to those and find a phone for like $40. All you have to do is walk to the back of Walmart where they display the phones and phone plans and see for yourself.

I've never used a real camera even since I've had a cellphone. It gets the job done good enough for anything I need cuz I'm not a professional photographer. I've never used a GPS ever since I got a phone capable of having Google maps cuz it's much better and easier to use that than to have to always have that GPS unit hiding somewhere in the car.

And then I'm not taking my 3DS everywhere cuz I don't wanna drop or lose it. I can keep myself entertained anywhere with my phone by hopping g on Facebook or something if I don't wanna play a game

Oh boy now we're using Walmart as proof. Between the cost of the phone and the ongoing plan you're still in for $70 or more per month.

I'm not a pro either. I bought a decent point and shoot just a few years ago that does a good job. Takes video, has some special modes I don't really use, has flash and a timer... My GPS gives turn by turn directions and as I stated earlier it only goes in the car when I'm out of town. No need to carry it every day like you would with a cell phone.

So you'd rather drop and lose the phone instead? That's a lame excuse.

What, how is it $70 a month? And what do you mean laughing at Walmart is proof, you kept being obstinate that I was lying about prices, I just said you can walk into Walmart and see for yourself how cheap and easy it is. Then you pay the entry rate of $40, and then only $30 a month, and that's for an actually pretty good plan with straight talk.

And then when you have a cell phone, you always have a camera in your pocket. Always. So if you need to take a picture you don't have to go back to your car or even all the way to your house to get a camera, it's just in your pocket. And it does all of the things you listed. And I don't know ow what you're saying about the GPS, Google maps is one the best GPS services in existence, if not THE best. Then you don't have to have a separate device in your car, and you always have it, so if your boss says hey we need you to go pick up an order from this address, and you don't know where it is, you can easily put in your phone and go instead of having to memorize or print out directions or swing by your house to get the GPS. And I'm more likely to drop or lose my 3DS because it's not as important as my phone, and it doesn't fit in my pocket as well because it's so big.

And then if you have a decent plan, or the completely unlimited plan from straight talk for a very nice $55, you can use the internet just about anywhere, so you don't have to go power on your computer just to browse Facebook or YouTube or whatever

Again, cell phones are the future, and the future is now, whether you like it or not.
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NMB getting his mind blown and losing his shit over really trivial shit again, lol

what the fuck is wrong with this dude
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Google Maps tells me how much gas is at all the gas stations!
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