Current Events > Kingdom Come Deliverance any fun?

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Might get it on PC

@apolloooo
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Yes yes and yes.

One if the best open world rpg aloN with new vegas and gothic
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The only downside is you gotta play as Fish Eye Henry
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Vyrulisse posted...

The only downside is you gotta play as Fish Eye Henry

He looks alot better after the haircut dlc which i gsve him undercut
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Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion
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Yes.

Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion

lol

Yeah TC it's great
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion

I think it should include furries and otherkins too.
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Goats posted...

It was pretty good. The game creator's ... particular political viewpoints seem to shine through on occasion and those are very jarring, but other than that it's a fun game.

What political view? It is just how things were in 1403
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M_Live posted...

It has like, 2 or 3 fans. Most people agree that's it's broken, unfun, and poorly designed.

For the most part, this.
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it's pretty awful. It plays like shit and isnt interesting at all.
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apolloooo posted...

Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion

I think it should include furries and otherkins too.

my dream medieval rpg would include furries and lizards and racism. man i want that.
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apolloooo posted...

Goats posted...

It was pretty good. The game creator's ... particular political viewpoints seem to shine through on occasion and those are very jarring, but other than that it's a fun game.

What political view? It is just how things were in 1403

I remember magical potions in 1403
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I remember when it came out a lot of people were singing praises, and then when it turned out the creator was a trump fan they all tried to say the game sucked lol
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only RPG i've bothered to sink time into in like 5 years.
it's pretty good.
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myzz7 posted...

apolloooo posted...

Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion

I think it should include furries and otherkins too.

my dream medieval rpg would include furries and lizards and racism. man i want that.

elder scrolls?
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myzz7 posted...

my dream medieval rpg would include furries and lizards and racism. man i want that.

So, Skyrim. If you want it in high doses just walk around Windhelm.

As for KCD, my understanding is that it needs a few patches, and new players should rush for training with a blade to transition from 'stupid serf swinging a sword like a bat' to 'amateur man-at-arms'. Then the combat system opens up a bit.
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Is it worth it for $42.99 or should I wait for a better deal in a month or two when summer sales are here?

DuranOfForcena posted...

Oakland510_ posted...

Is it worth it for $42.99 or should I wait for a better deal in a month or two when summer sales are here?

that's definitely a good price for it if you are looking to play it. i don't think it's likely to go any lower during the summer sale, cuz it's still pretty new.

Is it the type of game that can give an rpg lover 200+ hours of gameplay? If so I think ill buy it

It recaptured the Skyrim rush for me. Highly recommend it. I think the setting is a mite boring but they get around to using it in cool ways, most memorable to everyone being the monastery.
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Vyrulisse posted...

The only downside is you gotta play as Fish Eye Henry

Yeah, I wish you could customize his appearance heavily. I understand you have to be a specific guy, but as long as he looks Bohemian, who cares?

I think the game is okay. I got bored because of its ultra-realism approach. I knew that's what it was like before buying it, but it wasn't as fun as it sounded. This of this as a olde tyme Roy from Rick & Morty.
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...

Could have been. However the game is brought down by it's racism. Not a single person of color. And don't give me that crap about there were no black people in Medieval Europe. Historical accuracy is just a code word for racism and needs to die in the name of inclusion

Oh brother lol.
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It's basically Skyrim set in medieval times.

Any last opinions before I buy it?

is it on sale?
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$42.99 for pc on dlgamer

Yes it's fun. The writing is awful and it's full of bugs, though. So if that's a dealbreaker for you, avoid it. Also, the promised, 'multiple solutions' feature is not really true after the first act. I also can not emphasize how goofy the writing it, like pulpy dimestore novel type stuff.

DuranOfForcena posted...

first i've heard anything said about "multiple solutions" in KCD

I remember it specifically being mentioned in most reviews when you are still in the strapped in the town. There is a couple ways out and people really focused on how the first few quests had that.

DuranOfForcena posted...

also, the writing isn't stellar, but i would never describe it as awful or goofy. i'm curious what writing in particular makes you think that way?

The character's are awful archetypes. Like, some really bad ones. Not just Henry, who has an excuse for being a blank slate. The rest are all sort of caricatures of medieval life ripped from every TV show since the 80's. The fact that they all speak in proper British accents is weird too.

Then you have the quests. Take Lady Stephanie you do one quest for you and she immediately wants to sleep with you. You barely even have to be nice to her, just do some chores and get it on. Or there was the witchcraft quest where you follow the three random interchangeable women into the forest where they rub a magic potion on their lady bits so they can speak to the dead, then the twist, they accidentally get it on you and you start halucinating they are animals and lockpick their genitals and then fight some demon's that turn out to be lumberjacks. It was pretty dumb.

There is also the overarching narrative. Henry is a commoner blacksmith, "but wait!", there is one noble who is nice to him and gives him a chance while the others constantly berate him for not being noble enough! Oh, and then the spoiled brat heir turns out to be not such a bad guy! The Guard Captain gives you a hard time, but he's secretly fond of you and is willing to train you to be an honorable knight! For a game that boasted about being historical, it basically just rehashed the same Arthurian archetypes we've seen in media and fantasy for the past few hundred years.

They also had a great opportunity to show the conflict as two-sided. Instead, they just made the Turks generic, invading barbarian foreigners. They accurately show that the Bohemians all thought them Turks, but never go to any lengths to show they were actually Christian and mercenaries, which would have been a far more interesting dynamic if you ask me.

Basically, the commoner blacksmith whose father had a storied past goes for revenge and out nobles the nobles. All the women want to sleep with him and he slays barbaric foreign invaders by the droves.

Now, I'm not saying it's a horrible game. It actually had some very good ideas and mechanics. It's just flawed and I think people should be aware of that going in.

the game's story and writing is utterly embarrassing
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DuranOfForcena posted...

^that's all a matter of opinion. like i said, i wouldn't call the writing stellar, but not awful, or goofy either. well, there's a couple bits that are pretty goofy, but i thought they came off charmingly so.

Yeah, but my initial description of the plot as 'goofy' was also my opinion. This whole thing is about people's opinions. I mean, do you expect a factual discussion on a subjective question like, "how is this game"? Is there even any point in saying, "that's just your opinion"?

DuranOfForcena posted...

and i don't count it against KCD that it plays on some familiar tropes and archetypes. that's not always a bad thing. see my sig, and the full quote it comes from.

I didn't. It felt lazy. The characters were one dimensional. The story was stereotypical. All women basically existed either to have sex with or to be old ragged ladies (to the point that an entire quest chain was given to me by a woman simply known "Old Whore").

As I mentioned, it also had a lot of potential cool directions to go in. The Turkish invaders could have been explored. Sir Radzig could have been explored instead of just being the stereotypical, "Noble who decides to hire a commoner for no reason and gives them a way into noble affairs". Women could have been used to show how shitty life was for them in the middle ages, or how influential many female nobles were. That's not even mentioning the priest's storyline, who is the stereotypical, 'Old Priest whose actually a badass retired warrior and now preaches about church corruption and all that", who apparently started the reformation 300 years earlier than expected.

I think what makes it all worse is that the major selling point of the game was the historical setting and authentic feel, and it delivered nothing even remotely like that. I found myself rolling my eyes more than getting into it.

Nice chain of events there.
Oakland510_ posted...

Any last opinions before I buy it?

Dash_Harber posted...

The character's are awful archetypes.

DuranOfForcena posted...

that's all a matter of opinion.

Aka "That's just, like, your opinion, man!"
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bump.

i want this game on my next paycheck!
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Stephanie slept with you because her husband is a fucking loser and everyone thinks Henry is a Chad except the player
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DuranOfForcena posted...

i understand that that is your opinion, and i understand that you think all you are doing is giving your opinion, but at the same time you said "It's just flawed and I think people should be aware of that going in" like you think you are performing some kind of altruistic public service about 100% factual flaws in the game. but what you claim are flaws is subjective and not everyone will view them as flaws.

The guy asked for opinions. You are taking this way too seriously. Are you saying only people that liked the game can give their opinion?

Also, the flaws I referred to were not just poor writing. As I mentioned before, it has some rough edges. There are a number of well-documented bugs. Then you have things like divisive gameplay mechanics or the poor voice acting.

DuranOfForcena posted...

like the playing to tropes and stereotypes thing, and especially all this shit you are talking about with how the game portrayed the Turkish invaders, or about womens' lot in life at the time. you can think that they should have gone in a specific direction with them, and that's fine, but the fact that they didn't go in the direction that you personally think they should have went with does not make it a flaw of the game.

Again, they asked for opinions. What the hell do you want from me? I said the weak story was a flaw. Evidently, I'm not the only one who thought so. You are the one who asked for specific ways I felt it was flawed. I'm not saying it's fact, I'm saying that is my opinion.

DuranOfForcena posted...

it makes it seem like you didn't, as there is a very specific reason that the noble decided to let the commoner into their service that is revealed about 2/3 of the way through.

I must not have reached there, but I'm guessing it's something else incredibly stereotypical like he was secretly noble all along or something else cliched like that.

It's awesome. Very different in that Henry, the character, starts off useless.

The game is built so that it doesn't matter if you are good at the combat or lockpicking or stealth, at the beginning of the game, Henry is not, and there's nothing you can do about it.

You need to get to the point where you can train skills, and then train, train, train
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bump