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known2FAIL
05/25/18 9:09:30 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-concerned-wiretaps-show-trump-jr-met-putin-ally-231215529.html

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russias Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobbys annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.

Jos Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as El Padrino, the godfather.

Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI, Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshins meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: Mr. Trumps son should be concerned.

The comments by Grinda were the first clear sign that the FBI may be investigating Torshin, possibly as a part of special counsel Robert Muellers probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Torshin a close political ally of Vladimir Putin had multiple contacts with conservative activists in the United States during the election, seeking to set up a summit between the Russian president and then candidate Trump. Although the summit never transpired, Torshin did meet briefly with the presidents son at a private dinner in Louisville during the May 2016 annual convention of the NRA. A member of the NRA since 2012, Torshin has been a regular attendee of the groups conventions in recent years and hosted senior members of the group in Moscow.

Grinda said that the FBI, in its request for the evidence to the Guardia Civil, the Spanish National Police, provided no explanation as to why it was interested in the material and he didnt ask for one. I dont have to ask them why they want this information, he said. But Grinda added that if Mueller or any other U.S. prosecutor seeks to use the material as part of a court case, they would have to make a second, more formal request to do so to the Spanish government.

Spokesmen for the FBI and Muellers office did not respond to requests for comment. Alan Futerfas, a lawyer for Trump Jr., said he was in a meeting and was unable to comment when contacted by Yahoo News.

Torshin has been the subject of intensifying U.S. government and congressional scrutiny over the past year and was recently among a lengthy list of oligarchs and Russian political figures sanctioned by the Treasury Department. As reported by Yahoo News and the Spanish newspaper El Pas last year, the Spanish National Police were preparing to arrest Torshin in August 2013, when he was expected to fly to the Spanish island of Mallorca in August for the birthday party of Romanov. The arrest plan, which involved the deployment of more than a dozen police officers at the airport and at the hotel where the party was supposed to take place, grew out of a lengthy investigation headed by Grinda into Russian organized crime and money laundering. As part of the probe, the Guardia Civil wiretapped Romanovs phone and picked up 33 conversations with Torshin.

But Torshin never showed up for the party and he was never arrested. Grinda confirmed in an interview after his talk that some in the Guardia Civil suspected that Torshin had been tipped off to the arrest plan by Russian officials who had been asked to cooperate in the Spanish probe. But Grinda added that he was unable to prove that was why Torshin never showed up for the party.


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known2FAIL
05/25/18 9:09:42 PM
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Despite the suspicions about his ties to Russian money laundering, Torshin continued to travel frequently to the United States and even showed up as part of a Russian delegation in February 2017 to the National Prayer Breakfast, where he was at one point scheduled to meet with President Trump. (The meeting was canceled the night before, after National Security Council officials raised concerns about it.) More recently, Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden sent multiple letters to the NRA asking about its ties to Torshin and other Russian figures, questioning whether Russian money was funneled to the NRA to help pay for the more than $30 million the group spent on political ads and get out the vote efforts during the 2016 election.

An NRA lawyer, in responses to Wyden, said that Torshin has only paid his membership dues to the group and that, based on an internal review, the NRA received a total of only $2,500 from about 23 Russia-linked contributors since 2015. However, the NRA is now reviewing its relationship with Torshin in light of the Treasury Department blacklisting him last month. Based on Mr. Torshins listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him, NRA general counsel John Frazer wrote to Wyden.

An NRA spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

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littlebro07
05/25/18 9:29:52 PM
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slimfizzle2
05/25/18 9:38:56 PM
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Phantom_Nook
05/25/18 9:39:58 PM
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Lordy, there are tapes.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/25/18 9:42:35 PM
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uh oh spaghetti O's!
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/18 9:46:58 PM
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Wait.

Why did they only just now obtain the wiretaps when Trump clearly stated that the FBI spy informant was already in his campaign?
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slimfizzle2
05/25/18 9:50:26 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Wait.

Why did they only just now obtain the wiretaps when Trump clearly stated that the FBI spy informant was already in his campaign?

This is why Hillary should be president. According to the conspiracies she would have found and killed the mole mole mole and ate his children before shit got this far.

Or is Obama the one who ate children?
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tremain07
05/25/18 9:51:59 PM
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Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.

Absolutely none of this shit matters so long as the republicans are in charge. Bill said it best, Trump is above the law, no laws apply to him. Not a single fucking one.
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Tyranthraxus
05/25/18 9:52:00 PM
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slimfizzle2 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Wait.

Why did they only just now obtain the wiretaps when Trump clearly stated that the FBI spy informant was already in his campaign?

This is why Hillary should be president. According to the conspiracies she would have found and killed the mole mole mole and ate his children before shit got this far.

Or is Obama the one who ate children?

THEN WHO WAS PHONE!?
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ReignFury
05/25/18 9:55:45 PM
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The never ending shit show continues
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clearaflagrantj
05/25/18 9:57:07 PM
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"Fake news, nothingburger, LIHERALS"
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slimfizzle2
05/25/18 9:58:17 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
THEN WHO WAS PHONE!?

FAKE NEWS!?
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DifferentialEquation
05/25/18 9:59:21 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.
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Doom_Art
05/25/18 10:00:11 PM
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n o t h i n g b u r g e r
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known2FAIL
05/25/18 10:07:37 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.


Lawl
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tremain07
05/25/18 10:09:21 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.

He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.
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slimfizzle2
05/25/18 10:12:35 PM
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tremain07 posted...
He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.

But don't you dare compare him to Hitler

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DifferentialEquation
05/25/18 10:17:02 PM
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tremain07 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.

He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.


This would help both America and China. And this is literally Trump fulfilling one of his campaign promises. He said he was going to make great deals with China. This is one of the reasons why we voted for him.
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OEIO999
05/25/18 10:18:08 PM
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People still care about the FBI investigation? Really? At this new point, any new lead that is unearthed just gets a light grunt from me.
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known2FAIL
05/25/18 11:02:01 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.

He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.


This would help both America and China. And this is literally Trump fulfilling one of his campaign promises. He said he was going to make great deals with China. This is one of the reasons why we voted for him.


You are one of a kind you know that?
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DifferentialEquation
05/26/18 12:15:06 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.

He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.


This would help both America and China. And this is literally Trump fulfilling one of his campaign promises. He said he was going to make great deals with China. This is one of the reasons why we voted for him.


You are one of a kind you know that?


No, plenty of others feel the same way. Tens of millions of people voted for him.
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A_Good_Boy
05/26/18 12:18:19 PM
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OEIO999 posted...
People still care about the FBI investigation? Really? At this new point, any new lead that is unearthed just gets a light grunt from me.

That's the sound of Trump fucking you.
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UnfairRepresent
05/26/18 12:44:03 PM
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We got him this time fellas!
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known2FAIL
05/26/18 1:39:15 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
known2FAIL posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
tremain07 posted...
Who cares? We know the republican controlled congress house and senate won't do anything, Trump just flat out accepted a bribe from China to fund his businesses over there and went completely over Congress to save their company which has been proven to spy on Americans by the way.


It wasn't a bribe. And haven't you heard the saying "one hand washes the other"? This is how great business deals are made.

He's the fucking president and rather than those deals going towards helping the citizens or the world he's just fattening his fucking wallet, that's ALL he's been doing his entire time in office outside or proving time and time again he's an ally of the racist crowd. Trump is cancer and the republican party that allows him to continue this behavior seems to fail to realize like most spoiled children, lack of accountability means escalation, Trump isn't going to stop here, he's going to keep going to the point he'll probably put up american secrets for sell to the highest bidder if he already hasn't. This dude doesn't give a good goddamn about this country nor does anyone else in his administration. They're all here to get as rich as they can and then fuck off to some other country when America has no more blood to drain.


This would help both America and China. And this is literally Trump fulfilling one of his campaign promises. He said he was going to make great deals with China. This is one of the reasons why we voted for him.


You are one of a kind you know that?


No, plenty of others feel the same way. Tens of millions of people voted for him.


You're one of a kind because you believe everyone that voted for Trump are just one big hive mind
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OEIO999
05/27/18 9:31:30 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
OEIO999 posted...
People still care about the FBI investigation? Really? At this new point, any new lead that is unearthed just gets a light grunt from me.

That's the sound of Trump fucking you.


America has already been fucked by him, you make it sound you should be self-aware now. Also my country is a bit busy getting gangbanged all around, so Trump will have to get in line.
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gunplagirl
05/27/18 9:38:29 PM
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Really looking forward to this administration heading and trump's family that helps out all heading to prison or the execution chamber.
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