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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 9:07:51 AM
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Why wouldn't Strange cutting off Thanos' hand with a portal and sending it elsewhere in the universe have worked? Would Thanos have somehow got the gauntlet back anyway?
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Doom_Art
05/22/18 9:08:22 AM
#2:


Yes
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LightningAce11
05/22/18 9:09:43 AM
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Why wouldn't that work, though? All we got is a cheap cop out.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 9:21:08 AM
#4:


LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't that work, though? All we got is a cheap cop out.


I wish we would have gotten a scene where he sees all of those scenarios and the other characters say "What if we...", and then Doctor Strange explains why it wouldn't work.
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clearaflagrantj
05/22/18 9:22:25 AM
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Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something
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chrono625
05/22/18 9:23:06 AM
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Why wouldn't that work, though? All we got is a cheap cop out.


I wish we would have gotten a scene where he sees all of those scenarios and the other characters say "What if we...", and then Doctor Strange explains why it wouldn't work.


It's on the 1000 hour extended scenes bluray where he goes over ever plan and why it doesnt work.
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ghettoraider81
05/22/18 9:25:55 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something


This is how I feel. Sure you can cut off his hand and send away the gauntlet, but who know who gets it then and what happens.

Dr. Strange does, thats why they dont do it.
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fan357
05/22/18 9:27:21 AM
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Because that would be lame. We didn't wait this long to not see Thanos win.
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Knowledge_King
05/22/18 9:34:26 AM
#9:


Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 9:43:48 AM
#10:


Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.
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VTBM
05/22/18 9:43:59 AM
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What if he portal'd it into a supermassive black hole or something
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LightHawKnight
05/22/18 9:46:19 AM
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Did you notice that it took literally all they had to cause a single drop of blood to be shed? How are they going to cut off his hand? Strange even saw the future when they took the gauntlet from Thanos, they still lost.
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 9:47:33 AM
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.

If they reached that far, he wouldn't have needed the donut ship to get back to Earth.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 11:12:53 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.

If they reached that far, he wouldn't have needed the donut ship to get back to Earth.


How far away can he make a portal to?
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Muffinz0rz
05/22/18 11:14:57 AM
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.

If they reached that far, he wouldn't have needed the donut ship to get back to Earth.


How far away can he make a portal to?

I don't think he's ever made one from one planet to another. Like I've only seen Earth portals to other places on Earth, and he's only portaled on Titan from one place to another.

EDIT: Althoouugghhh, in Ragnarok, he does portal Loki to some place where he can fall for 30 minutes straight, but I don't think that was ever elaborated upon.
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SavenForever
05/22/18 11:44:45 AM
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It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 11:48:40 AM
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SavenForever posted...
It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.


That doesn't explain anything.
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prince_leo
05/22/18 11:50:12 AM
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it's just lazy writing. every single argument you can make about how the fight should go differently can be answered with "that wasn't apart of the only successful timeline"

it's par for the course as far as MCU writing is concerned. fun films but they're not well written
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SavenForever
05/22/18 11:54:23 AM
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.


That doesn't explain anything.


Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work.
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refmon
05/22/18 11:55:27 AM
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I find it hard to believe that strange can beat basically anyone by just cutting them in half with a portal
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Coffeebeanz
05/22/18 12:00:51 PM
#22:


Why doesn't Thanos just make more universe resources
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 12:18:24 PM
#23:


SavenForever posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.


That doesn't explain anything.


Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work.


But why? At least Strange could have said a line or two as to why certain strategies wouldn't work.
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SavenForever
05/22/18 12:22:57 PM
#24:


YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.


That doesn't explain anything.


Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work.


But why? At least Strange could have said a line or two as to why certain strategies wouldn't work.


If he mentioned it out loud, it probably would've been one of those outcomes where no one wins.
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I Like Toast
05/22/18 12:33:08 PM
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Because contrary to your belief, it was a movie not a documentary
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gamer167
05/22/18 12:35:56 PM
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Because then they couldnt make a second Infinity Wars movie and make another billion dollars
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lincoln002
05/22/18 12:39:28 PM
#27:


TC, Dr strange simply doesn't have access to that kind of information, either that or Thanos is able to psychologically block him from performing that kind of sorcery.
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YoshitoKikuchi
05/22/18 5:01:49 PM
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SavenForever posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
SavenForever posted...
It wasn't apart of the one timeline that would work, duh.


That doesn't explain anything.


Yeah it does, he said there is only one possible timeline to stop Thanos. Strange obviously had seen that putting his hand through another portal would not work.


But why? At least Strange could have said a line or two as to why certain strategies wouldn't work.


If he mentioned it out loud, it probably would've been one of those outcomes where no one wins.


They would have been, and they definitely didn't need him to explain dozens, but at least one or two glaring scenarios.
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Howl
05/22/18 8:58:18 PM
#29:


refmon posted...
I find it hard to believe that strange can beat basically anyone by just cutting them in half with a portal


I made this topic about a week ago. The fanboys will go to extreme lengths to just make shit up to try to defend the blatantly awful plot holes and writing this movie had. There's no point in discussing it with them tbh.

Case in point...

lincoln002 posted...
TC, Dr strange simply doesn't have access to that kind of information, either that or Thanos is able to psychologically block him from performing that kind of sorcery.

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Knowledge_King
05/22/18 9:30:15 PM
#30:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Why doesn't Thanos just make more universe resources


Can't.

YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.


Only anywhere on the planet from what we've seen. That wouldn't take him long. Especially as him and his children appear to be able to track infinity stones.

Also if he kills Strange and takes the time stone, he just rewinds the area where the gauntlet was and gets it back.
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 9:32:08 PM
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Howl posted...
I made this topic about a week ago. The fanboys will go to extreme lengths to just make s*** up to try to defend the blatantly awful plot holes and writing this movie had. There's no point in discussing it with them tbh.

You got smacked the fuck up, don't get it twisted.
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Howl
05/22/18 9:32:17 PM
#32:


Knowledge_King posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Why doesn't Thanos just make more universe resources


Can't.

YoshitoKikuchi posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Might work temporarily to stop the snap. But everyone on Titan now dies and Thanos eventually goes and gets his gauntlet back so...just a delay and definitely a loss.


How would he find it? Doctor Strange could use the portal to send it anywhere remote.


Only anywhere on the planet from what we've seen. That wouldn't take him long. Especially as him and his children appear to be able to track infinity stones.

Also if he kills Strange and takes the time stone, he just rewinds the area where the gauntlet was and gets it back.


No possible way that Strange could have viewed realities that included future events that included Thanos rewinding time in a million and change possibilities. That would have to include quntillions of possibilities for that to be true.
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ErrorCrX
05/22/18 9:36:04 PM
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Mans had already had the Reality Stone by then. Strange would've cut off bubbles.
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Raikuro
05/22/18 9:49:40 PM
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ErrorCrX posted...
Mans had already had the Reality Stone by then. Strange would've cut off bubbles.

His hand was being disabled at the time when everyone was holding him down. Could have easily opened a portal, pulled his gauntlet arm through, and closed it. Instead of just struggling and failing to remove it from his hand.
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 10:57:28 PM
#35:


Raikuro posted...
Could have easily opened a portal, pulled his gauntlet arm through, and closed it.

I don't think you realize that he was barely restrained. He had enough willpower where he would've immediately broken free of whatever Mantis was doing and reclaimed it.

And if not, they're still on Titan with no way home. It has never been shown that the Sling Ring can open a portal from one planet to another so the Gauntlet would've been where he can easily get it again.
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Dash_Harber
05/22/18 10:58:42 PM
#36:


Have his portals actually been shown to be able to cut limbs/objects?
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DarthAragorn
05/22/18 10:59:07 PM
#37:


Dash_Harber posted...
Have his portals actually been shown to be able to cut limbs/objects?

In Infinity War itself
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Dash_Harber
05/22/18 10:59:35 PM
#38:


DarthAragorn posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Have his portals actually been shown to be able to cut limbs/objects?

In Infinity War itself

I haven't seen it yet, that's why I'm asking.
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Howl
05/22/18 10:59:47 PM
#39:


Dash_Harber posted...
Have his portals actually been shown to be able to cut limbs/objects?


He cuts one of Thanos' minions arm off like that in the movie.
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 11:00:08 PM
#40:


Dash_Harber posted...
Have his portals actually been shown to be able to cut limbs/objects?

To one of the Black Order, but I get the impression he was significantly weaker than Thanos. Remember, "all that for a drop of blood".
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Dash_Harber
05/22/18 11:01:06 PM
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Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking.

Either way, Thanos might have some sort of magical protection himself. Given that, IIRC, he's conquered like half the galaxy, I'm fairly certain he would have come across magic before.
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 11:02:20 PM
#42:


Dash_Harber posted...
Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking.

...While I agree with you, why are you here if you haven't seen it??
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Dash_Harber
05/22/18 11:03:54 PM
#43:


dave_is_slick posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking.

...While I agree with you, why are you here if you haven't seen it??

I don't have a huge interest anymore and I've seen enough spoilers that nothing is really going to have much of an impact. I have a long history with comics and superheroes, though, and still keep tabs on the series.
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VandorLee
05/22/18 11:04:23 PM
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Because the script. Bad writing specifically.
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Howl
05/22/18 11:06:01 PM
#45:


Dash_Harber posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking.

...While I agree with you, why are you here if you haven't seen it??

I don't have a huge interest anymore and I've seen enough spoilers that nothing is really going to have much of an impact. I have a long history with comics and superheroes, though, and still keep tabs on the series.


No, he means whay do you think you could possibly add to the conversation about a movie you haven't seen? Lol
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 11:06:13 PM
#46:


VandorLee posted...
Bad writing specifically.

*sigh*
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 11:06:34 PM
#47:


Howl posted...
No, he means whay do you think you could possibly add to the conversation about a movie you haven't seen? Lol

No I don't.
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Dash_Harber
05/22/18 11:07:05 PM
#48:


Howl posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Again, haven't seen it yet, was just asking.

...While I agree with you, why are you here if you haven't seen it??

I don't have a huge interest anymore and I've seen enough spoilers that nothing is really going to have much of an impact. I have a long history with comics and superheroes, though, and still keep tabs on the series.


No, he means whay do you think you could possibly add to the conversation about a movie you haven't seen? Lol

Oh, just the years and years of comic experience I mentioned previously. Or maybe I just wanted to read what other people thought.

Either way, no need for open hostility.
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Howl
05/22/18 11:07:08 PM
#49:


dave_is_slick posted...
VandorLee posted...
Bad writing specifically.

*sigh*


The movie sucks and has bad writing. I agree with your sigh tbh.
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awesome999
05/22/18 11:07:31 PM
#50:


ghettoraider81 posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Maybe if Thanos didn't do the snap someone else would have used the guantlet to become a God or something


This is how I feel. Sure you can cut off his hand and send away the gauntlet, but who know who gets it then and what happens.

Dr. Strange does, thats why they dont do it.

What if they send it near a black hole where the gravity eventually gets it
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dave_is_slick
05/22/18 11:09:28 PM
#51:


Howl posted...
The movie sucks and has bad writing. I agree with your sigh tbh.

You're kinda pathetic.
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