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UInstinctGogeta
05/06/18 11:31:36 PM
#351:


StealThisSheen posted...
Wow that match sucked

I think I would have rather Reigns win with a spear in like ten seconds


Of course it did.... Roman was in it....

I legit want to knock out anyone who ever says dumb shit like he's a good hand.... he fucking isn't. He's fucking terrible
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Jakyl25
05/06/18 11:32:27 PM
#352:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Fucking huge lol at putting Roman over here.

There is absolutely no reason to give Roman a win here. None. This fucking guy is met with either boredom or boos for the entirety of his big profile matches. He comes across as so pathetic when the crowd just dumps on him so constantly. I can't understand not making him a heel now. I just can't. It's insane.


Its not even so much putting Roman over

Its putting him over in these ridiculously basic matches where he exhibits ZERO babyface fire
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:33:26 PM
#353:


UInstinctGogeta posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Wow that match sucked

I think I would have rather Reigns win with a spear in like ten seconds


Of course it did.... Roman was in it....

I legit want to knock out anyone who ever says dumb shit like he's a good hand.... he fucking isn't. He's fucking terrible


Roman is a good hand.

@Steiner please remove MWC.
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Steiner
05/06/18 11:33:56 PM
#354:


hey get out mwc
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UInstinctGogeta
05/06/18 11:34:08 PM
#355:


TheRock1525 posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Wow that match sucked

I think I would have rather Reigns win with a spear in like ten seconds


Of course it did.... Roman was in it....

I legit want to knock out anyone who ever says dumb shit like he's a good hand.... he fucking isn't. He's fucking terrible


Roman is a good hand.

@Steiner please remove MWC.


No he isn't....

Fucking mark
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5tarscream
05/06/18 11:35:22 PM
#356:


The Rock's name is Mark?

Oh Hi Mark.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/18 11:35:55 PM
#357:


ScareChan posted...
Roman needed the win because he is staying on Raw and he has been losing since the chamber

But what's another loss? And saying Roman has been losing since Chamber is disingenuous since he has won practically every match except for the PPV matches.

But why does he need momentum right now? It's not like the fans could care any less about him and his matches at this point. Got to make him look strong for, what exactly? Why can't his next program be against someone on RAW where he's trying to get his groove back? I mean, the fans still won't care because it's god damn Roman, but still.
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RaidenZeroX
05/06/18 11:36:38 PM
#358:


This show was a pretty bad aside from Miz/Rollins. That was spectacular.
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X_Dante_X
05/06/18 11:37:39 PM
#359:


i almost feel like this PPV was meant to be watched in reverse match order
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Jakyl25
05/06/18 11:37:46 PM
#360:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

But what's another loss? And saying Roman has been losing since Chamber is disingenuous since he has won practically every match except for the PPV matches.


He hasnt had any matches on TV since the Chamber <_<
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:38:37 PM
#361:


Wait, I heard Samoa Joe did a Muscle Buster tease.

God he really needs that back.
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:39:42 PM
#362:


"I'll give to it Roman Reigns: he continues to show up."

That's the best back-handed compliment ever.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/18 11:39:44 PM
#363:


Jakyl25 posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Fucking huge lol at putting Roman over here.

There is absolutely no reason to give Roman a win here. None. This fucking guy is met with either boredom or boos for the entirety of his big profile matches. He comes across as so pathetic when the crowd just dumps on him so constantly. I can't understand not making him a heel now. I just can't. It's insane.


Its not even so much putting Roman over

Its putting him over in these ridiculously basic matches where he exhibits ZERO babyface fire

It doesn't help that Roman's comebacks are just out of nowhere jumping punches and a so-so spear. There is just no excitement in anything this dude does. And then you wonder why the heels have to take so much of the match because he has no offensive moves to actually use in order to look at all impressive or get any shine at all. His shine is a near fall off of his finisher! That's all he's got!

I don't know why he hasn't been encouraged to develop any kind of offense at all that isn't something that literally anybody could do with no in-ring training.
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UInstinctGogeta
05/06/18 11:40:57 PM
#364:


RaidenZeroX posted...
This show was a pretty bad aside from Miz/Rollins. That was spectacular.


If you subtract that....

It's pretty much the worst booked PPV of all time.... prove me wrong.

Management Rat should have been beaten instantly.
Orton Jeff was most basic match ever
Charlotte should have been screwed or won clean.... losing clean is fucking absurd.
Cass fued shouldn't have continued.
Nak should have won.
Owens wasn't the legal man... (and Lashley shouldn't be gettig the pin anyway).
Roman should have passed out clean.
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5tarscream
05/06/18 11:41:43 PM
#365:


Roman with the 5 knuckle shuffle into the FU out of nowhere.
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GTM
05/06/18 11:41:47 PM
#366:


haha carmella in the camera shot
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NBIceman
05/06/18 11:42:52 PM
#367:


No PPV will ever be booked worse than Battleground 2015.
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:43:01 PM
#368:


"Backlash 2018 results: AJ Styles is still WWE champion, and everyones penis hurts"

Best headline.
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:43:23 PM
#369:


UInstinctGogeta posted...
RaidenZeroX posted...
This show was a pretty bad aside from Miz/Rollins. That was spectacular.


If you subtract that....

It's pretty much the worst booked PPV of all time.... prove me wrong.

Management Rat should have been beaten instantly.
Orton Jeff was most basic match ever
Charlotte should have been screwed or won clean.... losing clean is fucking absurd.
Cass fued shouldn't have continued.
Nak should have won.
Owens wasn't the legal man... (and Lashley shouldn't be gettig the pin anyway).
Roman should have passed out clean.


@Steiner

MWC isn't leaving.
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UInstinctGogeta
05/06/18 11:44:02 PM
#370:


NBIceman posted...
No PPV will ever be booked worse than Battleground 2015.


Wasn't that the Shield triple threat?

If so, no
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/18 11:44:23 PM
#371:


Jakyl25 posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

But what's another loss? And saying Roman has been losing since Chamber is disingenuous since he has won practically every match except for the PPV matches.


He hasnt had any matches on TV since the Chamber <_<

I just looked this up because I felt like there was absolutely no way.

His last RAW match was the RAW 1000 (or whatever number it was) where he, Balor, and Rollins beat the Miztourage on March 16, and before that was his Gauntlet match where he lost to Seth Rollins on February 19.

I am blown away. Why has he not wrestled at all on RAW? While he's bitching and complaining about Brock Lesnar not showing up to do his job? I'm so lost at this.
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TheRock1525
05/06/18 11:46:23 PM
#372:


Also, someone suggested that Styles and Nakamura have an I Quit match where Nakamura says I Quit in Japanese, but the ref is confused and doesn't realize he said I Quit.
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Solioxrz362
05/06/18 11:46:32 PM
#373:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Fucking huge lol at putting Roman over here.

There is absolutely no reason to give Roman a win here. None. This fucking guy is met with either boredom or boos for the entirety of his big profile matches. He comes across as so pathetic when the crowd just dumps on him so constantly. I can't understand not making him a heel now. I just can't. It's insane.


Its not even so much putting Roman over

Its putting him over in these ridiculously basic matches where he exhibits ZERO babyface fire

It doesn't help that Roman's comebacks are just out of nowhere jumping punches and a so-so spear. There is just no excitement in anything this dude does. And then you wonder why the heels have to take so much of the match because he has no offensive moves to actually use in order to look at all impressive or get any shine at all. His shine is a near fall off of his finisher! That's all he's got!

I don't know why he hasn't been encouraged to develop any kind of offense at all that isn't something that literally anybody could do with no in-ring training.

He's got the drive-by, but it's not necessarily a very interesting move.

I like the way his punches look but they're just punches, can't build a match around them.

Superman Punch looks like total shit and really has no credibility with me.

Spear is over-used, not that interesting. When it suddenly ends a match, it's certainly no RKO out of nowhere. And it's way more predictable because he's always gotta be corner to corner or running between the ropes. You can tell when he's about to throw it out and there's no tension.

I'm sure he has other moves but literally every single one of his matches recently has been Roman takes punishment, makes "impressive" comeback with Superman Punches + Spear(s). Maybe throw an out-of-the-ring brawl in there where he does those big uppercut punches a few times and then gets a drive by. So if he has other moves I haven't seen them in a long time.

yeah he's really boring
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NBIceman
05/06/18 11:46:36 PM
#374:


UInstinctGogeta posted...
NBIceman posted...
No PPV will ever be booked worse than Battleground 2015.


Wasn't that the Shield triple threat?

If so, no

That was the one where Owens and Cena wrestled the third match in their series, which was literally almost a carbon copy of the first two matches except that Cena won by tapping Owens out.

It was also main evented by Lesnar and Rollins where Lesnar won by DQ after one of the dumbest matches psychology-wise ever.
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Jakyl25
05/06/18 11:49:09 PM
#375:


https://twitter.com/trevordame/status/993305667812319233?s=21

Someone go to one of these Cass/Bryan matches and play Ishii/Sabre Jr. on an iPad in the front row. I'm desperate here, we have to lure Bryan back.

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UInstinctGogeta
05/06/18 11:49:10 PM
#376:


NBIceman posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
NBIceman posted...
No PPV will ever be booked worse than Battleground 2015.


Wasn't that the Shield triple threat?

If so, no

That was the one where Owens and Cena wrestled the third match in their series, which was literally almost a carbon copy of the first two matches except that Cena won by tapping Owens out.

It was also main evented by Lesnar and Rollins where Lesnar won by DQ after one of the dumbest matches psychology-wise ever.


That's only 2 matches though....

This was EVERY match on the card (sans the opener)
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NBIceman
05/06/18 11:50:46 PM
#377:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/trevordame/status/993305667812319233?s=21

Someone go to one of these Cass/Bryan matches and play Ishii/Sabre Jr. on an iPad in the front row. I'm desperate here, we have to lure Bryan back.

If they keep booking him against Cass, he'll leave on his own accord.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/18 11:52:57 PM
#378:


Solioxrz362 posted...
'm sure he has other moves but literally every single one of his matches recently has been Roman takes punishment, makes "impressive" comeback with Superman Punches + Spear(s). Maybe throw an out-of-the-ring brawl in there where he does those big uppercut punches a few times and then gets a drive by. So if he has other moves I haven't seen them in a long time

I remember there was a while like a year or two ago where I would watch Roman Reigns matches more intently to see if he used any new moves because this has been an issue for so long.

His moves are Superman Punch, Spear, Drive-By, or a rare Samoan Drop (maybe 1/7 matches). Other than that he just has uppercuts which are nothing special at all and nothing particularly cool or unique. I just don't get why he hasn't stepped up to try new offensive moves or anything and is just content using what is possibly the most basic moveset ever.
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Jakyl25
05/06/18 11:54:28 PM
#379:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

His moves are Superman Punch, Spear, Drive-By, or a rare Samoan Drop (maybe 1/7 matches). Other than that he just has uppercuts which are nothing special at all and nothing particularly cool or unique. I just don't get why he hasn't stepped up to try new offensive moves or anything and is just content using what is possibly the most basic moveset ever.


Worked for Hogan

Yeah but Hogan was a 10 on the charisma scale. Roman is like a 4
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/18 11:58:18 PM
#380:


Nah man, he does that ooooowah thing in the corner and he MUST reload his fist every time before doing a Superman Punch. Charisma out the ass dude.

And Hogan at least had the Hulking Up thing which is a unique spot before he did generic punching. It was something people could get behind. Roman just has spitting up into his beard and acting dead before suddenly reviving in a rest hold. And of course it's worth noting that this is a different time. What worked in the Hogan Era does not work now. People want substance. Roman provides none of that.
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RaidenZeroX
05/06/18 11:59:17 PM
#381:


Jakyl25 posted...
Worked for Hogan

Yeah but Hogan was a 10 on the charisma scale. Roman is like a 4


I think you're being a little generous with Roman. The man is a charasmatic void.

I forget the actual move, but he did something a year or two ago and a few of us in the Discord chat were talking about how that should be his finisher instead of a spear. I wish I could remember what that was.
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Jakyl25
05/07/18 12:00:12 AM
#382:


Roman hurriedly cocking the Superman punch in situations where its not an appropriate time to taunt like it literally powers his punch is hilarious
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Jakyl25
05/07/18 12:00:46 AM
#383:


RaidenZeroX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Worked for Hogan

Yeah but Hogan was a 10 on the charisma scale. Roman is like a 4


I think you're being a little generous with Roman. The man is a charasmatic void.

I forget the actual move, but he did something a year or two ago and a few of us in the Discord chat were talking about how that should be his finisher instead of a spear. I wish I could remember what that was.


He does a sitout powerbomb sometimes
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RaidenZeroX
05/07/18 12:01:50 AM
#384:


Jakyl25 posted...
He does a sitout powerbomb sometimes


He does! That wasn't what it was though. It was something more unique I think.
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NBIceman
05/07/18 12:02:51 AM
#385:


RaidenZeroX posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
He does a sitout powerbomb sometimes


He does! That wasn't what it was though. It was something more unique I think.

Yeah, it was a Black Tiger Bomb.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/07/18 12:05:06 AM
#386:


Jakyl25 posted...
Roman hurriedly cocking the Superman punch in situations where its not an appropriate time to taunt like it literally powers his punch is hilarious

Wasn't there a fiveway match he literally did this four times in a row to everyone in succession while everyone else had fun and elaborate spots and he just shit it up each time he was around by randomly spearing or superman punching people?
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scarletspeed7
05/07/18 12:12:04 AM
#387:


So AJ is currently #16 all-time for longest combined title reigns. Thanks to this win, he will now most likely pass Diesel when he makes it to the next PPV!

Not bad for the Redneck Junior.
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UInstinctGogeta
05/07/18 12:17:54 AM
#388:


scarletspeed7 posted...
So AJ is currently #16 all-time for longest combined title reigns. Thanks to this win, he will now most likely pass Diesel when he makes it to the next PPV!

Not bad for the Redneck Rookie.


Fify
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scarletspeed7
05/07/18 12:18:31 AM
#389:


UInstinctGogeta posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
So AJ is currently #16 all-time for longest combined title reigns. Thanks to this win, he will now most likely pass Diesel when he makes it to the next PPV!

Not bad for the Redneck Rookie.


Fify

You missed the joke.
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Jakyl25
05/07/18 12:20:50 AM
#390:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Roman hurriedly cocking the Superman punch in situations where its not an appropriate time to taunt like it literally powers his punch is hilarious

Wasn't there a fiveway match he literally did this four times in a row to everyone in succession while everyone else had fun and elaborate spots and he just shit it up each time he was around by randomly spearing or superman punching people?


Yeah, Extreme Rules last year

Reigns vs Balor vs Wyatt vs Rollins vs Joe for a shot at Brock
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UInstinctGogeta
05/07/18 12:23:16 AM
#391:


scarletspeed7 posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
So AJ is currently #16 all-time for longest combined title reigns. Thanks to this win, he will now most likely pass Diesel when he makes it to the next PPV!

Not bad for the Redneck Rookie.


Fify

You missed the joke.


Care to explain it?
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scarletspeed7
05/07/18 12:26:48 AM
#392:


It's his third year. So in WWE logic he is I his third year as a wrestler.
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Jakyl25
05/07/18 12:30:48 AM
#393:


https://twitter.com/thebarrylad/status/993315597432877058?s=21

Roman Reigns, who has spent months complaining that someone else is the company favourite and there's a conspiracy against him, is closing a PPV in a non-title match with nothing on the line. Wonder why that angle isn't over.

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UInstinctGogeta
05/07/18 12:39:21 AM
#394:


scarletspeed7 posted...
It's his third year. So in WWE logic he is I his third year as a wrestler.


Ok
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TheRock1525
05/07/18 12:39:47 AM
#395:


@Steiner

He's not leaving.
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Strife2
05/07/18 12:41:42 AM
#396:


My reaction to Backlash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw" data-time="

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Solioxrz362
05/07/18 12:45:16 AM
#397:


man it sucks clicking on the little blue dot thing to see what the new post is, and then it doesn't take me to the new post because I have MWC ignored and he's the new post

does anyone else relate
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Jakyl25
05/07/18 12:48:39 AM
#398:


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/993325834046881792?s=21

Dave says tonight was an experiment.

I like the response that says it must be an MST3K experiment and we are all Joel and the Bots
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Strife2
05/07/18 12:51:31 AM
#399:


Solioxrz362 posted...
man it sucks clicking on the little blue dot thing to see what the new post is, and then it doesn't take me to the new post because I have MWC ignored and he's the new post

does anyone else relate


Yes...
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TheRock1525
05/07/18 1:03:57 AM
#400:


Has a WWE match ever ended in a double nut kick 10 count?
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