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AzurexNightmare 04/27/18 12:17:12 AM #1:	Definitely happened in ps3/360 era. What triggered it? Even the Japanese started fucking up and their games got worse. I love western games but it seems to have made things worse in general. Aside from fallout and elder scrolls. --- PSN: xLionhartx Vita games most played: BlazBlue CP, RO Ace, Mon Monpiece, Wipeout 2048 <cite>AzurexNightmare posted [p:900377351] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Definitely happened in ps3/360 era. What triggered it? Even the Japanese started fucking up and their games got worse. I love western games but it seems to have made things worse in general. Aside from fallout and elder scrolls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 04/27/18 12:19:31 AM #2:	People got tired of turn based RPGs --- https://i.imgur.com/rPJnWhf.jpg <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:900377463] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>People got tired of turn based RPGs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_cajun88 04/27/18 12:20:58 AM #3:	white people --- http://i.imgur.com/OkvDFD3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/owvpCYR.jpg <cite>the_cajun88 posted [p:900377535] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>white people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/27/18 12:25:35 AM #4:	I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:900377764] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 04/27/18 12:34:50 AM #5:	Increasing development costs are probably the main factor. Harder to turn a profit if youre just catering to the weeaboo crowd <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:900378154] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Increasing development costs are probably the main factor. Harder to turn a profit if youre just catering to the weeaboo crowd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 04/27/18 12:45:27 AM #6:	PS2 was so inundated with JRPGs and general Japanese media that when Western devs put together decent to good offerings in the early PS3/360 people fell in love just because it was something... Well, tangibly different on a gameplay perspective. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:900378628] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>PS2 was so inundated with JRPGs and general Japanese media that when Western devs put together decent to good offerings in the early PS3/360 people fell in love just because it was something... Well, tangibly different on a gameplay perspective.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/27/18 1:02:38 AM #7:	PC probably. every platform had their niches, then the xbox came along and MS focused on developing games for console as well as bringing more and more PC developers into the mix like bethesda/bungie/epic/bioware. the combination of a proper(paid) online console service along with one of the biggest PC genres culminated into the dudebro era of gaming with the 360. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:900379337] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>PC probably. every platform had their niches, then the xbox came along and MS focused on developing games for console as well as bringing more and more PC developers into the mix like bethesda/bungie/epic/bioware. the combination of a proper(paid) online console service along with one of the biggest PC genres culminated into the dudebro era of gaming with the 360.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 04/27/18 1:03:30 AM #8:	Japan stopped making games --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:900379366] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Japan stopped making games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 04/27/18 1:04:55 AM #9:	People got tired of single player RPGs. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:900379430] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>People got tired of single player RPGs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Buzz Killjoy 04/27/18 1:08:01 AM #10:	Dash_Harber posted... I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games. --- *Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?* <cite>Buzz Killjoy posted [p:900379540] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 04/27/18 1:11:17 AM #11:	Buzz Killjoy posted... Dash_Harber posted... I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games. Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus --- http://i.imgur.com/HOLHd4k.gif http://i.imgur.com/six2WTN.gif <cite>Frolex posted [p:900379670] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Buzz Killjoy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games.</quote></quote> Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Second_Chances 04/27/18 1:11:58 AM #12:	budget inflation killed the Japanese market <cite>Second_Chances posted [p:900379704] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>budget inflation killed the Japanese market</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 04/27/18 1:16:06 AM #13:	AsucaHayashi posted... PC probably. every platform had their niches, then the xbox came along and MS focused on developing games for console as well as bringing more and more PC developers into the mix like bethesda/bungie/epic/bioware. the combination of a proper(paid) online console service along with one of the biggest PC genres culminated into the dudebro era of gaming with the 360. Bethesda made Nes and PS1 games long before Xbox. Bioware had console ported MDK2 long before their first Xbox game. Epic games had already released console ports of UT. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:900379863] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsucaHayashi posted...</cite> <quote>PC probably. every platform had their niches, then the xbox came along and MS focused on developing games for console as well as bringing more and more PC developers into the mix like bethesda/bungie/epic/bioware. the combination of a proper(paid) online console service along with one of the biggest PC genres culminated into the dudebro era of gaming with the 360.</quote> Bethesda made Nes and PS1 games long before Xbox. Bioware had console ported MDK2 long before their first Xbox game. Epic games had already released console ports of UT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/27/18 7:40:04 AM #14:	Foppe posted... Bethesda made Nes and PS1 games long before Xbox. Bioware had console ported MDK2 long before their first Xbox game. Epic games had already released console ports of UT. ok? blizzard had the lost vikings and diablo 1/warcraft 2 on console, valve ported HL to ps2 etc. etc. that doesn't really make them any less PC devs though and didn't really say any of the devs were "first time console devs" either. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:900389413] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda made Nes and PS1 games long before Xbox. Bioware had console ported MDK2 long before their first Xbox game. Epic games had already released console ports of UT.</quote> ok? blizzard had the lost vikings and diablo 1/warcraft 2 on console, valve ported HL to ps2 etc. etc. that doesn't really make them any less PC devs though and didn't really say any of the devs were "first time console devs" either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 04/27/18 7:51:06 AM #15:	So they were multiplatform developers instead of PC devs. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:900389667] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>So they were multiplatform developers instead of PC devs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 04/27/18 7:56:17 AM #16:	with that type of mentality are there even any console devs anymore or is every developer/publisher multiplatform? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:900389799] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>with that type of mentality are there even any console devs anymore or is every developer/publisher multiplatform?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 04/27/18 8:02:07 AM #17:	gamer167 posted... People got tired of single player RPGs. Lol wat --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:900389925] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamer167 posted...</cite> <quote>People got tired of single player RPGs.</quote> Lol wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 04/27/18 8:06:39 AM #18:	Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias. --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:900390028] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/27/18 8:08:57 AM #19:	apolloooo posted... Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:900390087] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 04/27/18 8:09:40 AM #20:	apolloooo posted... Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias. Original? Complex? Uhhh...what? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:900390107] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias.</quote> Original? Complex? Uhhh...what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 04/27/18 8:09:59 AM #21:	I'd say Resident Evil 4 strangely enough, even though it's a Japanese developed game. (Also, fantastic) --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:900390114] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>I'd say Resident Evil 4 strangely enough, even though it's a Japanese developed game. (Also, fantastic)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 04/27/18 8:29:00 AM #22:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... apolloooo posted... Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias. Original? Complex? Uhhh...what? lol ignoramus from ultima to fallout 1/2 to arcanum are one of the most complex, thought provoking and original RPGs ever made. ultima underworld, and the ultima series in general give birth to classics like thief, deus ex, system shock wolfenstein 3D, doom, etc also basically invented a genre don't forget the europeans creating masterpieces like gothic, stalker, etc. hell, wizardry is literally the foundation of ALL JPRG ever made. i love japanese games equally, and japan is a treasure trove of daring, creative games too, but saying the western gaming culture only encapsulates and revolve around CoD, battlefield, PUBG crap are offensive, ignorant and downright stupid. --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:900390607] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>apolloooo posted...</cite> <quote>Dont use the term westernization to describe general mass marketing amd catering to the lowest common demoninator because classic western games have unique soul and identity enriched with complete set of complex mechanics and original ideas before mainstream market fucked up everything. Tldr: majority of people are idiots and the hand of capitalism automatically steer trends towards idiot-friendly ing our medias.</quote> Original? Complex? Uhhh...what?</quote> lol ignoramus from ultima to fallout 1/2 to arcanum are one of the most complex, thought provoking and original RPGs ever made. ultima underworld, and the ultima series in general give birth to classics like thief, deus ex, system shock wolfenstein 3D, doom, etc also basically invented a genre don't forget the europeans creating masterpieces like gothic, stalker, etc. hell, wizardry is literally the foundation of ALL JPRG ever made. i love japanese games equally, and japan is a treasure trove of daring, creative games too, but saying the western gaming culture only encapsulates and revolve around CoD, battlefield, PUBG crap are offensive, ignorant and downright stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/27/18 8:30:17 AM #23:	apollo don't be too mad. his balls dropped years after those games come out --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:900390636] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>apollo don't be too mad. his balls dropped years after those games come out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/27/18 10:32:08 AM #24:	Custer's Revenge. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:900395109] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Custer's Revenge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 04/27/18 10:40:08 AM #25:	i think it had to do with the xbox, and the 360 especially, making PC gaming (which was western game dominated) more accessible to the masses, which brought in a new audience of gamers that gradually made japanese games more and more irrelevant --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:900395424] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>i think it had to do with the xbox, and the 360 especially, making PC gaming (which was western game dominated) more accessible to the masses, which brought in a new audience of gamers that gradually made japanese games more and more irrelevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/27/18 10:42:43 AM #26:	AzurexNightmare posted... I love western games but it seems to have made things worse in general. Aside from fallout and elder scrolls. I kind of disagree. I do like those series but the control is terrible. I'm not even talking glitches. I mean, like, you're walking up a hill and you suddenly stop, then you jump a few times and you can keep going. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:900395517] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>AzurexNightmare posted...</cite> <quote>I love western games but it seems to have made things worse in general. Aside from fallout and elder scrolls.</quote> I kind of disagree. I do like those series but the control is terrible. I'm not even talking glitches. I mean, like, you're walking up a hill and you suddenly stop, then you jump a few times and you can keep going.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 04/27/18 10:43:59 AM #27:	You're right it started around the PS3/360 era. Because that was the time consoles got "good enough" that more PC devs were able to port their games over to it and make games with them in mind. Western games have always dominated the PCs but before the seventh gen, their presence was very limited in the console arena. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:900395583] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>You're right it started around the PS3/360 era. Because that was the time consoles got "good enough" that more PC devs were able to port their games over to it and make games with them in mind. Western games have always dominated the PCs but before the seventh gen, their presence was very limited in the console arena.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 04/27/18 10:44:46 AM #28:	Frolex posted... Buzz Killjoy posted... Dash_Harber posted... I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games. Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus You forgot to add "but has the physical appearance of a 10 year old girl" <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:900395616] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Buzz Killjoy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games.</quote></quote> Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus</quote> You forgot to add "but has the physical appearance of a 10 year old girl"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 04/27/18 10:50:57 AM #29:	Tsukasa1891 posted... Frolex posted... Buzz Killjoy posted... Dash_Harber posted... I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games. Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus You forgot to add "but has the physical appearance of a 10 year old girl" So "western" games are just not anime games? And not something more complex? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:900395861] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tsukasa1891 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Frolex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Buzz Killjoy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I have no idea what you mean by 'westernization' in games.</quote></quote> Not enough "actually a 1000 year old demon" waifus</quote> You forgot to add "but has the physical appearance of a 10 year old girl"</quote>So "western" games are just not anime games? And not something more complex?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spidey5 04/27/18 10:53:53 AM #30:	Western games lost their appeal around the ps3/xbox360 generation. Indies are more interesting nowadays. --- http://i.imgur.com/wfUGrp5.gif http://i.imgur.com/Sus70Yp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Alq6H7.gif http://i.imgur.com/cjVX1u8.png <cite>Spidey5 posted [p:900395962] in What start... [t:76556124]...</cite> <quote>Western games lost their appeal around the ps3/xbox360 generation. Indies are more interesting nowadays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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