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DarthAragorn 04/26/18 11:29:28 PM #51:	Deadpool_18 posted... What has he even been working on that he believes is so loved by his fans? A history book of Westeros Volume 1 of a history book that is. One more planned but we've seen how well he sticks to plans So sure we don't get a resolution to Brienne/Stonehearted/Jaime or Sam in the Citadel but by god Jim we get to find out where Dany's dragon eggs originated from --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:900374447] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>What has he even been working on that he believes is so loved by his fans?</quote> A history book of Westeros Volume 1 of a history book that is. One more planned but we've seen how well he sticks to plans So sure we don't get a resolution to Brienne/Stonehearted/Jaime or Sam in the Citadel but by god Jim we get to find out where Dany's dragon eggs originated from</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 04/26/18 11:34:56 PM #53:	DuranOfForcena posted... southcoast09 posted... People still follow that? I gave up when it became politicized huh? having main characters who are not male and white is extremely triggering to certain kinds of conservatives who believe stories are automatically political if they have any level of diversity at all --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:900374855] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>People still follow that? I gave up when it became politicized</quote> huh?</quote> having main characters who are not male and white is extremely triggering to certain kinds of conservatives who believe stories are automatically political if they have any level of diversity at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 04/26/18 11:44:04 PM #54:	voldothegr8 posted... Not even May yet lmao **ing this lol --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade http://i.imgur.com/MYYEIx5.gif http://i.imgur.com/WGE12ef.jpg <cite>solosnake posted [p:900375467] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Not even May yet lmao</quote> **ing this lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itachi157 04/27/18 12:33:18 AM #55:	I've always kind of kept an eye on the online ASOIAF community since I first got into the books (like around 2006) and before the show came out it was pretty popular to just hate on GRRM and make fun of him because he never released (at the time) Dance with Dragons. Then when the show came out he got a lot of new defenders, and a lot of people were citing that one article that says "GRRM is not your bitch", etc. I think a lot of these people just got into ASOIAF with the show. I just noticed a general trend toward defending George. People that criticized him got a lot of hate and overall I just think a lot of people were enamored with the series since they just got into it. Now that he's taking forever to come out with Winds of Winter the general community is turning against him again and I notice a lot more negativity again towards him online. I think the new fans are realizing what it is to wait for these books. <cite>Itachi157 posted [p:900378091] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>I've always kind of kept an eye on the online ASOIAF community since I first got into the books (like around 2006) and before the show came out it was pretty popular to just hate on GRRM and make fun of him because he never released (at the time) Dance with Dragons. Then when the show came out he got a lot of new defenders, and a lot of people were citing that one article that says "GRRM is not your bitch", etc. I think a lot of these people just got into ASOIAF with the show. I just noticed a general trend toward defending George. People that criticized him got a lot of hate and overall I just think a lot of people were enamored with the series since they just got into it. Now that he's taking forever to come out with Winds of Winter the general community is turning against him again and I notice a lot more negativity again towards him online. I think the new fans are realizing what it is to wait for these books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 04/27/18 12:36:47 AM #56:	People still respond to Iclockwork? You're better than this CE. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:900378247] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>People still respond to Iclockwork? You're better than this CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 04/27/18 12:40:46 AM #57:	I've disliked Neil Gaiman ever since that article --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:900378429] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>I've disliked Neil Gaiman ever since that article</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itachi157 04/27/18 12:56:26 AM #58:	If the last books ever come out (and that's a big if) I will probably just read spoilers anyway, and not actually read them. To really get the most out of them I will probably have to re-read the entire series (due to forgetting a lot of details), and that's not really something I'm willing to do with my interest having waned as much as it has. Plus I bet the show is going to show the ending years ahead anyway. Sure a lot of details will be different but the general end of the conflict will be the same. Just probably way dumbed down in the show. <cite>Itachi157 posted [p:900379098] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>If the last books ever come out (and that's a big if) I will probably just read spoilers anyway, and not actually read them. To really get the most out of them I will probably have to re-read the entire series (due to forgetting a lot of details), and that's not really something I'm willing to do with my interest having waned as much as it has. Plus I bet the show is going to show the ending years ahead anyway. Sure a lot of details will be different but the general end of the conflict will be the same. Just probably way dumbed down in the show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 04/27/18 12:58:02 AM #59:	Nothing of value was lost. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:900379164] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>Nothing of value was lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Itachi157 04/27/18 1:02:17 AM #60:	I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too. <cite>Itachi157 posted [p:900379324] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 04/27/18 1:06:49 AM #61:	Now is the perfect time to finish my novel and get it out there I already have the entire series outlined too --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:900379503] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>Now is the perfect time to finish my novel and get it out there I already have the entire series outlined too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gadgaurd 04/27/18 1:10:45 AM #62:	iClockwork posted... Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far. Gifted? People bought those. Those purchases funded his lifestyle. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/gadgaurd.png https://youtu.be/lUZhK1qs7AQ Yo dawg, I heard you like turn based combat. <cite>gadgaurd posted [p:900379652] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Be grateful for the story you've been gifted so far.</quote> Gifted? People bought those. Those purchases funded his lifestyle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 04/27/18 1:11:01 AM #63:	Now is the perfect time to finish my novel and get it out there I already have the entire series outlined too another patrick rothfuss eh --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:900379661] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><quote>Now is the perfect time to finish my novel and get it out there I already have the entire series outlined too</quote> another patrick rothfuss eh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 04/27/18 1:26:53 AM #64:	Itachi157 posted... I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too. Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:900380230] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>Itachi157 posted...</cite> <quote>I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too.</quote> Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LethalAffinity 04/27/18 1:28:48 AM #65:	Fuck this guy honestly. --- http://i.imgur.com/Sv19SP4.jpg http://i.imgur.com/esZpDkI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/tdtzIvW.gif http://i.imgur.com/E0O1koZ.gif <cite>LethalAffinity posted [p:900380307] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>Fuck this guy honestly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreshSushi 04/27/18 1:33:25 AM #66:	fat fuck is never going to release winds so whatever --- LoL: (Anivia, Sol), SF5: (Ryu) Top 5: RE4, Dark Souls, MMBN3, HK, Pokemon Yellow <cite>FreshSushi posted [p:900380485] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>fat fuck is never going to release winds so whatever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreshSushi 04/27/18 1:33:44 AM #67:	Ic3Bullet posted... Itachi157 posted... I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too. Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete. why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit --- LoL: (Anivia, Sol), SF5: (Ryu) Top 5: RE4, Dark Souls, MMBN3, HK, Pokemon Yellow <cite>FreshSushi posted [p:900380495] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Itachi157 posted...</cite> <quote>I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too.</quote> Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete.</quote> why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/27/18 1:34:36 AM #68:	FreshSushi posted... Ic3Bullet posted... Itachi157 posted... I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too. Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete. why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit Uh huh --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:900380533] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreshSushi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Itachi157 posted...</cite> <quote> I've been actually looking for a new fantasy series to read, I was looking into the Kingkiller saga or w/e it's called and people seem to rave about it, but apparently there's a GRRM situation going on with the author of those too. </quote> Read Mistborn. So good and the trilogy is already complete.</quote> why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit</quote> Uh huh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 04/27/18 1:38:56 AM #69:	I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth. --- Yoblazer http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:900380698] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCurseX2 04/27/18 1:44:14 AM #70:	CaptainOfCrush posted... I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth. He added in a shitload of bloat to his storylines after the third book that he now has to wrap up and find a way to have all these other characters introduced in that time find some sort of conclusion. Keep in mind the show has a much easier time since it has nowhere near the same amount of characters and a lot of minor characters have their personalities or direction 'absorbed' into bigger, more important characters. I maintain that the first three books were the stories he really wanted to tell and should've ended there. Everything after is being done for the money and the passion is simply not there anymore. --- As a Level 37 Sage, I expect to be treated with proper respect and acknowledged for my dedication to the GameFAQs Message Board Community as a whole. Thank you. <cite>TheCurseX2 posted [p:900380897] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth.</quote> He added in a shitload of bloat to his storylines after the third book that he now has to wrap up and find a way to have all these other characters introduced in that time find some sort of conclusion. Keep in mind the show has a much easier time since it has nowhere near the same amount of characters and a lot of minor characters have their personalities or direction 'absorbed' into bigger, more important characters. I maintain that the first three books were the stories he really wanted to tell and should've ended there. Everything after is being done for the money and the passion is simply not there anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 04/27/18 1:45:35 AM #71:	It kinda sucks that I can't recommend these books to anyone anymore, knowing that the story will forever be incomplete. I sure had a lot of fun reading them though, and the show is great. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:900380957] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>It kinda sucks that I can't recommend these books to anyone anymore, knowing that the story will forever be incomplete. I sure had a lot of fun reading them though, and the show is great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 04/27/18 1:48:00 AM #72:	CaptainOfCrush posted... I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth. there are 20 living point of view characters with dozens if not hundreds of side characters to keep track of spread across two continents that all have to converge at some point not to mention 20 years of prophecies, conspiracies, and foreshadowing that has to all come together coherently --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... when's sig emoji support thinking face emoji <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:900381052] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I don't know anything about Game of Thrones (books or show), so this might be a dumb-as-shit question, but are the first five books really SO complex that he'd have no idea how to end the story now? He must have written a damn labyrinth.</quote> there are 20 living point of view characters with dozens if not hundreds of side characters to keep track of spread across two continents that all have to converge at some point not to mention 20 years of prophecies, conspiracies, and foreshadowing that has to all come together coherently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 04/27/18 1:50:24 AM #73:	well at least the show ends next year so I'll live long enough to see how that plays out --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:900381119] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>well at least the show ends next year so I'll live long enough to see how that plays out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Re-iNcarnated 04/27/18 1:51:08 AM #74:	itt: nerds vs people who think they aren't nerds <cite>Re-iNcarnated posted [p:900381143] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>itt: nerds vs people who think they aren't nerds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 04/27/18 2:04:25 AM #75:	Ive basically made the conscious decision not to buy anything else he writes/publishes until he finishes and releases Winds. Like, I get that hes struggling with it, and that sucks, but Im not gonna settle for filler in the meantime. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:900381597] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>Ive basically made the conscious decision not to buy anything else he writes/publishes until he finishes and releases Winds. Like, I get that hes struggling with it, and that sucks, but Im not gonna settle for filler in the meantime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Burnt_Puke82 04/27/18 2:10:21 AM #76:	I've accepted a long time ago the series will go unfinished. I'd be happy just to get one more book, but I think that may not happen either. I've been looking forward to another First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie set to come out some time next year. The first Trilogy is so good and the stand alone books set in the same world are really good too. Anyone that likes the A Song of Ice and Fire series should really check those books out. --- You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try. <cite>Burnt_Puke82 posted [p:900381787] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote>I've accepted a long time ago the series will go unfinished. I'd be happy just to get one more book, but I think that may not happen either. I've been looking forward to another First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie set to come out some time next year. The first Trilogy is so good and the stand alone books set in the same world are really good too. Anyone that likes the A Song of Ice and Fire series should really check those books out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImNotAnIdiot 04/27/18 2:29:38 AM #77:	DuranOfForcena posted... they didn't stick to the books, so what exactly makes you think they stuck to whatever outline GRRM gave them? GRRM did say the ending would be the same in the books. Obviously there will be a lot of difference with how it gets there and with other characters. On another note, I remember reading since the release of the 3rd book he's been pretty notorious for writing a lot and then going back and scrapping/rewriting all of it. He talked about how he had a 5 year time jump planned in A Dance With Dragons. He had already had a lot of that written and then completely scrapped that idea. Who knows how many times he's done that with Winds. Also combined with just not writing at all and him focusing on his other projects. I can see why the years start to pile up with no release in sight. --- http://i.imgur.com/Q9XJftg.jpg <cite>ImNotAnIdiot posted [p:900382415] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't stick to the books, so what exactly makes you think they stuck to whatever outline GRRM gave them?</quote> GRRM did say the ending would be the same in the books. Obviously there will be a lot of difference with how it gets there and with other characters. On another note, I remember reading since the release of the 3rd book he's been pretty notorious for writing a lot and then going back and scrapping/rewriting all of it. He talked about how he had a 5 year time jump planned in A Dance With Dragons. He had already had a lot of that written and then completely scrapped that idea. Who knows how many times he's done that with Winds. Also combined with just not writing at all and him focusing on his other projects. I can see why the years start to pile up with no release in sight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 04/27/18 4:16:17 AM #78:	FreshSushi posted... why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit Vin and Kelsier are both extremely well written. I don't know why you would think otherwise. I can tell you all kinds of things things about their personality, including their body language, and I can tell you exactly how Kelsier will sit down in a chair whenever he's about to say something important. It's like I've met and known these characters. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:900385198] in George RR ... [t:76555725]...</cite> <quote><cite>FreshSushi posted...</cite> <quote>why are you lying, sanderson can't write characters for shit</quote> Vin and Kelsier are both extremely well written. I don't know why you would think otherwise. I can tell you all kinds of things things about their personality, including their body language, and I can tell you exactly how Kelsier will sit down in a chair whenever he's about to say something important. It's like I've met and known these characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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