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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:31:20 PM
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I keep hearing this.
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fan357
02/18/18 11:31:49 PM
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Gays are going to destroy America or something.
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byrone
02/18/18 11:32:36 PM
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Because Starbucks didn't put a crucified Jesus on their holiday cups.
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:32:56 PM
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byrone posted...
Because Starbucks didn't put a crucified Jesus on their holiday cups.

the horror.
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DarkChozoGhost
02/18/18 11:33:30 PM
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People will call you an asshole if you say you don't agree with their right to live.
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A_Good_Boy
02/18/18 11:34:48 PM
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Because people think conversion therapy is wrong.
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:40:01 PM
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This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.

https://youtu.be/OpdGK3F4pC0?t=41
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AvantgardeAClue
02/18/18 11:41:01 PM
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I find Christians to be such an easy target because outside of blatantly racist groups they're not inherently antagonistic.
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 11:42:13 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:43:57 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.


Sure that's great. Yes more than them. It's completely socially sanctified for Christians to be lambasted on TELEVISION and it happens regularly. I'm not gonna "be quiet" because you disagree, sorry boy.
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:45:54 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.


Sure that's great. Yes more than them. It's completely socially sanctified for Christians to be lambasted on TELEVISION and it happens regularly. I'm not gonna "be quiet" because you disagree, sorry boy.

yeah. i totally believe you aren't a christian.

have you ever wondered why Christians are lambasted?
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:48:26 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.


Sure that's great. Yes more than them. It's completely socially sanctified for Christians to be lambasted on TELEVISION and it happens regularly. I'm not gonna "be quiet" because you disagree, sorry boy.

yeah. i totally believe you aren't a christian.

have you ever wondered why Christians are lambasted?


I'm not a Christian and no Christian would ever say they're not a Christian... It's literally blasphemous.

You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/18/18 11:48:40 PM
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They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not also a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 11:49:45 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.


Sure that's great. Yes more than them. It's completely socially sanctified for Christians to be lambasted on TELEVISION and it happens regularly. I'm not gonna "be quiet" because you disagree, sorry boy.


oh no getting insulting on tv talk to me again when they get targeted for hate crimes in america like muslims and jews.
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:50:57 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.

why do we make fun of Nazis and KKK?

same shit really
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southcoast09
02/18/18 11:52:04 PM
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Its basically open season to discriminate against us. You can openly mock us (the sites moderators will allow it here), while the same level of mockery about Islam or Judaism will get you suspended. Instantly.

So, theres really some inbalanced rulings made. The Supreme Court hearing was huge, though. That ended one of the main forms of systematic inequality. If youre not going to force ONE religion to violate its beliefs, then youre not going to force ANY religion to violate its beliefs even if that contradicts the progressives (who are no longer in power).
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:52:39 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.


Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there.

Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.
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iClockwork
02/18/18 11:54:04 PM
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Each new legal challenge to religious liberty at the state and federal levels is eating away at their sovereignty. Persecution can be shown through judiciary means, not only physically
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:54:32 PM
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the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"
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Prestoff
02/18/18 11:54:48 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
This thread is an example. Theres this straw-man Christian that all of the people in this thread are angry at. It's not fair, Christians (I'm not one) suffer far more antagonisms on television and I believe in social situations than other religious groups.


More than Muslims and Jews?

LMAO no. Be quiet.


Sure that's great. Yes more than them. It's completely socially sanctified for Christians to be lambasted on TELEVISION and it happens regularly. I'm not gonna "be quiet" because you disagree, sorry boy.

yeah. i totally believe you aren't a christian.

have you ever wondered why Christians are lambasted?


I'm not a Christian and no Christian would ever say they're not a Christian... It's literally blasphemous.

You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.


Because in America, there is more Christians than there are Muslims or Jews. When you're the majority, you're going to get the most flak compared to the minority groups. So no, Christians in America are not being persecuted, but outside of America (and especially in third world countries where Christianity is a minority) Christians are absolutely getting persecuted. In terms of persecution in America, there is no religion that is getting persecuted.
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:55:06 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.

why do we make fun of Nazis and KKK?

same shit really


You made my point.
You've just allegorized Nazis with Christians.
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billcom6
02/18/18 11:55:18 PM
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We aren't anymore, we can say MERRY CHRISTMAS again!!!! THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!
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Garioshi
02/18/18 11:55:44 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
I believe

doesn't mean shit
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:55:46 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.

why do we make fun of Nazis and KKK?

same shit really


You made my point.
You've just allegorized Nazis with Christians.

I mean they are not as bad as nazis. but the KKK comparison is spot on.
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:56:30 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"


Do you understand the hypocrisy? Do you know what the proper treatment of a homosexual is in other select religious groups that you dare not insult?
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:56:50 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.

why do we make fun of Nazis and KKK?

same shit really


You made my point.
You've just allegorized Nazis with Christians.

I mean they are not as bad as nazis. but the KKK comparison is spot on.


You're an intellectual midget.
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:57:37 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"


Do you understand the hypocrisy? Do you know what the proper treatment of a homosexual is in other select religious groups that you dare not insult?

deflection to Islam.

the Christian apologists only argument.

"b-b-but muslims"

ignore all the evil shit Christians do in America and focus on people halfway across the world...
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ilovuuu
02/18/18 11:57:51 PM
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Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
You tell me why they're lambasted? Why are Christians as a whole, lambasted? You begged the question, so do tell me.

why do we make fun of Nazis and KKK?

same shit really


You made my point.
You've just allegorized Nazis with Christians.

I mean they are not as bad as nazis. but the KKK comparison is spot on.


You're an intellectual midget.

I'm not the christian.
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:58:04 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
I believe

doesn't mean shit


You really wanted that to be profound didn't you?
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Very_Unreliable
02/18/18 11:59:33 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"


Do you understand the hypocrisy? Do you know what the proper treatment of a homosexual is in other select religious groups that you dare not insult?

deflection to Islam.

the Christian apologists only argument.

"b-b-but muslims"

ignore all the evil shit Christians do in America and focus on people halfway across the world...


Wait... Did you just suggest Muslims don't live in the US?
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/19/18 12:00:23 AM
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@Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.


Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there.

Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us?

Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. And theyre trying to force this on everyone else through laws. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back.
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:01:20 AM
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This thread is just a perfect example. It is complete and utter irony.

The TC has thoroughly expressed a dislike for Christians, and ladened his posts with generalizations and wildly offensive comparisons, that would NOT be tolerated if it were directed toward any other religious group.
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ilovuuu
02/19/18 12:02:32 AM
#35:


Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"


Do you understand the hypocrisy? Do you know what the proper treatment of a homosexual is in other select religious groups that you dare not insult?

deflection to Islam.

the Christian apologists only argument.

"b-b-but muslims"

ignore all the evil shit Christians do in America and focus on people halfway across the world...


Wait... Did you just suggest Muslims don't live in the US?

1 percent of the population of the US is Muslim and they are less anti-gay than our evangelicals.
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:04:27 AM
#36:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.


Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there.

Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us?

Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back.

"Christians want"
"your kind"

These are generalizations that would be socially intolerable if directed elsewhere. Christianity is one of the most (if not the most) factionalized religions ever; Catholics vote overwhelmingly democrat, and honestly the fact is with each post my point is being made more evident.

I'm not Christian btw, not everyone who reasonably defends this point of view is going to be Christian.
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:07:12 AM
#37:


ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
ilovuuu posted...
the victim complex is insane.

"I don't get to bully gays and now people are standing up to me"

"it's CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION"


Do you understand the hypocrisy? Do you know what the proper treatment of a homosexual is in other select religious groups that you dare not insult?

deflection to Islam.

the Christian apologists only argument.

"b-b-but muslims"

ignore all the evil shit Christians do in America and focus on people halfway across the world...


Wait... Did you just suggest Muslims don't live in the US?

1 percent of the population of the US is Muslim and they are less anti-gay than our evangelicals.


So to you; Evangelical or Jehova's witnesses = Christianity and all Christians.

Because; frankly man, you couldn't have picked a smaller sample if you tried.
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ilovuuu
02/19/18 12:07:16 AM
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"people are saying mean things about Christians bawwww"

"suck it up liberals Trump says mean things"

why nobody likes Christians
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ThanksUglyGod
02/19/18 12:08:22 AM
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It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian.
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:08:36 AM
#40:


ilovuuu posted...
"people are saying mean things about Christians bawwww"

"suck it up liberals Trump says mean things"

why nobody likes Christians


Just replace some nouns in there and you'll get suspended. Very quickly.
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Prestoff
02/19/18 12:09:09 AM
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Yeah I think some of you guys are being very disingenuous when you keep on generalizing Christians like that. The only ones pushing these hardcore stuff like banning gay marriage and teaching creationism as science instead of evolution are usually the hardcore evangelicals.

With that said, Very_Unreliable getting made fun of is not the same as getting persecuted. I personally don't believe any religion is getting persecuted in America as we have laws that protect citizens right to their belief.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/19/18 12:09:27 AM
#42:


Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.


Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there.

Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us?

Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back.

"Christians want"
"your kind"

These are generalizations that would be socially intolerable if directed elsewhere. Christianity is one of the most (if not the most) factionalized religions ever; Catholics vote overwhelmingly democrat, and honestly the fact is with each post my point is being made more evident.

I'm not Christian btw, not everyone who reasonably defends this point of view is going to be Christian.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better, I guess. Youd have to be delusional to claim that a majority of Christians wouldnt be in favor of any of the things I mentioned.

Despite plenty of vocal opponents, Christians are absolutely catered to more than any other large group in America. This persecution complex is fucking ridiculous.
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ilovuuu
02/19/18 12:09:54 AM
#43:


president wants to ban muslims?

"it's the Christians being persecuted!!!!!!11"
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:09:59 AM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian.


I was too; that doesn't make the mainstream sanctification of their ridicule okay, unless that is held for everyone likewise.
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:10:16 AM
#45:


ilovuuu posted...
president wants to ban muslims?

"it's the Christians being persecuted!!!!!!11"


That's false though.
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ilovuuu
02/19/18 12:12:43 AM
#46:


"gays can get married"

"it's the end of america"
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Gamer99z
02/19/18 12:13:15 AM
#47:


It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone.

Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property!
Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday!
Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools!
What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay?
Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion!
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ilovuuu
02/19/18 12:13:17 AM
#48:


"we need MORE family values in america"

*votes for Trump and Roy Moore*
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Very_Unreliable
02/19/18 12:14:24 AM
#49:


0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.


Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there.

Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us?

Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back.

"Christians want"
"your kind"

These are generalizations that would be socially intolerable if directed elsewhere. Christianity is one of the most (if not the most) factionalized religions ever; Catholics vote overwhelmingly democrat, and honestly the fact is with each post my point is being made more evident.

I'm not Christian btw, not everyone who reasonably defends this point of view is going to be Christian.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better, I guess. Youd have to be delusional to claim that a vast majority of Christians wouldnt be in favor of any of the things I mentioned.

Despite plenty of vocal opponents, Christians are absolutely catered to more than any other large group in America. This persecution complex is fucking ridiculous.

No no no no no no.

Address the very factual point I made. You've made a couple of nebulous statements which is very typical of someone who is /wrong/. Catered to how? You qualified the statement with my point, making my point, plenty of vocal opponents; vocal opponents on TV regularly, however vocal opponents of for example Judaism would never be tolerated. Generalizations that you've made repeatedly, would NEVER be tolerated like I said. You have a chip on your shoulder w regards to Christianity and that's why you can't be reasoned with.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/19/18 12:15:14 AM
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Gamer99z posted...
It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone.

Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property!
Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday!
Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools!
What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay?
Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion!

This, so much. Its absurd that Christians can take things like these and twist it into them being persecuted. Well said, Gamer.
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