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DarthAragorn 02/18/18 10:28:18 PM #51:	Yeah dark and gritty superhero movies absolutely have a place, they just can't be dogshit --- A thousand eyes, and one. <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:896343648] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Yeah dark and gritty superhero movies absolutely have a place, they just can't be dogshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 10:28:39 PM #52:	Tyranthraxus posted... _MorningStar posted... People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. Logan pretty much disproves that. The difference with Logan (and the Nolan Batman movies) is that these movies still have heart. People still like these characters. I think BvS being so damn cynical really soured that franchise for people. The secret formula for a great superhero movie is getting characters people care about. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896343664] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> Logan pretty much disproves that.</quote> The difference with Logan (and the Nolan Batman movies) is that these movies still have heart. People still like these characters. I think BvS being so damn cynical really soured that franchise for people. The secret formula for a great superhero movie is getting characters people care about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 02/18/18 10:29:23 PM #53:	DezDroppedFreak posted... Like obviously some people don't like it, but some of that is bloated as well Rotten Tomatoes said they'd address that. There's also probably fake 5 star reviews as well, which, I suspect they aren't paying much attention to. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:896343699] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>Like obviously some people don't like it, but some of that is bloated as well</quote> Rotten Tomatoes said they'd address that. There's also probably fake 5 star reviews as well, which, I suspect they aren't paying much attention to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 10:30:36 PM #54:	Tyranthraxus posted... _MorningStar posted... People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. Logan pretty much disproves that. Fair enough. I think the R rating(thanks to the success of Deadpool) and the fact that everyone knew it was Jackman and Stewart's last performances helped a bit. Notice, after the initial push, the hype died down considerably for the movie. (Its still a fantastic movie btw) --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896343773] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> Logan pretty much disproves that.</quote> Fair enough. I think the R rating(thanks to the success of Deadpool) and the fact that everyone knew it was Jackman and Stewart's last performances helped a bit. Notice, after the initial push, the hype died down considerably for the movie. (Its still a fantastic movie btw)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/18/18 10:30:45 PM #55:	Dark and gritty wasn't the problem with the DCU films. The problem was terrible narrative structure and poor characterization. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896343781] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Dark and gritty wasn't the problem with the DCU films. The problem was terrible narrative structure and poor characterization.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 02/18/18 10:31:41 PM #56:	Reminds me of this one post I saw around when JL came out BvS and Suicide Squad are released Critics: "The plot is a mess, the effects are bad, the editing is awful, and the characters don't make sense" WB: "Okay we made the characters funnier and gave the movie a lighter tone!" JL is released Critics: "The plot is a mess, the effects are bad, the editing is awful, and the characters don't make sense" --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:896343836] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Reminds me of this one post I saw around when JL came out BvS and Suicide Squad are released Critics: "The plot is a mess, the effects are bad, the editing is awful, and the characters don't make sense" WB: "Okay we made the characters funnier and gave the movie a lighter tone!" JL is released Critics: "The plot is a mess, the effects are bad, the editing is awful, and the characters don't make sense"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 02/18/18 10:31:44 PM #57:	_MorningStar posted... Capn Circus posted... _MorningStar posted... Capn Circus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Justice League sucked ass though. Black Panther is a solid superhero movie with an antagonist that actually has some depth And Black Panther already has the same movie-goer score as Justice League on Rotten Tomatoes. There's nothing special about Black Panther other than people who only care about race. Except it is going to out gross it. A super hero stand alone film is going to out perform a TEAM UP MOVIE. The first every big screen imagining of arguably comics greatest team of super heroes. Because it was hyped into oblivion. There's people going to see this movie that have no interest in super hero movies just because of it's "status" And JL wasn't hyped into oblivion? WB spent close to 100 million on the marketing. Had BvS not been so maligned it might have done better. But don't blame just that, WW came after and was universally praised and was more successful than JL with only a fraction of the budget. People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. You may have a point, but for someone who doesn't watch many movies.. I can say "Black Panther" is one of the few movies I've heard about that were supposedly going to be really big hits, or must sees. The last one I heard about was "IT" --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:896343837] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>Justice League sucked ass though. Black Panther is a solid superhero movie with an antagonist that actually has some depth</quote> And Black Panther already has the same movie-goer score as Justice League on Rotten Tomatoes. There's nothing special about Black Panther other than people who only care about race.</quote> Except it is going to out gross it. A super hero stand alone film is going to out perform a TEAM UP MOVIE. The first every big screen imagining of arguably comics greatest team of super heroes.</quote> Because it was hyped into oblivion. There's people going to see this movie that have no interest in super hero movies just because of it's "status"</quote> And JL wasn't hyped into oblivion? WB spent close to 100 million on the marketing. Had BvS not been so maligned it might have done better. But don't blame just that, WW came after and was universally praised and was more successful than JL with only a fraction of the budget. People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> You may have a point, but for someone who doesn't watch many movies.. I can say "Black Panther" is one of the few movies I've heard about that were supposedly going to be really big hits, or must sees. The last one I heard about was "IT"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 10:37:09 PM #58:	Capn Circus posted... You may have a point, but for someone who doesn't watch many movies.. I can say "Black Panther" is one of the few movies I've heard about that were supposedly going to be really big hits, or must sees. The last one I heard about was "IT" There's a certain point where high expectations need to have a pay off. IT and Black Panther did when they got good reviews. Then they got good word of mouth. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896344134] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote>You may have a point, but for someone who doesn't watch many movies.. I can say "Black Panther" is one of the few movies I've heard about that were supposedly going to be really big hits, or must sees. The last one I heard about was "IT"</quote> There's a certain point where high expectations need to have a pay off. IT and Black Panther did when they got good reviews. Then they got good word of mouth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/18/18 10:38:12 PM #59:	One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though This is about Black Panther --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:896344193] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though This is about Black Panther</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:39:52 PM #60:	DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344269] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/18/18 10:40:13 PM #61:	Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896344282] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/18/18 10:40:43 PM #62:	Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated I was talking about Black Panther lol --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:896344310] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> I was talking about Black Panther lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:42:29 PM #63:	Dragonblade01 posted... Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns. You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344413] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns.</quote> You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 02/18/18 10:43:17 PM #64:	It isnt crazy at all when you acknowledge that JL was complete trash. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:896344459] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>It isnt crazy at all when you acknowledge that JL was complete trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:43:35 PM #65:	DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated I was talking about Black Panther lol Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344482] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> I was talking about Black Panther lol</quote> Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 10:44:37 PM #66:	Deadpool_18 posted... It isnt crazy at all when you acknowledge that JL was complete trash. It really wasn't that long ago when trash blockbusters succeeded more than good ones because of brand name. Transformers for example. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896344520] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote>It isnt crazy at all when you acknowledge that JL was complete trash.</quote> It really wasn't that long ago when trash blockbusters succeeded more than good ones because of brand name. Transformers for example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 10:45:13 PM #67:	Tyranthraxus posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns. You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time. This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896344549] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns.</quote> You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time.</quote> This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/18/18 10:48:38 PM #68:	Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated I was talking about Black Panther lol Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem? I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:896344724] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> I was talking about Black Panther lol</quote> Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem?</quote> I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 02/18/18 10:50:00 PM #69:	_MorningStar posted... And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head. I remember seeing an interview on some late night show where he basically takes credit for the MCU Can't blame him tbh --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:896344798] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head.</quote> I remember seeing an interview on some late night show where he basically takes credit for the MCU Can't blame him tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 10:50:34 PM #70:	_MorningStar posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns. You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time. This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head. As much as people complain about the licensing deals Marvel made with Fox and Sony we probably wouldn't have Marvel Studios without them too. Seems to be working out well in the long run anyway. Pretty crazy how well they've done and how many they've since got back. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896344822] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns.</quote> You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time.</quote> This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head.</quote> As much as people complain about the licensing deals Marvel made with Fox and Sony we probably wouldn't have Marvel Studios without them too. Seems to be working out well in the long run anyway. Pretty crazy how well they've done and how many they've since got back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/18/18 10:51:00 PM #71:	The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896344844] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:52:33 PM #72:	DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated I was talking about Black Panther lol Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem? I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344928] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> I was talking about Black Panther lol</quote> Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem?</quote> I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint</quote> The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 02/18/18 10:56:24 PM #73:	Tyranthraxus posted... The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson A lot of people have complained about that from the moment he was revealed so it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel went back and touched him up a bunch. And gave him his fucking hat. --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:896345118] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson</quote> A lot of people have complained about that from the moment he was revealed so it wouldn't surprise me if Marvel went back and touched him up a bunch. And gave him his fucking hat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 10:56:29 PM #74:	Dragonblade01 posted... The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation. Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896345124] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation.</quote> Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 10:56:50 PM #75:	Darmik posted... _MorningStar posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns. You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time. This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head. As much as people complain about the licensing deals Marvel made with Fox and Sony we probably wouldn't have Marvel Studios without them too. Seems to be working out well in the long run anyway. Pretty crazy how well they've done and how many they've since got back. I will be the first to admit I was clamoring for the X-Men and Spiderman to be in the MCU since the first Avengers. I have always hated the FF. Just me personally. But we might have never gotten GoG or even BP . Or they would have taken first priority. And I'm thankful for that. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896345150] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther has been a great character with a great origin/setting and arch-nemesis in the comics, so it really isn't surprising that his solo film is pretty good. The biggest problem was that he rarely left the comics and never really got into the public conscious. Fortunately, the MCU has always been good at marketing campaigns.</quote> You know. Not having access to X-Men, F4, and Spider-Man I think did them good in the long-run as it forced them to use more of their obscure characters instead of rehashing "Galactus attacks!" For the 500th time.</quote> This is actually a fantastic point. I don't think the MCU could have made it to where they are if they had those 3 properties all along. It forces them to think outside the box. And let's be honest, it probably would be RDJ playing Iron man, and it wouldn't have worked. God they owe that old coke head.</quote> As much as people complain about the licensing deals Marvel made with Fox and Sony we probably wouldn't have Marvel Studios without them too. Seems to be working out well in the long run anyway. Pretty crazy how well they've done and how many they've since got back.</quote> I will be the first to admit I was clamoring for the X-Men and Spiderman to be in the MCU since the first Avengers. I have always hated the FF. Just me personally. But we might have never gotten GoG or even BP . Or they would have taken first priority. And I'm thankful for that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/18/18 10:58:15 PM #76:	Darmik posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation. Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint. Swashbuckling Aquaman sounds weird, but I guess it could work? I certainly hope it's closer to WW than BvS/JL. Although, if I'm being honest, I don't really think WW was all that great either, just much better by comparison. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896345223] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation.</quote> Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint.</quote> Swashbuckling Aquaman sounds weird, but I guess it could work? I certainly hope it's closer to WW than BvS/JL. Although, if I'm being honest, I don't really think WW was all that great either, just much better by comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 10:58:53 PM #77:	Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... Tyranthraxus posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated I was talking about Black Panther lol Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem? I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson The CGI looks amazing, but god damn Thanos looks awful. How that made it off the cutting room floor is beyond me. We have waited 10 years for this shit. Don't do that to us. I'm sure the movie is still going to be great, but that is going to bother me the whole time. HE HAD THE HAT ON IN ALL THE POST CREDIT SCENES WHHHHYYYYYY --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896345256] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote>One thing I will say is the CGI is kind of off which for a $200 million budget is disappointing I loved everything else though</quote> The CGI is fucking great and the mustache problems are overexaggerated</quote> I was talking about Black Panther lol</quote> Oh, the CGI was great there, too. Not sure what you're talking about. Was there a specific problem?</quote> I can't pinpoint a specific issue but the final battle sequence felt off, but I've felt that way about the last few Marvel movies, particularly Ragnarok and Hulk in that film. I mean it's kind of a minor complaint</quote> The CGI for Thanos in Infinity War looks really bad. Like, it's really bizarre because they did a pretty good job in the Stingers and then suddenly shit the bed in the most important movie. He looks like Hit from DBS or a fucking purple Homer simpson</quote> The CGI looks amazing, but god damn Thanos looks awful. How that made it off the cutting room floor is beyond me. We have waited 10 years for this shit. Don't do that to us. I'm sure the movie is still going to be great, but that is going to bother me the whole time. HE HAD THE HAT ON IN ALL THE POST CREDIT SCENES WHHHHYYYYYY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 02/18/18 10:59:48 PM #78:	_MorningStar posted... People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:896345302] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:00:23 PM #79:	Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896345341] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:02:33 PM #80:	Tyranthraxus posted... Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League. DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896345445] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League.</quote> DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:07:51 PM #81:	_MorningStar posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League. DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse. No I think in the case of Aquaman this is the right move. If you want cart-before-horse, look at flashpoint --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896345747] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League.</quote> DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse.</quote> No I think in the case of Aquaman this is the right move. If you want cart-before-horse, look at flashpoint</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:12:52 PM #82:	Tyranthraxus posted... _MorningStar posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League. DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse. No I think in the case of Aquaman this is the right move. If you want cart-before-horse, look at flashpoint I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896346057] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Aquaman is going to be a story about how he becomes King of Atlantis. He isn't starting out as King the way they did in BP. The movie is fundamentally a direct sequel to Justice League.</quote> DC is the literal definition of putting the cart before the horse.</quote> No I think in the case of Aquaman this is the right move. If you want cart-before-horse, look at flashpoint</quote> I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/18/18 11:14:32 PM #83:	Skye Reynolds posted... _MorningStar posted... People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already. Eh, I wouldn't quite say THAT. There's a huge difference between the Nolan Batman trilogy and anything DC has put out since. The most fundamental being that Nolan Bat was its own thing in its own universe, the films, even at their worst, were all-around competent(and, at their best, were amazing), and Batman lends himself to that kind of thing. Lastly, it was a closed story, and even though Batman Begins was an origin story, it both was an origin that hadn't appeared in film in like 20 years and diverged significantly from the usual. Then you have Zack Snyder do a dark-and-gritty Superman film that was mediocre at best, and instead of exploring this Superman more or(as Marvel did) exploring some other hero's story, you jump right into a film called Batman vs. Superman which barely features Superman and is also establishing most of the rest of the Justice League, you start getting into train-wreck territory. It shouldn't be surprising the most successful DC film so far was Wonder Woman, which struck a positive, feminist note(positive and feminist is basically WW in a nutshell) and focused almost exclusively on the title character, as opposed to focusing primarily on, say, Aquaman being mad at Wonder Woman for <reason> and, say, The Flash trying to get them to stop fighting for <reason>, only to have them stop fighting because they realize their pet goldfish had the same name. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:896346168] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already.</quote> Eh, I wouldn't quite say THAT. There's a huge difference between the Nolan Batman trilogy and anything DC has put out since. The most fundamental being that Nolan Bat was its own thing in its own universe, the films, even at their worst, were all-around competent(and, at their best, were amazing), and Batman lends himself to that kind of thing. Lastly, it was a closed story, and even though Batman Begins was an origin story, it both was an origin that hadn't appeared in film in like 20 years and diverged significantly from the usual. Then you have Zack Snyder do a dark-and-gritty Superman film that was mediocre at best, and instead of exploring this Superman more or(as Marvel did) exploring some other hero's story, you jump right into a film called Batman vs. Superman which barely features Superman and is also establishing most of the rest of the Justice League, you start getting into train-wreck territory. It shouldn't be surprising the most successful DC film so far was Wonder Woman, which struck a positive, feminist note(positive and feminist is basically WW in a nutshell) and focused almost exclusively on the title character, as opposed to focusing primarily on, say, Aquaman being mad at Wonder Woman for <reason> and, say, The Flash trying to get them to stop fighting for <reason>, only to have them stop fighting because they realize their pet goldfish had the same name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 11:16:02 PM #84:	Skye Reynolds posted... _MorningStar posted... People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies. People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already. I'd love if DCEU movies if they were all anywhere near as good as TDK. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896346258] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>People don't want dark and gritty super hero movies.</quote> People are tired of them. The Dark Knight was 10 years ago. It's time for DC to move on already.</quote> I'd love if DCEU movies if they were all anywhere near as good as TDK.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:16:05 PM #85:	_MorningStar posted... I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste. I really just hope Flashpoint ends up being a neutered version of the original story to where it mostly focuses on just Barry and Eobard and like... kind of does a BTTF 2 thing maybe. Like say they caught Bruce Wayne and arrested him, Superman stayed dead, etc and that's it and it's all undone at the end of the movie with maybe some minor retcons about shit we didn't like such as Jimmy Olsen. We do not need shit like Martha Wayne Joker right now. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896346261] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste. </quote> I really just hope Flashpoint ends up being a neutered version of the original story to where it mostly focuses on just Barry and Eobard and like... kind of does a BTTF 2 thing maybe. Like say they caught Bruce Wayne and arrested him, Superman stayed dead, etc and that's it and it's all undone at the end of the movie with maybe some minor retcons about shit we didn't like such as Jimmy Olsen. We do not need shit like Martha Wayne Joker right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 11:20:25 PM #86:	Flashpoint won't really have the same impact in the DCEU. Think of how something like a Flashpoint would look in the MCU right now. A bunch of heroes dead or being outright villains. That would be a huge gut punch. Meanwhile in the DCEU we have mopey Superman who barely gets a chance to be happy or charming and a dark Batman who kills people. That's not far off Flashpoint Batman. We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life. This didn't matter so much in the animated movie but we're talking about a unified cinematic universe. The impact of Flashpoint could make a big impact if they waited. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896346519] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Flashpoint won't really have the same impact in the DCEU. Think of how something like a Flashpoint would look in the MCU right now. A bunch of heroes dead or being outright villains. That would be a huge gut punch. Meanwhile in the DCEU we have mopey Superman who barely gets a chance to be happy or charming and a dark Batman who kills people. That's not far off Flashpoint Batman. We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life. This didn't matter so much in the animated movie but we're talking about a unified cinematic universe. The impact of Flashpoint could make a big impact if they waited.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:20:54 PM #87:	Tyranthraxus posted... _MorningStar posted... I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste. I really just hope Flashpoint ends up being a neutered version of the original story to where it mostly focuses on just Barry and Eobard and like... kind of does a BTTF 2 thing maybe. Like say they caught Bruce Wayne and arrested him, Superman stayed dead, etc and that's it and it's all undone at the end of the movie with maybe some minor retcons about shit we didn't like such as Jimmy Olsen. We do not need shit like Martha Wayne Joker right now. I'm all for it if it means we get a JDM as Batman. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896346553] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>I think the flashpoint thing is twofold. It's a beloved DC story. So it gets the already comic book fans in even more of a frenzy. Especially with how clamoring we all were foe it in the tv series and how they neutered it was. But it also gives them an emergency break. If it keeps going to shit until then, they can pull the reset button. Honestly, I'm just hoping the DCEU doesn't just royally fuck everything up and them putting the hamstring on the arrowverse a waste. </quote> I really just hope Flashpoint ends up being a neutered version of the original story to where it mostly focuses on just Barry and Eobard and like... kind of does a BTTF 2 thing maybe. Like say they caught Bruce Wayne and arrested him, Superman stayed dead, etc and that's it and it's all undone at the end of the movie with maybe some minor retcons about shit we didn't like such as Jimmy Olsen. We do not need shit like Martha Wayne Joker right now.</quote> I'm all for it if it means we get a JDM as Batman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:21:57 PM #88:	Darmik posted... We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life. We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896346604] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life.</quote> We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:24:35 PM #89:	Tyranthraxus posted... Darmik posted... We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life. We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet. It also helps having the TV series overwhelming success. People don't need to see more than a few moments in the movie to know why Barry did what he did. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896346761] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life.</quote> We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet.</quote> It also helps having the TV series overwhelming success. People don't need to see more than a few moments in the movie to know why Barry did what he did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 02/18/18 11:28:14 PM #90:	Darmik posted... Dragonblade01 posted... The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation. Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint. Its gonna swashbuckle at the box office like a drunk pirate on a storm wracked ship. --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:896346983] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>The only hope I have for an Aquaman movie is if they look at Black Panther and handle it similarly. Because, superpowers aside, Aquaman has always been surprisingly similar to Black Panther in terms of characterization and motivation.</quote> Apparently it's gonna be a swashbuckler? It wouldn't surprise me if it beats expectations like Wonder Woman. It seems pretty distant from the BvS/Justice League taint.</quote> Its gonna swashbuckle at the box office like a drunk pirate on a storm wracked ship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 11:30:11 PM #91:	Tyranthraxus posted... Darmik posted... We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life. We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet. I mean like what his day to day life is. We don't know his Iris. We don't know who his friends are. What his job is like. Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie. That way we can actually see him wiping away his own history and what he sacrifices to save his parents. In a way Flashpoint is also a Justice League story too. Which is how I'm guessing the movie will handle it. Just seems like another JL scenario where they're rushing into the payoff instead of building up to it. BvS spoilers ~~Which is also what they did with Death of Superman and The Dark Knight Returns.~~. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896347085] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>We also don't even really get to have the impact of what Barry is truly losing when he changes his past. We barely know anything about his personal life.</quote> We know enough. His mother was killed, his father was blamed for it, he knows the killer is still out there. Characters like Wally West don't exist yet.</quote> I mean like what his day to day life is. We don't know his Iris. We don't know who his friends are. What his job is like. Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie. That way we can actually see him wiping away his own history and what he sacrifices to save his parents. In a way Flashpoint is also a Justice League story too. Which is how I'm guessing the movie will handle it. Just seems like another JL scenario where they're rushing into the payoff instead of building up to it. BvS spoilers Which is also what they did with Death of Superman and The Dark Knight Returns..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:32:00 PM #92:	Come to think of it, i wonder if they will tie in the Flash scene in BvS in to Flashpoint. I don't want to even try and imagine how that would work. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896347170] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>Come to think of it, i wonder if they will tie in the Flash scene in BvS in to Flashpoint. I don't want to even try and imagine how that would work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:32:46 PM #93:	Darmik posted... Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie. I don't disagree, but not because of the information we have on Barry Allen. It's because Flashpoint does a lot of mashups with established characters who've already been mashed up in ways that fans did not like (DKReturns Batman, Injustice Superman, etc) We do not need to make shit worse to make it better. We can just stop making things worse. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896347208] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie.</quote> I don't disagree, but not because of the information we have on Barry Allen. It's because Flashpoint does a lot of mashups with established characters who've already been mashed up in ways that fans did not like (DKReturns Batman, Injustice Superman, etc) We do not need to make shit worse to make it better. We can just stop making things worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/18/18 11:33:30 PM #94:	lol DC --- Oda break tracker 2018- 1 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896347244] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>lol DC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:33:48 PM #95:	_MorningStar posted... Come to think of it, i wonder if they will tie in the Flash scene in BvS in to Flashpoint. I don't want to even try and imagine how that would work. Maybe if we're lucky, they will tie in that scene only to show us how Barry foils that future from ever happening so it never comes up again. I like Zack Snyder most of the time but I grow really tired of his "Superman is better as villain" fetish. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896347260] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>Come to think of it, i wonder if they will tie in the Flash scene in BvS in to Flashpoint. I don't want to even try and imagine how that would work.</quote> Maybe if we're lucky, they will tie in that scene only to show us how Barry foils that future from ever happening so it never comes up again. I like Zack Snyder most of the time but I grow really tired of his "Superman is better as villain" fetish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 02/18/18 11:34:44 PM #96:	absurd. movie looks like straight propoganda bullshit --- GABBA GABBA HEY Outta the sky, into the dirt <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:896347291] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>absurd. movie looks like straight propoganda bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:35:06 PM #97:	Tyranthraxus posted... Darmik posted... Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie. I don't disagree, but not because of the information we have on Barry Allen. It's because Flashpoint does a lot of mashups with established characters who've already been mashed up in ways that fans did not like (DKReturns Batman, Injustice Superman, etc) We do not need to make shit worse to make it better. We can just stop making things worse. Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896347313] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Flashpoint suits a sequel way more than being his first movie.</quote> I don't disagree, but not because of the information we have on Barry Allen. It's because Flashpoint does a lot of mashups with established characters who've already been mashed up in ways that fans did not like (DKReturns Batman, Injustice Superman, etc) We do not need to make shit worse to make it better. We can just stop making things worse.</quote> Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 02/18/18 11:38:32 PM #98:	_MorningStar posted... Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman. Just reboot the whole damn thing. Except Wonder Woman. That can remain part of the new DCCU. People will bitch for a bit but accept it, like they did with both Spiderman reboots. --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:896347486] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman.</quote> Just reboot the whole damn thing. Except Wonder Woman. That can remain part of the new DCCU. People will bitch for a bit but accept it, like they did with both Spiderman reboots.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/18/18 11:39:24 PM #99:	DC is better off cutting their losses and trying again from scratch with different directors, tbh. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896347532] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote>DC is better off cutting their losses and trying again from scratch with different directors, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/18/18 11:41:34 PM #100:	littlebro07 posted... _MorningStar posted... Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman. Just reboot the whole damn thing. Except Wonder Woman. That can remain part of the new DCCU. People will bitch for a bit but accept it, like they did with both Spiderman reboots. I agree that you can reboot it. In fact, I think that is the best course of action. But that means we have to give up Dianna. There is no feasible way to keep her ant not everyone else. Or the interconnected universe means nothing. At best we could get Dianna from another earth, but even then she would have a different personality. Legit makes me sad. Fuck you Snyder. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896347662] in Black Pant... [t:76333512]...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>Honest question though, how do we make things right now? In WB's demand of streamlining things, what can possibly right this ship? We can't just reintroduce characters again. Unless they are Spiderman.</quote> Just reboot the whole damn thing. Except Wonder Woman. That can remain part of the new DCCU. People will bitch for a bit but accept it, like they did with both Spiderman reboots.</quote> I agree that you can reboot it. In fact, I think that is the best course of action. But that means we have to give up Dianna. There is no feasible way to keep her ant not everyone else. Or the interconnected universe means nothing. At best we could get Dianna from another earth, but even then she would have a different personality. Legit makes me sad. Fuck you Snyder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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