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Darmik 02/18/18 8:42:47 PM #52:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Darmik posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid. It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't. Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie. What? What are you misunderstanding? A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896338134] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.</quote> It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't. Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie.</quote> What?</quote> What are you misunderstanding? A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 8:43:01 PM #53:	Tyranthraxus posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Tyranthraxus posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though. No I mean exclusively for the movies. He's a villain you can actually sympathize with. Vulture from Spiderman was by FAR the best villain in the Marvel movies thus far. He's good but I still like ~~killmonger~~ better. Vulture's feud with Spider-Man was manufactured. ~~killmonger~~ was motivated his entire life because of a personal vendetta. Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda. Vulture was just a regular person using technology. Killmonger had the Black Panther chemical or w/e. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896338148] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though.</quote> No I mean exclusively for the movies. He's a villain you can actually sympathize with.</quote> Vulture from Spiderman was by FAR the best villain in the Marvel movies thus far.</quote> He's good but I still like killmonger better. Vulture's feud with Spider-Man was manufactured. killmonger was motivated his entire life because of a personal vendetta.</quote> Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda. Vulture was just a regular person using technology. Killmonger had the Black Panther chemical or w/e.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 8:44:25 PM #54:	FLUFFYGERM posted... ~~Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda.~~ It really seems like you misunderstood the character (and his father). --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896338221] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda.</quote> It really seems like you misunderstood the character (and his father).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 8:46:59 PM #55:	Darmik posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Darmik posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid. It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't. Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie. What? What are you misunderstanding? A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther. Uh the whole movie was about how some people from Wakanda thought Wakanda should flex its military muscle to take over the world, and how the Black Panther didn't want that to happen. The white stuff was only a part of the movie because of the one liners directed at white people, and nothing you said changes the fact that that was stupid. Especially since generalizing about all white people being colonizers is pretty racist in itself. At least the movie was somewhat balanced in also pointing out that Africans and African Americans are different people in themselves, so I won't be unfair and say that it was completely biased. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896338370] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.</quote> It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't. Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie.</quote> What?</quote> What are you misunderstanding? A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther.</quote> Uh the whole movie was about how some people from Wakanda thought Wakanda should flex its military muscle to take over the world, and how the Black Panther didn't want that to happen. The white stuff was only a part of the movie because of the one liners directed at white people, and nothing you said changes the fact that that was stupid. Especially since generalizing about all white people being colonizers is pretty racist in itself. At least the movie was somewhat balanced in also pointing out that Africans and African Americans are different people in themselves, so I won't be unfair and say that it was completely biased.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 8:48:10 PM #56:	Darmik posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... ~~Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda.~~ It really seems like you misunderstood the character (and his father). Nah it really seems like you're the who one misunderstood the character (and his father and the whole damn movie) --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896338425] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah but Vulture was just a dude trying to look after his family. Killmonger was a killer who went crazy and became indoctrinated by his father's warlord propaganda.</quote> It really seems like you misunderstood the character (and his father).</quote> Nah it really seems like you're the who one misunderstood the character (and his father and the whole damn movie)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 02/18/18 8:50:06 PM #57:	Racist garbage --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:896338524] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Racist garbage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 8:51:58 PM #58:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Uh the whole movie was about how some people from Wakanda thought Wakanda should flex its military muscle to take over the world, and how the Black Panther didn't want that to happen. The white stuff was only a part of the movie because of the one liners directed at white people, and nothing you said changes the fact that that was stupid. Especially since generalizing about all white people being colonizers is pretty racist in itself. Pointing out that white people are colonizers isn't racist. It's history. The movie didn't generalize 'all white people are colonizers' anyway. The American agent was willing to sacrifice his life to save Wakanda. You seem to have completely missed the fact that Killmonger wants Wakanda to flex its muscle because black people are oppressed across the planet and Wakanda hasn't done a thing about it. It's his entire motivation. You can't remove this aspect because it's the foundation of the movie. This also leads to why Wakanda begins its outreach in the African-American ghetto in LA. I'm really not sure how this stuff went over your head. FLUFFYGERM posted... Nah it really seems like you're the who one misunderstood the character (and his father and the whole damn movie) ~~If you seriously think the only reason Killmonger is a villain is because of his father then yeah you obviously misunderstood the character.~~ --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896338634] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Uh the whole movie was about how some people from Wakanda thought Wakanda should flex its military muscle to take over the world, and how the Black Panther didn't want that to happen. The white stuff was only a part of the movie because of the one liners directed at white people, and nothing you said changes the fact that that was stupid. Especially since generalizing about all white people being colonizers is pretty racist in itself.</quote> Pointing out that white people are colonizers isn't racist. It's history. The movie didn't generalize 'all white people are colonizers' anyway. The American agent was willing to sacrifice his life to save Wakanda. You seem to have completely missed the fact that Killmonger wants Wakanda to flex its muscle because black people are oppressed across the planet and Wakanda hasn't done a thing about it. It's his entire motivation. You can't remove this aspect because it's the foundation of the movie. This also leads to why Wakanda begins its outreach in the African-American ghetto in LA. I'm really not sure how this stuff went over your head. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Nah it really seems like you're the who one misunderstood the character (and his father and the whole damn movie)</quote> If you seriously think the only reason Killmonger is a villain is because of his father then yeah you obviously misunderstood the character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 8:53:13 PM #59:	killmonger's father wasn't a warlord. He was a spy. He first wanted to get his brother to end his isolationist policies but wasn't successful so he tried to help people by smuggling vibranium out of Wakanda. The guy he hired to help him just turned out to be a psychopath and shit went South after that --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896338699] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>killmonger's father wasn't a warlord. He was a spy. He first wanted to get his brother to end his isolationist policies but wasn't successful so he tried to help people by smuggling vibranium out of Wakanda. The guy he hired to help him just turned out to be a psychopath and shit went South after that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 8:58:51 PM #60:	The one liner about the agent being a colonizer was directed at him just because he's white. That's a generalization about white skin without regard for the many nationalities that have white skin and without regard for whether or not that individual in question had any part in colonization. Wakanda began outreach in that ghetto because that was where Killmonger was from. Note that before that scene Black Panther was at the UN meeting and saying he was going to share technology / vibranium with everyone. Killmonger's father was perfectly fine employing violence in his pursuits (hence the weapons). Killmonger wanted to destabilize nations through in-fighting, not really help other black people. His father dying is why he became a villain and wanted to kill Black Panther. He even says he purposely joined the military and trained and killed as many people as possible in preparation to kill Black Panther. You would've had the same exact film if you removed the one liners about white people. For example if you removed the "colonizer" joke and the "another broken white boy for me to fix" joke and whatever you would've had the same exact movie with the same exact drama/conflicts. In fact there was far more drama in the film because of the conflict between Africans and African Americans (like when Killmonger asked Black Panther where the Wakandans were when his people were being shipped off to be slaves) than because of the conflict between colonizers and Africans hundreds of years ago. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896338978] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>The one liner about the agent being a colonizer was directed at him just because he's white. That's a generalization about white skin without regard for the many nationalities that have white skin and without regard for whether or not that individual in question had any part in colonization. Wakanda began outreach in that ghetto because that was where Killmonger was from. Note that before that scene Black Panther was at the UN meeting and saying he was going to share technology / vibranium with everyone. Killmonger's father was perfectly fine employing violence in his pursuits (hence the weapons). Killmonger wanted to destabilize nations through in-fighting, not really help other black people. His father dying is why he became a villain and wanted to kill Black Panther. He even says he purposely joined the military and trained and killed as many people as possible in preparation to kill Black Panther. You would've had the same exact film if you removed the one liners about white people. For example if you removed the "colonizer" joke and the "another broken white boy for me to fix" joke and whatever you would've had the same exact movie with the same exact drama/conflicts. In fact there was far more drama in the film because of the conflict between Africans and African Americans (like when Killmonger asked Black Panther where the Wakandans were when his people were being shipped off to be slaves) than because of the conflict between colonizers and Africans hundreds of years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 9:08:44 PM #61:	Yeah you didn't get the movie at all. Killmonger is bitter because he's an oppressed minority orphan raised in the United States. There's a reason they chose the early 90's. The fucking movie begins with racial riots shown on TV. His uncle wasn't meant to be a bad man or a warmonger. He was living in a shitty time period for minorities and wanted to do something about it. It lead to him being used by Klaue, murdered by his brother and it lead to his son becoming an extremist. That's why he is filled with regret in Killmonger's vision. He's not just bitter at the Black Panther for murdering his father. He's bitter at Wakanda for letting black people live oppressed and doing nothing about it for generations. He's bitter that they could be in the same position as white people if they helped his people. That's his motivation. That's what he trains to do. He wants to make Wakanda into the colonizer country and take over the world. He even learns how to do this as an American agent. They can't just remove that angle from the movie. Getting revenge against how black people have been treated for hundreds of years is the core motivation for Killmonger. It's not just about his father. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896339438] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Yeah you didn't get the movie at all. Killmonger is bitter because he's an oppressed minority orphan raised in the United States. There's a reason they chose the early 90's. The fucking movie begins with racial riots shown on TV. His uncle wasn't meant to be a bad man or a warmonger. He was living in a shitty time period for minorities and wanted to do something about it. It lead to him being used by Klaue, murdered by his brother and it lead to his son becoming an extremist. That's why he is filled with regret in Killmonger's vision. He's not just bitter at the Black Panther for murdering his father. He's bitter at Wakanda for letting black people live oppressed and doing nothing about it for generations. He's bitter that they could be in the same position as white people if they helped his people. That's his motivation. That's what he trains to do. He wants to make Wakanda into the colonizer country and take over the world. He even learns how to do this as an American agent. They can't just remove that angle from the movie. Getting revenge against how black people have been treated for hundreds of years is the core motivation for Killmonger. It's not just about his father. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 9:13:19 PM #62:	@FLUFFYGERM I don't disagree with you about the white boy jokes. I'm just saying the villain has much more going on than "I'm bad" Most other MCU villains don't. Even if they have similar stories, the personification of those villains doesn't end up being as nuanced. (See: GotG 1 and Civil War) --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896339682] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>@FLUFFYGERM I don't disagree with you about the white boy jokes. I'm just saying the villain has much more going on than "I'm bad" Most other MCU villains don't. Even if they have similar stories, the personification of those villains doesn't end up being as nuanced. (See: GotG 1 and Civil War)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 9:13:42 PM #63:	Did you completely miss the part where Killmonger's uncle was planning a violent heist or w/e at the beginning of the film? And how they hid the weapons in the closet when they thought the feds were knocking on the door? And when he tried to kill Black Panther? Killmonger's uncle was absolutely a bad person who was radicalized into violent warmongering. The way the minorities in America were treated likely contributed to that, but he was bad because of his beliefs on how Wakanda should use its power. And I disagree with your claims about Killmonger's motivation. He was an evil murderer, dude. Didn't you see how many people he killed to get all those tattoos? Didn't you hear how he literally openly said he wants to escalate tensions by distributing weapons? He wasn't interested in helping anyone - he was interested in introducing violence and warfare all around the world using Wakanda's weapons. Black Panther is the one who ultimately actually started helping everyone. Killmonger only wanted to kill everyone and become a dictator. And you completely ignored what I said about the one liners about white people. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896339703] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Did you completely miss the part where Killmonger's uncle was planning a violent heist or w/e at the beginning of the film? And how they hid the weapons in the closet when they thought the feds were knocking on the door? And when he tried to kill Black Panther? Killmonger's uncle was absolutely a bad person who was radicalized into violent warmongering. The way the minorities in America were treated likely contributed to that, but he was bad because of his beliefs on how Wakanda should use its power. And I disagree with your claims about Killmonger's motivation. He was an evil murderer, dude. Didn't you see how many people he killed to get all those tattoos? Didn't you hear how he literally openly said he wants to escalate tensions by distributing weapons? He wasn't interested in helping anyone - he was interested in introducing violence and warfare all around the world using Wakanda's weapons. Black Panther is the one who ultimately actually started helping everyone. Killmonger only wanted to kill everyone and become a dictator. And you completely ignored what I said about the one liners about white people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/18/18 9:16:23 PM #64:	Tyranthraxus posted... @FLUFFYGERM I don't disagree with you about the white boy jokes. I'm just saying the villain has much more going on than "I'm bad" Most other MCU villains don't. Even if they have similar stories, the personification of those villains doesn't end up being as nuanced. (See: GotG 1 and Civil War) I just think you guys are overemphasizing how much of his motivations were because of Wakanda ignoring black people in America and under-emphasizing how much of his motivations were because he was a violent psychopath with a radical warmongering father. None of the people Killmonger was going to kill were even responsible for what he was upset about. How is that nuanced? Imo Vulture was much more nuanced. --- Do good. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:896339851] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>@FLUFFYGERM I don't disagree with you about the white boy jokes. I'm just saying the villain has much more going on than "I'm bad" Most other MCU villains don't. Even if they have similar stories, the personification of those villains doesn't end up being as nuanced. (See: GotG 1 and Civil War)</quote> I just think you guys are overemphasizing how much of his motivations were because of Wakanda ignoring black people in America and under-emphasizing how much of his motivations were because he was a violent psychopath with a radical warmongering father. None of the people Killmonger was going to kill were even responsible for what he was upset about. How is that nuanced? Imo Vulture was much more nuanced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 9:21:34 PM #65:	Killmonger's Dad has an entire conversation to the Black Panther about why he is doing what he is doing. He's not shown to be right but he's not painted out to be some crazy warmonger and T'Chaka even says that his father is no better after his reaction. It isn't meant to be a black and white scene. It's meant to be a guy who is pushed into being bad because the US is treating his people terribly. That Wakanda has the power to do something about it yet does nothing. I never said Killmonger wasn't an evil dude. He is the villain after all. I'm just saying that ignoring all of the racial oppression and history that leads to his motivation is missing an entire chunk of his character development. It's not just about his father. That was a single catalyst that just got worse as he grew older. Hell his entire opening scene is talking to the lady in the London museum about how they took things from his people and he's taking them back. All of this stuff is also why T'Chaka attempts to be better. Getting offended over an American CIA agent being called a colonist by an isolationist country is silly. Hell the guy even says he is involved in destabilizing countries. He's not just some random dude. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896340124] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Killmonger's Dad has an entire conversation to the Black Panther about why he is doing what he is doing. He's not shown to be right but he's not painted out to be some crazy warmonger and T'Chaka even says that his father is no better after his reaction. It isn't meant to be a black and white scene. It's meant to be a guy who is pushed into being bad because the US is treating his people terribly. That Wakanda has the power to do something about it yet does nothing. I never said Killmonger wasn't an evil dude. He is the villain after all. I'm just saying that ignoring all of the racial oppression and history that leads to his motivation is missing an entire chunk of his character development. It's not just about his father. That was a single catalyst that just got worse as he grew older. Hell his entire opening scene is talking to the lady in the London museum about how they took things from his people and he's taking them back. All of this stuff is also why T'Chaka attempts to be better. Getting offended over an American CIA agent being called a colonist by an isolationist country is silly. Hell the guy even says he is involved in destabilizing countries. He's not just some random dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 02/18/18 9:22:18 PM #66:	Darmik posted... A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther. No, it was outsiders that happened to include white people. Panthers best friend in the movie didn't want to invite the black people in Africa. When panther saved those women, Okoye told those women to never speak of it. Hell the only reason Nakia was with those women outside Wakanda is because they weren't allowed in as outsiders. And when Killmonger first showed up, Wakandans pulled up with weapons. He was only granted an audience because he brought Wakanda's most wanted and he carried the mark of Wakanda. So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:896340165] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther.</quote> No, it was outsiders that happened to include white people. Panthers best friend in the movie didn't want to invite the black people in Africa. When panther saved those women, Okoye told those women to never speak of it. Hell the only reason Nakia was with those women outside Wakanda is because they weren't allowed in as outsiders. And when Killmonger first showed up, Wakandans pulled up with weapons. He was only granted an audience because he brought Wakanda's most wanted and he carried the mark of Wakanda. So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 9:25:14 PM #67:	Vulture was a better person. He did what he did out of desperation and not because he just wanted the world to burn. ~~killmonger~~ was not a good person but his primary motivations were personal. his father gave him the values of helping his people who were oppressed and told him stories of Wakanda. When he saw the panther claws in his Father's chest he knew what had happened and developed an Inigo Montoya tier vengeance. All the killing he did was training for taking over Wakanda. He didn't want to help anyone. He just wanted revenge. His revenge just ended up with him in control of a kingdom but he didn't know anything except how to destroy governments at that point. He was an evil person but his motivations were exactly as Darmik says. Once he achieved his goal, he had nothing left except for his methods which were evil and destructive. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896340316] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Vulture was a better person. He did what he did out of desperation and not because he just wanted the world to burn. killmonger was not a good person but his primary motivations were personal. his father gave him the values of helping his people who were oppressed and told him stories of Wakanda. When he saw the panther claws in his Father's chest he knew what had happened and developed an Inigo Montoya tier vengeance. All the killing he did was training for taking over Wakanda. He didn't want to help anyone. He just wanted revenge. His revenge just ended up with him in control of a kingdom but he didn't know anything except how to destroy governments at that point. He was an evil person but his motivations were exactly as Darmik says. Once he achieved his goal, he had nothing left except for his methods which were evil and destructive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 9:26:31 PM #68:	Makeveli_lives posted... So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case. That's the point. ~~killmonger wanted Wakanda to help black people but they didn't / refused to~~ Edit: ~~and by that I mean he wanted them to help out black people 700 years ago, not just in LA in the 90s~~ --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896340388] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Makeveli_lives posted...</cite> <quote>So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case.</quote> That's the point. killmonger wanted Wakanda to help black people but they didn't / refused to Edit: and by that I mean he wanted them to help out black people 700 years ago, not just in LA in the 90s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 9:27:10 PM #69:	Makeveli_lives posted... Darmik posted... A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther. No, it was outsiders that happened to include white people. Panthers best friend in the movie didn't want to invite the black people in Africa. When panther saved those women, Okoye told those women to never speak of it. Hell the only reason Nakia was with those women outside Wakanda is because they weren't allowed in as outsiders. And when Killmonger first showed up, Wakandans pulled up with weapons. He was only granted an audience because he brought Wakanda's most wanted and he carried the mark of Wakanda. So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case. I never said Wakanda let in black people? I said the opposite. That they do nothing for them. That they let it all happen. I'm talking about Killmonger's motivations primarily. Wakanda was originally isolationist because of the meteorite of vibranium and they continue to justify it to themselves because of the events that happen outside of their bubble. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896340420] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Makeveli_lives posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> A major part of the movie is how white people treated Africans (with colonization) and African-Americans (with oppression) and how that history leads to the events in Black Panther.</quote> No, it was outsiders that happened to include white people. Panthers best friend in the movie didn't want to invite the black people in Africa. When panther saved those women, Okoye told those women to never speak of it. Hell the only reason Nakia was with those women outside Wakanda is because they weren't allowed in as outsiders. And when Killmonger first showed up, Wakandans pulled up with weapons. He was only granted an audience because he brought Wakanda's most wanted and he carried the mark of Wakanda. So how exactly in your mind is it that Wakanda lets in everyone who is black given the evidence in the movie that it isn't the case.</quote> I never said Wakanda let in black people? I said the opposite. That they do nothing for them. That they let it all happen. I'm talking about Killmonger's motivations primarily. Wakanda was originally isolationist because of the meteorite of vibranium and they continue to justify it to themselves because of the events that happen outside of their bubble.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 02/18/18 9:28:20 PM #70:	FLUFFYGERM posted... And you completely ignored what I said about the one liners about white people. It was a fucking joke. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:896340474] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>And you completely ignored what I said about the one liners about white people. </quote> It was a fucking joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 02/18/18 9:35:10 PM #71:	Darmik posted... I never said Wakanda let in black people? I said the opposite. That they do nothing for them. That they let it all happen. I'm talking about Killmonger's motivations primarily. Wakanda was originally isolationist because of the meteorite of vibranium and they continue to justify it to themselves because of the events that happen outside of their bubble. You were responding to another post, the one about colonizing and the treatment of the agent. I misread and assumed you were the one that said it. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:896340806] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> I never said Wakanda let in black people? I said the opposite. That they do nothing for them. That they let it all happen. I'm talking about Killmonger's motivations primarily. Wakanda was originally isolationist because of the meteorite of vibranium and they continue to justify it to themselves because of the events that happen outside of their bubble. </quote> You were responding to another post, the one about colonizing and the treatment of the agent. I misread and assumed you were the one that said it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:31:31 PM #72:	Tyranthraxus posted... Muffinz0rz posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It was definitely better than all the Thor films. imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok Lmao no nonit wasnt --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896343823] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It was definitely better than all the Thor films.</quote> imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok</quote> It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok</quote> Lmao no nonit wasnt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:35:57 PM #73:	KingCrabCake posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Muffinz0rz posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It was definitely better than all the Thor films. imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok Lmao no nonit wasnt The jokes in Ragnarok are Garfield tier and the plot wasn't good at all. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344075] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It was definitely better than all the Thor films.</quote> imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok</quote> It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok</quote> Lmao no nonit wasnt</quote> The jokes in Ragnarok are Garfield tier and the plot wasn't good at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:47:01 PM #74:	Tyranthraxus posted... KingCrabCake posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Muffinz0rz posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... It was definitely better than all the Thor films. imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok Lmao no nonit wasnt The jokes in Ragnarok are Garfield tier and the plot wasn't good at all. And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896344644] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>It was definitely better than all the Thor films.</quote> imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok</quote> It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok</quote> Lmao no nonit wasnt</quote> The jokes in Ragnarok are Garfield tier and the plot wasn't good at all.</quote> And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:49:08 PM #75:	KingCrabCake posted... And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great. It was fucking Robert Frost compared to Ragnarok. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896344751] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great.</quote> It was fucking Robert Frost compared to Ragnarok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:51:46 PM #76:	Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896344889] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:52:31 PM #77:	Tyranthraxus posted... KingCrabCake posted... And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great. It was fucking Robert Frost compared to Ragnarok. Except anyone and everyone could see every major event 10 mins before it happened. Lol --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896344925] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>And black panthers predictable plot was oh so great.</quote> It was fucking Robert Frost compared to Ragnarok.</quote> Except anyone and everyone could see every major event 10 mins before it happened. Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:55:03 PM #78:	KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Ragnarok had that every 30 seconds. Or more if Korg was involved. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896345046] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Ragnarok had that every 30 seconds. Or more if Korg was involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmeralDragon23 02/18/18 10:56:16 PM #79:	I have TC tagged for rape apologist, but I don't know why. --- El Psy Congroo 3DS FC: 3952-7469-6840 <cite>EmeralDragon23 posted [p:896345109] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>I have TC tagged for rape apologist, but I don't know why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/18/18 10:56:24 PM #80:	KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Yeah... that was bad --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:896345120] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Yeah... that was bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:56:33 PM #81:	Tyranthraxus posted... KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Ragnarok had that every 30 seconds. Or more if Korg was involved. Korg = Shuri Nice try tho --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896345134] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Ragnarok had that every 30 seconds. Or more if Korg was involved.</quote> Korg = Shuri Nice try tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 10:57:18 PM #82:	KingCrabCake posted... Korg = Shuri Not even fucking close --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896345168] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Korg = Shuri </quote> Not even fucking close</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scaramanga 02/18/18 10:57:45 PM #83:	I kept waiting for BP to walk into his local McDowells. --- A duel between titans. My golden gun against your Walther PPK. Each of us with a 50-50 chance. <cite>Scaramanga posted [p:896345196] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>I kept waiting for BP to walk into his local McDowells.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 10:59:28 PM #84:	Tyranthraxus posted... KingCrabCake posted... Korg = Shuri Not even fucking close Umm yes.if not more. ~~"When you wear them no one can you, i call them SNEAK-ERS....YOU GET IT?"~~ Be fucking consistent --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896345286] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Korg = Shuri </quote> Not even fucking close</quote> Umm yes.if not more. "When you wear them no one can you, i call them SNEAK-ERS....YOU GET IT?" Be fucking consistent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:01:10 PM #85:	KingCrabCake posted... Tyranthraxus posted... KingCrabCake posted... Korg = Shuri Not even fucking close Umm yes.if not more. ~~"When you wear them no one can you, i call them SNEAK-ERS....YOU GET IT?"~~ Be fucking consistent The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896345373] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Korg = Shuri </quote> Not even fucking close</quote> Umm yes.if not more. "When you wear them no one can you, i call them SNEAK-ERS....YOU GET IT?" Be fucking consistent</quote> The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 11:06:45 PM #86:	Tyranthraxus posted... The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible. It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896345667] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible.</quote> It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smogal 02/18/18 11:10:30 PM #87:	DezDroppedFreak posted... KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Yeah... that was bad Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe. --- Well, well, well... <cite>Smogal posted [p:896345906] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Yeah... that was bad</quote> Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scaramanga 02/18/18 11:17:56 PM #88:	Smogal posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Yeah... that was bad Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe. Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme? --- A duel between titans. My golden gun against your Walther PPK. Each of us with a 50-50 chance. <cite>Scaramanga posted [p:896346377] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smogal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Yeah... that was bad</quote> Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe.</quote> Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:18:58 PM #89:	Scaramanga posted... Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme? this is the original what are those meme --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896346432] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scaramanga posted...</cite> <quote>Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme? </quote> this is the original what are those meme </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smogal 02/18/18 11:19:11 PM #90:	Scaramanga posted... Smogal posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Yeah... that was bad Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe. Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme? Yeah, it is. Pretty popular among the black community. Then it went to mainstream culture. But it stopped being funny not too long after it started, imo. --- Well, well, well... <cite>Smogal posted [p:896346446] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Scaramanga posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smogal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Yeah... that was bad</quote> Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe.</quote> Is the What Are Those joke some kind of meme?</quote> Yeah, it is. Pretty popular among the black community. Then it went to mainstream culture. But it stopped being funny not too long after it started, imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 11:21:43 PM #91:	I had no idea it was a meme lol. Probably worked out better that way. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896346596] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>I had no idea it was a meme lol. Probably worked out better that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 11:29:21 PM #92:	Smogal posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... KingCrabCake posted... Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor Yeah... that was bad Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe. I loved the movie too. Have it as an 8 out of 10. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896347038] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smogal posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote>Black Panther literally had a "What are thoseee" joke where Shuri made fun of sandals.....gee golly thats some A+ humor</quote> Yeah... that was bad</quote> Agreed. I love the movie, but that joke was cringe.</quote> I loved the movie too. Have it as an 8 out of 10.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 02/18/18 11:37:12 PM #93:	Movie was great. And lol @FLUFFYGERM getting that bent out of shape over the film using the word colonizer. There was nothing wrong with it. --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:896347417] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Movie was great. And lol @FLUFFYGERM getting that bent out of shape over the film using the word colonizer. There was nothing wrong with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrancisAlaMode 02/18/18 11:38:38 PM #94:	It was made by a black guy, after all. --- Keeping it real <cite>FrancisAlaMode posted [p:896347492] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>It was made by a black guy, after all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 02/18/18 11:46:42 PM #95:	KingCrabCake posted... Tyranthraxus posted... The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible. It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke And? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:896347946] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible.</quote> It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke</quote> And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 11:49:52 PM #96:	dave_is_slick posted... KingCrabCake posted... Tyranthraxus posted... The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible. It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke And? He was complaining about how often the jokes were in thor..... Maybe keep up or dont but in conversations that you werent apart of --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896348101] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KingCrabCake posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote> The movie literally acknowledged that joke was terrible.</quote> It was literally 32 seconds after the "what are those " joke</quote> And?</quote> He was complaining about how often the jokes were in thor..... Maybe keep up or dont but in conversations that you werent apart of </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 02/18/18 11:51:01 PM #97:	Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:896348165] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 11:52:08 PM #98:	Prestoff posted... Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it. The MCU villains have gotten a lot better lately. I quite liked Ego too. Hopefully Thanos continues the trend. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896348218] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it.</quote> The MCU villains have gotten a lot better lately. I quite liked Ego too. Hopefully Thanos continues the trend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:52:52 PM #99:	Darmik posted... I quite liked ~~Ego~~ too. No this was a fucking disaster it's the worst thing to come out of that movie. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896348251] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I quite liked Ego too.</quote> No this was a fucking disaster it's the worst thing to come out of that movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/18/18 11:53:36 PM #100:	Prestoff posted... Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it. Ego Hela Killmonger Loki Vulture --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896348276] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>Killmonger and Vulture are the best villains in the MCU because you get to see straight up there character development and the reasons why they turned out the way they did. For the longest time MCU had very generic and boring villains (Ultron being the biggest waste of them all). The MCU villains are nowhere near the Dark Knight's Joker level, but hopefully we will see one that can match up to it.</quote> Ego Hela Killmonger Loki Vulture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/18/18 11:55:12 PM #101:	Loki is an antagonist, not a villain. Hela was a boring character with no personification people only like her because evil bondage milf. She's not fundamentally different from Ultros or Ronan. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:896348364] in Black Pant... [t:76331105]...</cite> <quote>Loki is an antagonist, not a villain. Hela was a boring character with no personification people only like her because evil bondage milf. She's not fundamentally different from Ultros or Ronan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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