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orcus_snake
02/17/18 11:48:06 PM
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Not unlike Thor
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FLUFFYGERM
02/17/18 11:49:36 PM
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It was definitely better than all the Thor films.
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orcus_snake
02/17/18 11:51:48 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.


Even if I agree being better than dumpster fires aint much of a thing to boast about.
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eggcorn
02/17/18 11:52:31 PM
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so many turrible opinions in this topic
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Muffinz0rz
02/17/18 11:55:22 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok
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Pharrell3
02/17/18 11:55:58 PM
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lolz
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FLUFFYGERM
02/17/18 11:57:10 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok


Ragnarok was garbage
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dave_is_slick
02/17/18 11:57:53 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok

I don't have to imagine it, it's reality. Now, they're two very different movies so comparing them isn't fair.
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orcus_snake
02/18/18 12:31:57 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok

I don't have to imagine it, it's reality. Now, they're two very different movies so comparing them isn't fair.


They sucked, so it is pretty easy to compare.
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FrancisAlaMode
02/18/18 12:33:53 AM
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BP is a dumpster fire
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DezDroppedFreak
02/18/18 12:36:07 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok

I can because I do
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L0Z
02/18/18 1:02:11 AM
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I found it racist against YTs and funny.

The FBI agent gets called a Colonizer and a bunch of Rhowandans bark at the white FBI agent when he speaks
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DezDroppedFreak
02/18/18 1:03:41 AM
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Racist against youtubers??
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DezDroppedFreak
02/18/18 1:07:50 AM
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How was it racist against white people
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dave_is_slick
02/18/18 1:15:39 AM
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orcus_snake posted...
They sucked, so it is pretty easy to compare.

You're wrong so I'm disregarding everything you say about both.
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Deadpool_18
02/18/18 1:17:17 AM
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The movie was fucking good.
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Muffinz0rz
02/18/18 12:20:48 PM
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L0Z posted...
I found it racist against YTs

is he ever going to clarify this
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L0Z
02/18/18 1:52:52 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
L0Z posted...
I found it racist against YTs

is he ever going to clarify this


Y-T

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DezDroppedFreak
02/18/18 2:19:31 PM
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But how
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koalabear9301
02/18/18 2:21:02 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
The movie was fucking good.

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L0Z
02/18/18 2:57:16 PM
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Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.
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Smogal
02/18/18 3:06:09 PM
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Hmm.. Seems like everyone either thinks the movie is at least decent or great so far.
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DezDroppedFreak
02/18/18 3:31:24 PM
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L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene
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orcus_snake
02/18/18 4:21:28 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene


I mean, I noticed that along with those the guy touches tchalla and he goes ewwww he tocuhed me with the side glance, it's obviously going for the reverse of what people usually do agaisnt black people and I understood the point that they are trying to make but stop doing it every couple of fucking seconds jesus fucking christ.

Cause yeah, in the end he helps a ton and all is good m I rite guys? but those scenes still happened, and I'm not even white, I'm latino. I think the scenes where the white cannot fathom the level of tech these "suppossed savages" can yield is enough of a point to make wihout having to be dicks to the one white dude bumblin about lol.
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lilORANG
02/18/18 4:23:54 PM
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I thought it was perfectly serviceable. Probably middle-tier MCU (which means it's still good). Some really good performances (mainly from Serkis and Jordan), and Kilmonger was a cool character, but it did feel pretty run-of-the-mill in terms of where the story went and how it was resolved.
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KingCrabCake
02/18/18 4:26:43 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

Except the last one
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KingCrabCake
02/18/18 4:29:43 PM
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It was a solid movie. Just was a bit too predictable for it to be amazing. Killmonger saved the film for me. Without his performance i think the movie would have been one of the worst mcu films
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Turtlebread
02/18/18 4:30:45 PM
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ragnarok wasn't even that good and still managed to be better than BP
BP was meh
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ASithLord7
02/18/18 4:31:24 PM
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Turtlebread posted...
ragnarok wasn't even that good

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boxington
02/18/18 4:31:48 PM
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Turtlebread posted...
ragnarok wasn't even that good and still managed to be better than BP
BP was meh

disagree on all points
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Darmik
02/18/18 4:31:49 PM
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orcus_snake posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene


I mean, I noticed that along with those the guy touches tchalla and he goes ewwww he tocuhed me with the side glance, it's obviously going for the reverse of what people usually do agaisnt black people and I understood the point that they are trying to make but stop doing it every couple of fucking seconds jesus fucking christ.

Cause yeah, in the end he helps a ton and all is good m I rite guys? but those scenes still happened, and I'm not even white, I'm latino. I think the scenes where the white cannot fathom the level of tech these "suppossed savages" can yield is enough of a point to make wihout having to be dicks to the one white dude bumblin about lol.


It should be obvious in the context of the movie why Wakandan's wouldn't be quick to trust him.
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Akagami_Shanks
02/18/18 4:35:58 PM
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I cannot fathom why a king of a nation would not want to be touched like he's a child by a CIA guy.

People really are trying hard to lobby against BP lol
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orcus_snake
02/18/18 5:20:43 PM
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Darmik posted...
orcus_snake posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene


I mean, I noticed that along with those the guy touches tchalla and he goes ewwww he tocuhed me with the side glance, it's obviously going for the reverse of what people usually do agaisnt black people and I understood the point that they are trying to make but stop doing it every couple of fucking seconds jesus fucking christ.

Cause yeah, in the end he helps a ton and all is good m I rite guys? but those scenes still happened, and I'm not even white, I'm latino. I think the scenes where the white cannot fathom the level of tech these "suppossed savages" can yield is enough of a point to make wihout having to be dicks to the one white dude bumblin about lol.


It should be obvious in the context of the movie why Wakandan's wouldn't be quick to trust him.


It's not about the context of the scene but the number of sitiations the film makers introduced into the movie, as I have already numbered.
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Funbazooka
02/18/18 5:23:20 PM
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Black PANDER
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JJH777
02/18/18 5:47:43 PM
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I enjoyed it quite a bit but I do think it had some issues. I wish they explored the city in Wakanda more. I feel like it could have just used another 10-15 minutes in general. Some extra time spent world building and some extra time with Killmonger. More time with him as the king would have been good.
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lilORANG
02/18/18 5:52:13 PM
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interesting. I thought it was too long. Most of the action scenes weren't very engaging and went on too long. Probably could have shortened the whole South Korea bit too. Get rid of some of that gunk and it would have felt much more satisfying.
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KingCrabCake
02/18/18 5:57:26 PM
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orcus_snake posted...
Darmik posted...
orcus_snake posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene


I mean, I noticed that along with those the guy touches tchalla and he goes ewwww he tocuhed me with the side glance, it's obviously going for the reverse of what people usually do agaisnt black people and I understood the point that they are trying to make but stop doing it every couple of fucking seconds jesus fucking christ.

Cause yeah, in the end he helps a ton and all is good m I rite guys? but those scenes still happened, and I'm not even white, I'm latino. I think the scenes where the white cannot fathom the level of tech these "suppossed savages" can yield is enough of a point to make wihout having to be dicks to the one white dude bumblin about lol.


It should be obvious in the context of the movie why Wakandan's wouldn't be quick to trust him.


It's not about the context of the scene but the number of sitiations the film makers introduced into the movie, as I have already numbered.


No you're reaching
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orcus_snake
02/18/18 8:05:29 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
orcus_snake posted...
Darmik posted...
orcus_snake posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
L0Z posted...
Well the good white guy in the movie was called a "colonizer", referred to as "broken white boy", and barked at and threatened to be fed to dogs for speaking and then laughed at.

How is it not racist. The movie was good other than that.

...That's not racist

Second thing was also a setup for the post-credits scene


I mean, I noticed that along with those the guy touches tchalla and he goes ewwww he tocuhed me with the side glance, it's obviously going for the reverse of what people usually do agaisnt black people and I understood the point that they are trying to make but stop doing it every couple of fucking seconds jesus fucking christ.

Cause yeah, in the end he helps a ton and all is good m I rite guys? but those scenes still happened, and I'm not even white, I'm latino. I think the scenes where the white cannot fathom the level of tech these "suppossed savages" can yield is enough of a point to make wihout having to be dicks to the one white dude bumblin about lol.


It should be obvious in the context of the movie why Wakandan's wouldn't be quick to trust him.


It's not about the context of the scene but the number of sitiations the film makers introduced into the movie, as I have already numbered.


No you're reaching


It woudl be reaching if it was a couple of scens, this is more than 5 scenes of that stuff, it was jarring to say the least.
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Tyranthraxus
02/18/18 8:17:08 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok

It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok
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prettyprincess
02/18/18 8:18:12 PM
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I watched Ingmar Bergman's The Magician last night
how would you say they compare?
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FLUFFYGERM
02/18/18 8:19:37 PM
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The trailer made it seem like it was going to be a lot more gritty and badass. Most of it was not gritty or badass. I enjoyed it but also was disappointed at the CGI, the boring main villain, how they got rid of the good villain too fast, and the annoying politicizing.

The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.

If it wasn't for the narrative and the boring CGI it would've been great. And if the main villain was better, it would've been awesome. It dropped the ball hard. Still better than all three Thor movies though.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/18/18 8:20:02 PM
#43:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
It was definitely better than all the Thor films.

imagine thinking BP was better than Ragnarok

It absolutely totally was better than Ragnarok


Yeah Ragnarok was garbage
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Tyranthraxus
02/18/18 8:22:06 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
The trailer made it seem like it was going to be a lot more gritty and badass. Most of it was not gritty or badass. I enjoyed it but also was disappointed at the CGI, the boring main villain, how they got rid of the good villain too fast, and the annoying politicizing.

The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.

If it wasn't for the narrative and the boring CGI it would've been great. And if the main villain was better, it would've been awesome. It dropped the ball hard. Still better than all three Thor movies though.


killmonger is literally the only interesting villain in the entire MCU.

I'm actually kind of sad that he's dead
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FLUFFYGERM
02/18/18 8:25:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The trailer made it seem like it was going to be a lot more gritty and badass. Most of it was not gritty or badass. I enjoyed it but also was disappointed at the CGI, the boring main villain, how they got rid of the good villain too fast, and the annoying politicizing.

The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.

If it wasn't for the narrative and the boring CGI it would've been great. And if the main villain was better, it would've been awesome. It dropped the ball hard. Still better than all three Thor movies though.


killmonger is literally the only interesting villain in the entire MCU.

I'm actually kind of sad that he's dead


I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though.
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Tyranthraxus
02/18/18 8:33:47 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though.

No I mean exclusively for the movies.

He's a villain you can actually sympathize with.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/18/18 8:34:41 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though.

No I mean exclusively for the movies.

He's a villain you can actually sympathize with.


Vulture from Spiderman was by FAR the best villain in the Marvel movies thus far.
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Darmik
02/18/18 8:35:13 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.


It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't.

Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie.
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Scaramanga
02/18/18 8:36:54 PM
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I went today and the theater was filled with black people.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/18/18 8:38:16 PM
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Darmik posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The usual suspects are going to call you racist if you complain about the politicizing but it was definitely a flaw in the film. Calling white people "colonizers" just because they're white is pretty stupid.


It's a major justification for why Wakanda is isolated and also a major part of Killmonger's motivation so no it isn't.

Removing that is taking away the teeth of the movie.


What?
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Tyranthraxus
02/18/18 8:38:22 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
I haven't read the comics so I don't know anything about that. I was pretty disappointed though.

No I mean exclusively for the movies.

He's a villain you can actually sympathize with.


Vulture from Spiderman was by FAR the best villain in the Marvel movies thus far.

He's good but I still like killmonger better.

Vulture's feud with Spider-Man was manufactured. killmonger was motivated his entire life because of a personal vendetta.
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