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byrone
02/16/18 5:44:46 AM
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byrone
02/16/18 12:22:46 PM
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 12:24:51 PM
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It is sad that the press isnt making a bigger deal out of this sort and confronting Peggy sanders about it
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I Like Toast
02/16/18 12:25:40 PM
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And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.
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soulunison2
02/16/18 12:26:44 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.


Spoken with truth
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spudger
02/16/18 12:26:51 PM
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the white supremist part is worse than the trumpeter part
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_TheBlueMonk
02/16/18 12:30:16 PM
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i dont remember anyone shooting up a school in Obama's name
or bush's name
or clinton's name
or bush's name
etc.
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ThanksUglyGod
02/16/18 12:30:50 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.

This is America, our social issues ARE our political issues.

But gun violence legitimately IS a political issue.
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Cosmic_Diabetic
02/16/18 12:34:17 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.


Saying "adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress" itself is what stops progress. Progress is accomplished THROUGH POLITICS. All you are doing when you say things like this is shutting down any meaningful way of preventing mass shootings in the future. We have to talk about them including gun control because that IS the way to make them stop. Stopping mass shootings has to start with legislation. And to make legislation pass bills guess what you have to do. Talk about it. By shutting down the conversation about gun control you are essentially making sure nothing happens and more mass shootings will happen in the future.
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Capn Circus
02/16/18 12:34:38 PM
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Dammit why couldn't of he been wearing a stronger together shirt???
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FightingGames
02/16/18 12:34:56 PM
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HeyPuff
02/16/18 12:35:24 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.


Its only a political issue if its a liberal
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 12:40:52 PM
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spudger posted...
the white supremist part is worse than the trumpeter part


They overlap greatly
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byrone
02/16/18 12:41:03 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.

They're both.

Wow, your posts keep getting worse.
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spudger
02/16/18 12:42:33 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
spudger posted...
the white supremist part is worse than the trumpeter part


They overlap greatly

sadly, yes.
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 12:49:00 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
And? If he was a Bernie bro would it be less tragic? Adding politics to this is why no one has been able to make meaningful progress.

Shootings aren't a political issue, they're a social issue.


Because Bernies platform was about guns and to hate on minorities? No? Then shut up.
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I Like Toast
02/16/18 1:32:24 PM
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
All you are doing when you say things like this is shutting down any meaningful way of preventing mass shootings in the future

What progress is going to be made by going, "see its just the conservatives fault!". All it does is entrench the other side and force them to dig in.

Turning it into a us vs them thing is the dumbest thing you can do. Unite behind the tragedy to find a solution rather than point fingers and say nuh-uh it's your fault!
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CADE FOSTER
02/16/18 1:47:02 PM
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medzz
02/16/18 1:47:59 PM
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It is official. Hats kill. All this time I thought it was the gun
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 2:09:38 PM
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medzz posted...
It is official. Hats kill. All this time I thought it was the gun


Nah its the thoughts inside the heads holding those hats
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s0nicfan
02/16/18 2:12:00 PM
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spudger posted...
the white supremist part is worse than the trumpeter part


The white supremacist part was a 4chan trolling effort, though.

See:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43071710
US media quote the head of white supremacist group the Republic of Florida Jordan Jereb as saying Mr Cruz had once trained with them, but the group had not wanted or ordered him to carry out a school shooting.

However local media later reported that investigators had been unable to find any link between Mr Cruz and the ROF.


http://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/02/15/
florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-member-white-nationalist-
militia-tallahassee-leader-say/341751002/
In a profanity-laced post hours later on a social media site, an account bearing Jereb's name said the whole thing was a "legit misunderstanding," saying they have more than one member named Nikolas. He also said he not slept "for like 2 days."


Jordan Jereb, the leader of the Republic of Florida Militia (ROF), a white nationalist hate group that we have been monitoring, earlier today claimed that Nikolas Cruz, the suspect in the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, is a member of his group. Hours after claiming a connection to Cruz, Jereb said he had been misunderstood.

On its website, the ROF describes itself as a white civil rights organization fighting for white Identitarian politics, And the ultimate creation of a white ethnostate so we can be free from anti-white policies and have policies that reflect our values as white westerners. The ROF Militia is the armed forces of the Republic Of Florida.

Jereb initially claimed that Cruz was a member, that he had participated in one or more ROF training exercises in the Tallahassee area, and that he carpooled with other members from South Florida. Though the link was reported by several news organizations, the SPLC has not confirmed it.

It may seem odd that Jereb would bring attention to his group by claiming a connection to Cruz, but Jereb has always been somewhat of a publicity seeker. In 2014, in fact, he wrote us to complain that we had not already listed ROF as a hate group. In April 2017, Michael Tubbs, the leader of the Florida chapter of the League of the South, a well-known hate group, wrote that Jereb never misses a photo op and called him a nut job who should be avoided.


Also from the ADL itself:
https://www.adl.org/blog/florida-white-supremacist-group-admits-ties-to-alleged-parkland-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz
After self-described ROF members claimed on the discussion forum 4chan that Cruz had also been a member, the Anti-Defamation League spoke with an ROF member who identified himself as Jordan Jereb.

UPDATE: On Thursday afternoon, following news reports of the alleged association between Cruz and the Republic of Florida, a member of an alt right discussion forum wrote that all of the claims were false and were part of an elaborate attempt to troll a network news reporter and other media outlets. At a press conference Thursday afternoon, the Broward County sheriff said a connection was not confirmed at this time, but that law enforcement was still investigating.

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Galcian
02/16/18 2:12:56 PM
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> white supremacist
> kills mainly white people
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 2:18:36 PM
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Galcian posted...
> white supremacist
> kills mainly white people


You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?
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Galcian
02/16/18 2:24:42 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?

Why is this about me? Also if TC makes the association that Trump voters are the same as mass murderer trash I do feel the obligation to point out something fishy here.
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byrone
02/16/18 2:27:17 PM
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Galcian posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?

Why is this about me? Also if TC makes the association that Trump voters are the same as mass murderer trash I do feel the obligation to point out something fishy here.

All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.
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Funbazooka
02/16/18 2:28:46 PM
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I wear a MAGA hat every day
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Funbazooka
02/16/18 2:30:42 PM
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Galcian
02/16/18 2:31:34 PM
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byrone posted...
All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.

I thought general narrative though was MAGA = Trump = white supremacist. Maybe I am assuming too many things
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Banjo2553
02/16/18 2:35:52 PM
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byrone posted...
Galcian posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?

Why is this about me? Also if TC makes the association that Trump voters are the same as mass murderer trash I do feel the obligation to point out something fishy here.

All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.

Don't play the fool, man. You knew exactly what would happen by "pointing out" that he was wearing a MAGA hat. :p
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byrone
02/16/18 2:35:53 PM
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If he had a hillary shirt rightists would be all over this lmao
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Nomadic View
02/16/18 2:37:46 PM
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Source?
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byrone
02/16/18 2:40:06 PM
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Nomadic View
02/16/18 2:42:29 PM
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byrone posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Source?

https://www.snopes.com/did-shooters-instagram-picture-maga-hat/


Thanks.
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byrone
02/16/18 3:02:04 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
byrone posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Source?

https://www.snopes.com/did-shooters-instagram-picture-maga-hat/


Thanks.

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a42ozslushie
02/16/18 3:07:58 PM
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byrone posted...
If he had a hillary shirt rightists would be all over this lmao

So basically you're admitting that you stoop to level of Trumpanzees.

Pathetic.
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byrone
02/16/18 3:09:49 PM
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a42ozslushie posted...
byrone posted...
If he had a hillary shirt rightists would be all over this lmao

So basically you're admitting that you stoop to level of Trumpanzees.

Pathetic.

I'm not "all over this" though.

I just posted a fact.

Pathetic attempt at a "Gotcha!"

Sad!
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thanosibe
02/16/18 3:11:53 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
byrone posted...
Galcian posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?

Why is this about me? Also if TC makes the association that Trump voters are the same as mass murderer trash I do feel the obligation to point out something fishy here.

All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.

Don't play the fool, man. You knew exactly what would happen by "pointing out" that he was wearing a MAGA hat. :p
Well that is what trolls do. Bait and hope for bites. TC has no intention of engaging in meaningful discussion. Just like many of the other baiting topics shitting this site up have been for the last few days.
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byrone
02/16/18 3:13:27 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
byrone posted...
Galcian posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
You have been damage controlling the heck out of this for days. Is there something you want to tell us? Are you one of them MAGA/fine people on both sides guys?

Why is this about me? Also if TC makes the association that Trump voters are the same as mass murderer trash I do feel the obligation to point out something fishy here.

All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.

Don't play the fool, man. You knew exactly what would happen by "pointing out" that he was wearing a MAGA hat. :p

It's not my fault if people get triggered by facts. Here's someone right here who is very triggered:

thanosibe posted...
Well that is what trolls do. Bait and hope for bites. TC has no intention of engaging in meaningful discussion. Just like many of the other baiting topics shitting this site up have been for the last few days

Look at how upset you are just because I posted a fact. You need to get control of your emotions.
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 3:26:05 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
I wear a MAGA hat every day


Check all that apply :

[ ] Hates Hispanics
[ ] Hates Muslims
[ ] Hates black people
[ ] Feels bad for Nikolas Cruz
[ ] All of the above
[ ] Is trolling and will find a way to say none of these boxes apply to him when in reality at least one have to apply
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 3:28:40 PM
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Galcian posted...
byrone posted...
All I said was he was wearing a MAGA hat. The triggering that followed was not up to me.

I thought general narrative though was MAGA = Trump = white supremacist. Maybe I am assuming too many things


Nobody said this . HIGH overlap does not equal being equal to.
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metralo
02/16/18 3:29:38 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I wear a MAGA hat every day


Check all that apply :

[ ] Hates Hispanics
[ ] Hates Muslims
[ ] Hates black people
[ ] Feels bad for Nikolas Cruz
[ ] All of the above
[ ] Is trolling and will find a way to say none of these boxes apply to him when in reality at least one have to apply


given his posting history, all of the above is the correct answer
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 3:33:02 PM
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metralo posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I wear a MAGA hat every day


Check all that apply :

[ ] Hates Hispanics
[ ] Hates Muslims
[ ] Hates black people
[ ] Feels bad for Nikolas Cruz
[ ] All of the above
[ ] Is trolling and will find a way to say none of these boxes apply to him when in reality at least one have to apply


given his posting history, all of the above is the correct answer


Confirmed then, thanks
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Giant_Aspirin
02/16/18 3:37:31 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
All you are doing when you say things like this is shutting down any meaningful way of preventing mass shootings in the future

What progress is going to be made by going, "see its just the conservatives fault!". All it does is entrench the other side and force them to dig in.

Turning it into a us vs them thing is the dumbest thing you can do. Unite behind the tragedy to find a solution rather than point fingers and say nuh-uh it's your fault!


while i really would love to agree with this, the solution is going to be inherently political because it must be done via legislation
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AlisLandale
02/16/18 3:43:52 PM
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As much as can be correlated between radical right-wing ideology and this violence, I feel like bringing up his political affilation wouldn't help.

Was he violent because he was a radical? Or did his violent tendencies make him more likely to fall into a radical ideology? Is this political affiliation a motivation for his actions, or expression of them?

It's good that this tragedy hasn't become about Trump.
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byrone
02/16/18 3:59:27 PM
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sad
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twitterfriends
02/16/18 4:01:33 PM
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I have friends and family in Florida so it's real upsetting there's crazy Trump supporters and white supremacy is still a big problem down there.
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Funbazooka
02/16/18 4:02:21 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I wear a MAGA hat every day


Check all that apply :

[ ] Hates Hispanics
[ ] Hates Muslims
[ ] Hates black people
[ ] Feels bad for Nikolas Cruz
[ ] All of the above
[ ] Is trolling and will find a way to say none of these boxes apply to him when in reality at least one have to apply

Careful now, you're making me angry and I'm reaching for my MAGA hat.
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Shuto-uke
02/16/18 4:04:21 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I wear a MAGA hat every day


Check all that apply :

[ ] Hates Hispanics
[ ] Hates Muslims
[ ] Hates black people
[ ] Feels bad for Nikolas Cruz
[ ] All of the above
[ ] Is trolling and will find a way to say none of these boxes apply to him when in reality at least one have to apply

Careful now, you're making me angry and I'm reaching for my MAGA hat.


Do you think it works like the bat signal? Lol
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I Like Toast
02/16/18 4:40:29 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
the solution is going to be inherently political because it must be done via legislation

Right. That part is true, but it can't, and won't, be a "republican" or "democratic" solution, because even if one of them is a legitimate good solution, the fact that it's the "other side" idea will stop it from happening
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