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Kineth
02/15/18 3:43:06 PM
#204:


Galcian posted...
Antifar posted...
Galcian posted...
I thought he was a Mexican

You were mistaken

Cruz is Latino last name. Maybe something like Cuba or Central America


Jesus fucking Christ it's been said multiple times in this thread that the guy was adopted.
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Mal_Fet
02/15/18 3:43:06 PM
#205:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Idk man. You start saying bad stuff about admitted white supremacists and neo-nazis and he always flies to their defense for god knows why.

Quote a post where I defended white supremacists and/or neo-nazis.
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A_Good_Boy
02/15/18 3:47:39 PM
#206:


Mal_Fet posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Idk man. You start saying bad stuff about admitted white supremacists and neo-nazis and he always flies to their defense for god knows why.

Quote a post where I defended white supremacists and/or neo-nazis.

Cite the topic bashing them that you didn't rush to deflect attention away from them.
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Rad_Chad
02/15/18 3:49:09 PM
#207:


Caution999 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
But blm and antifa D:


Misunderstood and peaceful movements that have never harmed a fly nor would ever harm a fly.

Lol!!
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Shuto-uke
02/15/18 3:52:48 PM
#208:


CrimsonRage posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Mal seems to be going around and around trying to deflect from a white surprmacist group training a killer. Shocker.


I guess that means mal accepts that he sympathizes with such groups ? I find no other reason why he would ty to deflect from this so hard


it means deep down mal knows white supremacists/nazis are right-leaning and he naturally has to defend rightists, no matter what.

Uh

Where have I defended white supremacists here? Is asking why they'd accept a hispanic person a defense of them, in your simple little heads?


you didn't defend but you did your usual deflection garbage instead of just saying "man this guy is fucked up" or something
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Galcian
02/15/18 3:54:07 PM
#209:


what would be this kid's logic in training in white supremacist group if he isn't white himself?
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Heineken14
02/15/18 3:54:25 PM
#210:


Galcian posted...
what would be this kid's logic in training in white supremacist group if he isn't white himself?


Why do you assume he's not white?
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Shuto-uke
02/15/18 3:54:36 PM
#211:


Kineth posted...
Galcian posted...
Antifar posted...
Galcian posted...
I thought he was a Mexican

You were mistaken

Cruz is Latino last name. Maybe something like Cuba or Central America


Jesus fucking Christ it's been said multiple times in this thread that the guy was adopted.


Galcian and mal_fet are trying too hard to deflect from this. Not a good look for them
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Galcian
02/15/18 3:55:05 PM
#212:


Heineken14 posted...
Galcian posted...
what would be this kid's logic in training in white supremacist group if he isn't white himself?


Why do you assume he's not white?

His name, facial structure
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A_Good_Boy
02/15/18 3:55:37 PM
#213:


Galcian posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Galcian posted...
what would be this kid's logic in training in white supremacist group if he isn't white himself?


Why do you assume he's not white?

His name, facial structure

lol wat
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Heineken14
02/15/18 3:55:59 PM
#214:


Galcian posted...
Heineken14 posted...
Galcian posted...
what would be this kid's logic in training in white supremacist group if he isn't white himself?


Why do you assume he's not white?

His name, facial structure


His name from his adoptive parents? That name?

And his facial structure looks Eastern European to me, which fits as supposedly he is Russian.
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Axiom
02/15/18 3:56:49 PM
#215:


Galcian is obviously trolling given that people have repeatedly said he was adopted and he still is ignoring it
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uwnim
02/15/18 4:10:09 PM
#216:


Caution999 posted...
Nothing is false, but you love to make it appear that white supremacy is this HUGE nationwide problem when you know it's not even 1%

Then shut up and stop bitching. If it was fake, then by all means call it out. If you yourself accept it is true then dont throw a fit.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/18 4:10:40 PM
#217:


Anteaterking posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Now the mystery is how hispanic parents managed to raise a white supremacist


The idea that white supremacists are logically consistent is laughable.

There are plenty of these type of people who think that all minorities should be killed but somehow that doesn't include a handful of people who they actually feel a connection to.


Dylan roof is a good example. I read somewhere that he had black friends that he would get drunk with in his trailer park who he was actually pretty close to.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/18 4:13:28 PM
#218:


Axiom posted...
Galcian is obviously trolling given that people have repeatedly said he was adopted and he still is ignoring it

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DezDroppedFreak
02/15/18 4:14:14 PM
#219:


Caution999 posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
_Near_ posted...
As a country we've shown that we're not willing to take steps to curb right wing terrorism. It outnumbers Islamic terrorism 2 to 1, but we're too busy trying to ban Muslims to care about that.


LMAO bullshit


lmao nice race baiting topic, Anti. Fucking pathetic, dude.


How on earth is stating this guy was associated with a white nationalist group, something that shouldn't allow him to legally purchase a gun, race baiting
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davyheinz
02/15/18 4:15:46 PM
#220:


Caution is warned now, so dont expect a response right away
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DezDroppedFreak
02/15/18 4:15:54 PM
#221:


Caution999 posted...
Nothing is false, but you love to make it appear that white supremacy is this HUGE nationwide problem when you know it's not even 1%

Hi. I live in the south. It's a pretty big problem here.
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Galcian
02/15/18 4:19:54 PM
#222:


It is odd that there is no official "Republic of Florida (ROF)" website or anything. The wikipedia article that exists

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Florida&action=history

for several years redirected to an article for an independent state that existed on Florida before being becoming part of the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_East_Florida
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Waluigi7
02/15/18 4:28:44 PM
#223:


You guys do realize Caution only says this stuff to troll right
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/18 4:30:06 PM
#224:


Galcian posted...
*deflects again*

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Axiom
02/15/18 4:35:36 PM
#225:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Galcian posted...
*deflects again*

It's not even a good deflection considering I'm looking at the link on google to their home website right now

https://www.google.com/search?q=republic+of+florida&oq=republic+of+florida&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i61l2j69i60.2864j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Nos sumus in posterum 850-601-5028 24 Hour ROF HOTLINE "That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish." - David Lane Important Information: ROF FAQ 10 Codes Of ROF ROF Infographics Trying to be ROF? Get these items Women of ROF ROF Conquistadors National


Description of the google link
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/18 4:44:36 PM
#226:


Axiom posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Galcian posted...
*deflects again*

It's not even a good deflection considering I'm looking at the link on google to their home website right now

https://www.google.com/search?q=republic+of+florida&oq=republic+of+florida&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i61l2j69i60.2864j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Nos sumus in posterum 850-601-5028 24 Hour ROF HOTLINE "That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish." - David Lane Important Information: ROF FAQ 10 Codes Of ROF ROF Infographics Trying to be ROF? Get these items Women of ROF ROF Conquistadors National


Description of the google link


Not to mention his source is wikipedia, which alt-righters don't acknowledge. I know one on another board (a Bulgarian who has never been to America) who, when confronted (about criticizing Wikipedia as a source) with "the article has 400 links from other sources," claimed all of those sources were fake news. You'd think said user is just a troll, but I've known him and interacted with him on and off for the last 15 years, and it's clear by now that he legit believes what he says. This glacian guy is a different story though.
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Galcian
02/15/18 5:07:38 PM
#227:


OK so I was wrong about Cruz's ethnicity. What I was pointing out with the Wikipedia link is that I couldn't even find their website, so it must be a low-quality group even independent of its white supremacist views; most groups have something on the Internet that represents them. When I searched Google it never came up for me.

When I searched "Nos sumus in posterum 850-601-5028 24 Hour ROF HOTLINE "That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish." - David Lane Important Information: ROF FAQ 10 Codes Of ROF ROF Infographics Trying to be ROF? Get these items Women of ROF ROF Conquistadors National" I did find it.

I am not alt-right though and I think what Cruz did was definitely horrible and he deserves to be punished.
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Taloquin1914
02/15/18 5:17:38 PM
#228:


Be interested to find if this is true. I've also seen conflicting "reports" of him being a democrat, republican, and a dreamer (which was shown to be false on fact check).
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CableZL
02/15/18 5:19:51 PM
#229:


Taloquin1914 posted...
Be interested to find if this is true. I've also seen conflicting "reports" of him being a democrat, republican, and a dreamer (which was shown to be false on fact check).


That's because there are two names being thrown around. The person arrested was Nikolas Jacob Cruz, but people (and some media outlets) are also throwing around the name Nicolas de Jesus Cruz, which is someone else.
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Galcian
02/15/18 5:21:43 PM
#230:


Most of the victims look white to me but I am not good at identifying race.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200220844.html
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Bio1590
02/15/18 5:22:40 PM
#231:


Pretty sure there's photos of him with a MAGA hat so I mean
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Bio1590
02/15/18 5:24:30 PM
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NinjaBreakfast
02/15/18 5:32:10 PM
#233:


The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

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NINExATExSEVEN
02/15/18 5:32:46 PM
#234:


Galcian posted...
Most of the victims look white to me but I am not good at identifying race.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200220844.html


Yea that's what's off. Why would a racial supremacist kill his own people?
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Ammonitida
02/15/18 5:33:46 PM
#235:


Galcian posted...
Most of the victims look white to me but I am not good at identifying race.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200220844.html


No one is claiming he was racially motivated. Being socially isolated he might have looked for groups to belong to, including far right extremist groups. McViegh did at one point too. Obviously this Cruz guy found no home with any such group.
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JustMonika
02/15/18 5:33:57 PM
#236:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Yea that's what's off. Why would a racial supremacist kill his own people?

I'm sure someone on The_Donald or 4chan will tie it to Hillary for you.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/18 5:36:33 PM
#237:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.

The Admiral posted...
Good. "Resist white supremacy" is not only nonsense, it's typically code by Antifa shitheads and far-leftists to support their violent tantrums.


Wtf how did I miss that post?
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Galcian
02/15/18 5:40:52 PM
#238:


His mom died too as recently as a few months ago

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-school-shooting-cruz-20180214-story.html

That may have been what pushed him over the edge
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_Near_
02/15/18 5:42:01 PM
#239:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Wtf how did I miss that post?


it's in another topic where he also claimed that white supremacy isn't an issue in the u.s.
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Re-iNcarnated
02/15/18 5:52:40 PM
#240:


Galcian posted...
OK so I was wrong about Cruz's ethnicity. What I was pointing out with the Wikipedia link is that I couldn't even find their website, so it must be a low-quality group even independent of its white supremacist views; most groups have something on the Internet that represents them. When I searched Google it never came up for me.

When I searched "Nos sumus in posterum 850-601-5028 24 Hour ROF HOTLINE "That race whose males will not fight to death to keep and mate with their females will perish." - David Lane Important Information: ROF FAQ 10 Codes Of ROF ROF Infographics Trying to be ROF? Get these items Women of ROF ROF Conquistadors National" I did find it.

I am not alt-right though and I think what Cruz did was definitely horrible and he deserves to be punished.


Whenever someone tries to reassure people they are not something, I instantly think they have listening to Trump's speeches.

Ergo stop. It doesn't help your case.
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Re-iNcarnated
02/15/18 5:54:27 PM
#241:


All I have to say is, man I can't believe this is 2018. I really hope we never achieve space travel, we don't need any of this infecting the rest of the galaxy.
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Axiom
02/15/18 6:10:18 PM
#242:


NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Galcian posted...
Most of the victims look white to me but I am not good at identifying race.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200220844.html


Yea that's what's off. Why would a racial supremacist kill his own people?

You say that like WW2 nazis had any problem steam rolling and killing "their own people" during the war. Plenty of white supremacists have no problem with calling other white people enemies for whatever reason. Maybe they believe they are "race traitors" for accepting minorities or perhaps they just see them as the enemy simply because they aren't white supremacists

That said this is most likely not racially motivated. He's a psycho that happened to be a white supremacist and decided to take out his rage on innocent people
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Ammonitida
02/15/18 6:19:00 PM
#243:


Jereb is backtracking. This is looking like another 4chan trolljob.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/15/adl-shooter-participated-training-white-supremacist-group/

Now Jordan Jereb is claiming this was all a big misunderstanding:
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BillyKidd
02/15/18 6:24:29 PM
#244:


lol, didn't take long. So Topic is #FakeNews
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Shuto-uke
02/15/18 6:27:18 PM
#245:


BillyKidd posted...
lol, didn't take long. So Topic is #FakeNews


The maga cap pic is real. Get wrecked
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Axiom
02/15/18 6:34:36 PM
#246:


Ammonitida posted...
Jereb is backtracking. This is looking like another 4chan trolljob.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/15/adl-shooter-participated-training-white-supremacist-group/

Now Jordan Jereb is claiming this was all a big misunderstanding:

To be fair he could also be scared shitless now that he realized he's going to have every governmental alphabet up his ass for the rest of his life. Both his ideals and theirs match up perfectly though trying to connect them to the actual shooting is stupid. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes out

I'm still confident in at least calling him a racists given his use of slurs
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BillyKidd
02/15/18 6:37:37 PM
#247:


Shuto-uke posted...
BillyKidd posted...
lol, didn't take long. So Topic is #FakeNews


The maga cap pic is real. Get wrecked


Topic states Fla shoot went to this white supremacist thing in TN, reports now coming out the head of that "camp" lied so he could get free press to push his hate speech. Lrn2Reed
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Ammonitida
02/15/18 6:39:28 PM
#249:


Axiom posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Jereb is backtracking. This is looking like another 4chan trolljob.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/15/adl-shooter-participated-training-white-supremacist-group/

Now Jordan Jereb is claiming this was all a big misunderstanding:

To be fair he could also be scared shitless now that he realized he's going to have every governmental alphabet up his ass for the rest of his life. Both his ideals and theirs match up perfectly though trying to connect them to the actual shooting is stupid. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes out

I'm still confident in at least calling him a racists given his use of slurs


This whole affair began on 4chan. Not a place for trustworthy sources. Also, according to SPLC, he's a desperate attention seeker, once begging them to list his group in their databases. Not a credible at all.
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Bio1590
02/15/18 6:59:56 PM
#251:


Guess I was wrong. Definitely didn't expect him to be that stupid.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/15/18 7:20:23 PM
#252:


Every time something like this comes out in the news nowadays, you get people trying to claim it's "actually a 4chan hoax!".

Again this often reeks of attempted misinformation.
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s0nicfan
02/15/18 7:38:30 PM
#253:


NinjaBreakfast posted...
Every time something like this comes out in the news nowadays, you get people trying to claim it's "actually a 4chan hoax!".

Again this often reeks of attempted misinformation.


https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/964237375466479616
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