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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:01:09 AM #102: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Banning guns is literally the dumbest solution to this You use assault rifles to feed your family? What are you, a merc? And okay, why is this talked about and never followed up on? All I hear from the right is "thoughts and prayers." --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:02:10 AM #103: |
"all I ever hear from the right is thoughts and prayers"
Who, on the right, has even mentioned that in this topic? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 02/15/18 10:02:11 AM #104: |
NinjaBreakfast posted...
Caution999 posted...We get it. You value human lives and yeah, shockingly, most of us do. Don't forget his whole 9/11 didn't involve guns thing. Because 9/11 is totally on the same level as shootings done by US citizens. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/15/18 10:03:36 AM #105: |
Zodd3224 posted...
You use assault rifles to feed your family? Is a .223 even useful for killing a deer? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SavenForever 02/15/18 10:04:51 AM #106: |
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:04:58 AM #107: |
It demonstrates what HUMANS will do if they really want to inflict pain and torture. The terrorists were human. Humans are intelligent beings and we're gonna figure out a way to cause destruction. It could be thru obtaining firearms illegally, it could be creating or obtaining a bomb, it could be with a vehicle, it could be with other weapons, it could be setting a fire, chemical warfare, biological warfare, it could be ANYTHING. Humans are intelligent enough to go around your roadblocks to cause destruction if they really wanted to.
--- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LJRENEGADE 02/15/18 10:06:16 AM #108: |
Banning guns is impossible, there's too many guns in the country already and trying to take everyones' would create a lot more problems that need solutions before the former is even attempted. It wouldn't be as simple as just passing a law to ban guns.
I get that people are upset about stuff like this and think some sort of solution should be made to try and prevent these types of things, but wanting to ban guns is just a knee jerk reaction that wouldn't really work or be possible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:06:19 AM #109: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Banning guns is literally the dumbest solution to this No People don't use assault rifiles to shoot up schools either so I'm not sure what your point there is Besides you said ban all guns, which would obviously mean the ones I use --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 02/15/18 10:06:30 AM #110: |
Truly the ultimate principled small government viewpoint
"get rid of everything, people are just going to get around it anyway!" --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:07:24 AM #111: |
Caution999 posted...
"all I ever hear from the right is thoughts and prayers" Your right wing government reps never bring up any of those points. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:10:24 AM #112: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Banning guns is literally the dumbest solution to this LoL, so what is an AR-15 then? A pistol? And I'm sorry I wasnt more clear, I wasnt referring to handguns and hunting rifles. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/15/18 10:13:34 AM #113: |
Zodd3224 posted...
LoL, so what is an AR-15 then? A pistol? "Assault rifle" has a very vague and fluid definition. No army that takes itself seriously would arm its soldiers with AR-15s. Most mercenaries wouldn't either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:13:46 AM #114: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Banning guns is literally the dumbest solution to this Obviously its not a pistol Its not an assault rifile either. You do know the AR doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle" right? --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:16:05 AM #115: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Banning guns is literally the dumbest solution to this Its close enough. Its not fully automatic, big whoop. Point is it kills a lot of people very quickly. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:19:44 AM #116: |
Caution999 posted...
If Guns didnt exist that person finds another way to murder. i know im super late to this topic, but i fucking hate this argument. take away guns and people are left with much less efficient means of killing another. it's trivially simple to kill someone with a gun, even a toddler can do it. however, give a toddler a knife and see how many grown men he can kill with it versus giving him a handgun. guns are dangerous because they allow one to kill another effortlessly and, in many cases, instantly. it's objective fact that more guns per capita leads to more gun deaths per capita. im not saying either way if guns are good or bad, but every single freedom has a price and the price of allowing citizens to own weapons of murder is that, sometimes, citizens will use those weapons of murder in ways we don't approve of. that is the price we pay by allowing guns. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:21:02 AM #117: |
Let's see what is less efficient?
Getting yourself qualified to own a gun and going through a waiting period and background check? Or going online, printing out instructions to either assemble a bomb or some sort of chemical warfare with household items? Which is easier? Humans are intelligent beings. Yes, guns at the moment, are the easiest way to get your killings in. Take that away, and more people are going on the dark web to create their own shit to kill people. Either that, or they simply obtain the firearms illegally - which they're already doing. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:22:11 AM #118: |
So you don't even fully know what you want banned?
This is why no one takes these viewpoints seriously. You want something banned, but you don't even know what the hell it is you want banned Sadly I've seen this more times than I can count from users on this board --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:22:37 AM #119: |
Caution999 posted...
Let's see what is less efficient? if your argument had any merit then wouldn't we see an increase in 'household bombs' in countries that restrict firearms? --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:23:36 AM #120: |
Because guns are easier to use. Point is - they'll get them illegally or resort to creating other weapons. 9/11 proved this theory.
Why did nobody complain about bombs after the Boston Marathon? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:23:52 AM #121: |
Caution999 posted...
Either that, or they simply obtain the firearms illegally - which they're already doing. firearms are trivially easy to obtain illegally in the USA because we have so many of them. there are more guns than people in the United States. try getting a gun in a place with tight restrictions and it's much more difficult. there's a reason that places with less guns have less gun deaths. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:23:55 AM #122: |
DyingPancake posted...
So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Ok --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/15/18 10:24:46 AM #123: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
take away guns and people are left with much less efficient means of killing another. Like what, pressure-cooker bombs? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiggy101011 02/15/18 10:24:48 AM #124: |
Nobody panics when things go according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying. - The Joker
--- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:25:46 AM #125: |
Lmao this topic
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:26:32 AM #126: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...take away guns and people are left with much less efficient means of killing another. sure. i'd gladly trade gun deaths / year in exchange for pressure cooker bomb deaths / year --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:27:53 AM #127: |
as you pro-gun lot have astutely pointed out, it's impossible to ban everything possible of harming another. that's unrealistic and nobody is suggesting that slippery slope, so just stop.
--- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:29:11 AM #128: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? So I'm right and you acknowledge it --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:31:24 AM #129: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? I just told you. Pistols and hunting rifles are fine. Do you need a detailed diagram of each and every gun? You're just going for "gotcha" tactics now to justify your need to "feed your family" with weapons designed to kill lots of people very quickly. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:33:15 AM #130: |
We cant stop people or drugs coming into this country....but we can stop guns!!
Lmfao Plus what we gonna do with the thousands of guns already here --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:34:29 AM #131: |
KingCrabCake posted...
We cant stop people or drugs coming into this country....but we can stop guns!! They magically disappear because feelings have been hurt. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:34:49 AM #132: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Pistols kill more people than any other gun. Lol so youre just gonna ban the scary guns? --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:35:54 AM #133: |
KingCrabCake posted...
We cant stop people or drugs coming into this country....but we can stop guns!! aren't most firearms made here? i dont know for sure, but i had assumed that. KingCrabCake posted... Plus what we gonna do with the thousands of guns already here that's the really tricky part. i don't have an answer for that and i haven't seen a good one. but i don't think that's an adequate reason to dismiss the conversation, because we could come up with a solution. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:36:30 AM #134: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Its the mass shootings Im concerned about Lol. How many mass shootings are commited with pistols Lol. Lol. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:36:59 AM #135: |
Caution999 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...We cant stop people or drugs coming into this country....but we can stop guns!! "Feelings" have been hurt... you're sick. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/15/18 10:37:29 AM #136: |
Asking what a non-gun owner thinks about these issues is like going to a Priest to fix your marriage.
--- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 02/15/18 10:37:38 AM #137: |
Caution999 posted...
They magically disappear because feelings have been hurt. Delightful. A school gets shot up and you frame the reaction as 'feelings hurt!' --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:38:14 AM #138: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? But you literally didn't know what guns you wanted to ban Thats not a "gotcha" tactic. Thats pointing how how ridiculous your argument is --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:39:41 AM #139: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Any gun that isnt a pistol or a reasonable hunting weapon. I'm not a gun fanatic, I dont know the make and model of each gun. Maybe you gun nuts can sit down and reasonably decide which guns are overkill? --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/15/18 10:40:24 AM #140: |
Caution999 posted...
Asking what a non-gun owner thinks about these issues is like going to a Priest to fix your marriage. saying that non-gun owners are forbidden from participating in conversations about gun control is supremely idiotic. the gun laws (or lack thereof) in this country have the potential to affect everyone, as yesterday's tragedy demonstrated. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:41:19 AM #141: |
Giant_Aspirin posted...
KingCrabCake posted...We cant stop people or drugs coming into this country....but we can stop guns!! You're aware once they become "illegal" other countries from the South will start making them and/or shipping them here. Its how supply and demand work. --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:42:10 AM #142: |
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? So you care about a small % instead of the larger scale of murders. Doesnt seem logical --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:43:19 AM #143: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...KingCrabCake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Are you concerned about any of it? --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:43:55 AM #144: |
Zodd3224 posted...
DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? The overkill ones are already banned or extremely hard to get legally, and they're already taking measures like stopping people from buying bump stocks --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:45:43 AM #145: |
DyingPancake posted...
Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? Ok --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 02/15/18 10:47:51 AM #146: |
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...Zodd3224 posted...DyingPancake posted...So you don't even fully know what you want banned? The Virgina Tech Shooting was done with handguns. And, at its time, I believe it was the most deadly school shooting that had occurred. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:48:41 AM #147: |
Zodd3224 posted...
Not really. Gun deaths are going down. But im not you pretending to care either --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 02/15/18 10:56:31 AM #148: |
KingCrabCake posted...
Zodd3224 posted... Yeah, as a father of two, there is nothing for me to be concerned about here https://apnews.com/b0a56d9a7cf84ac1af9cc974fdbe1b82/After-Florida-massacre,-a-look-at-some-past-school-shootings --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DyingPancake 02/15/18 10:58:38 AM #149: |
Zodd3224 posted...
Sticking your fingers in your ears A valid tactic for many people relating to this topic --- Under a cold October sky, I wait I had ice cream with chill02! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCrabCake 02/15/18 10:59:10 AM #150: |
Zodd3224 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Zodd3224 posted... Cool. Youre more likely to be killed on the street or by someone you know with a pistol than you are at school.... Themoreyouknow.jpg --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sami1000 02/15/18 11:05:31 AM #151: |
Caution999 posted...
LinksLiege posted...Caution999 posted...Mentally ill people who want to kill are going to kill. You dont take away guns from law abiding citizens because one lunatic went off. We have a right to protect our property and our families. Bombs would be far more efficient way to kill people and kill more of them as well. How many people do it with bombs instead of guns? Tell me how many school bombings happens in countries where there are strict gun laws? --- Can't think any good sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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