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NINExATExSEVEN
02/12/18 5:04:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsXu8U2h1Q


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Vyrulisse
02/12/18 5:07:34 PM
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I mean... Japan is pretty racist and conservative. That's not exactly a secret.
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UnholyMudcrab
02/12/18 5:07:35 PM
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cjsdowg
02/12/18 5:08:10 PM
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Isn't Japan having an issue with their population growth ?
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_BlueMonk
02/12/18 5:09:23 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I mean... Japan is pretty racist and conservative. That's not exactly a secret.

post proof of this claim please.

ive known many japanese people in my life, from japan. never have i felt so welcomed by a people.
and im black.
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Vyrulisse
02/12/18 5:10:28 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
I mean... Japan is pretty racist and conservative. That's not exactly a secret.

post proof of this claim please.

ive known many japanese people in my life, from japan. never have i felt so welcomed by a people.
and im black.

Racism isn't always hateful.
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Paper_Okami
02/12/18 5:10:28 PM
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Sweden I much safer than america
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K181
02/12/18 5:12:43 PM
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Doesn't Japan have a birthrate that makes Pandas seem like they fuck like rabbits in comparison? They're a country that's actually going to need mass migration to fund their social policies in the near future.
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_BlueMonk
02/12/18 5:13:05 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Racism isn't always hateful.

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Sativa_Rose
02/12/18 5:13:20 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


But not Japan, which is the country that is being compared to Sweden here.
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Bat178
02/12/18 5:15:15 PM
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Is slowly dying out from lack of immigration and a declining birthrate any better?
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UnholyMudcrab
02/12/18 5:16:09 PM
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K181 posted...
Doesn't Japan have a birthrate that makes Pandas seem like they fuck like rabbits in comparison? They're a country that's actually going to need mass migration to fund their social policies in the near future.

A full third of the Japanese population is above the age of 60, and the birthrate has been below the replacement rate since the '70s
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The Admiral
02/12/18 5:17:00 PM
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Bat178 posted...
Is slowly dying out from lack of immigration and a declining birthrate any better?


Better than the issues affecting Germany and Sweden? Yes.
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A_Good_Boy
02/12/18 5:17:32 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Bat178 posted...
Is slowly dying out from lack of immigration and a declining birthrate any better?


Better than the issues affecting Germany and Sweden? Yes.

Which issues?
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ROBANN_88
02/12/18 5:20:32 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


how many police stations have been bombed in america lately?
there's at least 2 in Sweden, 4 if counting police cars and thrown hand grenades.
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/12/18 5:21:37 PM
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K181 posted...
Doesn't Japan have a birthrate that makes Pandas seem like they fuck like rabbits in comparison? They're a country that's actually going to need mass migration to fund their social policies in the near future.


Watch the video and you'll see him explain why a population crisis is a half myth and other things can be done before resorting to mass immigration.

UnholyMudcrab posted...
All that mass immigration that Japan doesn't get


Your point?
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 5:21:53 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Isn't Japan having an issue with their population growth ?


I'll never understand "population growth" as justification for importing children. You could just as easily incentivize your own citizens to reproduce through tax breaks, social programs, etc. Then you'd have a generation of kids born and raised with your culture, your language, and your priorities.
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metralo
02/12/18 5:22:35 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


how many police stations have been bombed in america lately?
there's at least 2 in Sweden, 4 if counting police cars and thrown hand grenades.


how many shootings occur on a daily basis in america?
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The Admiral
02/12/18 5:23:05 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


Sweden's rape rate is twice as high as the U.S.
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0TiamaT0
02/12/18 5:25:51 PM
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I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.

Its good that Japan isnt full of apologists, eager to destroy their culture and country for fear of being called racist.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/12/18 5:27:37 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


Sweden's rape rate is twice as high as the U.S.


Same with gun violence rates iirc
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metralo
02/12/18 5:29:28 PM
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0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.


yeah right?

i totally agree, i can tell from experience living in my basement that Europe is in serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s
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iPhone_7
02/12/18 5:30:17 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Isn't Japan having an issue with their population growth ?

Isnt that a good thing? Everywhere else people keep pumping out new people, theres already an overpopulation of the human race.
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AngelicTouch99
02/12/18 5:31:12 PM
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metralo posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


how many police stations have been bombed in america lately?
there's at least 2 in Sweden, 4 if counting police cars and thrown hand grenades.


how many shootings occur on a daily basis in america?

How big is the US compared to Sweden?
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metralo
02/12/18 5:31:29 PM
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chill02
02/12/18 5:31:54 PM
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UnfairRepresent
02/12/18 5:32:33 PM
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Not to defend Sweden's problems but they also report and record rape statistics differently.

All incidents reported to police are counted in rape statistics prior to the investigation which is not true in the US and the rest or Europe.

And multiple rapes of the same victim are counted individually, which is not true in the US and Europe.

So for example if one person was accused of raping a girl 12 times, that would be counted statistically as 12 rape cases in Sweden but only one in the US or France. And it would still be counted even if the police investigated and found out it never occured.

This is bit of a moot point considering offenses are on the rise in Sweden which is concerning, but always be careful that you're not just falling for propaganda.
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0TiamaT0
02/12/18 5:32:56 PM
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metralo posted...
0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.


yeah right?

i totally agree, i can tell from experience living in my basement that Europe is in serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s


What a generic response. Yawn.
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Renault
02/12/18 5:34:05 PM
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0TiamaT0 posted...
What a generic response. Yawn.

0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.

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ROBANN_88
02/12/18 5:34:33 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


Sweden's rape rate is twice as high as the U.S.


Same with gun violence rates iirc


technically, that is incorrect. the US still has higher gun violence rates, but on the other hand, Sweden still has 4 to 5 times as much gun violence rates as our neighbouring countries
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6770170

with the majority of those being concentrated on Malm, Gothenburg and Stockholm

i'll be glad to shit on Swedens immigration pokicy and its effects any day, but atleast use the right stats
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UnfairRepresent
02/12/18 5:34:49 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Isn't Japan having an issue with their population growth ?

Isnt that a good thing? Everywhere else people keep pumping out new people, theres already an overpopulation of the human race.

Overpopulation isn't that big deal.

Meanwhile Japan and Italy are lacking a young workforce and are growing aging populations.

It's unsustainable. You can't have a nation and economy functioning with 33% of the population over 60 and half the young population not having kids.

Not sure I see the key in logic here that says "immigration is the answer" the answer should just be fucking more.
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Link HT
02/12/18 5:35:06 PM
#33:


The Admiral posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Sweden I much safer than america


Sweden's rape rate is twice as high as the U.S.

Because every single accusation (convicted or not) counts towards that statistic, whereas in the US you have a hard time even making accusations at all, as we all saw. Not only that, they also count every single possible occurrence so if a woman says her husband raped her every day for a month, that's 30 different counts of rape.

You're legitimately insane if you think it's ACTUALLY higher and not just a consequence of how they define and count rape.
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metralo
02/12/18 5:35:14 PM
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0TiamaT0 posted...
metralo posted...
0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.


yeah right?

i totally agree, i can tell from experience living in my basement that Europe is in serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s


What a generic response. Yawn.


???

i read breitbart and infowars all of the time, i am an expert on sweden thank you very much
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/12/18 5:36:53 PM
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0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.

Its good that Japan isnt full of apologists, eager to destroy their culture and country for fear of being called racist.


Poland and other eastern European countries in the EU are literally saying they rather leave the EU than put their citizens at risk from Islamic immigration.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Not to defend Sweden's problems but they also report and record rape statistics differently.

All incidents reported to police are counted in rape statistics prior to the investigation which is not true in the US and the rest or Europe.

And multiple rapes of the same victim are counted individually, which is not true in the US and Europe.

So for example if one person was accused of raping a girl 12 times, that would be counted statistically as 12 rape cases in Sweden but only one in the US or France. And it would still be counted even if the police investigated and found out it never occured.

This is bit of a moot point considering offenses are on the rise in Sweden which is concerning, but always be careful that you're not just falling for propaganda.


Regardless if it's counted as 1 or a 100 incidents, immigrants are overrepresented by a huge amount.
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0TiamaT0
02/12/18 5:37:28 PM
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metralo posted...
0TiamaT0 posted...
metralo posted...
0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.


yeah right?

i totally agree, i can tell from experience living in my basement that Europe is in serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s


What a generic response. Yawn.


???

i read breitbart and infowars all of the time, i am an expert on sweden thank you very much

If thats what you consider news, then you have no right to talk about anyone else.
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UnfairRepresent
02/12/18 5:39:21 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...


Regardless if it's counted as 1 or a 100 incidents, immigrants are overrepresented by a huge amount.

Indeed, there seems to be a consistent pattern. Moreso with refugees than legal economic immigrants.

Which is why it's such a bad idea to fall to propaganda or promote it.

Boy who cried wolf effect, if you exaggerate or lie about the reality, no one will believe you even if you are right one time.
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/12/18 5:39:30 PM
#38:


0TiamaT0 posted...
metralo posted...
0TiamaT0 posted...
I cant blame the Japanese at all. What is happening in Sweden and other European countries is insanity.


yeah right?

i totally agree, i can tell from experience living in my basement that Europe is in serious trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /s


What a generic response. Yawn.


It's essentially the "you don't live in X country so all the bad things you hear are false, but listen to all these TRUE good things!"
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scar the 1
02/12/18 5:41:09 PM
#39:


s0nicfan posted...
I'll never understand "population growth" as justification for importing children. You could just as easily incentivize your own citizens to reproduce through tax breaks, social programs, etc. Then you'd have a generation of kids born and raised with your culture, your language, and your priorities.

"Just as easily". Yeah sure buddy lmao
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Broseph_Stalin
02/12/18 5:42:33 PM
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What does become like Sweden mean? Having a GDP growth rate three times as high as Japan? Higher wages than Japan? A debt that isn't over 100% of their GDP?

Weird how no one can ever explain the problems with Sweden.
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ROBANN_88
02/12/18 5:42:57 PM
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why is it that when Balancelost, FF_redux or scar says it's all sunshine and rainbows, people go "well, he's actually from Sweden so he must be right"

yet when i, another guy from Sweden disagree with them, it's more often ignored?
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Axiom
02/12/18 5:43:57 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Weird how no one can ever explain the problems with Sweden.

It's the Rape Capital of the world
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The Admiral
02/12/18 5:44:57 PM
#43:


ROBANN_88 posted...
why is it that when Balancelost, FF_redux or scar says it's all sunshine and rainbows, people go "well, he's actually from Sweden so he must be right"

yet when i, another guy from Sweden disagree with them, it's more often ignored?


Doesn't fit their narrative.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/12/18 5:45:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Doesn't fit their narrative.


Kind of like you leaving out the reasons for Sweden's rape statistics.
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/12/18 5:46:51 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Doesn't fit their narrative.


Kind of like you leaving out the reasons for Sweden's rape statistics.


Enlighten us
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Intro2Logic
02/12/18 5:47:33 PM
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If the US applied Sweden's handling of rape claims, Admiral would decry it as feminist SJW bullshit.
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AverageCEgal
02/12/18 5:47:50 PM
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sweden counts sexual assault as rape iirc
and it counts each rape as a different assault and charge
ie a man groping a woman's boobs five times is considered as raping her five times
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UnholyMudcrab
02/12/18 5:47:50 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
The Admiral posted...
Doesn't fit their narrative.


Kind of like you leaving out the reasons for Sweden's rape statistics.


Enlighten us

It was already explained, and you clumsily attempted to brush it off.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/12/18 5:49:13 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Enlighten us

Link HT posted...
Because every single accusation (convicted or not) counts towards that statistic, whereas in the US you have a hard time even making accusations at all, as we all saw. Not only that, they also count every single possible occurrence so if a woman says her husband raped her every day for a month, that's 30 different counts of rape.

You're legitimately insane if you think it's ACTUALLY higher and not just a consequence of how they define and count rape.
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 5:51:38 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
I'll never understand "population growth" as justification for importing children. You could just as easily incentivize your own citizens to reproduce through tax breaks, social programs, etc. Then you'd have a generation of kids born and raised with your culture, your language, and your priorities.

"Just as easily". Yeah sure buddy lmao


You'll have to explain why it isn't worth trying before the alternative.
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