Poll of the Day > Confirm or Deny, Money= Happiness

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.....say it before.
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Deny. Best things in life are free. Happiness is felt within, and no amount of external things can change that, and rich people are miserable too.

I make more money than I did when I was in high school, dont feel anymore happy than I normally do.
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Money and happiness is like a Heron's Fountain - once you have enough for a stable flow, you're as happy as it's gunna make you
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Money definitely helps but its not everything
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Muscles posted...

Money definitely helps but its not everything

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Have money, am happy

The only people that don't find happiness with financial stability are people with serious ego issues

"Money doesn't bring happiness" is what poor people tell themselves to feel better.
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D. Money itself does not guarantee happiness, but it does make thing easier if used wisely.
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Depends on what makes one happy i suppose but generally C id say.
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The more money you have, the less you have to worry about things that cost money. Less worry and more stuff helps you avoid stress and boredom, which does increase your happiness to a point. But money itself is not love, friendship, fulfillment, experience, etc. It will never make a miserable person happy by itself.
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Money equals happiness to a certain point. Having enough money for food and shelter is happiness, but it only works to a point. The more money you have, the less having more money can buy happiness.
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it can't guarantee it... but it can sure as hell help.

have a pet that needs a costly operation or has to be put to sleep? not a problem if you have lots of money.
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Big fat deny

I had a 14k drop in income and I feel a million times better because more money=more responsibility=more stress

Just make enough to support yourself and you should be all set.
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D. The sense of happiness that money can bring to a person is limited by what they can buy with that money. If what they desire can't be bought, then the money is worthless to them.
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If people stoped demanding I make/give money to them or else I go to jail I really wouldnt care for the economic tool at all and personally find it hasnt evolved enough and thats why it causes as many problems as it fixes.
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bulbinking posted...

If people stoped demanding I make/give money to them or else I go to jail I really wouldnt care for the economic tool at all and personally find it hasnt evolved enough and thats why it causes as many problems as it fixes.

You obviously make use of societies infrastructure, not allowed to just be a drain

thebestestbest posted...

bulbinking posted...

If people stoped demanding I make/give money to them or else I go to jail I really wouldnt care for the economic tool at all and personally find it hasnt evolved enough and thats why it causes as many problems as it fixes.

You obviously make use of societies infrastructure, not allowed to just be a drain

Nope.

I live as much off the grid as I possibly can, and most cash people want from me are to help pay off the debts of others in a social spending system I was born into with no way of escaping.

Outside of a few instances its impossible to live in a first world cou try without paying a bill to somebody.

Well, at least if you were BORN in those countries.

Money systems are slavery and population control. Debts hold society back and representing debt is the only thing we seem to use money for anymore.
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The things that make me happy cost money, so...

If I didn't have money would I have to forage for food or some shit? No thanks.
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eh... i've got money, and i am happy, but when i look to what actually brings me joy money is very rarely at the root of it.
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It does because it alleviates stress unless you obsess over making more, or whatever, but even then it is better to be worried and have money than be worried and not.
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More money means more comfort. Fast internet, more entertainment, paid sex, better car, bigger house. I think being homeless would give the opposite of happiness, so in a large way "yes." If I had to move from what I have to lesser means I would be less happy.

Money definitely helps out. I need money to pay bills, buy food food, and buy things that could give me entertainment. Would be pretty hard and stressful to live without money. But having money gets rid of that stress...
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It does.

Im constantly worrying that something will happen that will cost a fortune in medical bills.

School is expensive as hell.

Buying and making a home is expensive as hell.

Cars and car maintenance and gas are expensive as hell.

If I had money to cover ALL of that, I wouldnt worry, and if I wasnt worrying, Id be very happy.

Honestly I cant believe there are people out there who think money CANT bring happiness.
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Also, you do kinda need money for like everything...
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Having money helps with the basic needs, food and shelter, and it can fight off general boredom, but it won't fulfill your more emotional needs like love, happiness, or self-worth.
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Does anyone get ma Heron's Fountain reference evens :L
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Hmm, 36 people that think accumulating wealth is happiness. Such a pity.
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Personally I think that money can contribute to happiness, but to imply it is a r=1.0 correlation is a gross oversimplification of things.

rexcrk posted...

It does.

Im constantly worrying that something will happen that will cost a fortune in medical bills.

School is expensive as hell.

Buying and making a home is expensive as hell.

Cars and car maintenance and gas are expensive as hell.

If I had money to cover ALL of that, I wouldnt worry, and if I wasnt worrying, Id be very happy.

Honestly I cant believe there are people out there who think money CANT bring happiness.

So if you found out you had terminal cancer, your mother got raped, your best friend killed your father, and the love of your life just committed suicide your saying as long as you had money you'd be happy? If you answer no then you're contradicting yourself. If money=happiness, and if I wasnt worrying doesn't matter because all other factors other than whether you have money are irrelevant to happiness. If anything you seem to be arguing more that lack of money causes unhappiness, which isn't really the same thing.

A lot of people seem to be mistaking the question as whether money correlates with happiness, but as it is currently worded that is not what the question is asking.

Money may not buy happiness, but misery is more bearable with a healthy bank account.

sveksii posted...

Personally I think that money can contribute to happiness, but to imply it is a r=1.0 correlation is a gross oversimplification of things.

rexcrk posted...

It does.

Im constantly worrying that something will happen that will cost a fortune in medical bills.

School is expensive as hell.

Buying and making a home is expensive as hell.

Cars and car maintenance and gas are expensive as hell.

If I had money to cover ALL of that, I wouldnt worry, and if I wasnt worrying, Id be very happy.

Honestly I cant believe there are people out there who think money CANT bring happiness.

So if you found out you had terminal cancer, your mother got raped, your best friend killed your father, and the love of your life just committed suicide your saying as long as you had money you'd be happy? If you answer no then you're contradicting yourself. If money=happiness, and if I wasnt worrying doesn't matter because all other factors other than whether you have money are irrelevant to happiness. If anything you seem to be arguing more that lack of money causes unhappiness, which isn't really the same thing.

A lot of people seem to be mistaking the question as whether money correlates with happiness, but as it is currently worded that is not what the question is asking.

Oh gimme a break. You know exactly what I mean.
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sveksii posted...

Personally I think that money can contribute to happiness, but to imply it is a r=1.0 correlation is a gross oversimplification of things.

rexcrk posted...

It does.

Im constantly worrying that something will happen that will cost a fortune in medical bills.

School is expensive as hell.

Buying and making a home is expensive as hell.

Cars and car maintenance and gas are expensive as hell.

If I had money to cover ALL of that, I wouldnt worry, and if I wasnt worrying, Id be very happy.

Honestly I cant believe there are people out there who think money CANT bring happiness.

So if you found out you had terminal cancer, your mother got raped, your best friend killed your father, and the love of your life just committed suicide your saying as long as you had money you'd be happy? If you answer no then you're contradicting yourself. If money=happiness, and if I wasnt worrying doesn't matter because all other factors other than whether you have money are irrelevant to happiness. If anything you seem to be arguing more that lack of money causes unhappiness, which isn't really the same thing.

A lot of people seem to be mistaking the question as whether money correlates with happiness, but as it is currently worded that is not what the question is asking.

Of course you'd be sad. Sad things happen. If you didn't have money, you'd also be sad. If I had a lot of money and lost it, I'd be sad, too. But life moves on. You'd have to mourn, but life would move on. And you'd find you're happiness again. But it would definitely be easier with money. One less stressor in your life. I don't think all you need is money to be happy. But it's a big factor. And can definitely impact it a lot...
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While you might not be able to equate money with happiness, it certainly makes life a lot happier. The vast majority of worries and concerns in life often pertain in some way to not having enough money.

mastermix3000 posted...

Big fat deny

I had a 14k drop in income and I feel a million times better because more money=more responsibility=more stress

Just make enough to support yourself and you should be all set.

But that's not simply having money, it's also dealing with working for it. If you just had tons of money, that wouldn't be a concern. As it is, you're depending on your job for your livelihood. VeeVees posted...

"Money doesn't bring happiness" is what poor people tell themselves to feel better.

tbh, whatever helps them sleep at night on their cheap, uncomfortable bed in their little hovel of a home in a unscenic area.

sveksii posted...

Personally I think that money can contribute to happiness, but to imply it is a r=1.0 correlation is a gross oversimplification of things.

rexcrk posted...

It does.

Im constantly worrying that something will happen that will cost a fortune in medical bills.

School is expensive as hell.

Buying and making a home is expensive as hell.

Cars and car maintenance and gas are expensive as hell.

If I had money to cover ALL of that, I wouldnt worry, and if I wasnt worrying, Id be very happy.

Honestly I cant believe there are people out there who think money CANT bring happiness.

So if you found out you had terminal cancer, your mother got raped, your best friend killed your father, and the love of your life just committed suicide your saying as long as you had money you'd be happy? If you answer no then you're contradicting yourself. If money=happiness, and if I wasnt worrying doesn't matter because all other factors other than whether you have money are irrelevant to happiness. If anything you seem to be arguing more that lack of money causes unhappiness, which isn't really the same thing.

A lot of people seem to be mistaking the question as whether money correlates with happiness, but as it is currently worded that is not what the question is asking.

Think how much unhappier you'd be if you were poor on top of that. For starters, that money could help buy you justice.
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Zeus posted...

While you might not be able to equate money with happiness, it certainly makes life a lot happier.

D, for this reason: simply the wording of TC's topic.
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I think Happiness is more than just one things. It's a lot. But money can help lots of people become happier. How much? Well, it's different for everybody. It's not just money=happiness. But money can help you reach/get/achieve the things/goals/whatever that makes you happy.
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Money might not be a guarantee for happiness, but I'm sure it helps a ton.
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Rather be miserable and rich than be miserable and poor.
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Not having enough money to cover your expenses can cause a lot of negativity, but once you're over that threshold having more of it has little impact.
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Meant to edit this in earlier to VeeVees response but got distracted and the edit window closed >_<

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkKg-P6JHRE
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samuricex posted...

Money might not be a guarantee for happiness, but I'm sure it helps a ton.

This.

People are comparing apples or oranges.

You are like you are now but have no money.

You are like you are now but have only enough money to cover the bare necessities.

You are like you are now but have a billion dollars in the bank.

Which would you end up happier in?

Money buys happiness but has diminishing returns.
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Johnny Eagle posted...

Muscles posted...

Money definitely helps but its not everything

Yep.

Money might not be able to buy you happiness, but it can buy you a lot of stuff that will facilitate that happiness. And, as a corollary, money may not equal happiness, but a lack of it can absolutely make you fucking miserable.

I'm a pretty happy guy and when I think about all the stuff in my life that makes me happy, almost all of it would not be possible if I didn't earn a decent wage.
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It helps a lot to have money in pursuit of happiness.
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There are massive diminishing returns on how much your quality of life improves in relation to how much money you make (hint: it pretty much stops well before you even hit six figures).

Having enough money that you don't need to worry about it is fine, but nobody really needs more than that.
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Lil69Leo posted...

You are like you are now but have only enough money to cover the bare necessities.

You are like you are now but have a billion dollars in the bank.

This is a false dichotomy. You can have enough money to cover your basic expenses and have enough left over for leisure, etc. that you're comfortable.
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Absolutely.

You need money to live. If you have ample amount of money, you'll have a happier (and easier) life.

It all depends on what you do with it really. But bottom line is... you need money to be happy.
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Nightengale posted...

There are massive diminishing returns on how much your quality of life improves in relation to how much money you make (hint: it pretty much stops well before you even hit six figures).

Having enough money that you don't need to worry about it is fine, but nobody really needs more than that.

You're falsely conflating money you make with money you have. The distinction is pretty important. If you're independently wealthy, you're not dependent on an employer for your livelihood and can pursue what interests you. Making a lot of money may be great, but having a lot of money is far better.

As for the point of diminishing returns, that partly depends on where you live and largely depends on what you want.

Nightengale posted...

Lil69Leo posted...

You are like you are now but have only enough money to cover the bare necessities.

You are like you are now but have a billion dollars in the bank.

This is a false dichotomy. You can have enough money to cover your basic expenses and have enough left over for leisure, etc. that you're comfortable.

However, the point being made is that more money can buy more comfort. Instead of needing to drive to a 3-star resort for a vacation, you could fly to a 5-star resort. And, more importantly, having access to more money provides greater financial security and freedom.
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Nightengale posted...

Lil69Leo posted...

You are like you are now but have only enough money to cover the bare necessities.

You are like you are now but have a billion dollars in the bank.

This is a false dichotomy. You can have enough money to cover your basic expenses and have enough left over for leisure, etc. that you're comfortable.

Which would fall right into my argument. Just a step I skipped over. All comes down to the exact same thing. Money=Happiness.

Not only C, the statistics back it up.
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