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CherryCokes
03/03/18 10:33:47 PM
#410:


Celtics leading scorer right now is Greg Monroe with 18

Second leading scorer Marcus Morris with 16

Rockets leading scorer Eric Gordon with 25

none of these people started

Edit: Now Morris has 21. Celtics 3rd leading scorer is Rozier with 14, also off the bench. Morris had 10 2:30 ago

This is some weird, excellent basketball
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ShatteredElysium
03/03/18 10:39:06 PM
#411:


Stop winning Magic D:
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transience
03/03/18 10:46:13 PM
#412:


start winning Memphis

they're 11-40 since starting 7-4
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transience
03/03/18 10:50:41 PM
#413:


Boston's choking this one away like Harden did that one game vs. Boston
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CherryCokes
03/03/18 10:54:02 PM
#414:


not sure

a) how that kyrie layup rimmed out
b) how no one got a TO called when horford was on the ground
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Dr_Football
03/03/18 11:02:22 PM
#415:


once again no one really knows how to miss a free throw on purpose
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transience
03/03/18 11:04:05 PM
#416:


Houston is so good at making basketball uninteresting

even close games
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neonreaper
03/03/18 11:06:03 PM
#417:


Kyrie needed to be better tonight
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CherryCokes
03/03/18 11:08:12 PM
#418:


I honestly thought that last shot was going in
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TheRock1525
03/03/18 11:30:39 PM
#419:


Playoff hopes officially dead.
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SpikeDragon
03/04/18 12:11:22 AM
#420:


CherryCokes posted...
Celtics leading scorer right now is Greg Monroe with 18

Second leading scorer Marcus Morris with 16

Rockets leading scorer Eric Gordon with 25

none of these people started

Edit: Now Morris has 21. Celtics 3rd leading scorer is Rozier with 14, also off the bench. Morris had 10 2:30 ago

This is some weird, excellent basketball


WE GOT A FUCKING SQUAD NOW
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Blackscar
03/04/18 12:11:48 AM
#421:


Spurs are 7th in the West now. Will they even make the playoffs?
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SpikeDragon
03/04/18 12:13:27 AM
#422:


Well aside from the fact that we lost.
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transience
03/04/18 12:13:52 AM
#423:


it would be really wild if the Spurs and Thunder miss the playoffs this year

to be honest, I don't think it really matters what place these teams come in, so long as they avoid 7 or 8 because that's an instant loss. this year really feels like a pointless first round all around, an interesting round 2 in the east (but not the west), and a fascinating round 3. then the finals comes and the west blows them out pretty hard, unless Toronto is truly legit.
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LeonhartFour
03/04/18 12:19:44 AM
#424:


Blackscar posted...
Spurs are 7th in the West now. Will they even make the playoffs?


they might as well so we don't have to hear this "they're just as good without Kawhi" stuff anymore
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transience
03/04/18 12:24:41 AM
#425:


well, LMA didn't play tonight either. Kawhi hate still applies!
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transience
03/04/18 12:25:53 AM
#426:


the Spurs starting 5 tonight is Kyle Anderson, 2018 Pau Gasol, Davis Bertans, Patty Mills and Dejounte Murray
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LeonhartFour
03/04/18 12:26:12 AM
#427:


eh it doesn't really matter either way

Pachulia single-handedly killed my interest in the NBA this year

or maybe that should be single-footedly
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NBIceman
03/04/18 12:30:48 AM
#428:


It's amazing that the best player on the Spurs right now is probably 40-year-old Manu Ginobili.

Maybe you could make the argument for Rudy Gay or Murray.
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LeonhartFour
03/04/18 12:31:38 AM
#429:


I would rather it be Ginobili or Murray

Rudy Gay being the best Spur would be the saddest thing to happen to the franchise this millennium
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transience
03/04/18 8:09:43 PM
#430:


this is fucking unreal

https://streamable.com/4bvun
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ninkendo
03/04/18 8:13:25 PM
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ExThaNemesis
03/04/18 11:33:22 PM
#432:


dang, the Process got halted tonight
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transience
03/04/18 11:37:12 PM
#433:


the kings have won two games in a row at the buzzer

driving me nuts
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CherryCokes
03/05/18 4:10:07 AM
#434:


Portland has dislodged Minnesota for a home seed and Indiana is threatening to do the same to Cleveland

transience posted...
the kings have won two games in a row at the buzzer

driving me nuts


they literally just lost to Utah?
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transcience
03/05/18 6:14:14 AM
#435:


yeah, I'm talking their last two wins, I think 2 in 3 games
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CherryCokes
03/05/18 6:36:53 PM
#436:


oh

that's kind of a weird way to talk about it, but I can see that meaning now
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TheRock1525
03/05/18 6:39:41 PM
#437:


Tanking must be extremely painful.

I know a lot of Pistons fans are talking about blowing it up but I can't imagine it being enjoyable to literally be distressed by winning.
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transience
03/05/18 8:46:42 PM
#438:


once you get into it, it becomes a game unto itself. what's to cheer for when you're 34-48? at least there's something you can gamify.
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CherryCokes
03/05/18 9:26:08 PM
#439:


Speaking of tankers

The Celtics are up 73-40 on the Bulls halfway through the third without Kyrie
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TheRock1525
03/05/18 10:36:55 PM
#440:


transience posted...
once you get into it, it becomes a game unto itself. what's to cheer for when you're 34-48? at least there's something you can gamify.


Yeah but, like, you've been doing it for a decade+.
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transience
03/05/18 10:37:45 PM
#441:


nah. Kings haven't had a top 3 pick since 1991!
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TheRock1525
03/05/18 10:39:08 PM
#442:


But I mean you've been tanking most of the time. Just... poorly, it seems. And getting shitty lottery luck.
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transience
03/05/18 11:26:43 PM
#443:


the Kings don't tank. they're just awful!
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TheRock1525
03/05/18 11:29:00 PM
#444:


I don't think there's a difference.
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transience
03/05/18 11:30:52 PM
#445:


oh there most definitely is

http://stats.nba.com/teams/clutch-traditional/?sort=W_PCT&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals

here's games within 5 points. look at the tanking teams on the bottom. then look at the kings!
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TheRock1525
03/05/18 11:54:39 PM
#446:


transience posted...
oh there most definitely is

http://stats.nba.com/teams/clutch-traditional/?sort=W_PCT&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals

here's games within 5 points. look at the tanking teams on the bottom. then look at the kings!


Nets have been trying and being screwed by the refs!

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-nba-team-is-wronged-by-the-refs-the-most/
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LeonhartFour
03/06/18 12:01:00 AM
#447:


The Nets are also just bad anyway

but you admit they're trying so they're not tanking even though they're bad
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CherryCokes
03/06/18 2:38:29 AM
#448:


Nets shouldn't be trying to tank at this point

Them losing doesn't help them any
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ShatteredElysium
03/06/18 3:12:16 AM
#449:


Honesty they need to prevent tanking. They should never incentivize losing more. It's worse than the NFL draft setup because of sheer number of games.

I'd rather have flat rates for everyone or the lotto odds flipped (i.e. worst team has worst odds) than the current system. Or penalize teams for repeatedly being in the lotto or getting a high pick in previous years. Like I dunno, if you're in the Top 3 then you drop X amount of spots in the lotto for a number of years. Or have flat rates and you can't get a top 3 pick for like 3-5 years after previously getting one

I don't watch other bad teams enough to know how much better they would be doing but the Magic would probably be a 33-35 win team at season end if they weren't tanking. And I firmly believe if not for horrendous injuries we would be a fringe playoff team.

I shouldn't ever be cheering for my team to lose or getting pissed because they win but that's exactly what happens with the current system. The 2 recent wins that took us from 1st to 7th is a prime example of that. It's like the difference between Doncic and I dunno, Bamba or Trae Young?
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transience
03/06/18 2:58:47 PM
#450:


https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-everyone-is-going-through-something/

this article is amazing. respect to Kevin Love.
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TheRock1525
03/06/18 5:39:28 PM
#451:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Honesty they need to prevent tanking. They should never incentivize losing more. It's worse than the NFL draft setup because of sheer number of games.

I'd rather have flat rates for everyone or the lotto odds flipped (i.e. worst team has worst odds) than the current system. Or penalize teams for repeatedly being in the lotto or getting a high pick in previous years. Like I dunno, if you're in the Top 3 then you drop X amount of spots in the lotto for a number of years. Or have flat rates and you can't get a top 3 pick for like 3-5 years after previously getting one

I don't watch other bad teams enough to know how much better they would be doing but the Magic would probably be a 33-35 win team at season end if they weren't tanking. And I firmly believe if not for horrendous injuries we would be a fringe playoff team.

I shouldn't ever be cheering for my team to lose or getting pissed because they win but that's exactly what happens with the current system. The 2 recent wins that took us from 1st to 7th is a prime example of that. It's like the difference between Doncic and I dunno, Bamba or Trae Young?


The answer is simple:

Tie record into revenue sharing. See how much teams want to tank knowing they can't offset losses from putting out a shitty product by getting paid by the league. Put a performance tax on teams that routinely fall in the bottom 5.
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CherryCokes
03/06/18 11:53:24 PM
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ShatteredElysium
03/07/18 9:29:36 AM
#453:


So the league had words with the Bulls over their tanking line-ups

Meanwhile Memphis are fielding 4 undrafted players and not even putting a name on one of their players jerseys without the league saying shit.
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SeabassDebeste
03/07/18 9:37:48 AM
#454:


poor marc gasol, man
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neonreaper
03/07/18 9:43:30 AM
#455:


ShatteredElysium posted...
So the league had words with the Bulls over their tanking line-ups

Meanwhile Memphis are fielding 4 undrafted players and not even putting a name on one of their players jerseys without the league saying shit.


it's gonna be fun when their pick conveys to the Celtics in a couple of years! go _____!
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transcience
03/07/18 9:55:40 AM
#456:


yeah Memphis has been the runaway tankathon winner once Conley got hurt. they went all in and no one batted an eye. I'll be surprised if they win another game.
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TheRock1525
03/07/18 4:17:05 PM
#457:


transcience posted...
yeah Memphis has been the runaway tankathon winner once Conley got hurt. they went all in and no one batted an eye. I'll be surprised if they win another game.


If there was any justice, they'd somehow end up with the 5th pick because fuck the lottery.
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ShatteredElysium
03/07/18 4:44:32 PM
#458:


Yeah I hope they get screwed over by the lotto. Losing as many straight as they have is flat out unacceptable. Although I think 4th is the lowest they can drop
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LiquidOshawott
03/07/18 4:45:21 PM
#459:


Remember when the Grizzlies and the Magic looked good early in the season?

Good times
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