Board 8 > Best New Character 2017 - SF - 9S (Nier: Automata) v. Laura Kinney (Logan)

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-1 vote per match per user
-Each match will last approx. 24 hours (or until whenever I can update)
-Ties will be broken by rematches the next day

David/Monika (10-8)

9S (Nier Automata)





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Laura Kinney/X-23 (Logan)





9S/Laura
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X-23
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Laura
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Laura
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9S
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Laura

9S
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Laura
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Laura
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9S
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9S
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Laura
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Nines
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9S
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9S
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9S

Laura
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Laura
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Laura
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Up
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x-23
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We're gonna get another Marvel character with 10+ years of exposure as best 'New' character I see
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KamikazePotato posted...

We're gonna get another Marvel character with 10+ years of exposure as best 'New' character I see

To be fair, new to the medium. I am more weirded out by cases like Hitler.

I wouldn't object to adaptations going in future contests though.
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X23
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9S
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Lightning Strikes posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

We're gonna get another Marvel character with 10+ years of exposure as best 'New' character I see

To be fair, new to the medium. I am more weirded out by cases like Hitler.

I wouldn't object to adaptations going in future contests though.

I was pretty against Deadpool in the last contest but the rules are what they are, I guess. Still kind of lame to see.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Lightning Strikes posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

We're gonna get another Marvel character with 10+ years of exposure as best 'New' character I see

To be fair, new to the medium. I am more weirded out by cases like Hitler.

I wouldn't object to adaptations going in future contests though.

I was pretty against Deadpool in the last contest but the rules are what they are, I guess. Still kind of lame to see.

See like Deadpool I was a little hesitant about, but I'm actually completely for Laura

It's a pretty distinct portrayal, especially since she hasn't really appeared in other forms of media significantly (as opposed to Deadpool, who had had his own game).

I was really against Spider-Man that same year (who certainly didn't feel like a 2016 character by any stretch) but it wasn't really fair of me to twist the rules on a case-by-case basis.

The first year this ran (2014 I think?) characters from comics weren't allowed, and a lot of people were upset about it because characters from The Flash and Gotham couldn't get in. Most notably, the exclusion of Gotham's Oswald Cobblepot was the biggest issue for people because he had been one of the most popular new characters of the year (and pretty significantly different from any other portrayal of the Penguin) and I even agreed I felt like he should be included
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Eh, there are enough people voting for X-23 specifically that I don't think it's really fair. It's a distinct portrayal but you can't take away the appreciation for the character that people already have. I know that it's just how the rules are but I'm personally not for it.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Eh, there are enough people voting for X-23 specifically that I don't think it's really fair. It's a distinct portrayal but you can't take away the appreciation for the character that people already have. I know that it's just how the rules are but I'm personally not for it.

To be fair though, the character in the movie was called X-23 too. I mean, she was mostly referred to as Laura but I don't necessarily see that as voting for the pre-existing character

if it is Please let it be clear that when you vote you are voting for the specific new portrayal of the character listed

though for what it's worth, I never read the X-23 comics (beyond brief appearances) and Laura was still probably my favorite new character of the year
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I don't think anyone voting solely for the movie would specify X-23 - she's Laura in it even if X-23 is still her codename. I actually don't see much difference between nominating X-23 and Homecoming Spider-man honestly, I've never seen an interpretation of Spider-man having that specific relationship with the Avengers so it was new to me.

I'm probably just salty because I really like 9S, but I would've preferred him to lose to basically anyone else in the bracket (except Vulture for the same reasons). As it stands, there's a possibility that the 2016 winner is Deadpool and the 2017 winner is X-23, which is for lack of a better word, really lame.
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KamikazePotato posted...

I'm probably just salty because I really like 9S, but I would've preferred him to lose to basically anyone else in the bracket (except Vulture for the same reasons). As it stands, there's a possibility that the 2016 winner is Deadpool and the 2017 winner is X-23, which is for lack of a better word, really lame.

for what it's worth, I think I would've rather seen that than a 9S v. 2B finals, which I feel like will happen otherwise
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9S
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Johnbobb posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

I'm probably just salty because I really like 9S, but I would've preferred him to lose to basically anyone else in the bracket (except Vulture for the same reasons). As it stands, there's a possibility that the 2016 winner is Deadpool and the 2017 winner is X-23, which is for lack of a better word, really lame.

for what it's worth, I think I would've rather seen that than a 9S v. 2B finals, which I feel like will happen otherwise

See, this I don't quite get. They may be from the same but they're at least original characters, and both have very different personalities from each other. Although my personal preference is that 2B probably shouldn't have gotten as far as she did.
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Considering the topic says Laura Kinney, and in the movie I'm pretty sure she was called Laura Howlett, I understand the confusion. (In her bio shown in the movie, which is labeled X-23, she is listed as Laura Howlett.)

I know in the comics shes Laura Kinney, but she isn't called that in Logan.
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I have to say after reading arguments I think having a character with previous existing forms is an unfair advantage. This isn't as bad as Deadpool by any stretch, but it's pushing it.
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Yeah Deadpool was a much worse case. He was the exact same character, just in a movie this time.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Yeah Deadpool was a much worse case. He was the exact same character, just in a movie this time.

Yep, and a character eveybody knew from earlier appearances. At least if it's a character that's never been adapted before (e.g. Oberyn) that is less of a problem.
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Alanna82 posted...

Considering the topic says Laura Kinney, and in the movie I'm pretty sure she was called Laura Howlett, I understand the confusion. (In her bio shown in the movie, which is labeled X-23, she is listed as Laura Howlett.)

I know in the comics shes Laura Kinney, but she isn't called that in Logan.

whoops, that's my bad

honestly I think in the movie it didn't even mention a last name so that might've just got added during the nomination phase
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Lightning Strikes posted...

I have to say after reading arguments I think having a character with previous existing forms is an unfair advantage. This isn't as bad as Deadpool by any stretch, but it's pushing it.

KamikazePotato posted...

Yeah Deadpool was a much worse case. He was the exact same character, just in a movie this time.

Yep, and a character eveybody knew from earlier appearances. At least if it's a character that's never been adapted before (e.g. Oberyn) that is less of a problem.

I do agree that Deadpool was a weird case. I don't think Laura's the same though. Like Oberyn, she hasn't really been adapted (I mean, she's appeared in things, but never like this in major live action/X-Men film canon)

and for what it's worth, the film appearances do really make the difference I think (see none of the Suicide Squad characters getting nominated despite how popular Joker/Harley Quinn are)
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Oberyn's questionable because his TV portrayal is exactly the same as the book portrayal. The TV show just introduced him to a wider audience.

I also think X-23 has been adapted a lot more than Oberyn, even if she hasn't been on the big screen. Comics, games, and animated movies do matter.

Either way it's murky waters you have to tread to think about. I still wish I had anti-voted Vulture back in Round 1 when the match ended dup being a tie. I almost did but I've never played Night in the Woods so I just abstained.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Either way it's murky waters you have to tread to think about.

I know, but at the same time, I've held like 7 of these already, and I really think this way has worked out better than the alternative

People get upset whether the characters are included or excluded, so it really just ends up being more enjoyable to be as inclusive as possible.
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and hell, excluding Vulture and Laura would've meant excluding literally all 5 Legion characters, which isn't fun for anyone
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Huh. Didn't know Legion was an adaptation actually.

Regardless I'll just have to root for 2B or Monika to win.
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Laura
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Could be worse. You could have led from Rd 1 Day 1 and lose on the semi final to johnbobb because of Laura. Sucks to be me. haha
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9S
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Ow
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Johnbobb posted...

and hell, excluding Vulture and Laura would've meant excluding literally all 5 Legion characters, which isn't fun for anyone

Not true actually, all but David are original.
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