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Roxborough4Ever 01/26/18 5:17:09 PM #51:	The Great Muta 22 posted... GregShmedley posted... Won't somebody please think of the poor, innocent drug dealers???? What a load of shit. I mean most people should have an issue with governmental over charging for the sake of it. If you're dealing pot out of your apartment and a school is a few blocks away, you shouldn't also get an additional charge. lol...thats just what you think.....sorry nobody is on your side for your bullshit cause.....they can get jobs just like everybody else in society instead of looking for authorization to sell drugs without some sort of consequences they can call racist..sorry i dont want trap houses and heroin dens 3000 meters around my primary and highschool kids in our neighborhood --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:894861564] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Won't somebody please think of the poor, innocent drug dealers???? What a load of shit.</quote> I mean most people should have an issue with governmental over charging for the sake of it. If you're dealing pot out of your apartment and a school is a few blocks away, you shouldn't also get an additional charge.</quote> lol...thats just what you think.....sorry nobody is on your side for your bullshit cause.....they can get jobs just like everybody else in society instead of looking for authorization to sell drugs without some sort of consequences they can call racist..sorry i dont want trap houses and heroin dens 3000 meters around my primary and highschool kids in our neighborhood</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 01/26/18 5:19:38 PM #53:	Mal_Fet posted... The law is not "disproportionately applied to black people. i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? but thank you for finally addressing what the guy in the video was saying instead of straw manning. now if i could only get you to admit the topic title is just a little disingenuous ..... edit: also please note that i was not defending the contents of the video, but taking issue with your misinterpretation of the argument. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:894861699] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>The law is not "disproportionately applied to black people.</quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? but thank you for finally addressing what the guy in the video was saying instead of straw manning. now if i could only get you to admit the topic title is just a little disingenuous ..... edit: also please note that i was not defending the contents of the video, but taking issue with your misinterpretation of the argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 01/26/18 5:20:18 PM #54:	Roxborough4Ever posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... Mal_Fet posted... FrisbeeDude posted... For anyone not interested in trolling, I believe this is the article https://thinkprogress.org/what-happens-when-an-entire-city-becomes-a-drug-free-school-zone-46c5cb8760f9/amp/?__twitter_impression=true It's a pretty good read. Essentially, school zones have been widened to include vast areas, often in communities of color. The opposite is true in whiter communities. It's being used inappropriately to jack up sentences. Most times, arrests don't involve children in anyway. It's manufactured leverage, often being used to get criminals of color to accept plea deals, further feeding the prison industrial complex So you think that selling drugs near a school shouldn't incur harsher penalties? not a single thing in his post indicates that's what he thinks. well he is supporting the narrative of BLM, which has been and always will be attempts to seek immunity from the law under the guise of special dispensation status.......get with the program, its VERY elementary Lol --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:894861742] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>For anyone not interested in trolling, I believe this is the article https://thinkprogress.org/what-happens-when-an-entire-city-becomes-a-drug-free-school-zone-46c5cb8760f9/amp/?__twitter_impression=true It's a pretty good read. Essentially, school zones have been widened to include vast areas, often in communities of color. The opposite is true in whiter communities. It's being used inappropriately to jack up sentences. Most times, arrests don't involve children in anyway. It's manufactured leverage, often being used to get criminals of color to accept plea deals, further feeding the prison industrial complex</quote> So you think that selling drugs near a school shouldn't incur harsher penalties?</quote> not a single thing in his post indicates that's what he thinks.</quote> well he is supporting the narrative of BLM, which has been and always will be attempts to seek immunity from the law under the guise of special dispensation status.......get with the program, its VERY elementary</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 01/26/18 5:22:05 PM #55:	Mal_Fet posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... right, but the point is the author is making a claim that "these rules are disproprotionately applied to black people, which is racist". you CLAIMED he said "this rule is racist" The law is not "disproportionately applied to black people. Anyone of any color selling drugs in a school zone have the same rule applied to them. What's the racism? Did you read the article i posted? --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:894861852] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>right, but the point is the author is making a claim that "these rules are disproprotionately applied to black people, which is racist". you CLAIMED he said "this rule is racist"</quote> The law is not "disproportionately applied to black people. Anyone of any color selling drugs in a school zone have the same rule applied to them. What's the racism?</quote> Did you read the article i posted?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:23:19 PM #57:	Giant_Aspirin posted... i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894861916] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? </quote> You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:25:38 PM #58:	Mal_Fet posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge. Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894862060] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? </quote> You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge.</quote> Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 01/26/18 5:26:16 PM #59:	Mal_Fet posted... You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. no, that's what the speaker in the video claimed and you misinterpreted it. Giant_Aspirin posted... edit: also please note that i was not defending the contents of the video, but taking issue with your misinterpretation of the argument. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:894862104] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people.</quote> no, that's what the speaker in the video claimed and you misinterpreted it. <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>edit: also please note that i was not defending the contents of the video, but taking issue with your misinterpretation of the argument.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:27:51 PM #60:	MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge. Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim. So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894862192] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? </quote> You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge.</quote> Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim.</quote> So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:29:03 PM #61:	Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge. Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim. So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good. So you agree your OP was a strawman? Good! --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894862259] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? </quote> You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge.</quote> Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim.</quote> So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good.</quote> So you agree your OP was a strawman? Good!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 01/26/18 5:29:44 PM #62:	GregShmedley posted... Won't somebody please think of the poor, innocent drug dealers???? What a load of shit. but the US Governement is one of the biggest drug dealers :O --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:894862292] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Won't somebody please think of the poor, innocent drug dealers???? What a load of shit.</quote> but the US Governement is one of the biggest drug dealers :O</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 01/26/18 5:30:19 PM #63:	Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge. Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim. So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good. i love how you reply to an accusation of creating a straw man with another straw man. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:894862335] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote> i can't speak to that either way because i have no evidence or sources to back up claims so i wont even try. do you have a source to back yours? </quote> You claimed that the laws disproportionately applied to black people. The burden of proof is on you. Until then, I will continue assuming that the police are not idiots and will not risk their careers by subverting the law just to get some white drug dealers off on a lower charge.</quote> Actually he was pointing out your strawman in the OP, he didn't make any claim.</quote> So we're in agreement that drug-free school zones are not racist then? Good.</quote> i love how you reply to an accusation of creating a straw man with another straw man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecoolgu 01/26/18 5:34:28 PM #64:	Geez. I like BLM and all, but never, ever give in to them if it means you have to do a bad thing. Drugs are crap. Also, they are ironically and falsely giving the impression that blacks love drugs. --- This signature only exists because my post would be eccentric without it. <cite>thecoolgu posted [p:894862576] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote>Geez. I like BLM and all, but never, ever give in to them if it means you have to do a bad thing. Drugs are crap. Also, they are ironically and falsely giving the impression that blacks love drugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:36:10 PM #66:	MC_BatCommander posted... So you agree your OP was a strawman? How was it a strawman --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894862683] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree your OP was a strawman?</quote> How was it a strawman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 01/26/18 5:36:57 PM #67:	Axiom posted... Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:894862724] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up</quote>While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 01/26/18 5:38:20 PM #68:	thanosibe posted... Axiom posted... Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house. how about a dude smoking a joint in his house while selling pot to the local school kids out of his house --- https://youtu.be/CFb29vz3IXg https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/9Z9i51px37o https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:894862794] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up</quote>While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house.</quote> how about a dude smoking a joint in his house while selling pot to the local school kids out of his house</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:41:09 PM #69:	Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... So you agree your OP was a strawman? How was it a strawman You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894862956] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree your OP was a strawman?</quote> How was it a strawman</quote> You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 01/26/18 5:41:23 PM #71:	zH0mPfR posted... thanosibe posted... Axiom posted... Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house. how about a dude smoking a joint in his house while selling pot to the local school kids out of his house An adult smoking on their own I'm not worried about no. Selling drugs to kids; punish them to the full extent of the law. And I would say the increased sentences for any race of person selling drugs to school kids is nothing but a good thing. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:894862972] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>zH0mPfR posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>Just watched the video. Calling it racist is an extreme stretch since it affects anyone that it happens to but I agree with his points that getting busted in your own apartment that falls within a "school zone" and getting an extended sentence/more charges than you would if you happened to walk down the block is really fucked up</quote>While I tend to agree. If the drug they are using is illegal it doesn't matter if they're at home. It's still illegal. At the same time, there are much more important things for the police force to worry about than a dude smoking a joint in his house.</quote> how about a dude smoking a joint in his house while selling pot to the local school kids out of his house</quote>An adult smoking on their own I'm not worried about no. Selling drugs to kids; punish them to the full extent of the law. And I would say the increased sentences for any race of person selling drugs to school kids is nothing but a good thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:47:40 PM #72:	MC_BatCommander posted... You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" Semantics. Also, a few blocks is not excessive. Kids at my middle school would walk further than that for marijuana. And even in the most extreme case he gives, 3 miles, there's still no good explanation for how that's racist. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894863304] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist"</quote> Semantics. Also, a few blocks is not excessive. Kids at my middle school would walk further than that for marijuana. And even in the most extreme case he gives, 3 miles, there's still no good explanation for how that's racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/26/18 5:49:06 PM #73:	He had me until 'cuz racism!' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894863374] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote>He had me until 'cuz racism!'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:50:25 PM #74:	Mal_Fet posted... Semantics. No, straw man. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894863446] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Semantics.</quote> No, straw man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/26/18 5:51:17 PM #75:	MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... So you agree your OP was a strawman? How was it a strawman You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is. He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894863488] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree your OP was a strawman?</quote> How was it a strawman</quote> You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is.</quote> He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:52:05 PM #76:	darkjedilink posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... So you agree your OP was a strawman? How was it a strawman You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is. He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....' Look I don't even agree with the dude in the video, I just don't like the disingenuous post TC made. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894863537] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree your OP was a strawman?</quote> How was it a strawman</quote> You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is.</quote> He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....'</quote> Look I don't even agree with the dude in the video, I just don't like the disingenuous post TC made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:53:13 PM #78:	MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... Semantics. No, straw man. No, semantics. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894863602] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Semantics.</quote> No, straw man.</quote> No, semantics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/26/18 5:54:58 PM #80:	LightHawKnight posted... Isn't this the idiot that thought Planet of the Apes was racist cause they had a monkey in a blue vest and he thought they were mocking him? Yes. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894863700] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>Isn't this the idiot that thought Planet of the Apes was racist cause they had a monkey in a blue vest and he thought they were mocking him?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/26/18 5:55:06 PM #81:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" Semantics. Also, a few blocks is not excessive. Kids at my middle school would walk further than that for marijuana. And even in the most extreme case he gives, 3 miles, there's still no good explanation for how that's racist. lmao thats not semantics, its two entirely different scenarios How do you figure In both statements he's calling a non-racist policy racist The only possible issue you could make an argument of is that being within spitting distance of a school doesn't count as being at the school. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894863715] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist"</quote> Semantics. Also, a few blocks is not excessive. Kids at my middle school would walk further than that for marijuana. And even in the most extreme case he gives, 3 miles, there's still no good explanation for how that's racist.</quote> lmao thats not semantics, its two entirely different scenarios</quote> How do you figure In both statements he's calling a non-racist policy racist The only possible issue you could make an argument of is that being within spitting distance of a school doesn't count as being at the school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 01/26/18 5:55:58 PM #82:	Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... Semantics. No, straw man. No, semantics. Nah straw man. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:894863771] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Semantics.</quote> No, straw man.</quote> No, semantics.</quote> Nah straw man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 6:02:17 PM #84:	shockthemonkey posted... The difference between selling drugs to adults in your own home without children present and selling drugs inside a school is not semantics. I didn't say inside the school. I was reverting to a policy that keeps drugs away from schools. You know, policies to ensure drug-free schools. Are you really so desperate to defend BLM that you will die on this hill --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894864127] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>The difference between selling drugs to adults in your own home without children present and selling drugs inside a school is not semantics.</quote> I didn't say inside the school. I was reverting to a policy that keeps drugs away from schools. You know, policies to ensure drug-free schools. Are you really so desperate to defend BLM that you will die on this hill</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 6:05:57 PM #86:	shockthemonkey posted... lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction It's not an important distinction. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894864303] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction</quote> It's not an important distinction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 01/26/18 6:08:26 PM #87:	BLM require people to think as many things as possible are racist in order to justify their existence. The fact is, real anti-black racism today is pretty much limited to a few people not liking black people and not being afraid to say so. The higher-ups among Democrats aren't happy about this, given that they're among the people who don't like black people (I suspect the average everyday Democrats really do believe they're actually fighting against a problem; just that the problem doesn't actually exist); since they can no longer openly try to keep black people oppressed, they instead resort to convincing them everyone else is out to get them and that they need to focus on fighting that, rather than actually living their lives and succeeding. Never forget - the Democrats are the ones who didn't want to end slavery. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:894864433] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote>BLM require people to think as many things as possible are racist in order to justify their existence. The fact is, real anti-black racism today is pretty much limited to a few people not liking black people and not being afraid to say so. The higher-ups among Democrats aren't happy about this, given that they're among the people who don't like black people (I suspect the average everyday Democrats really do believe they're actually fighting against a problem; just that the problem doesn't actually exist); since they can no longer openly try to keep black people oppressed, they instead resort to convincing them everyone else is out to get them and that they need to focus on fighting that, rather than actually living their lives and succeeding. Never forget - the Democrats are the ones who didn't want to end slavery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 01/26/18 6:14:20 PM #89:	Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction It's not an important distinction. Lmao it's two entirely different things --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:894864759] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction</quote> It's not an important distinction.</quote> Lmao it's two entirely different things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/26/18 6:16:29 PM #90:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction It's not an important distinction. It is, especially when entire cities fall within school zones. But his criticisms are not only restricted to schools with excessive zones, are they? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894864874] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>lmao you said drug free schools and now youre trying to backpedal and say you meant something else instead of just admitting that its an important distinction</quote> It's not an important distinction.</quote> It is, especially when entire cities fall within school zones.</quote> But his criticisms are not only restricted to schools with excessive zones, are they?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 01/26/18 6:33:49 PM #92:	Im still trying to understand why the opinion of some dude named Derray who I had never heard of until this topic is so important to Mal... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:894865875] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote>Im still trying to understand why the opinion of some dude named Derray who I had never heard of until this topic is so important to Mal...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 01/26/18 6:35:26 PM #93:	darkjedilink posted... MC_BatCommander posted... Mal_Fet posted... MC_BatCommander posted... So you agree your OP was a strawman? How was it a strawman You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is. He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....' Why are drug free zones a good idea for urban communities but not suburban ones? Why is movie theatre a drug free zone, but a golf course isn't? --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:894865953] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>So you agree your OP was a strawman?</quote> How was it a strawman</quote> You turned "application of drug-free zones that extend far beyond school grounds and into majority black areas is a racist policy" into "drug free schools are racist" If that ain't a strawman I don't know what is.</quote> He literally makes it out to be racist by saying 'just like other laws that cause increased arrests in black or brown people....'</quote> Why are drug free zones a good idea for urban communities but not suburban ones? Why is movie theatre a drug free zone, but a golf course isn't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 01/26/18 6:57:26 PM #94:	shockthemonkey posted... That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894867281] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. </quote> So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 7:10:15 PM #96:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence? Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school? I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!" --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894867988] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. </quote> So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence?</quote> Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school?</quote> I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 01/26/18 7:14:03 PM #98:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence? Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school? I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!" But thats not what the video discussed either. You cant handle this as an honest conversation for some reason. Kids will (and do) walk several blocks from school to buy drugs. Ergo, harsher penalties for selling drugs within that radius is completely fair for keeping schools drug-free. Do you disagree? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:894868201] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. </quote> So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence?</quote> Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school?</quote> I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!"</quote> But thats not what the video discussed either. You cant handle this as an honest conversation for some reason.</quote> Kids will (and do) walk several blocks from school to buy drugs. Ergo, harsher penalties for selling drugs within that radius is completely fair for keeping schools drug-free. Do you disagree?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 01/26/18 7:17:00 PM #99:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence? Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school? I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!" But thats not what the video discussed either. You cant handle this as an honest conversation for some reason. Let's not act like it's just this topic alone where Mal can't have an honest conversation. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:894868325] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> That doesnt matter at all - his criticisms are about drugs within school zones and not within schools themselves, which is a hugely important distinction to make when discussing this. Considering these laws are about protecting children and they are enforced when there are no children present inside the homes of adults rather than at a school, yes, its an important distinction. </quote> So if a guy were selling drugs across the street from a school, and the police didn't happen to catch him selling drugs to a child at the time, you don't believe he should get a harsher sentence? </quote> Do you think thats the same thing as selling drugs in a school? </quote> I think the difference is too trivial to worry about. "Look, he's not selling drugs in the school, he's on the sidewalk!"</quote> But thats not what the video discussed either. You cant handle this as an honest conversation for some reason.</quote> Let's not act like it's just this topic alone where Mal can't have an honest conversation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasualGuy 01/26/18 7:17:20 PM #100:	this reminds me of what happened at a local elementary school this year. A bunch of black parents were saying the school's testing was racist against black kids for using proper sentences instead of using slang like "finna" and a few other examples I don't remember. It was a bit comical to see that on the news. --- http://i.imgur.com/MoE9O68.gif <cite>CasualGuy posted [p:894868345] in Drug-free ... [t:76246186]...</cite> <quote>this reminds me of what happened at a local elementary school this year. A bunch of black parents were saying the school's testing was racist against black kids for using proper sentences instead of using slang like "finna" and a few other examples I don't remember. It was a bit comical to see that on the news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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