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ManSpread 01/26/18 3:08:57 PM #1:	ASW and Bamco saving the FGC --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894854220] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote> ASW and Bamco saving the FGC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 01/26/18 3:11:05 PM #2:	Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:894854341] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 01/26/18 3:11:58 PM #3:	Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me *saturate* <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:894854398] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 01/26/18 3:12:51 PM #4:	DezDroppedFreak posted... SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time it's gonna be so fucking lit --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:894854452] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote> SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time</quote> it's gonna be so fucking lit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 01/26/18 3:15:23 PM #5:	Surprising literally no one. It's going to appeal to DBZ fans; that's a given. It's an ASW title so the anime fighter crowd is interested. It's a dynamic three on three fighter ala MVC with assists and fun to look at. It looks pretty. The spectacle is important, since that's what's drawing non-competitive fans to the MK series, which is the best selling FG franchise right now. It appears to be a competently programmed fighting game that's getting featured at this years EVO. Also SF and MvC have had troubled roll-outs that have depressed their fandom within the FGC. Also this is kind of a dead zone. These things together equal more FGC attention. There are several gamer demographics being coddled here, and if there is any overlap in a fan, their purchasing it is almost guaranteed if they can afford it. In theory it should be doing very well. So seeing that reflected in the numbers isn't really surprising. The only reason I've not purchased it, is because I've already decided BBCrossTag appeals to me more and that's where I want to drop the $60.00. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:894854614] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Surprising literally no one. It's going to appeal to DBZ fans; that's a given. It's an ASW title so the anime fighter crowd is interested. It's a dynamic three on three fighter ala MVC with assists and fun to look at. It looks pretty. The spectacle is important, since that's what's drawing non-competitive fans to the MK series, which is the best selling FG franchise right now. It appears to be a competently programmed fighting game that's getting featured at this years EVO. Also SF and MvC have had troubled roll-outs that have depressed their fandom within the FGC. Also this is kind of a dead zone. These things together equal more FGC attention. There are several gamer demographics being coddled here, and if there is any overlap in a fan, their purchasing it is almost guaranteed if they can afford it. In theory it should be doing very well. So seeing that reflected in the numbers isn't really surprising. The only reason I've not purchased it, is because I've already decided BBCrossTag appeals to me more and that's where I want to drop the $60.00.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 01/26/18 3:16:50 PM #6:	Based off Steam --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Capcom Defense Force <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:894854702] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Based off Steam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathVelvien 01/26/18 3:21:18 PM #7:	Game looks damn good and I'd get it, but a) dental fees coming up, and b) the Cross Tag DLC fiasco currently has me in the mindset to not give Arcsys a dime for the time being. This game's season pass doesn't help matters either. --- Under Night: Phonon/Orie/Enkidu/Wagner \| Don't support Arc System Works. Arizona Diamondbacks: 93-69 \| Arizona Cardinals: 8-8 <cite>DeathVelvien posted [p:894854996] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Game looks damn good and I'd get it, but a) dental fees coming up, and b) the Cross Tag DLC fiasco currently has me in the mindset to not give Arcsys a dime for the time being. This game's season pass doesn't help matters either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 01/26/18 3:28:21 PM #8:	It's really the better fighting game. --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:894855413] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>It's really the better fighting game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 01/26/18 3:35:29 PM #9:	It's a DBZ game. Of course this was going to happen. <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:894855836] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>It's a DBZ game. Of course this was going to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/26/18 3:39:27 PM #10:	Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894856062] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 01/26/18 3:44:17 PM #11:	ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists They both look pretty simple when compared to other anime fighters. I think the presence of other basic fighters doesn't change the fact that this one is no VF or MB. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:894856371] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> They both look pretty simple when compared to other anime fighters. I think the presence of other basic fighters doesn't change the fact that this one is no VF or MB.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 3:44:35 PM #12:	ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894856399] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 3:44:45 PM #13:	Also the game will be dead in 4 months --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894856406] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Also the game will be dead in 4 months</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/26/18 3:48:29 PM #14:	Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894856640] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 01/26/18 3:50:21 PM #15:	There's the possibility new depths will be discovered, but in a lot of cases that doesn't happen. And if it doesn't happen, its community won't last more an a year. ManSpread posted... Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult Those situations are less common. The bulk of SFV gameplay happens in the neutral, and the key is knowing when you can and can't press buttons, which itself is just knowledge of frame data for the cast. Now once you know frame data you know what attacks are better at stuff opposing pokes, and from that you can look at the normals with crush counter properties and figure out which normals are best at fishing for crush counters. All this is how you get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=195&v=yW_ic5gfN68 --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:894856722] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>There's the possibility new depths will be discovered, but in a lot of cases that doesn't happen. And if it doesn't happen, its community won't last more an a year. <cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> Those situations are less common. The bulk of SFV gameplay happens in the neutral, and the key is knowing when you can and can't press buttons, which itself is just knowledge of frame data for the cast. Now once you know frame data you know what attacks are better at stuff opposing pokes, and from that you can look at the normals with crush counter properties and figure out which normals are best at fishing for crush counters. All this is how you get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=195&v=yW_ic5gfN68</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 3:51:52 PM #16:	ManSpread posted... Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult Sf v doesnt us a dial a combo system you god damn ignoramus. It uses links with very few chain combos. If you got crush countered, you need to stop mashing. Also it isnt 2016 anymore. Get new material. --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894856816] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> Sf v doesnt us a dial a combo system you god damn ignoramus. It uses links with very few chain combos. If you got crush countered, you need to stop mashing. Also it isnt 2016 anymore. Get new material.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:52:02 PM #17:	I don't think DBFZ is as simple as people think. On the surface it seems so because characters don't have a ton of individual moves, but even the pros are still learning mechanics. It was only last week that they discovered that you can call assist supers during regular combos without having to initiate your own super first. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894856824] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>I don't think DBFZ is as simple as people think. On the surface it seems so because characters don't have a ton of individual moves, but even the pros are still learning mechanics. It was only last week that they discovered that you can call assist supers during regular combos without having to initiate your own super first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/26/18 3:53:05 PM #18:	ManSpread posted... Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult are you thinking mvci? SFV doesn't have a dial a combo. DBFZ does, though. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:894856875] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> are you thinking mvci? SFV doesn't have a dial a combo. DBFZ does, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 01/26/18 3:55:40 PM #19:	ManSpread posted... Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult You do realize DBFZ has literal auto combos, right? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:894857016] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> You do realize DBFZ has literal auto combos, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Comfy_Pillow 01/26/18 3:55:49 PM #20:	https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg <cite>Comfy_Pillow posted [p:894857021] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:55:52 PM #21:	Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894857024] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/26/18 3:56:20 PM #22:	Can't wait to play when I get home! My homies are pumped for some coop fighting action. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894857046] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Can't wait to play when I get home! My homies are pumped for some coop fighting action.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 3:57:11 PM #23:	s0nicfan posted... Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo. Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho... --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894857098] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo.</quote> Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 3:57:39 PM #24:	Comfy_Pillow posted... https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg Oh god lmfao --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894857123] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> Oh god lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 01/26/18 3:57:52 PM #25:	I feel like Persona 4 Arena is a decent comparison here, for a game that looked like a slowed down version of BlazBlue with auto combos, and less depth than its spiritual progenitors, but that people managed to stretch out for a year until they got the updated release to breathe new life into things. s0nicfan posted... Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo. There's some other considerations? Does this do the most damage, or does it give me a hard knockdown? How can I best take advantage of the frame advantage this gives me if I go for the knockdown. Alternatively, there's the issue if it's worth doing a combo if it resets the situation to normal (poor Gief), or if I should instead go for a line that keeps me in a position where I can keep applying pressure. What gives me the most meter? What about stun? --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:894857140] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Persona 4 Arena is a decent comparison here, for a game that looked like a slowed down version of BlazBlue with auto combos, and less depth than its spiritual progenitors, but that people managed to stretch out for a year until they got the updated release to breathe new life into things. <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo.</quote> There's some other considerations? Does this do the most damage, or does it give me a hard knockdown? How can I best take advantage of the frame advantage this gives me if I go for the knockdown. Alternatively, there's the issue if it's worth doing a combo if it resets the situation to normal (poor Gief), or if I should instead go for a line that keeps me in a position where I can keep applying pressure. What gives me the most meter? What about stun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/18 3:59:29 PM #26:	Stallion_Prime posted... s0nicfan posted... Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo. Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho... Mechanically you're correct. Functionally I don't see the difference. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:894857237] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo.</quote> Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho...</quote> Mechanically you're correct. Functionally I don't see the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stallion_Prime 01/26/18 4:02:41 PM #27:	s0nicfan posted... Stallion_Prime posted... s0nicfan posted... Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo. Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho... Mechanically you're correct. Functionally I don't see the difference. Thats on you then i guess. --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif <cite>Stallion_Prime posted [p:894857436] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Unless he's implying it's "dial a combo" by nature of the fact that for most characters you're going to be using the exact same optimal combo or two against all opponents at every stage of the match, which is kind of true. SF has always been kind of bad about situational combos... generally once you've hit confirmed you either do your meter combo or your meterless combo.</quote> Theyre not even close to being the same thing tho...</quote> Mechanically you're correct. Functionally I don't see the difference.</quote> Thats on you then i guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 01/26/18 4:07:42 PM #28:	You'll have like three or four combos. Poke hit confirm into knockdown Basic BnB. (Ideally into knockdown/mix up) BnB from counterhit where you can situationally hit confirm lights into mediums into knockdowns Crush counter goodness (for when you gamble and guess correctly) V.Trigger combo (for when you need to extend a combo, or set one up). You can staple a super on to any of these. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:894857705] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>You'll have like three or four combos. Poke hit confirm into knockdown Basic BnB. (Ideally into knockdown/mix up) BnB from counterhit where you can situationally hit confirm lights into mediums into knockdowns Crush counter goodness (for when you gamble and guess correctly) V.Trigger combo (for when you need to extend a combo, or set one up). You can staple a super on to any of these.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/26/18 8:00:19 PM #29:	hollow_shrine posted... There's the possibility new depths will be discovered, but in a lot of cases that doesn't happen. And if it doesn't happen, its community won't last more an a year. ManSpread posted... Stallion_Prime posted... ManSpread posted... Solid Sonic posted... Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. `>implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI` How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult Those situations are less common. The bulk of SFV gameplay happens in the neutral, and the key is knowing when you can and can't press buttons, which itself is just knowledge of frame data for the cast. Now once you know frame data you know what attacks are better at stuff opposing pokes, and from that you can look at the normals with crush counter properties and figure out which normals are best at fishing for crush counters. All this is how you get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=195&v=yW_ic5gfN68 I haven't played SFV since the start of S2 so if the game has a neutral now that's a new addition --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894870803] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>There's the possibility new depths will be discovered, but in a lot of cases that doesn't happen. And if it doesn't happen, its community won't last more an a year. <cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ManSpread posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote>Undeserved, given the rampant simplicity of it. Though I spit on Tekken 7 at the same time. >implying this will be a better game than Soul Calibur VI</quote> How you gonna call DBFZ simple when SFV exists</quote> Sf v is more simple than 4 but its has more going for it than dbfz. Dont play dumb</quote> Crush counter -> dialed combo so difficult</quote> Those situations are less common. The bulk of SFV gameplay happens in the neutral, and the key is knowing when you can and can't press buttons, which itself is just knowledge of frame data for the cast. Now once you know frame data you know what attacks are better at stuff opposing pokes, and from that you can look at the normals with crush counter properties and figure out which normals are best at fishing for crush counters. All this is how you get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=195&v=yW_ic5gfN68</quote> I haven't played SFV since the start of S2 so if the game has a neutral now that's a new addition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/26/18 8:10:03 PM #30:	Comfy_Pillow posted... https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg Literally theft. I wonder if he can call the cops <cite>Zikten posted [p:894871346] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> Literally theft. I wonder if he can call the cops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 01/26/18 8:11:17 PM #31:	Autocombos do very little damage. They're there to ease you in to the game, then you have to learn to chain together moves properly to get 40-50% damage. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:894871419] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Autocombos do very little damage. They're there to ease you in to the game, then you have to learn to chain together moves properly to get 40-50% damage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 01/26/18 8:15:08 PM #32:	lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:894871642] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 01/26/18 8:17:08 PM #33:	I mean it makes sense, it has all the right recipe to a great selling game. DBZ is a cash cow, game looks great aesthetically, and 3vs3 gameplay (it also helped that MvsCI 2vs2 looked like a step down for most people). However, I only played the beta and the game felt barebones which is why I didn't bother buying it. They really need to find new things in this game or else it's going to go dead in a month, maybe it can pull a Persona 4 arena. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:894871748] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>I mean it makes sense, it has all the right recipe to a great selling game. DBZ is a cash cow, game looks great aesthetically, and 3vs3 gameplay (it also helped that MvsCI 2vs2 looked like a step down for most people). However, I only played the beta and the game felt barebones which is why I didn't bother buying it. They really need to find new things in this game or else it's going to go dead in a month, maybe it can pull a Persona 4 arena.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 01/26/18 8:37:53 PM #34:	ModLogic posted... lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:894872951] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about</quote> SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 01/26/18 8:39:41 PM #35:	Comfy_Pillow posted... https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg Oh fuck lol --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:894873064] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> Oh fuck lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 01/26/18 9:07:22 PM #36:	Blue_Inigo posted... Comfy_Pillow posted... https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg Oh fuck lol Fuck that guy. --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:894874686] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> Oh fuck lol</quote> Fuck that guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingGames 01/26/18 9:28:11 PM #37:	Stallion_Prime posted... Also the game will be dead in 4 months more like 2 weeks --- https://my.mixtape.moe/xmsgxb.jpg <cite>FightingGames posted [p:894875853] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stallion_Prime posted...</cite> <quote>Also the game will be dead in 4 months</quote> more like 2 weeks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 01/26/18 9:29:34 PM #38:	I really think I'm going to regret this purchase in a few months and wished I waited for it to go on sale. --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:894875933] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>I really think I'm going to regret this purchase in a few months and wished I waited for it to go on sale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 01/26/18 10:23:46 PM #39:	Terra-enforcer posted... ModLogic posted... lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game. Yeah. It's just that nobody actually wants to play it. <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:894878879] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about</quote> SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game.</quote> Yeah. It's just that nobody actually wants to play it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 01/26/18 10:49:17 PM #40:	Solid Sonic posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Comfy_Pillow posted... https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg Oh fuck lol Fuck that guy. Ha ha. Oh, man, what an asshole. But that first guy is so stupid it's hilarious. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:894880194] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Sonic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Comfy_Pillow posted...</cite> <quote>https://i.redd.it/6qg41scy0gc01.jpg</quote> Oh fuck lol</quote> Fuck that guy.</quote> Ha ha. Oh, man, what an asshole. But that first guy is so stupid it's hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AvantgardeAClue 01/26/18 10:50:17 PM #41:	>PC Can't say I find this surprising; most people play fighters on consoles --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:894880251] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>>PC Can't say I find this surprising; most people play fighters on consoles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XplodnPnguins92 01/26/18 10:53:06 PM #42:	what about on ps4, where this matters? --- http://i.imgur.com/Dn9vLMi.jpg <cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted [p:894880400] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>what about on ps4, where this matters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/26/18 11:18:13 PM #43:	Terra-enforcer posted... ModLogic posted... lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game. Has yet to meet its expected 1 month launch sales in nearly 2 years --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894881557] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>lol sfv and mvci flopped so its nothing to brag about</quote> SFV actually didn't though. It's bringing in a lot of profits and continues to be the most watched fighting game.</quote> Has yet to meet its expected 1 month launch sales in nearly 2 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScottSweatshirt 01/26/18 11:23:21 PM #44:	Most enjoyable fighting game Ive played since ever, hope the sales unleashes an era of 2D anime fighters, naruto next? Using Kankoros puppets with this engine is the most I would look forward to, oddly enough --- Doggy mask, Pig hat, Penguin backpack! <cite>ScottSweatshirt posted [p:894881796] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Most enjoyable fighting game Ive played since ever, hope the sales unleashes an era of 2D anime fighters, naruto next? Using Kankoros puppets with this engine is the most I would look forward to, oddly enough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 01/26/18 11:24:39 PM #45:	_Near_ posted... DezDroppedFreak posted... SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time it's gonna be so fucking lit As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully. --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:894881842] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DezDroppedFreak posted...</cite> <quote> SCVI gonna be the first thing I've bought day one in a loooooong time</quote> it's gonna be so fucking lit</quote> As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 01/26/18 11:31:34 PM #46:	Bloodmoon77 posted... As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully. I mean, you might be right, considering the reversal edge system. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:894882143] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote> As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully.</quote> I mean, you might be right, considering the reversal edge system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScottSweatshirt 01/26/18 11:34:48 PM #47:	Or Garras sand techniques, this must happen, I infer I just might consider slitting my wrist in the most lethal manner if I never am granted the opportunity --- Doggy mask, Pig hat, Penguin backpack! <cite>ScottSweatshirt posted [p:894882283] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote>Or Garras sand techniques, this must happen, I infer I just might consider slitting my wrist in the most lethal manner if I never am granted the opportunity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 01/26/18 11:35:32 PM #48:	XplodnPnguins92 posted... what about on ps4, where this matters? I don't see why it wouldn't be even higher on PS4 since that's where most of the demographic is for this game <cite>Reis posted [p:894882321] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted...</cite> <quote>what about on ps4, where this matters?</quote> I don't see why it wouldn't be even higher on PS4 since that's where most of the demographic is for this game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodmoon77 01/26/18 11:41:20 PM #49:	_Near_ posted... Bloodmoon77 posted... As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully. I mean, you might be right, considering the reversal edge system. We'll see. I'm still salty about getting burned for the collectors edition of 5. The lack of content and characters was a tragedy, but the character creation was the shining light. If they just took the story features and creation classes from 3 and mixed them with 5 then 6 could be pretty damn good. --- I wouldn't trust this company with making a cheese sandwich, they'd start an additional kickstarter for the mayo-ssjmatthew on Comcept's MN9 <cite>Bloodmoon77 posted [p:894882588] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodmoon77 posted...</cite> <quote> As much as I want to get behind these after the atrocity of 5 I would suggest we tread carefully.</quote> I mean, you might be right, considering the reversal edge system.</quote> We'll see. I'm still salty about getting burned for the collectors edition of 5. The lack of content and characters was a tragedy, but the character creation was the shining light. If they just took the story features and creation classes from 3 and mixed them with 5 then 6 could be pretty damn good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 01/26/18 11:52:17 PM #50:	Reis posted... XplodnPnguins92 posted... what about on ps4, where this matters? I don't see why it wouldn't be even higher on PS4 since that's where most of the demographic is for this game Yeah this PS4 is the weeb console --- http://i.imgur.com/7PDx6Ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WStMw87.gif http://i.imgur.com/aer0vok.gif https://i.imgur.com/XGlw6Ii.jpg <cite>ManSpread posted [p:894883072] in DBFZ has a... [t:76245840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>XplodnPnguins92 posted...</cite> <quote>what about on ps4, where this matters?</quote> I don't see why it wouldn't be even higher on PS4 since that's where most of the demographic is for this game</quote> Yeah this PS4 is the weeb console</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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