W2 was the last really good mainline Pokemon game.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/23/18 8:52:20 PM #1:	Confirm or Deny Confirm Deny LOLMON! They all suck View Results I didn't hate X and Y by any stretch, but it felt like a step back from B/W and B/W2. Sun and Moon introduced some new Pokemon I like and did away with HM's, but my god that story is garbage. It felt like babies first Pokemon. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894669300] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote> Confirm or Deny Confirm Deny LOLMON! They all suck View Results I didn't hate X and Y by any stretch, but it felt like a step back from B/W and B/W2. Sun and Moon introduced some new Pokemon I like and did away with HM's, but my god that story is garbage. It felt like babies first Pokemon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kelystic 01/23/18 8:53:28 PM #2:	PWT, I like those type expert battles too. --- http://i.imgur.com/xNf1K9h.jpg <cite>Kelystic posted [p:894669371] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>PWT, I like those type expert battles too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JustMonika 01/23/18 8:54:04 PM #3:	I'm having trouble getting into to W2 but I did just finish UM. --- https://i.imgtc.com/qJzeN65.png <cite>JustMonika posted [p:894669415] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I'm having trouble getting into to W2 but I did just finish UM.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 01/23/18 9:01:35 PM #5:	D Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby was the beginning of Game Freak getting complacent. The fact that Ultra Sun/Moon is barely an enhancement adds to that. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. <cite>AvantgardeAClue posted [p:894669923] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>D Alpha Sapphire/Omega Ruby was the beginning of Game Freak getting complacent. The fact that Ultra Sun/Moon is barely an enhancement adds to that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FvP 01/23/18 9:03:32 PM #6:	I like them all, except Diamond / Pearl / Plat --- FvP \| falco_vs_peach \| ^"The Shinies" Member^ \| Adventure Time Member #FreeCMC PBWSB PDPSB /pdpsb/ PBWSB User Tournament Winner: DiabIo <cite>FvP posted [p:894670089] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I like them all, except Diamond / Pearl / Plat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 01/23/18 9:04:50 PM #7:	I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so... --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:894670185] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 01/23/18 9:05:20 PM #8:	C, BW2 was the peak of the series for me. --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:894670220] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>C, BW2 was the peak of the series for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/23/18 9:07:03 PM #9:	BLAKUboy posted... I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so... Competitive was amazingly balanced, the story of the game was the best it has ever been with its meta-commentary on the whole idea of Pokemon, and getting to face off against a bunch of older leaders/elite 4/champions... love it! --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894670331] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so...</quote> Competitive was amazingly balanced, the story of the game was the best it has ever been with its meta-commentary on the whole idea of Pokemon, and getting to face off against a bunch of older leaders/elite 4/champions... love it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 01/23/18 9:07:41 PM #10:	Not counting remakes, I agree. But OR/AS were great too. --- "Someday I too will fly... and find you again!" https://i.imgur.com/jl4Ir5j.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:894670381] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>Not counting remakes, I agree. But OR/AS were great too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 01/23/18 9:08:24 PM #11:	Wasn't that the one that put the daycare center in the postgame? 0/10 --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:894670434] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't that the one that put the daycare center in the postgame? 0/10</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Airhammy 01/23/18 9:08:31 PM #12:	I loved X --- http://air-hammer.deviantart.com/ <cite>Airhammy posted [p:894670447] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I loved X</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mehmeh1 01/23/18 10:11:40 PM #13:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... BLAKUboy posted... I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so... Competitive was amazingly balanced, the story of the game was the best it has ever been with its meta-commentary on the whole idea of Pokemon, and getting to face off against a bunch of older leaders/elite 4/champions... love it! as much as I say b2w2 are best pokemon games (along with hgss) in terms of single player, multiplayer is something else, weather wars, HAs, lots of gen 5 pokemon getting 130+ in some base stat.... it was the beginning of the power creep gen 6 worsened and gen 7 has soooooooooomewhat tried to fix --- FC: 3840-6927-7945, have OR/Y/SM4SH/PSMD I'm a youtuber, here is my link: https://m.youtube.com/#/user/bigbangpegasusmaster.I play games <cite>mehmeh1 posted [p:894674312] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I struggle to find anything about gen 5 "good". I also thoroughly enjoyed ORAS, so...</quote> Competitive was amazingly balanced, the story of the game was the best it has ever been with its meta-commentary on the whole idea of Pokemon, and getting to face off against a bunch of older leaders/elite 4/champions... love it!</quote> as much as I say b2w2 are best pokemon games (along with hgss) in terms of single player, multiplayer is something else, weather wars, HAs, lots of gen 5 pokemon getting 130+ in some base stat.... it was the beginning of the power creep gen 6 worsened and gen 7 has soooooooooomewhat tried to fix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 01/23/18 10:16:15 PM #14:	B/W1 were the last Pokemon games I really enjoyed, even if, in retrospect, they basically sparked the series' downfall. I tried playing a couple hours of B/W2, but for some reason it didn't suck me in like all the previous Pokemon games I'd played at the time. I will say that X/Y was the point where I for sure was done with the series; Mega Pokemon, the transition to 3D, and just how the game felt for me compared to previous installments killed any remaining interest I had in the franchise (I still enjoy playing the older games, though). --- http://imgur.com/1EOFcjn http://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:894674606] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>B/W1 were the last Pokemon games I really enjoyed, even if, in retrospect, they basically sparked the series' downfall. I tried playing a couple hours of B/W2, but for some reason it didn't suck me in like all the previous Pokemon games I'd played at the time. I will say that X/Y was the point where I for sure was done with the series; Mega Pokemon, the transition to 3D, and just how the game felt for me compared to previous installments killed any remaining interest I had in the franchise (I still enjoy playing the older games, though).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kelystic 01/23/18 10:16:36 PM #15:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PvtFVtNhuo --- http://i.imgur.com/xNf1K9h.jpg <cite>Kelystic posted [p:894674624] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PvtFVtNhuo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/23/18 10:18:13 PM #16:	D. Sun and Moon was the best generation in a long time. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894674754] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>D. Sun and Moon was the best generation in a long time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 01/23/18 10:20:41 PM #17:	creativerealms posted... D. Sun and Moon was the best generation in a long time. This. Ultra Sun/Moon was a waste of money though. <cite>Vertania posted [p:894674927] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote>D. Sun and Moon was the best generation in a long time.</quote> This. Ultra Sun/Moon was a waste of money though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thisisboris2 01/23/18 10:21:47 PM #18:	how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3 --- i dunno why but yall are cray cray coocoo heads <cite>thisisboris2 posted [p:894674995] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireOfChaos 01/23/18 10:22:03 PM #19:	Long hard D. --- 3DS: 1590-4884-9269 \| Switch: SW-3337-1639-7884 Discord link: https://discord.gg/hDQ6rWb \| ''Don't forget me!'' ~ RIP Ardainian Soldier meme, Died 18 Jan, 2018 <cite>SapphireOfChaos posted [p:894675013] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>Long hard D.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 01/23/18 10:28:18 PM #20:	thisisboris2 posted... how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3 Always hated Gen 3 and had no interest in OR/AS until last year, but it was pretty good. The radar/finder/whatever on the bottom screen made it easy to track if you caught everything in a given area. Post-game had a ton of stuff to do too (every Pokemon that wasn't in X/Y, great move tutors). <cite>Vertania posted [p:894675435] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>thisisboris2 posted...</cite> <quote>how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3</quote> Always hated Gen 3 and had no interest in OR/AS until last year, but it was pretty good. The radar/finder/whatever on the bottom screen made it easy to track if you caught everything in a given area. Post-game had a ton of stuff to do too (every Pokemon that wasn't in X/Y, great move tutors).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonImps 01/23/18 10:34:15 PM #21:	It could just be that I've burnt myself out on the series, but B2/W2 are more middling entries imo, I'd rank Sun/Moon over them. <cite>DragonImps posted [p:894675866] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>It could just be that I've burnt myself out on the series, but B2/W2 are more middling entries imo, I'd rank Sun/Moon over them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff AKA Snoopy 01/23/18 10:44:07 PM #22:	Man, I didn't realize Sun and Moon were so beloved. SPOILERS Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon! Let's make our evil team a bunch of losers! Then we will shoehorn in that they failed early in life so you know... they... are losers? FEEL BAD FOR THEM MAN!" I dunno, I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story, but after how great B/W especially were in that category, Sun and Moon feels like a no stakes, who the fuck cares type of Pokemon story. --- https://i.imgtc.com/5AQormY.gif <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:894676500] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>Man, I didn't realize Sun and Moon were so beloved. SPOILERS Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon! Let's make our evil team a bunch of losers! Then we will shoehorn in that they failed early in life so you know... they... are losers? FEEL BAD FOR THEM MAN!" I dunno, I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story, but after how great B/W especially were in that category, Sun and Moon feels like a no stakes, who the fuck cares type of Pokemon story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mehmeh1 01/23/18 10:44:47 PM #23:	thisisboris2 posted... how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3 Single player is better than RS, but worse than E, though ORAS has some of the best features in the franchise (dexnav being an improved habitat list, super secret bases being very fun in general, soaring and the revamped mirage islands, etc) --- FC: 3840-6927-7945, have OR/Y/SM4SH/PSMD I'm a youtuber, here is my link: https://m.youtube.com/#/user/bigbangpegasusmaster.I play games <cite>mehmeh1 posted [p:894676558] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>thisisboris2 posted...</cite> <quote>how are alpha/omega anyway, i finished ultra moon recently, enjoyed it and nostalgia is tempting me to play gen 3</quote> Single player is better than RS, but worse than E, though ORAS has some of the best features in the franchise (dexnav being an improved habitat list, super secret bases being very fun in general, soaring and the revamped mirage islands, etc)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/23/18 11:12:59 PM #24:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Man, I didn't realize Sun and Moon were so beloved. SPOILERS Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon! Let's make our evil team a bunch of losers! Then we will shoehorn in that they failed early in life so you know... they... are losers? FEEL BAD FOR THEM MAN!" I dunno, I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story, but after how great B/W especially were in that category, Sun and Moon feels like a no stakes, who the fuck cares type of Pokemon story. Team Skull were not the real evil villains. I liked that they were more comedic and simpathetic. As for the story I loved the Aether plot but I wish it wasn't all told at one time. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894678373] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>Man, I didn't realize Sun and Moon were so beloved. SPOILERS Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon! Let's make our evil team a bunch of losers! Then we will shoehorn in that they failed early in life so you know... they... are losers? FEEL BAD FOR THEM MAN!" I dunno, I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story, but after how great B/W especially were in that category, Sun and Moon feels like a no stakes, who the fuck cares type of Pokemon story.</quote> Team Skull were not the real evil villains. I liked that they were more comedic and simpathetic. As for the story I loved the Aether plot but I wish it wasn't all told at one time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_cajun88 01/23/18 11:33:43 PM #25:	D. Every gen is good. --- http://i.imgur.com/OkvDFD3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/owvpCYR.jpg <cite>the_cajun88 posted [p:894679652] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>D. Every gen is good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 01/24/18 12:23:55 AM #26:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story Well, yeah. If you're playing for a story, there are tons of other RPGs you could play instead of Pokemon. <cite>Vertania posted [p:894682401] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>I suppose I shouldn't play Pokemon for the story</quote> Well, yeah. If you're playing for a story, there are tons of other RPGs you could play instead of Pokemon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 01/24/18 12:28:40 AM #27:	I actually really liked Sun and Moon. My grips with it were far outweighed by the cool stuff about it. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:894682645] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I actually really liked Sun and Moon. My grips with it were far outweighed by the cool stuff about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 01/24/18 3:24:41 AM #28:	I'm currently playing Ultra Moon, it's good so far I like how I actually have to put effort into battles again. XY had battles that were too easy. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. #desisoyboy <cite>teepan95 posted [p:894688890] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>I'm currently playing Ultra Moon, it's good so far I like how I actually have to put effort into battles again. XY had battles that were too easy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 01/24/18 3:32:11 AM #29:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon! It's true, but it's sort of what I expect from a Pokemon game. Not a single one has had some sort of finely crafted narrative. The plot is largely an excuse to make a world work that honestly makes no sense to begin with. Based on that, I sort of have to judge it solely on the gameplay, graphics, etc. That being said, I did feel the game took a little too much time holding hands and dragging you around some rather droll plot points. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:894689046] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote> Like, to me it felt like mechanically they made some nice changes, but overall the story was so luckluster and almost insulting. Basically it was, "Nothing has any stakes at all. Do challenges instead of Gym Battles! Oh WOW, there is this portal that has ULTRA BEA... oh wait, they're just more Legendary Pokemon. Let's have those Legendary Pokemon battle with other Legendary Pokemon!</quote> It's true, but it's sort of what I expect from a Pokemon game. Not a single one has had some sort of finely crafted narrative. The plot is largely an excuse to make a world work that honestly makes no sense to begin with. Based on that, I sort of have to judge it solely on the gameplay, graphics, etc. That being said, I did feel the game took a little too much time holding hands and dragging you around some rather droll plot points.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 01/24/18 3:33:20 AM #30:	big time C --- http://i.imgur.com/5UL2v5u.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:894689065] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>big time C</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nightmare_Luna 01/24/18 3:38:02 AM #31:	C X/Y and ORAS were both dumpster fire S/M was decent but eh --- "That's not a character, that's a set of bondage gear that can cast Ice 2." Vento Aureo 469 <cite>Nightmare_Luna posted [p:894689148] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>C X/Y and ORAS were both dumpster fire S/M was decent but eh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Offworlder1 01/24/18 5:38:55 PM #32:	Deny, someone always says some bs like this everytime a new gen, remake, or game comes out. Pokemon is still fun. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:894726534] in C/D - Poke... [t:76235660]...</cite> <quote>Deny, someone always says some bs like this everytime a new gen, remake, or game comes out. Pokemon is still fun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > C/D - Pokemon B/W2 was the last really good mainline Pokemon game.