Poll of the Day > another day in america without a gun violence issue

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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 2:20:19 PM
#102:


Troll_Police_ posted...
doesnt matter if knives kill 100000 people a year, so long as they happen one at a time?

thats pretty fucking dispassionate jen.

That's how bleeding hearts work, it's not about fixing the most damaging issue, it's about fixing the most impactful issue.
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SunWuKung420
01/24/18 2:24:45 PM
#103:


Lol, that guy schmen. He's trying to act all high and mighty. We all know including him, that if him and his wife didn't suffer from MS, that 15% he donated would have stayed in his pocket.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 2:26:00 PM
#104:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
doesnt matter if knives kill 100000 people a year, so long as they happen one at a time?

thats pretty fucking dispassionate jen.

That's how bleeding hearts work, it's not about fixing the most damaging issue, it's about fixing the most impactful issue.


yeah. its about fixing the issue that makes the best headline.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 2:28:09 PM
#105:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Lol, that guy schmen. He's trying to act all high and mighty. We all know including him, that if him and his wife didn't suffer from MS, that 15% he donated would have stayed in his pocket.


bro, i got diagnosed long before she did, and prior to MY diagnosis the full 15% went to the denver dumb friends league as opposed to the 50/50 split i do now
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FakeAccount3000
01/24/18 2:32:31 PM
#106:


What's a dumb friends league?
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 2:33:55 PM
#107:


FakeAccount3000 posted...
What's a dumb friends league?


an animal shelter
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FakeAccount3000
01/24/18 2:36:02 PM
#108:


Is that the name of it or your personal interpretation?
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Rockies
01/24/18 2:37:47 PM
#109:


whataboutism
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darkknight109
01/24/18 2:38:49 PM
#110:


RedPixel posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Gun laws in Germany were pretty much at their loosest under the Nazi regime.

No... No they weren't, my friend.

Yes, they were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Gun_regulation_of_the_Third_Reich

The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

-Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.
-The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.
-Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.
-Less classes of user were exempt from the requirement to hold an acquisition permit; holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]
-Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.


Seriously, do your homework. This sort of info is not hard to find out, especially when it's been pointed out to you.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 2:39:45 PM
#111:


Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 2:40:25 PM
#112:


Troll_Police_ posted...
also, guns weren't SOLEY designed to kill people bro


i didn't say "people" i said they're designed to kill.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 2:40:37 PM
#113:


FakeAccount3000 posted...
Is that the name of it or your personal interpretation?


What the do you mean? It's an animal shelter named "The Denver Dumb Friends League"

Is it the word dumb you're taking issue with here? They are referring to animals inability to talk.
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 2:41:36 PM
#114:


Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
also, guns weren't SOLEY designed to kill people bro


i didn't say "people" i said they're designed to kill.

So were knives.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 2:41:59 PM
#115:


Jen0125 posted...
Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.


You're not though. It's fake compassion. You care when it suits your agenda, and when it doesn't you don't. Pretty fucking deplorable.
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 2:42:32 PM
#116:


hahahahahahahahahaha bleeding hearts that know nothing about how the world actually works

Bernie Sanders is my hero!!!!
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Doctor Foxx
01/24/18 2:43:53 PM
#117:


Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.


You're not though. It's fake compassion. You care when it suits your agenda, and when it doesn't you don't. Pretty fucking deplorable.

Like being in favor of donating to very specific niche charities while being opposed to taxes helping everyone in need that may not be as appealing. Right?
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darkknight109
01/24/18 2:43:59 PM
#118:


So... how do you do this, Jen? I think you've managed to trigger every nutjob on the board with this topic.

Do you have a superpower or something?

C'mon, share your secrets!
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Jen0125
01/24/18 2:44:21 PM
#119:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
also, guns weren't SOLEY designed to kill people bro


i didn't say "people" i said they're designed to kill.

So were knives.


Pretty sure knives were invented as tools but okay.

Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.


You're not though. It's fake compassion. You care when it suits your agenda, and when it doesn't you don't. Pretty fucking deplorable.


You can keep trying to bait me but it's not going to work. You keep making things up and I'm not falling for your trolling.
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 2:49:04 PM
#120:


Doctor Foxx posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.


You're not though. It's fake compassion. You care when it suits your agenda, and when it doesn't you don't. Pretty fucking deplorable.

Like being in favor of donating to very specific niche charities while being opposed to taxes helping everyone in need that may not be as appealing. Right?

One cent for everybody or a hundred dollars for one, which do you think is more productive?

Jen0125 posted...
Pretty sure knives were invented as tools but okay.

A tool to hunt. Of which a firearm is.
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FakeAccount3000
01/24/18 2:49:43 PM
#121:


Noop_Noop posted...
FakeAccount3000 posted...
Is that the name of it or your personal interpretation?


What the do you mean? It's an animal shelter named "The Denver Dumb Friends League"

Is it the word dumb you're taking issue with here? They are referring to animals inability to talk.


I just thought it was a really odd name and still do.
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Blighboy
01/24/18 2:51:26 PM
#122:


Jen0125 posted...
i didn't say "people" i said they're designed to kill.

Tanks are designed as a means of travel

Flamethrowers are designed to cook meat
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 2:51:40 PM
#123:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
also, guns weren't SOLEY designed to kill people bro


i didn't say "people" i said they're designed to kill.

So were knives.


Pretty sure knives were invented as tools but okay.

Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Rockies posted...
whataboutism


seriously. lmao

and it takes a really crazy person to try to spin strict gun laws as being not compassionate.


You're not though. It's fake compassion. You care when it suits your agenda, and when it doesn't you don't. Pretty fucking deplorable.


You can keep trying to bait me but it's not going to work. You keep making things up and I'm not falling for your trolling.


Making it up? Baiting? You flat out told me it mattered more when a crowd of people die than when it happens one at a time. 1600 singular deaths don't matter in the face of a hundred dying in a group. You baited your fucking self which is easy to do when you look at the argument from such a deluded point of view.

You're a hypocrite Jen. That's the point I've been making the whole time. You can ignore it and go on being a hypocrite, or look at yourself and maybe become a better person.
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 2:52:07 PM
#124:


>im not falling for your trolling

>keeps replying

hyukhyukhyuk
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Firewood18
01/24/18 2:54:33 PM
#125:


Trolls being as funny as squished kittens about now.
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FakeAccount3000
01/24/18 2:56:09 PM
#126:


Were knives originally designed to hunt AKA kill or were they originally designed to skin and prepare the animal after being killed with a larger weapon like a spear or a bow and arrow? I think we'd need to talk to some kind of anthropologist or something to sort this one out.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 2:59:16 PM
#127:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
A tool to hunt. Of which a firearm is.


and a tool to make other things? or just cut things? like is this for real right now?

Noop_Noop posted...

Making it up? Baiting? You flat out told me it mattered more when a crowd of people die than when it happens one at a time. 1600 singular deaths don't matter in the face of a hundred dying in a group. You baited your fucking self which is easy to do when you look at the argument from such a deluded point of view.

You're a hypocrite Jen. That's the point I've been making the whole time. You can ignore it and go on being a hypocrite, or look at yourself and maybe become a better person.


i didn't say it "mattered more" you keep putting words in my mouth. lmao. i said that a knife is a multipurpose tool and using the "lawls ban knives they kill" argument is off base.
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darkknight109
01/24/18 2:59:28 PM
#128:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
One cent for everybody or a hundred dollars for one, which do you think is more productive?

One cent for everybody, because that's ~$70 million dollars.
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 3:00:02 PM
#129:


guns are a multipurpose tool

I open my doors all the time with muh shotgun
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SunWuKung420
01/24/18 3:04:08 PM
#130:


Troll_Police_ posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Lol, that guy schmen. He's trying to act all high and mighty. We all know including him, that if him and his wife didn't suffer from MS, that 15% he donated would have stayed in his pocket.


bro, i got diagnosed long before she did, and prior to MY diagnosis the full 15% went to the denver dumb friends league as opposed to the 50/50 split i do now


So before the MS, none of your charity actually benefited humans and now you're only contributing to the MS society because it could directly benefit you. You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people, just the one that benefits you.
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 3:07:27 PM
#131:


Jen0125 posted...
and a tool to make other things? or just cut things? like is this for real right now?

And firearms are a tool for sport? Or to just penetrate things?

You don't make people kill less by oppressing them, you merely change the battlefield.

darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
One cent for everybody or a hundred dollars for one, which do you think is more productive?

One cent for everybody, because that's ~$70 million dollars.

Even with your obvious intent to misconstrue, half those people wouldn't even bother spending one cent and the rest would not act any differently from usual. You could have one million tonnes of gold, but if it's particulate spread throughout the atlantic, it's not worth shit.
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 3:08:19 PM
#132:


SunWuKung420 posted...
You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people

What charity helps all people?
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Jen0125
01/24/18 3:08:47 PM
#133:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
And firearms are a tool for sport? Or to just penetrate things?


who the fuck penetrates something with a gun? if you're talking about a bayonet that's not a gun.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 3:09:14 PM
#134:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people

What charity helps all people?


charities that benefit the environment
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 3:11:08 PM
#135:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Lol, that guy schmen. He's trying to act all high and mighty. We all know including him, that if him and his wife didn't suffer from MS, that 15% he donated would have stayed in his pocket.


bro, i got diagnosed long before she did, and prior to MY diagnosis the full 15% went to the denver dumb friends league as opposed to the 50/50 split i do now


So before the MS, none of your charity actually benefited humans and now you're only contributing to the MS society because it could directly benefit you. You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people, just the one that benefits you.

are you seriously trying to give a dude shit for having MS because they disagree with your gun control politics?
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 3:15:35 PM
#136:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people

What charity helps all people?


charities that benefit the environment

Doesn't help the aged.

Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
And firearms are a tool for sport? Or to just penetrate things?


who the fuck penetrates something with a gun? if you're talking about a bayonet that's not a gun.

A seef Ifric'n.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZobRfDEzU

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darkknight109
01/24/18 3:17:59 PM
#137:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Even with your obvious intent to misconstrue, half those people wouldn't even bother spending one cent and the rest would not act any differently from usual. You could have one million tonnes of gold, but if it's particulate spread throughout the atlantic, it's not worth shit.

Neither is $100 for one person, really.

(And half of all people spending their one cent is still $35 million dollars).

PaddysPub posted...
are you seriously trying to give a dude shit for having MS because they disagree with your gun control politics?

That's a pretty big stretch from what he actually said.
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Kyuubi4269
01/24/18 3:19:26 PM
#138:


darkknight109 posted...
Neither is $100 for one person, really.

Can by a Cinnamon Roll.
/checkmate
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SunWuKung420
01/24/18 3:39:32 PM
#139:


PaddysPub posted...
are you seriously trying to give a dude shit for having MS because they disagree with your gun control politics?


I've posted zero about my gun control politics. Read the topic before trolling helps. I've also not given him shit for having MS, he has my sympathy regarding that, but he's trying to act like some super charitable person when he isn't.
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Rockies
01/24/18 3:44:57 PM
#140:


A gun is not a weapon, Jen. It's a tool, like a butcher knife, or a harpoon, or... uh... uh... an alligator.
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PKMNsony
01/24/18 4:02:47 PM
#141:


This thread is great! One person deflecting and skirting around questions and their cheerleaders pretending they're doing a bang up job!
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:06:12 PM
#142:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
A tool to hunt. Of which a firearm is.


and a tool to make other things? or just cut things? like is this for real right now?

Noop_Noop posted...

Making it up? Baiting? You flat out told me it mattered more when a crowd of people die than when it happens one at a time. 1600 singular deaths don't matter in the face of a hundred dying in a group. You baited your fucking self which is easy to do when you look at the argument from such a deluded point of view.

You're a hypocrite Jen. That's the point I've been making the whole time. You can ignore it and go on being a hypocrite, or look at yourself and maybe become a better person.


i didn't say it "mattered more" you keep putting words in my mouth. lmao. i said that a knife is a multipurpose tool and using the "lawls ban knives they kill" argument is off base.


So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:10:11 PM
#143:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Lol, that guy schmen. He's trying to act all high and mighty. We all know including him, that if him and his wife didn't suffer from MS, that 15% he donated would have stayed in his pocket.


bro, i got diagnosed long before she did, and prior to MY diagnosis the full 15% went to the denver dumb friends league as opposed to the 50/50 split i do now


So before the MS, none of your charity actually benefited humans and now you're only contributing to the MS society because it could directly benefit you. You don't donate to human charities because they benefit all people, just the one that benefits you.


Bro, the benefits of my donations will for sure not be seen in my lifetime so I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

As for the rest of your post, do you just hate animals? Personally I feel more of a sense of responsibility for a domesticated animal that can't survive on its own than I do for people who typically suffer from their own poor decisions.

I'd also like to note since you mentioned environmental charities that I did FREE consultations at a recycling plant in China that directly lead to several thousand tons of e-waste staying out of landfills on a yearly basis bro. What are YOU doing for the environment? Frying chicken wings doesn't count.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:14:06 PM
#144:


Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:18:46 PM
#145:


Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.


K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.
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Rockies
01/24/18 6:19:04 PM
#146:


What does wanting people to not have guns have to do with being complacent about knife violence? They are different things, fuck off.

You're like those people who think they have a huge "gotcha" when they point out people who believe in climate change use electricity. We can't solve every problem at once, and we won't solve any if we discredit the people who think about them in smaller steps.
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Rockies
01/24/18 6:20:28 PM
#147:


Noop_Noop posted...
K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


It's been said and alluded to a million times in this topic that knives (and cars and whatever "whatabouts" you want to substitute) have more valid functional reasons to own than guns
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:30:54 PM
#148:


PKMNsony posted...
This thread is great! One person deflecting and skirting around questions and their cheerleaders pretending they're doing a bang up job!


No shit she is skirting. Instead of arguing she wants to Claim everyone is trying to bait or troll her because it's easier to play the victim than to lose
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:31:46 PM
#149:


Rockies posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


It's been said and alluded to a million times in this topic that knives (and cars and whatever "whatabouts" you want to substitute) have more valid functional reasons to own than guns


Right, but she literally just said that wasn't the case bro. You are saying those deaths are inconsequential because the weapon used can be used for other things.

Again. Disgusting.
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OhhhJa
01/24/18 6:36:21 PM
#150:


Rockies posted...
They are different things, f*** off.

Why do you always do stuff like this? It's completely unnecessary and seems disingenuous to me. You constructed a decent argument but that sticks out like a sore thumb
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:37:31 PM
#151:


Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.


K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


I've already said several times that knives are extremely multipurpose tools and don't exist solely to kill. And just because there's no weapon ban doesn't mean their deaths don't matter. You're the one who keeps saying that like you feel that way. People have been murdered with rolling pins meant for baking but they don't exist to be only weapons. That doesn't mean not banning rolling pins means their death didn't matter.
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