Poll of the Day > another day in america without a gun violence issue

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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:39:33 PM
#152:


Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.


K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


I've already said several times that knives are extremely multipurpose tools and don't exist solely to kill.


And I already said that you are writing off 1600 deaths as inconsequential because the instrument used has other purposes. You are heartless Jen.
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OhhhJa
01/24/18 6:43:35 PM
#153:


Anyway the problem in America isn't the guns. It's the culture which we've cultivated for centuries now. Taking away the guns doesn't solve the problem of Americans wanting to go to war and kill people to solve their problems. Lots of countries have a lot of armed citizens. If it were the guns, they would have these issues too. Taking away the guns won't change the war culture here
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 6:44:59 PM
#154:


lets make drugs illegal to keep them off the streets too, guys
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:45:15 PM
#155:


Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.


K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


I've already said several times that knives are extremely multipurpose tools and don't exist solely to kill.


And I already said that you are writing off 1600 deaths as inconsequential because the instrument used has other purposes. You are heartless Jen.


And you're off base and trolling so I'm not sure what else you want me to say.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:46:35 PM
#156:


OhhhJa posted...
Anyway the problem in America isn't the guns. It's the culture which we've cultivated for centuries now. Taking away the guns doesn't solve the problem of Americans wanting to go to war and kill people to solve their problems. Lots of countries have a lot of armed citizens. If it were the guns, they would have these issues too. Taking away the guns won't change the war culture here


This is true but I wonder what we could do to de-escalate that at this point? It seems like the longer we've been a country the more paranoid everyone has gotten and the government plays into that. It makes it impossible to get people to calm the hell down.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:47:09 PM
#157:


Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
So as long as it can be used for another purpose, those 1600 deaths are inconsequential. That's all it takes for you. Disgusting.


again this baiting is stupid because you're putting words in my mouth and i'm not going to fall for it.


K so then tell me what the difference is? If knives cost so many lives then why do we not need to ban them, but we do need to ban guns? You could have answered at any point in this topic if you had an answer, but I'm still waiting.


I've already said several times that knives are extremely multipurpose tools and don't exist solely to kill.


And I already said that you are writing off 1600 deaths as inconsequential because the instrument used has other purposes. You are heartless Jen.


And you're off base and trolling so I'm not sure what else you want me to say.


So you're just gonna play victim, like I said.

I can't respond to that so you must be a troll! I don't know what else to say!
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:48:03 PM
#158:


I've been responding to you this whole topic and answered every question you've had.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:49:14 PM
#159:


Saying 'waaaaahhhh you're just trying to troll/bait me!' is not answering a question, but nice try.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:49:42 PM
#160:


Okay maybe try reading the actual topic then and you'll see all the things I've actually said. But you have to stop trolling first probably to do that.
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Noop_Noop
01/24/18 6:52:17 PM
#161:


Jen0125 posted...
Okay maybe try reading the actual topic then and you'll see all the things I've actually said. But you have to stop trolling first probably to do that.


I've read the topic actually, but I'm guessing you haven't.

Let me guess though, I'm just trolling you again :(

What a big meany! Calling you out on your flagrant hypocrisy is just downright cruel!
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Jen0125
01/24/18 6:53:27 PM
#162:


Okay, schmen. You can keep going in your circle as much as you'd like.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 6:58:59 PM
#163:


every time she cant answer she says "youre just trolling"

proceeds to say im going in circles, when she has done nothing but

youre hopeless jen. im sorry. that hypocrisy is for life. nobody can make the change but you.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 7:01:24 PM
#164:


Please re-read all of my posts where I have answered any question you have asked me.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:03:11 PM
#165:


please reread all of your posts where you didnt
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GanonsSpirit
01/24/18 7:07:38 PM
#166:


Anything that can kill that isn't a gun is irrelevant in a gun control argument.
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Blighboy
01/24/18 7:11:54 PM
#167:


GanonsSpirit posted...
Anything that can kill that isn't a gun is irrelevant in a gun control argument.

Legit not sure if sarcasm
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Jen0125
01/24/18 7:12:49 PM
#168:


Blighboy posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
Anything that can kill that isn't a gun is irrelevant in a gun control argument.

Legit not sure if sarcasm


lmao
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:17:55 PM
#169:


GanonsSpirit posted...
Anything that can kill that isn't a gun is irrelevant in a gun control argument.


it absolutely is, because its the best and easiest way to break down the incredibly hypocritical viewpoints of the authoritarian left in a way that at least some of them can understand.
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Rockies
01/24/18 7:20:03 PM
#170:


Does Schmen ever not act like the biggest asshole? No wonder Ziggi likes him. Scratch that, even Ziggi knows how to not be an asshole sometimes.
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GanonsSpirit
01/24/18 7:22:22 PM
#171:


Troll_Police_ posted...
it absolutely is, because its the best and easiest way to break down the incredibly hypocritical viewpoints of the authoritarian left in a way that at least some of them can understand.

No, it's just a way for people without good arguments to ignore the argument at hand.
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dedbus
01/24/18 7:24:26 PM
#172:


I pretty sure they just bash peoples faces in with hammers in all these civilized nations with gun control laws.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:24:38 PM
#173:


Rockies posted...
Does Schmen ever not act like the biggest asshole? No wonder Ziggi likes him. Scratch that, even Ziggi knows how to not be an asshole sometimes.


better hurry up and call your representative. wouldnt want someone else's right to free speech to encroach on your nonexistent right to not be offended.

or you could use the ignore feature

or you could just continue to cry into your keyboard

it is your right to do as you want to do bro
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:27:03 PM
#174:


GanonsSpirit posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
it absolutely is, because its the best and easiest way to break down the incredibly hypocritical viewpoints of the authoritarian left in a way that at least some of them can understand.

No, it's just a way for people without good arguments to ignore the argument at hand.


in other words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA


you cant argue with it, so you want to pretend its not a part of the argument. ignoring shit doesnt make it disappear bro.
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Rockies
01/24/18 7:29:10 PM
#175:


Troll_Police_ posted...
better hurry up and call your representative. wouldnt want someone else's right to free speech to encroach on your nonexistent right to not be offended.


Was this supposed to be clever
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:35:47 PM
#176:


Rockies posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
better hurry up and call your representative. wouldnt want someone else's right to free speech to encroach on your nonexistent right to not be offended.


Was this supposed to be clever


nah, just pointing out that your jimmies are easily rustled. dont need to be clever to do that or to point it out since it is glaringly obvious
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Rockies
01/24/18 7:36:11 PM
#177:


PaddysPub posted...
lets make drugs illegal to keep them off the streets too, guys


Different thing. For one, people don't generally get addicted to guns and you can't grow/cook guns in your home.

Not that I'm saying Jen's ideas are at all practical, but the pro-gun people in here aren't making very compelling arguments either
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Blighboy
01/24/18 7:39:43 PM
#178:


Remember, if you get mad you lose

kek
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 7:52:31 PM
#179:


Blighboy posted...
Remember, if you get mad you lose

kek



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GanonsSpirit
01/24/18 8:04:15 PM
#180:


Troll_Police_ posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
it absolutely is, because its the best and easiest way to break down the incredibly hypocritical viewpoints of the authoritarian left in a way that at least some of them can understand.

No, it's just a way for people without good arguments to ignore the argument at hand.


in other words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA


you cant argue with it, so you want to pretend its not a part of the argument. ignoring shit doesnt make it disappear bro.

Sorry, remind me again what your idea for curbing the massive gun violence problem in the US is.
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OhhhJa
01/24/18 8:05:33 PM
#181:


There's also something else I'd like to address. These mass shooting incidents are increasing in frequency rapidly. If we looked at a graph, it would look like a 5 degree slope suddenly changing into a cliff in the past 5 years. What do you think is causing this?
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Jen0125
01/24/18 8:08:32 PM
#182:


i feel like schmen is the only one here with his jimmies rustled lol
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Jen0125
01/24/18 8:13:05 PM
#183:


OhhhJa posted...
There's also something else I'd like to address. These mass shooting incidents are increasing in frequency rapidly. If we looked at a graph, it would look like a 5 degree slope suddenly changing into a cliff in the past 5 years. What do you think is causing this?


i think the political climate over the past 20 years has been contributing to it. but also the 24 hour news cycle which doesn't tell facts is always blasting you about how HORRIBLE life is, how CRIME ridden the US is and how there's NOTHING we can do to stop it practically.
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Rockies
01/24/18 8:13:42 PM
#184:


Jen0125 posted...
i feel like schmen is the only one here with his jimmies rustled lol


I don't know, but most people who say that in internet arguments tend to not be worth taking seriously either way. It's weird how people want to act like assholes, then when they get called out on it they're afraid to face down the possibility that they're being an asshole.
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 8:14:13 PM
#185:


GanonsSpirit posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
GanonsSpirit posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
it absolutely is, because its the best and easiest way to break down the incredibly hypocritical viewpoints of the authoritarian left in a way that at least some of them can understand.

No, it's just a way for people without good arguments to ignore the argument at hand.


in other words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx32b5igLwA


you cant argue with it, so you want to pretend its not a part of the argument. ignoring shit doesnt make it disappear bro.

Sorry, remind me again what your idea for curbing the massive gun violence problem in the US is.


how about education and training like they do in countries where the gun ownership per capita is even higher than ours?

jesus fucking christ, you people act like the only way to gain security is to give up liberty. it is stunning.

you all are SOOOOOO fast to point to scandanavia when it comes to shit like socializing everything because that fits your agenda, but then it comes to the issue of gun control and you just put your blinders on and say "NO WE GOTTA BAN EM! CNN TOLD ME SO!"

OhhhJa posted...
There's also something else I'd like to address. These mass shooting incidents are increasing in frequency rapidly. If we looked at a graph, it would look like a 5 degree slope suddenly changing into a cliff in the past 5 years. What do you think is causing this?


idk, probably a growing discontent among the populace. people feel like their freedoms are being infringed upon, and they just look for shit to lash out at.

could be that, could be something else. its hard to rationalize crazy, and whether you see it as fortunate or unfortunate you are free to be as crazy as you want to be.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 8:14:25 PM
#186:


Rockies posted...
Jen0125 posted...
i feel like schmen is the only one here with his jimmies rustled lol


I don't know, but most people who say that in internet arguments tend to not be worth taking seriously either way. It's weird how people want to act like assholes, then when they get called out on it they're afraid to face down the possibility that they're being an asshole.


i don't take him seriously anyways because of his personal beliefs and the way he behaves.
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Jen0125
01/24/18 8:15:16 PM
#187:


Troll_Police_ posted...
how about education and training like they do in countries where the gun ownership per capita is even higher than ours?


which countries are those?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
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Rockies
01/24/18 8:15:46 PM
#188:


Troll_Police_ posted...
people feel like their freedoms are being infringed upon,


People are angry they have to spend part of their paycheck on roads and infrastructure instead of dogs
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 8:18:23 PM
#189:


Rockies posted...
Jen0125 posted...
i feel like schmen is the only one here with his jimmies rustled lol


I don't know, but most people who say that in internet arguments tend to not be worth taking seriously either way. It's weird how people want to act like assholes, then when they get called out on it they're afraid to face down the possibility that they're being an asshole.


bro, never once on this board have i claimed to be anything other than a troll or an asshole.

none of that makes the shit i spout any more or less true.

the fact that i might say it to get a rise out of someone doesnt make it any more or less valid

you are not hurting my feelings, you are not damaging my ego.

you cant to shoot me through a hole that i self inflicted and expect it to hurt. I'm just gonna say "you missed AGAIN dummy!"
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RCtheWSBC
01/24/18 8:19:31 PM
#190:


Troll_Police_ posted...
none of that makes the shit i spout any more or less true.

except for that statement that was shown to be not true in post 187
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PaddysPub
01/24/18 8:21:13 PM
#191:


hahahahaha chewy is so fucking butthurt lmao xD hahaha
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SunWuKung420
01/24/18 8:21:27 PM
#192:


Schmen, I love animals. Don't try to act like your 15% donation, used as a tax write off is anything more than that. Your contributions to an animal shelter does not make you a humanitarian or some bastion of social change and charity. It just makes you a smart business owner. Switching to 50/50 with MS is just smart since you could and most likely will benefit from the services they provide MS patients.
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Rockies
01/24/18 8:22:09 PM
#193:


Troll_Police_ posted...
none of that makes the shit i spout any more or less true.


I mean, yeah, it kind of does. It suggests that you don't care how disingenuous and nonsensical your arguments are as long as they get a reaction out of people. I doubt you actually believe insane logic leaps like that Jen is a hypocrite about knife deaths for wanting there to be fewer guns
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Troll_Police_
01/24/18 8:24:29 PM
#194:


Rockies posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
people feel like their freedoms are being infringed upon,


People are angry they have to spend part of their paycheck on roads and infrastructure instead of dogs


i have no issue with spending a part of my paycheck on roads and infrastructure though... i never said that.

i also haven't gone out there and shot shit up because as i said, those people are crazy. do you want to understand what is driving them and fix the problem? or do you just want to close your eyes and cry thinking they will disappear?
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Jen0125
01/24/18 8:26:05 PM
#195:


he's gonna ignore my link that shows he was wrong isn't he
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Doctor Foxx
01/24/18 8:28:25 PM
#196:


Jen0125 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
how about education and training like they do in countries where the gun ownership per capita is even higher than ours?


which countries are those?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

none of them lol

and for the scandinavian countries that do own guns, they are treated very differently by law and in culture

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-06-16/what-can-us-learn-norways-gun-laws

A tool you are trained to use and learn to respect vs. the clusterfuck gun worshipping situation that the US is

Yes, theres a high percentage of gun ownership in Norway," she says, "but those guns are used mainly one week in the year during the hunting of elk season ... the rest of the year its locked down and stored.

Even US and Norwegian law enforcement have different approaches to firearms.

The police has not been armed in Norway, Seierstad says. People in the US could say, Well, isnt that scary? Well when the police is not armed, the drug dealer is not armed, the criminals are not armed, because no one is armed.


Part of what makes their gun ownership work there is the tight regulation and restriction of gun use and ownership

you'll also notice that more handguns = more homicide and suicide. Those countries own hunting rifles and use them to hunt. They do not open or concealed carry handguns.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380933/

For both suicide and homicide, the elevated relative risks persisted for more than 5 years after the purchase. CONCLUSIONS: Legal purchase of a handgun appears to be associated with a long-lasting increased risk of violent death.

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GanonsSpirit
01/24/18 8:30:04 PM
#197:


Troll_Police_ posted...
jesus fucking christ, you people act like the only way to gain security is to give up liberty. it is stunning.

you all are SOOOOOO fast to point to scandanavia when it comes to shit like socializing everything because that fits your agenda, but then it comes to the issue of gun control and you just put your blinders on and say "NO WE GOTTA BAN EM! CNN TOLD ME SO!"

Don't blow a gasket, bud. My opinions on gun control don't line up with any of that.
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JGtrance88
01/24/18 8:43:26 PM
#198:


Jen0125 posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/us/kentucky-high-school-shooting/index.html

lol just kidding


More proof liberals dont care about anyone, they just want to get their way.

Pretty fun stuff right!
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OhhhJa
01/24/18 9:55:46 PM
#199:


Troll_Police_ posted...

idk, probably a growing discontent among the populace. people feel like their freedoms are being infringed upon, and they just look for s*** to lash out at.

I think this is a lot of it but I'd expand upon that and say that the time we currently live in is increasingly infringing on people's privacy. One of the drawbacks of social media taking over daily life
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