Current Events > 39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.

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Alois_Hunter
01/18/18 1:00:44 AM
#204:


KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.
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ChromaticAngel
01/18/18 1:01:30 AM
#205:


Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.
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Alois_Hunter
01/18/18 1:07:04 AM
#206:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.

I haven't been moderated.
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ChromaticAngel
01/18/18 1:10:59 AM
#207:


Alois_Hunter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.

I haven't been moderated.

Look dude.

Your account is from January 2018.

Adolf Hitler's father is "Alois Hitler" and your name is "Alois Hunter"

You are not fooling fucking anybody.
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Alois_Hunter
01/18/18 1:44:41 AM
#208:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.

I haven't been moderated.

Look dude.

Your account is from January 2018.

Adolf Hitler's father is "Alois Hitler" and your name is "Alois Hunter"

You are not fooling fucking anybody.


Alois is a common name.

I didn't know Hitler's dad's name was Alois. I don't study Hitler, and I didn't know we were attributing a son's crimes to his father now.
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Kirby
01/18/18 1:51:46 AM
#209:


Fair, next
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thronedfire2
01/18/18 2:18:34 AM
#210:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.

I haven't been moderated.

Look dude.

Your account is from January 2018.

Adolf Hitler's father is "Alois Hitler" and your name is "Alois Hunter"

You are not fooling fucking anybody.


its probably that same tool who had accounts like zyklon b and lugenpresse or whatever that are both banned now
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Knowledge_King
01/18/18 9:35:02 AM
#211:


Don't see a problem. Should've became a citizen in the 30 years he was here. Who cares if it's 'hard'. If you want to stay, you have to follow the rules. That's basics.
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Balrog0
01/18/18 11:34:41 AM
#212:


Knowledge_King posted...
Don't see a problem.


I don't think you're trying very hard
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BillWardsPants
01/18/18 4:41:43 PM
#213:


Hes getting deported because hes a drug trafficker.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf
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s0nicfan
01/18/18 4:44:04 PM
#214:


BillWardsPants posted...
Hes getting deported because hes a drug trafficker.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf


And THERE'S the missing information I figured was omitted from this story.
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BillWardsPants
01/18/18 5:13:06 PM
#215:


s0nicfan posted...
BillWardsPants posted...
Hes getting deported because hes a drug trafficker.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf


And THERE'S the missing information I figured was omitted from this story.


And before anyone claims, But Jorge Garcia is a common name, and the document says Garcia became a lawful permanent resident of the United States in 1995., that just means he got his green card, could legally work and get a drivers licence. Garcia would have been 16-17 in 1995.
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thronedfire2
01/18/18 6:29:36 PM
#216:


I don't think getting caught with less than an ounce of pot makes you a drug trafficker. That doesn't even make you a drug dealer
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BillWardsPants
01/18/18 6:45:16 PM
#217:


thronedfire2 posted...
I don't think getting caught with less than an ounce of pot makes you a drug trafficker. That doesn't even make you a drug dealer


From the court document:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) began removal proceedings against him in 2005, alleging that he was removable because, among other things, he was an alien believed to be an illicit trafficker in a controlled substance and an alien who had been convicted of a controlled-substance offense under 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2)(C) and 1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(II), respectively.

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In July 2008, the immigration judge (IJ) concluded that Garcia should be denied both of these forms of relief. A 1182(h) waiver for drug offenses is available only for a single offense of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marihuana.

How many grams in an ounce?
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Muflaggin
01/18/18 6:48:09 PM
#218:


If he's an illegal fair game. Next.
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thronedfire2
01/18/18 6:53:10 PM
#219:


BillWardsPants posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I don't think getting caught with less than an ounce of pot makes you a drug trafficker. That doesn't even make you a drug dealer


From the court document:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) began removal proceedings against him in 2005, alleging that he was removable because, among other things, he was an alien believed to be an illicit trafficker in a controlled substance and an alien who had been convicted of a controlled-substance offense under 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2)(C) and 1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(II), respectively.

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In July 2008, the immigration judge (IJ) concluded that Garcia should be denied both of these forms of relief. A 1182(h) waiver for drug offenses is available only for a single offense of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marihuana.

How many grams in an ounce?


28

He had less than an ounce or he would have been charged with a felony, not just fined and released

Edit: I guess they charged him with a felony for intent to distribute but he plead guilty to possession so they dropped the felony charge? That must still allow them to deny his petition.
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BillWardsPants
01/18/18 7:32:38 PM
#220:


thronedfire2 posted...
BillWardsPants posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
I don't think getting caught with less than an ounce of pot makes you a drug trafficker. That doesn't even make you a drug dealer


From the court document:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) began removal proceedings against him in 2005, alleging that he was removable because, among other things, he was an alien believed to be an illicit trafficker in a controlled substance and an alien who had been convicted of a controlled-substance offense under 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2)(C) and 1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(II), respectively.

...

In July 2008, the immigration judge (IJ) concluded that Garcia should be denied both of these forms of relief. A 1182(h) waiver for drug offenses is available only for a single offense of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marihuana.

How many grams in an ounce?


28

He had less than an ounce or he would have been charged with a felony, not just fined and released

Edit: I guess they charged him with a felony for intent to distribute but he plead guilty to possession so they dropped the felony charge? That must still allow them to deny his petition.


It says A 1182(h) waiver for drug offenses is available only for a single offense of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marihuana., and thats why he was denied a form of relief. The exact amount isnt mentioned, but you can be sure it was over an ounce.
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CEs_EFG
01/18/18 10:05:26 PM
#221:


ChromaticAngel posted...

It's a year to get a green card. The green card can be revoked and you can get deported if you commit a crime and the judge is having a bad day. The green card, if you don't know what that is, is basically a visa with no expiration date. You're not a citizen if you have one, you just get to "visit" here forever or until you are deported or extradited.

Actually becoming a citizen looks like this:


right, if the man in OP had a green card he wouldn't have gotten deported. He's married to a citizen so it would've taken like 6 months

Garcia was brought to the country with an undocumented relative when he was 10 years old, according to the Detroit Free Press. He had faced a removal order from immigration courts since 2009, but his deportation was stayed during the Obama administration as his family looked for ways to get him legal status. Under President Trump, that was no longer an option.

legal status is a green card
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BillWardsPants
01/18/18 11:37:07 PM
#222:


CEs_EFG posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...

It's a year to get a green card. The green card can be revoked and you can get deported if you commit a crime and the judge is having a bad day. The green card, if you don't know what that is, is basically a visa with no expiration date. You're not a citizen if you have one, you just get to "visit" here forever or until you are deported or extradited.

Actually becoming a citizen looks like this:


right, if the man in OP had a green card he wouldn't have gotten deported. He's married to a citizen so it would've taken like 6 months

Garcia was brought to the country with an undocumented relative when he was 10 years old, according to the Detroit Free Press. He had faced a removal order from immigration courts since 2009, but his deportation was stayed during the Obama administration as his family looked for ways to get him legal status. Under President Trump, that was no longer an option.

legal status is a green card


He already had a green card.

Look at this story, from 2014:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2014/11/20/michigan-undocumented-immigrants-obama-order/19304089/

"I'm kind of excited, but I don't know how that's going to work for me," said Jorge Garcia, 35, a Lincoln Park landscaper who could qualify under Obama's order. "We don't want to get our hopes up too much."

Married with two children, Jorge Garcia was brought to the U.S. from Mexico when was 10 years old by his aunt. His parents had arrived earlier. Garcia was able to get a driver's license, but he and his parents are living in the U.S. illegally. He's been ordered deported twice.

He would have needed a green card to get a drivers license. Hes been ordered to be deported twice, because hes a drug trafficker, as I already pointed out a few posts above.
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Rika_Furude
01/19/18 12:15:38 AM
#223:


So whats wrong with deporting illegal aliens again?
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TheGrindery
01/19/18 12:41:17 AM
#224:


DeanAuryn posted...
BlackHorse6969 posted...
ey. he enjoyed 30 years of American life for free as an illegal. that's more fulfilling than most illegals can enjoy. he has no reason to complain or whine. i hope he can start a new family in mexico.

adios amigo


I dont understand why his family didnt go with him. Some wife, son and daughter they turned out to be.

Lol
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MrBobGray
01/19/18 12:43:21 AM
#225:


Alois_Hunter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Alois_Hunter posted...
KILBOTz posted...
yeah but hes an illegal!

exactly, he shouldn't have been here to begin with. Deporting illegals doesn't mean making exceptions for those who've broken the law for decades.

Says guy who complains about how he gets moderated when other people get away with making the same posts.

I haven't been moderated.

Look dude.

Your account is from January 2018.

Adolf Hitler's father is "Alois Hitler" and your name is "Alois Hunter"

You are not fooling fucking anybody.


Alois is a common name.

I didn't know Hitler's dad's name was Alois. I don't study Hitler, and I didn't know we were attributing a son's crimes to his father now.


Alois is not a common name...
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iClockwork
01/19/18 12:45:47 AM
#226:


MrBobGray posted...
Alois is not a common name...

"Only American names can be common"
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Unquestionable
01/19/18 12:45:52 AM
#227:


CEs_EFG posted...
He's married to a citizen so it would've taken like 6 months


Fuck no. Look at the damn chart someone posted. I know someone who has been married 2 years and actively working on citizenship and it's not something that they just hand out.
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GuyCarlPeterson
01/19/18 12:51:47 AM
#228:


Didn't Trump say he would leave DACA alone if Dems agree to fund the wall?
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Mal_Fet
01/19/18 12:57:43 AM
#229:


GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Didn't Trump say he would leave DACA alone if Dems agree to fund the wall?

Guy was too old to qualify for DACA
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GuyCarlPeterson
01/19/18 1:13:05 AM
#230:


Mal_Fet posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Didn't Trump say he would leave DACA alone if Dems agree to fund the wall?

Guy was too old to qualify for DACA

Then why was he saying he wanted to wait and see what happened with DACA?
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Mal_Fet
01/19/18 1:23:16 AM
#231:


GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Didn't Trump say he would leave DACA alone if Dems agree to fund the wall?

Guy was too old to qualify for DACA

Then why was he saying he wanted to wait and see what happened with DACA?

I dunno, I don't think most people who support DACA know what is really does.
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TheVipaGTS
01/19/18 1:26:09 AM
#232:


The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

fuck you
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Mal_Fet
01/19/18 1:28:13 AM
#233:


TheVipaGTS posted...
The Admiral posted...
Why couldn't be find a legal means to stay if he had been looking for 9 years?

fuck you

"How dare you ask why someone didn't try to immigrate legally when they had every opportunity to"
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TheVipaGTS
01/19/18 1:30:14 AM
#234:


Mal_Fet posted...


fuck you too.
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Mal_Fet
01/19/18 1:32:06 AM
#235:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Mal_Fet posted...


fuck you too.

No need to get triggered, bro. It's not like this issue was sprung all this guy all of a sudden; immigration law has been basically the same for quite a long time. He has no excuse.
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MabusIncarnate
01/19/18 1:35:10 AM
#236:


Let's just say fuck law, and build a society around compassion and feelings. That would work out well. Let's just pick and choose what illegal stuff is and isn't relevant. Then we can be like, this is against the law, but it hurts my feelings, so it's really okay.

That's the world I want to live in.
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TheGrindery
01/19/18 1:37:06 AM
#237:


TheVipaPMS
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iClockwork
01/19/18 1:56:55 AM
#238:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Let's just say fuck law, and build a society around compassion and feelings. That would work out well. Let's just pick and choose what illegal stuff is and isn't relevant. Then we can be like, this is against the law, but it hurts my feelings, so it's really okay.

nobody is saying fuck the law. The argument is that at this point in the mans life the justice served is inhumane compared to the crime committed.
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Foppe
01/19/18 1:58:24 AM
#239:


He probably paid more tax than Trump, so it would look bad if he stayed.
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creativerealms
01/19/18 2:00:28 AM
#240:


I wonder why he never took a test to become a citizen? I'm sure in thirty years he must have known about them and given the opertunity.
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creativerealms
01/19/18 2:04:50 AM
#241:


Mal_Fet posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
Didn't Trump say he would leave DACA alone if Dems agree to fund the wall?

Guy was too old to qualify for DACA

Then why was he saying he wanted to wait and see what happened with DACA?

I dunno, I don't think most people who support DACA know what is really does.

He wasn't too old for DACA. However maybe he didn't qualify. I mean the people covered by DACA were people with high school degrees, ether working full time jobs or continuing their education with no criminal record.

Oh Trump was never going to keep DACA and he knew the Dems would never agree to his abomination of a wall.
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OctilIery
01/19/18 3:34:52 AM
#242:


Mal_Fet posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Mal_Fet posted...


fuck you too.

No need to get triggered, bro. It's not like this issue was sprung all this guy all of a sudden; immigration law has been basically the same for quite a long time. He has no excuse.

Other than having no real option for legal immigration, of course. For him to become a legal resident he'd have to leave the country and abandon his life completely. Not really feasible.
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TheGrindery
01/19/18 9:11:20 AM
#243:


This is almost as sad as finding out Mallow isn't a tadpole.
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CEs_EFG
01/19/18 2:23:14 PM
#244:


Unquestionable posted...
CEs_EFG posted...
He's married to a citizen so it would've taken like 6 months


Fuck no. Look at the damn chart someone posted. I know someone who has been married 2 years and actively working on citizenship and it's not something that they just hand out.


That's interesting I didn't know you could go right to citizenship that was sarcasm

That's a bunch of bullshit since I know a few people who have done it in less than a year.

Also I don't think you understand the difference of a green card and citizenship
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Sativa_Rose
01/19/18 2:24:33 PM
#245:


This just goes to show that we need a path to citizenship
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CEs_EFG
01/19/18 2:30:48 PM
#246:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Actually becoming a citizen looks like this:



Also it's kind of funny that in the infographic that guys situation is the easiest one and the quickest lmao
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Alois_Hunter
01/19/18 2:32:38 PM
#247:


Sativa_Rose posted...
This just goes to show that we need a path to citizenship

we have one already...
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MarioBro88
01/19/18 2:40:18 PM
#248:


TheGrindery posted...
This is almost as sad as finding out Mallow isn't a tadpole.

I'm currently replaying Mario RPG and this made me bust a gut.
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