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FigureOfSpeech
01/15/18 11:53:50 PM
#201:


Don't panic, Scrooge, but you're about to crash! I'm J.P. Morgan, the ghost of rich dudes past, who's properly rockin' the monopoly mustache! Yo, I own the railroad, I run these tracks!
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CableZL
01/15/18 11:54:36 PM
#202:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
Don't panic, Scrooge, but you're about to crash! I'm J.P. Morgan, the ghost of rich dudes past, whose properly rockin' the monopoly mustache! Yo, I own the railroad, I run these tracks!


Should I listen to these rhymes in silence or beatbox
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FigureOfSpeech
01/15/18 11:56:07 PM
#203:


CableZL posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Don't panic, Scrooge, but you're about to crash! I'm J.P. Morgan, the ghost of rich dudes past, whose properly rockin' the monopoly mustache! Yo, I own the railroad, I run these tracks!


Should I listen to these rhymes in silence or beatbox


ERB S03E06. It's a good one. Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge. "A Christmas Carol" themed.
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CableZL
01/16/18 12:01:35 AM
#204:


FigureOfSpeech posted...
CableZL posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Don't panic, Scrooge, but you're about to crash! I'm J.P. Morgan, the ghost of rich dudes past, whose properly rockin' the monopoly mustache! Yo, I own the railroad, I run these tracks!


Should I listen to these rhymes in silence or beatbox


ERB S03E06. It's a good one. Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge. "A Christmas Carol" themed.

I completely forgot about ERB.
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_Near_
01/16/18 12:05:25 AM
#205:


Mal_Fet posted...

It is. Almost all of fascism's original thinkers and writers were Marxists. They viewed it as socialism perfected.


yeah, every revolutionary was a marxist, same with Mussolini. until he literally deemed it as a failure, embraced bermensch ideals and said that egalitarianism was wrong.

do you even know what the fuck you're talking about half the time
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FigureOfSpeech
01/16/18 12:14:39 AM
#206:


CableZL posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
CableZL posted...
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Don't panic, Scrooge, but you're about to crash! I'm J.P. Morgan, the ghost of rich dudes past, whose properly rockin' the monopoly mustache! Yo, I own the railroad, I run these tracks!


Should I listen to these rhymes in silence or beatbox


ERB S03E06. It's a good one. Trump vs. Ebenezer Scrooge. "A Christmas Carol" themed.

I completely forgot about ERB.


Fun facts...
(Mal might HATE this because it is so anecdotal and so irrelevant to the topic)...

In high school or Jr. High, I went on a field trip to the local college (main one out of three) and saw a collegiate improv group called "Mission Improvable" perform. I thought it was neat. Whose Line Is It Anyway was popular then and I was a fan of both the U.S. and British versions. This local college group was decent, but local... and college... and amateur.

Fast forward to late 2017 (literally a few weeks ago). I have been an ERB fan for years. I've watched all episodes. Got into it during early season 3. Found out that the main rappers/founders/people got their start at a local college as founders of an improv group called "Mission Improvable" and they attended said college when I was in Jr. high and high school and would have been there when I went on said field trip.

For context, I am now 35, and ERB founders Nice Peter and Epic Lloyd (as well as 3rd member Zach Sherwin) are all in the 37(38?) to 40(41?) range.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 12:15:27 AM
#207:


@CableZL posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.


That's what prompted me to look up the definition of "private entity." I was falsely equating "public entity" with "publicly traded."

But I guess that's sort of like how you thought NATO was created in response to 9/11. We're all ignorant of things sometimes, huh?

Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.


_Near_ posted...
yeah, every revolutionary was a marxist, same with Mussolini. until he literally deemed it as a failure, embraced bermensch ideals and said that egalitarianism was wrong.

Mussolini called socialism a failure, not Marxism.

But then every Marxist describes other flavors of Marxism to be failures. Fascism is still a collectivist ideology based on the state seizing the means of production for use by "the people". Only difference between fascism and Leninism is how to spur the working class into action: fascists did it through national pride, and Leninists did it by accusing successful countries of exploiting them.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
01/16/18 12:22:12 AM
#208:


Mal_Fet posted...
@CableZL posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.


That's what prompted me to look up the definition of "private entity." I was falsely equating "public entity" with "publicly traded."

But I guess that's sort of like how you thought NATO was created in response to 9/11. We're all ignorant of things sometimes, huh?

Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.


_Near_ posted...
yeah, every revolutionary was a marxist, same with Mussolini. until he literally deemed it as a failure, embraced bermensch ideals and said that egalitarianism was wrong.

Mussolini called socialism a failure, not Marxism.

But then every Marxist describes other flavors of Marxism to be failures. Fascism is still a collectivist ideology based on the state seizing the means of production for use by "the people". Only difference between fascism and Leninism is how to spur the working class into action: fascists did it through national pride, and Leninists did it by accusing successful countries of exploiting them.


So the video is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6VqB4klpQ


(oops forgot to mention FigureOfSpeech is my alt. Mentioned it many times but not everyone saw those posts)
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CableZL
01/16/18 12:22:46 AM
#209:


Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.

What are you not understanding? I've been saying I was mistaken in the last 3 posts or so.
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_Near_
01/16/18 12:24:40 AM
#210:


All proponents of Italian Fascism rejected both socialism and Marxism, as did most of its members. This is historical fact. The end goal of Marxism is the dissolution of the state. The end goal of fascism is the state possessing complete control.

What you're doing is comparing Fascism to Stalinism, Lennism, and Maoism.

but i've had this conversation with you multiple time and it never goes anywhere
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Blue_Inigo
01/16/18 12:27:34 AM
#211:


_Near_ posted...
All proponents of Italian Fascism rejected both socialism and Marxism, as did most of its members. This is historical fact. The end goal of Marxism is the dissolution of the state. The end goal of fascism is the state possessing complete control.

What you're doing is comparing Fascism to Stalinism, Lennism, and Maoism.

but i've had this conversation with you multiple time and it never goes anywhere

He defended the nazis. Dont expect actual logic from him
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ImTheMacheteGuy
01/16/18 12:27:56 AM
#212:


CableZL posted...
I've been saying I was mistaken in the last 3 posts or so.


Mal will not acknowledge any mistakes. I have had numerous instances when when I've conceded agreeing with him on numerous points while disagreeing on others, and his responses have always been "aha YOU ARE ACKNOWLEDGING YOU ARE WRONG?>!?!?!?" and I've said "I agreed with you on 4-6 other premises and you ignore those and now try to get me to acknowledge disagreement on a 7th point? Which we literally never talked about? Please make your intentions more clear."

I did not get a response. That was in 2016 or maybe earlier. Idk.
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nicklebro
01/16/18 12:36:19 AM
#213:


What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 12:41:03 AM
#214:


CableZL posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Ok so then explain why influencing JP Morgan Chase is legal but influencing the Cowboys is illegal.

What are you not understanding? I've been saying I was mistaken in the last 3 posts or so.

Thought you were only relenting on the private entity part, but good to see you now understand that Trump did not break any ethics laws in the kneeling debacle.

So back on-topic, what actions are you still gonna claim Trump took that were so bad? Nominating Davos? Asking for pictures from an event?

_Near_ posted...
All proponents of Italian Fascism rejected both socialism and Marxism, as did most of its members. This is historical fact. The end goal of Marxism is the dissolution of the state. The end goal of fascism is the state possessing complete control.

Inaccurate. Fascists believe the state and the individual should be one and the same, which is essentially what Communism would, in theory, be.

Thing is, all Marxists accepted that Marx was wrong on several of his predictions in the early 1900's. Marxists then went several directions on how to save Marxist thought from the reality that Capitalism actually was making the lives of the working class better and they therefore had no motivation to revolt. Fascism was one of these offshoots, as was Leninism, as was Maoism, as was Trotskyism, etc etc. Saying Fascism isn't Marxism because fascists thought they were better than regular socialists is like saying Maoists aren't Marxists because they thought they were better than regular socialists.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 12:44:50 AM
#215:


KingCrabCake posted...
@sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 12:50:27 AM
#216:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
@sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:04:58 AM
#217:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.

Yeah keep telling yourself that. Because Trump hasnt done anything to align himself with questionable people and have done questionable things when it comes to race relations....oh wait.

Give up the act Mal.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:21:51 AM
#218:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.

Yeah keep telling yourself that.

I will, because it's a true statement and you don't have anything to come back with now.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:23:46 AM
#219:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.

Yeah keep telling yourself that.

I will, because it's a true statement and you don't have anything to come back with now.

You being as dense as you always are doesnt mean Im not right.

No, Trump isnt the boogeyman, but yes, hes legitimately a terrible person and a racist. Im sorry this goes against your troll narrative.
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Bio1590
01/16/18 1:24:31 AM
#220:


Bio1590 posted...
Over 5 hours later and he's still going.

When was the last time someone spent 5 hours trying to argue over and defend someone they pretend to not support?

Approaching 10 hours now.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:25:14 AM
#221:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Praised Nazis at a rally for being good people.


Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.

Yeah keep telling yourself that.

I will, because it's a true statement and you don't have anything to come back with now.

You being as dense as you always are doesnt mean Im not right.

You aren't right. Trump was factually not referring to Nazis because Nazis were factually not the only people demonstrating against removing the statue.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:28:59 AM
#222:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Hey TaylorSwift this never happened

My bad. He said they were very fine people. Thanks for the correction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

He said this in reference to the statue protesters, and not all people defending the statues were Nazis.

Good job continually falling for the same fake news, bro. You're really dedicated to ingesting poisonous pablum.

Yeah keep telling yourself that.

I will, because it's a true statement and you don't have anything to come back with now.

You being as dense as you always are doesnt mean Im not right.

You aren't right. Trump was factually not referring to Nazis because Nazis were factually not the only people demonstrating against removing the statue.

And if your point was correct, he would have specified that in his comments. He didnt.

If he would have said there were some good people there protesting against removing a historical thing that was hijacked by terrible people with terrible agendas, literally no one would be quoting that in a negative light.

Instead, he left it highly ambiguous because he knows hed be killing a decent portion of his support. You know this and yet still argue against it. Its really sad how much effort you put into this character.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:31:02 AM
#223:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
And if your point was correct, he would have specified that in his comments. He didnt.

"He didn't specify the exact group he was talking about, so I will assume he was referring to the Nazis, not the people who just appreciate the historical significance of Confederate generals"

Regressive logic through and through.
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LRodC
01/16/18 1:32:24 AM
#224:


He lowered taxes

Hitler did that, right?
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:33:01 AM
#225:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
And if your point was correct, he would have specified that in his comments. He didnt.

"He didn't specify the exact group he was talking about, so I will assume he was referring to the Nazis, not the people who just appreciate the historical significance of Confederate generals"

Regressive logic through and through.

>he says as he does the same thing with this quote and other quotes to paint liberals in a negative light

Pot meet kettle rofl

Also love how you ignore the rest of my post because you know Im correct.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:37:50 AM
#226:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
>he says as he does the same thing with this quote and other quotes to paint liberals in a negative light

You literally admitted to assuming he was referring to Nazis rather than the regular protesters absent any indication that that's who he was referring to.

Don't get mad that I rephrased your own fucking statement in a more precise light. The rest of your post was just defending your assumption based on no information, so it's hilarious that you even brought that up.

The statement "there were good people on both sides" is a true statement irrespective of more specificity, because Nazis did not comprise the entirety of one side. If they had, the statement would be bad. But they didn't, so it's not.

Understand yet?
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:39:28 AM
#227:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
>he says as he does the same thing with this quote and other quotes to paint liberals in a negative light

You literally admitted to assuming he was referring to Nazis rather than the regular protesters absent any indication that that's who he was referring to.

Don't get mad that I rephrased your own fucking statement in a more precise light. The rest of your post was just defending your assumption based on no information, so it's hilarious that you even brought that up.

The statement "there were good people on both sides" is a true statement irrespective of more specificity, because Nazis did not comprise the entirety of one side. If they had, the statement would be bad. But they didn't, so it's not.

Understand yet?

Please point to where I said that his quote only pertained to the Nazis.

Ill wait.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:42:38 AM
#228:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
>he says as he does the same thing with this quote and other quotes to paint liberals in a negative light

You literally admitted to assuming he was referring to Nazis rather than the regular protesters absent any indication that that's who he was referring to.

Don't get mad that I rephrased your own fucking statement in a more precise light. The rest of your post was just defending your assumption based on no information, so it's hilarious that you even brought that up.

The statement "there were good people on both sides" is a true statement irrespective of more specificity, because Nazis did not comprise the entirety of one side. If they had, the statement would be bad. But they didn't, so it's not.

Understand yet?

Please point to where I said that his quote only pertained to the Nazis.

Ill wait.

Sure, after you explain how his quote is necessarily inclusive of the Nazis, which you've been avoiding this entire time.
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ManSpread
01/16/18 1:47:45 AM
#229:


for someone that doesnt support trump you go so far out of your way to defend him

what was it you said before, you only support his policy, not the man himself or something like that?
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 1:52:17 AM
#230:


ManSpread posted...
for someone that doesnt support trump

I like how not agreeing that Trump is a racist fascist makes you a Trump supporter now

Also, Trump has been doing a lot of things I like so why wouldn't I support him as long as that remains the case
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 1:52:36 AM
#231:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
>he says as he does the same thing with this quote and other quotes to paint liberals in a negative light

You literally admitted to assuming he was referring to Nazis rather than the regular protesters absent any indication that that's who he was referring to.

Don't get mad that I rephrased your own fucking statement in a more precise light. The rest of your post was just defending your assumption based on no information, so it's hilarious that you even brought that up.

The statement "there were good people on both sides" is a true statement irrespective of more specificity, because Nazis did not comprise the entirety of one side. If they had, the statement would be bad. But they didn't, so it's not.

Understand yet?

Please point to where I said that his quote only pertained to the Nazis.

Ill wait.

Sure, after you explain how his quote is necessarily inclusive of the Nazis, which you've been avoiding this entire time.

I literally never said it did. I never said it didnt talk about the people there who werent marching and chanting hate phrases either.

Youre grasping at straws, as is tradition.

Again, if his quote was ONLY meant for the non-Nazis there, he would have specified. Now, since I know you lack basic comprehension skills, I will elaborate. This does not mean the quote was only directed to the Nazis and it does not mean the quote was only directed to the non-Nazis.

The fact that I have to explain this out in full detail is not surprising but also extremely telling.

So again, please show me where I claimed that his quote was only talking about the Nazis. Oh wait, you cant.
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:01:19 AM
#232:


Mal_Fet posted...
CableZL posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
CableZL posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
And again, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase directly stated that he hired more employees because of Trump. So logically, Trump influenced employment decisions of that private organization.

Quicksand, man. The more you struggle the more trapped you get.


In what world is JP Morgan Chase & Co a private organization?

Earth?


It's a public company on Earth. Are you from a different dimension or something? This may explain everything

It's publicly traded, you simp. It's not a government organization.


Flaming is no longer tolerated Mal

Do you still lie about being a Trump supporter?
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:03:10 AM
#233:


ITT, Mal gets destroyed as per usual. The American conservative mindset has no ground in reality whatsoever. He had told no less than 30 lies in this thread, in typical Trumpian fashion
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:15:43 AM
#234:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Again, if his quote was ONLY meant for the non-Nazis there, he would have specified. Now, since I know you lack basic comprehension skills,

Transference: when you accuse another person of a shortcoming that you yourself have.

No. Saying there were good people on both sides, absent clarification about who precisely you're talking about, still deosn't mean he must have been including Nazis in his statement. Your claim here is patently ridiculous.

I'm gonna make this really simple for you. Let's say I have two baskets of apples, and in each basket there's a mix of fresh and rotten apples. If I said, "there are good apples in both baskets", would you assume I must be including the rotten apples in my claim?

sktgamer_13dude posted...
So again, please show me where I claimed that his quote was only talking about the Nazis. Oh wait, you cant.

You claimed his quote was inclusive of the Nazis, which is bogus.
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FigureOfSpeech
01/16/18 2:17:15 AM
#235:


JeanCocteau posted...
ITT, Mal gets destroyed as per usual. The American conservative mindset has no ground in reality whatsoever. He had told no less than 30 lies in this thread, in typical Trumpian fashion


O_O
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gunplagirl
01/16/18 2:19:19 AM
#236:


Let me guess this entire topic is people listing the systematic increase in aggression trump has orchestrated against minorities, most notably muslim and trans people, but tc keeps saying that it only is Hitler stuff if it's a full on holocaust and that anything shy of that isn't like Hitler (even though Hitler himself increased the ferocity of his rhetoric as time went on)?
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:21:44 AM
#237:


gunplagirl posted...
Let me guess this entire topic is people listing the systematic increase in aggression trump has orchestrated against minorities, most notably muslim and trans people,

Care to elaborate on what you mean by "systematic increase in aggression"? Is he ordering trans people to be rounded up and thrown in prison, or is he just vocal about barring them from entering the military like very short/tall people and people with neck tattoos are?
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:23:54 AM
#238:


Mal_Fet posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Let me guess this entire topic is people listing the systematic increase in aggression trump has orchestrated against minorities, most notably muslim and trans people,

Care to elaborate on what you mean by "systematic increase in aggression"? Is he ordering trans people to be rounded up and thrown in prison, or is he just vocal about barring them from entering the military like very short/tall people and people with neck tattoos are?


He's too effete to get trans people barred, lol.

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gunplagirl
01/16/18 2:25:07 AM
#239:


Ah, tc just answered the question for me.
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sktgamer_13dude
01/16/18 2:25:20 AM
#240:


Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Again, if his quote was ONLY meant for the non-Nazis there, he would have specified. Now, since I know you lack basic comprehension skills,

Transference: when you accuse another person of a shortcoming that you yourself have.

No. Saying there were good people on both sides, absent clarification about who precisely you're talking about, still deosn't mean he must have been including Nazis in his statement. Your claim here is patently ridiculous.

I'm gonna make this really simple for you. Let's say I have two baskets of apples, and in each basket there's a mix of fresh and rotten apples. If I said, "there are good apples in both baskets", would you assume I must be including the rotten apples in my claim?

sktgamer_13dude posted...
So again, please show me where I claimed that his quote was only talking about the Nazis. Oh wait, you cant.

You claimed his quote was inclusive of the Nazis, which is bogus.

Except you fail to see the flaw in your example; your definition of rotten and mine can be different.

Again, show me where I said his quote was only about the Nazis there, as you claimed I said. Oh wait, you cant. You also cant 100% prove it was only about the non-Nazis there because he left it ambiguous for a reason.

If Obama (or really any Democrat) said there are very good people on both sides after a rally where Antifa hijacked something the general left is protesting about peacefully, youd be all over them for not condemning Antifa as a group. Its hypocritial that youre giving Trump leeway when you wouldnt for a left counterpart.

Again, if he truly meant it solely for the non-Nazis, he would have specified and then called them out. He didnt.

I wanna be surprised that you dont understand this, but remembering all of the other stupid shit you say on a literal daily basis makes it not surprising.
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:26:24 AM
#241:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Again, if his quote was ONLY meant for the non-Nazis there, he would have specified. Now, since I know you lack basic comprehension skills,

Transference: when you accuse another person of a shortcoming that you yourself have.

No. Saying there were good people on both sides, absent clarification about who precisely you're talking about, still deosn't mean he must have been including Nazis in his statement. Your claim here is patently ridiculous.

I'm gonna make this really simple for you. Let's say I have two baskets of apples, and in each basket there's a mix of fresh and rotten apples. If I said, "there are good apples in both baskets", would you assume I must be including the rotten apples in my claim?

sktgamer_13dude posted...
So again, please show me where I claimed that his quote was only talking about the Nazis. Oh wait, you cant.

You claimed his quote was inclusive of the Nazis, which is bogus.

Except you fail to see the flaw in your example; your definition of rotten and mine can be different.

Again, show me where I said his quote was only about the Nazis there, as you claimed I said. Oh wait, you cant. You also cant 100% prove it was only about the non-Nazis there because he left it ambiguous for a reason.

If Obama (or really any Democrat) said there are very good people on both sides after a rally where Antifa hijacked something the general left is protesting about peacefully, youd be all over them for not condemning Antifa as a group. Its hypocritial that youre giving Trump leeway when you wouldnt for a left counterpart.

Again, if he truly meant it solely for the non-Nazis, he would have specified and then called them out. He didnt.

I wanna be surprised that you dont understand this, but remembering all of the other stupid shit you say on a literal daily basis makes it not surprising.


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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:30:17 AM
#242:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Except you fail to see the flaw in your example; your definition of rotten and mine can be different.

Yes, the only way you could possibly assume I was referring to the rotten apples is if you made the erroneous assumption that I like rotten apples; which is exactly what you are doing with Trump and Nazis, absent any indication that is the case.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Again, show me where I said his quote was only about the Nazis there

Putting words in my mouth. You believe he was including Nazis in his statement. You have yet to explain what part of his statement indicates that.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
he left it ambiguous for a reason.

Or maybe he didn't feel the need to be super specific because he didn't expect an off-the-cuff remark to be seized by histrionic simpletons in the media to accuse the father and grandfather of jews to be a Nazi sympathizer. Is that a possibility?
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Phantom_Nook
01/16/18 2:31:32 AM
#243:


nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:35:48 AM
#244:


Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.
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darkjedilink
01/16/18 2:38:23 AM
#245:


Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It's funny, because when President Obama was met with those EXACT SAME limits that Trump has come to, all the left-leaning people on this board, on the politics board, and around the country whined that Republicans wouldn't compromise.

Interesting how pretty much all Trump has actually tried to do was undo things that President Obama did, and he's apparently Hitleresque.
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:40:38 AM
#246:


Mal_Fet posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.


Folks, here is lie number 31

Imagine Mal in real life
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:44:32 AM
#247:


JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.


Folks, here is lie number 31

Imagine Mal in real life

What's the lie here? Tell us.
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:48:20 AM
#248:


Mal_Fet posted...
JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.


Folks, here is lie number 31

Imagine Mal in real life

What's the lie here? Tell us.


What journalist did Obama imprison
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Mal_Fet
01/16/18 2:52:15 AM
#249:


JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.


Folks, here is lie number 31

Imagine Mal in real life

What's the lie here? Tell us.


What journalist did Obama imprison

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/obama-has-sentenced-whistleblowers-to-31-times-the-jail-time-of-all-prior-u-s-presidents-combined.html
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JeanCocteau
01/16/18 2:53:39 AM
#250:


Mal_Fet posted...
JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
JeanCocteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
nicklebro posted...
What about the Hitlerish things he wanted to do but couldn't because he:
1) wasn't in a country as vulnerable in influx like that of post WWI Germany and
2) isn't nearly as intelligent or capable as Hitler was.

But that doesn't mean he hasn't tried his best.

Trump wants to be able to lock up his political enemies and sue/imprison journalists. He wants to be able to demand loyalty from the DOJ and maintains that he has the right to pardon himself. He flat out said he wanted to create a registry of Muslim citizens and have police heavily patrol "Muslim neighborhoods" He would have banned Muslims from entering the US if he could, so instead he settled for banning travel from 7 Muslim nations. He has denounced any news organization that says things about him that he doesn't like, no matter how true they are, and declares them to be "fake news" and an enemy of the American people.

Its actually very reassuring to see a president try and push his powers to the absolute limit and be met with absolute boundaries that he is powerless to overcome.

Lol the thing that made me realize just how Hitlerish Trump truly is was when Obama made a speech about how we need to not rely on these safeguards and tend to the garden of Democracy by being well informed, mature, and active voters. Otherwise we might end up the same way Nazi Germany did. And despite never even implying he was talking about Trump, let alone mentioning his name, all the Trumpanzees started absolutely flipping out claiming that Obama compared Trump to Hitler. Lol when in reality, he never even came close to doing that, they're both just so comparable that people baselessly assumed that's what he was saying. Lmao I remember reading the headlines "Obama compares Trump to Hitler!" and thinking, man, he probably shouldn't have done that lol. Then I listened to the speech and read the transcript and was confused, because that part never actually came up. Then it dawned on me that simply listing the things that Hitler did to take over Germany actually does sound like you're describing Trump, and the people most insecure about that fact were the Trumpanzees who went bananas. Lol it was hilarious. Still is.

Best post itt.

It is, but not for the reason you think.

Trump CAN imprison journalists he doesn't like, but he hasn't. Obama did though. Using the espionage act he imprisoned more than twice as many people as all other presidents before him combined.

These are the things that make it particularly humorous when former Obama youths accuse Trump of being like Hitler. They don't get it now, but in like a decade they'll be super ashamed of themselves.


Folks, here is lie number 31

Imagine Mal in real life

What's the lie here? Tell us.


What journalist did Obama imprison

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/obama-has-sentenced-whistleblowers-to-31-times-the-jail-time-of-all-prior-u-s-presidents-combined.html


Oh, I thought you said journalists

For someone who is always such a stickler for exact wording, this is a major faux pas, Mal
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