Current Events > How are 3rd world countries with high poverty and violence not shitholes?

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SageHarpuia
01/15/18 2:55:50 PM
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Serious question.
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armandro
01/15/18 2:58:36 PM
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I used to complain about the US government a lot

In high school i wore anarchist chucks
Cco3jvN

then my dad sent me to mexico and i learned about a real shitty government and that the US wasnt so bad after all

I dont ever want to live in mexico again

I understand why everyone wants to come here
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SageHarpuia
01/15/18 3:00:07 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:01:03 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.


Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.
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SageHarpuia
01/15/18 3:03:52 PM
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r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.


Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.

Now someone explain to me why a person's opinion on the President of the United States should influence that sentiment?
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darkjedilink
01/15/18 3:10:40 PM
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r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.

Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.

True.

So why is it racist to say it?
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Mal_Fet
01/15/18 3:12:20 PM
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Progressives will use any excuse they possibly can to call someone they disagree with a racist, even certifiably true statements.
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:13:23 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.


Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.

Now someone explain to me why a person's opinion on the President of the United States should influence that sentiment?


Because they don't like the President of the United States. When Obama called Libya a shitshow it was no big deal.
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:13:50 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Progressives will use any excuse they possibly can to call someone they disagree with a racist, even certifiably true statements.


This. I've been MODERATED for posting stat sheets straight from the federal government.
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Giant_Aspirin
01/15/18 3:14:11 PM
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the issue is that

1) he called them "shitholes", which is a very poor choice of words from the President of the United States of America

2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)
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TommyG663513
01/15/18 3:14:35 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.

Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.

True.

So why is it racist to say it?


More so tone deaf that he questions why they would come here and why we can't get more Norwegians, but Trump has also made many comments in the past that he just doesn't want immigrants from "certain" countries.
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not_shawn_z
01/15/18 3:16:05 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control


You're so biased and dishonest. How can you say Trump supporters are butthurt lol, The left has lost their minds about this whole situation. About 10000x more than Trump supporters who literally are just saying "It is a shithole", "so what?", "How is it racist?"
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SageHarpuia
01/15/18 3:16:26 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
he called them "shitholes", which is a very poor choice of words from the President of the United States of America

Have you not heard some of the things Richard Nixon said? And you're shocked about this?

it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)


Norway also isn't a third world country
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:16:52 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
the issue is that

1) he called them "shitholes", which is a very poor choice of words from the President of the United States of America

2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)


I love how it's the left that immediately thinks of race as the most significant difference between a place like Somalia and a place like Norway and then turns around and calls TRUMP the racist in the equation.

Could it possibly be that Norway is full of first world, educated productive people, and places like Somalia and Haiti are full of crime and poverty? Could it be THAT? Naw, of course not, because by applying some common sense, we can't all scream RACIST!
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creativerealms
01/15/18 3:17:25 PM
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That wasn't the problem with his comment. Those are the very people who would want to come to America for a better life and will work to have it!
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Fam_Fam
01/15/18 3:18:04 PM
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r4X0r posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
the issue is that

1) he called them "shitholes", which is a very poor choice of words from the President of the United States of America

2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)


I love how it's the left that immediately thinks of race as the most significant difference between a place like Somalia and a place like Norway and then turns around and calls TRUMP the racist in the equation.

Could it possibly be that Norway is full of first world, educated productive people, and places like Somalia and Haiti are full of crime and poverty? Could it be THAT? Naw, of course not, because by applying some common sense, we can't all scream RACIST!


wow seriously?
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Polycosm
01/15/18 3:18:45 PM
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You gotta strip away a lot of context to sanitize that turd of a comment.
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not_shawn_z
01/15/18 3:18:57 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
wow seriously?


LMFAO this place is so fucking unbelievable and completely disconnected with reality. I wish I could meet some of you guys irl
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creativerealms
01/15/18 3:19:25 PM
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r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
r4X0r posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Trump supporters are hilariously butthurt that the world knows him as a racist, lol. This is approaching ridiculous levels of damage control

Ok but I'm not a Trump supporter. Now answer the question.


Answer: they ARE shitholes, by pretty much any empirical measure.

Now someone explain to me why a person's opinion on the President of the United States should influence that sentiment?


Because they don't like the President of the United States. When Obama called Libya a shitshow it was no big deal.

Shitshow sounds more like he was talking about the current situation and not the nation as a whole. Sorry if Obama said what Trump said I would be attacking him just as much.
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FigureOfSpeech
01/15/18 3:20:05 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
Progressives will use any excuse they possibly can to call someone they disagree with a racist, even certifiably true statements.


This is true. I've never seen feeding frenzies of progressives crying racism quite like the ones that happen in discussions about whether or not pineapple is acceptable/good as a pizza topping...
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Tmaster148
01/15/18 3:20:32 PM
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They may be shitholes, but it's still bad for the leader of a country to call them that.
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Mal_Fet
01/15/18 3:44:09 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)

Pretty sure he was actually questioning the institution of having quotas of immigration for different countries.

Like, why should we based immigration on where a person is from rather than their merit
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:46:21 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
They may be shitholes, but it's still bad for the leader of a country to call them that.


Just remember that there's as many people claiming he didn't say that as there are people claiming he did from that meeting. And that one of the people claiming he did has a HORRIBLE track record as far as lying.
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Warrior_Man
01/15/18 3:47:29 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)

yep the only difference between Norway and El Salvador is skin color
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VectorChaos
01/15/18 3:49:29 PM
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The only "evidence" presented that this statement is racist, so far, are regressives insisting it can't be anything but racist because Trump.

Just like they see every fucking thing through the the races involved and make their decision based on that, facts be damned.
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r4X0r
01/15/18 3:49:40 PM
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Warrior_Man posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
2) it's the fact that after the 'shithole' comment he said "why can't they come from places like Norway instead" (aka where everyone is white)

yep the only difference between Norway and El Salvador is skin color


That was my takeaway as well... they immediately look at skin color, then turn around and call Trump the racist. How does that work?
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Tmaster148
01/15/18 4:16:04 PM
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r4X0r posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
They may be shitholes, but it's still bad for the leader of a country to call them that.


Just remember that there's as many people claiming he didn't say that as there are people claiming he did from that meeting. And that one of the people claiming he did has a HORRIBLE track record as far as lying.


That still doesn't change the fact the president should not be calling other countries shitholes.
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