Poll of the Day > 0 Degrees Fahrenheit here right now

(+) Yeah! (+)

It's cold.

Too cold. I don't live in fucking Antarctica. My little space heater can't keep up.

Something about polar winds and whatnot screwing up our weather.
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we're pretty much becoming the new polar as the ice caps recede every year
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Hey, what would happen if the US switched from using pounds to kilos?

Mass confusion
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dont mess with our drug currency
just don't
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Yellow posted...

Hey, what would happen if the US switched from using pounds to kilos?

Mass confusion

drug dealers use kilos.
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Yellow posted...

It's cold.

Too cold. I don't live in fucking Antarctica. My little space heater can't keep up.

Something about polar winds and whatnot screwing up our weather.

Watch that heatr like its a fire
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We measure things in (F)reedom not (C)ommunism, but I do know that at -40 both temperatures converge.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

we're pretty much becoming the new polar as the ice caps recede every year

That. . .sounds wrong
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Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Remind me not to build a greenhouse if this is what the greenhouse effect does!
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43f here in Alberta Canada
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Ogurisama posted...

43f here in Alberta Canada

Lucky! Only 42f here :(
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Ogurisama posted...

43f here in Alberta Canada

The surprising part is I'm out by Vancouver and it's the same... normally it's much warmer here in the winter.
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-2 degrees here.
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11F right now. The warmest day of the week!
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

Yellow posted...

Hey, what would happen if the US switched from using pounds to kilos?

Mass confusion

drug dealers use kilos.

To confuse everybody.
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Single-digit weather during the daytime in New England =x Coldest winter in a hundred years.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Ogurisama posted...

43f here in Alberta Canada

The surprising part is I'm out by Vancouver and it's the same... normally it's much warmer here in the winter.

We get those wonderful chinook winds that warm everything here up mid winter.
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GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Um. Its cold now. Even Florida is colder. So the Globe isnt warming that fast.
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People ate up the global warming like chocolate. Its just change. Like has happened in the history of our planet.
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OneTimeBen posted...

People ate up the global warming like chocolate. Its just change. Like has happened in the history of our planet.

What you are saying is correct, but we have done irreversable damage to the atmosphere, and that is a problem. Earth will outlive us I'm sure (unless we go to nuclear war with NK), but that doesn't mean the human race is going to make it another 5,000 years.
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OneTimeBen posted...

GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Um. Its cold now. Even Florida is colder. So the Globe isnt warming that fast.

Because increasing the planet's average temperature causes disturbances in normal weather patterns, including more extreme winters. Please tell me you're not going to act as though the "it's cold outside, so much for global warming!" argument has any actual merit.

_AdjI_ posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Um. Its cold now. Even Florida is colder. So the Globe isnt warming that fast.

Because increasing the planet's average temperature causes disturbances in normal weather patterns, including more extreme winters. Please tell me you're not going to act as though the "it's cold outside, so much for global warming!" argument has any actual merit.

In his defense, he didn't say there's no global warming. He just said it wasn't happening "that fast."
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MannerSaurus posted...

_AdjI_ posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Um. Its cold now. Even Florida is colder. So the Globe isnt warming that fast.

Because increasing the planet's average temperature causes disturbances in normal weather patterns, including more extreme winters. Please tell me you're not going to act as though the "it's cold outside, so much for global warming!" argument has any actual merit.

In his defense, he didn't say there's no global warming. He just said it wasn't happening "that fast."

I don't think anyone's suggesting that the globe is warming fast enough to prevent cold winters.

KJ StErOiDs posted...

GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Remind me not to build a greenhouse if this is what the greenhouse effect does!

If you really believe in global warming. Bla
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OneTimeBen posted...

KJ StErOiDs posted...

GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Remind me not to build a greenhouse if this is what the greenhouse effect does!

If you really believe in global warming. Bla

Jesus. I don't have the energy for this. It's like arguing with flat Earthers. You don't have to "believe in" science and facts for them to be true. The sky is blue whether you like it or not. You not thinking it is doesn't stop it from being true. Science doesn't give a shit about you, it is a completely emotionless observation of our world.

Now, yes, science is always changing in the sense that we learn more about the world than we did before. (Such as the model of the atom most of us learned about in school growing up is considered dead wrong at this point. Modern quantum physics changed a lot about that.) But pulling conspiracy and politics into "we have damaged the atmosphere" is such a frustrating human trait, limiting the future of our species.

The Earth has been hurt by us. You thinking it hasn't been doesn't change anything at all.
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MannerSaurus posted...

but we have done irreversable damage to the atmosphere

I wouldnt say irreversable, but what we have done wont be fixed in our life time, and will take 100s if not 1000s of years to fix itself
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Weather app says 9 degrees but feels like -7 degrees with wind chill factored in
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Ogurisama posted...

43f here in Alberta Canada

this was what, a week after being colder than the north and south poles? Wonky shit driving to work in January in rain.
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I haven't seen a full day above zero in like two weeks. Today has been the first. It's been just miserable being outside for any amount of time at all.
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http://www.newsweek.com/oxygen-disappearing-worlds-oceans-alarmingly-rapid-pace-771406

I'm just waiting for it to happen
it's going to happen eventually
but we're going to hear things like
"We don't know what happened,"
"It started happening randomly,"
"After 70% of the population died it never happened again..."
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it's kinda cold here in california. might have to put on pants
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I walk around in the summertime saying "how about this heat?!"
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109 here. i'd love ac right now
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Also, this calls for a:



GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Not sure whether or not that's meant to be facetious.

MannerSaurus posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

If you really believe in global warming. Bla

Jesus. I don't have the energy for this. It's like arguing with flat Earthers. You don't have to "believe in" science and facts for them to be true. The sky is blue whether you like it or not. You not thinking it is doesn't stop it from being true. Science doesn't give a shit about you, it is a completely emotionless observation of our world.

Now, yes, science is always changing in the sense that we learn more about the world than we did before. (Such as the model of the atom most of us learned about in school growing up is considered dead wrong at this point. Modern quantum physics changed a lot about that.) But pulling conspiracy and politics into "we have damaged the atmosphere" is such a frustrating human trait, limiting the future of our species.

The Earth has been hurt by us. You thinking it hasn't been doesn't change anything at all.

tbh, badly informed, poorly-spoken climate change supporters are a greater danger to the cause than the actual critics. Not only have you argued that science is frequently wrong (opening the door to "Well, if even a scientific consensus is often wrong, why should we assume it's right about this?"), but you've raised the idea of belief being independent from reality which can be turned on you as well since the causes are seen as a belief.

Granted, I'm assuming you're an earnest believer and not a stealth-critic seeking to undermine it by pretending to believe while advancing terrible arguments.
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Zeus posted...

Not sure whether or not that's meant to be facetious.

Why would it be facetious? It's very well established that global warming contributes to more extreme, unpredictable weather patterns, including cold snaps.
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uhm ice cubes melt in warm water
that water has to end up somewhere
1 trillion gallons of water over Houston agrees
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Zeus posted...

Also, this calls for a:



GastroFan posted...

Welcome to global warming folks. This will become the new normal soon.

Not sure whether or not that's meant to be facetious.

MannerSaurus posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

If you really believe in global warming. Bla

Jesus. I don't have the energy for this. It's like arguing with flat Earthers. You don't have to "believe in" science and facts for them to be true. The sky is blue whether you like it or not. You not thinking it is doesn't stop it from being true. Science doesn't give a shit about you, it is a completely emotionless observation of our world.

Now, yes, science is always changing in the sense that we learn more about the world than we did before. (Such as the model of the atom most of us learned about in school growing up is considered dead wrong at this point. Modern quantum physics changed a lot about that.) But pulling conspiracy and politics into "we have damaged the atmosphere" is such a frustrating human trait, limiting the future of our species.

The Earth has been hurt by us. You thinking it hasn't been doesn't change anything at all.

tbh, badly informed, poorly-spoken climate change supporters are a greater danger to the cause than the actual critics. Not only have you argued that science is frequently wrong (opening the door to "Well, if even a scientific consensus is often wrong, why should we assume it's right about this?"), but you've raised the idea of belief being independent from reality which can be turned on you as well since the causes are seen as a belief.

Granted, I'm assuming you're an earnest believer and not a stealth-critic seeking to undermine it by pretending to believe while advancing terrible arguments.

Except that nothing I spoke was poorly informed and "facts" can't be "terrible" in the nature of an argument. Apparently, I know more about this than you do, and I'm tired of ignorance being spread as fact. I see it enough in social media.
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Just got in from work. Let's see what the NWS says.

Hmm...8F. Wind chill of -9. Stupid cold. It gets milder next week, though, so I'll deal.

Firewood18 posted...

I walk around in the summertime saying "how about this heat?!"

Asshole.

I wish someone would actually ask me this, because I love the heat.
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Yeah even though it's really cold right now, the average temperature is still increasing. Outliers vs averages.

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2016-07/temperature-figure2-2016.png

Probably should have assumed this topic would take this direction.

That part in between 2000 and 2010 is the part deniers like to pick to suit their narrative. Steven Crowder showed the same graph cropped to that part in a video once. During the hottest August in recorded history, nonetheless.
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-10F here

Man, it's 20 degrees here today and I feel like talking a walk all over town. I've barely been outside the house except to go to work or get groceries in what feels like an eternity.
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It got down to 4 degrees last night here in southside Virginia. The space heater in my bedroom has been set on 70 for weeks. It's been constantly reading 51-54F.
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Woah, it hit 32 f today. It feels tropical.
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Yellow posted...

Woah, it hit 32 f today. It feels tropical.

lol, I felt the same way when I went out earlier. "29F...feels kinda warm!"

It should snow more tonight, and rumor has it it'll hit 40F this week!
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18f right now. My work kitchen is the same temp.
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Currently 43F/6C here. Will stay this way for the next couple days, which'll at least help melt the deep snowcover a bit and dry off the main streets before the next blast of cold hits mid-week.
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Did you know Fahrenheit is also water based? (At Earth's atmospheric pressure) 32*F is the freezing point of water, and 212*F is the boiling point of water, which is exactly 180 degrees in difference, so a half circle.
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It was like 64 today. Had to wear a jacket.
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