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Kitt
01/04/18 9:31:58 AM
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The Arkham Knight's identity. Literally everyone called it the moment the character was announced.

Faith's missing sister in Mirror's Edge: Catalyst. Hmmm, another half Asian female that's good at hand-to-hand combat running around. I wonder who that character can be. The game made it painfully obvious and tried to treat it like some revelation when it finally gets revealed despite anyone with a brain already knowing by that point.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/04/18 9:33:20 AM
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Both the best and the worst was Star Ocean Til the End of Time. I love it now, but at the time... ooo boy
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DuneMan
01/04/18 9:33:54 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Both the best and the worst was Star Ocean Til the End of Time. I love it now, but at the time... ooo boy

Definitely SO3. It completely invalidated all of the games in the series in one shot.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
01/04/18 1:34:50 PM
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DuneMan posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Both the best and the worst was Star Ocean Til the End of Time. I love it now, but at the time... ooo boy

Definitely SO3. It completely invalidated all of the games in the series in one shot.


Eh, it didn't really do that. It actually answered a lot of questions in the first two and now stands to make you think about the nature of life.
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HBKick18
01/04/18 1:36:18 PM
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MGSV
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s0nicfan
01/04/18 1:36:45 PM
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Final Fantasy 8
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Zodd3224
01/04/18 1:38:19 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
MGSV

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DK9292
01/04/18 1:41:19 PM
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Define "worst"?
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Foppe
01/04/18 2:02:26 PM
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Heavy Rain The murderer turns out to be the playable private detective with not a single hint of it. We can hear the playable characters thoughts and he seem totally unaware of the stuff the killer should know about.
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter You are in a coma, not a single hint of it in any of the games
Batman: The Telltale Series Bruce parents are crimelords and Vicki Vale, which normally is Bruce Waynes girlfriend, turns out to be the big bad
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CommunismFTW
01/04/18 2:02:52 PM
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HBKick18 posted...
MGSV


Easily the worst of all time
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Zodd3224
01/04/18 2:04:11 PM
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CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV


Easily the worst of all time


MGS2 is up there as well
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Freddie_Mercury
01/04/18 2:04:40 PM
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the entirety of Heavy Rain
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Hambo the Hog
01/04/18 2:15:50 PM
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Final Fantasy 8
All but one of your main party members turn out to be orphans from the same orphanage and they all forgot each other because they've all been using a certain kind of magic in battle. It's mentioned briefly in the beginning that using this magic can cause memory loss, so it isn't exactly out of nowhere, but the revelation doesn't change anything. The dynamics between the characters are almost exactly the same afterwards and it makes no difference to the plot.
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Foppe
01/04/18 2:19:29 PM
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Hambo the Hog posted...
Final Fantasy 8
All but one of your main party members turn out to be orphans from the same orphanage and they all forgot each other because they've all been using a certain kind of magic in battle. It's mentioned briefly in the beginning that using this magic can cause memory loss, so it isn't exactly out of nowhere, but the revelation doesn't change anything. The dynamics between the characters are almost exactly the same afterwards and it makes no difference to the plot.

One could say that...
*puts on sunglasses*
...they forgot it.
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GunmaN1905
01/04/18 2:22:13 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV


Easily the worst of all time


MGS2 is up there as well


Why?
MGS2 has the argument for the best plot ever.

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Kitt
01/04/18 2:37:32 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV
Easily the worst of all time
MGS2 is up there as well
Why?MGS2 has the argument for the best plot ever. MGSV should be banned from ever being mentioned anywhere.

Isn't MGS2's plot just a rehash of MGS1?
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GunmaN1905
01/04/18 2:39:22 PM
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Kitt posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV
Easily the worst of all time
MGS2 is up there as well
Why?MGS2 has the argument for the best plot ever. MGSV should be banned from ever being mentioned anywhere.

Isn't MGS2 plot just a rehash of MGS1?


More like an expansion.
MGS1 was just about the main protagonists, while 2 looks into the bigger picture.
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Pitbuller_26
01/04/18 2:40:47 PM
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NY Corrin not being in the New Year banner and Voting Gauntlet in FEH.

Actually...I like that twist.
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Maeiv
01/04/18 2:41:59 PM
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Bioshock Infinite
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CommunismFTW
01/04/18 2:46:13 PM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
Kitt posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV
Easily the worst of all time
MGS2 is up there as well
Why?MGS2 has the argument for the best plot ever. MGSV should be banned from ever being mentioned anywhere.

Isn't MGS2 plot just a rehash of MGS1?


More like an expansion.
MGS1 was just about the main protagonists, while 2 looks into the bigger picture.
jswxMum

Second and third paragraph are one of the best things in gaming, ever.
And that's a game from 2001.


Jesus christ that was good. I need to replay MGS2.
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GameGodOfAll
01/04/18 2:46:58 PM
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Arkham Knight was the first thing to come to mind. IDK if it's the worst though, but it's real bad.

MGSV isn't even that bad, it's just very poorly executed. Sloppy and messy, but that entire story is fucking trash.

Mirror's Edge 1 had a really bad obvious twist with that one character being that masked character.

Heavy Rain is up there. Not because of who the killer is honestly which seriously wasn't done that bad, but the way the game straight up cheats and lies to you at ONE certain point.

ME3's whole ending might be the worst considering how it ruined so much good.
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Muffinz0rz
01/04/18 2:55:59 PM
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FFVII because you lose the best healer in the game
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MC_BatCommander
01/04/18 2:57:43 PM
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CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV


Easily the worst of all time


Yeah, makes the entire plot of the game pretty much pointless. Not only that, the only effect it has on the broader plot is that it retcons MG1 to say you killed Venom and not BB, fucking stupid
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Spiritlittle
01/04/18 2:58:08 PM
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Bioshock Infinite. That whole game was full of bullshit. I was actually offended about how bad the ending was.
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GamerSanta
01/04/18 3:05:08 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Bioshock Infinite. That whole game was full of bullshit. I was actually offended about how bad the ending was.

Gonna second Bioshock Infinite. It's like the writers had the awesome twist in the first game and wanted to go for something even greater. Unfortunately they went full neckbeard and made a ridiculously stupid "twist" and tried to pass it off as intellectual and deep.
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DoomSwell
01/04/18 3:09:30 PM
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Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright: I don't even necessarily fault the twist (it was all fake) but the way they explained it and pointed out their own plotholes that I didn't catch and then say "but that doesn't matter because it was all fake" and then they bring up another point, dissect it and ... the ending is like 2 solid hours of just reading, no questions or evidence; just dialogue lecturing you like you're stupid and you don't get the twist. They're smarter than you for coming up with such a twist and they are going to rub it in your face.

Muffinz0rz posted...
FFVII because you lose the best healer in the game

Nobody has job classes and Cloud is the best everything by stats which can also be maxed for all.
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SSJGrimReaper
01/04/18 3:18:57 PM
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Lmao I forgot about Bioshock Infinite's goofy shit
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mario2000
01/04/18 3:22:09 PM
#28:


Desmond dying at the end of Assassin's Creed 3

made me quit the series
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eston
01/04/18 3:24:11 PM
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GamerSanta posted...
Spiritlittle posted...
Bioshock Infinite. That whole game was full of bullshit. I was actually offended about how bad the ending was.

Gonna second Bioshock Infinite. It's like the writers had the awesome twist in the first game and wanted to go for something even greater. Unfortunately they went full neckbeard and made a ridiculously stupid "twist" and tried to pass it off as intellectual and deep.

Meh, at the very least I thought it was more interesting conceptually than that dumb twist in the first game, even if they didn't really pull it off
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ManSpread
01/04/18 3:27:23 PM
#30:


Zodd3224 posted...
CommunismFTW posted...
HBKick18 posted...
MGSV


Easily the worst of all time


MGS2 is up there as well

get the fuck out
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Muffinz0rz
01/04/18 4:55:30 PM
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DoomSwell posted...
Nobody has job classes and Cloud is the best everything by stats which can also be maxed for all.

I mean her limit break was a team-heal

Plus you're still pretty early in the game, no way you have stuff "maxed" by then
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creativerealms
01/04/18 4:58:32 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Final Fantasy 8

Oh god the Orphanage twist was the first head scratcher moment I had while playing a videogame. It made no sense back then and it makes no sense now.
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ZombiePelican
01/04/18 5:01:06 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Desmond dying at the end of Assassin's Creed 3

made me quit the series

Why? Desmond literally added nothing to the games and actively dragged them down

His death was one of the crowning achievements of the series
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DuneMan
01/04/18 5:12:34 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Eh, it didn't really do that. It actually answered a lot of questions in the first two and now stands to make you think about the nature of life.

Nah, it was an extra twist on 'it was all a dream'. Invalidating everything the audience has seen results in a trite story, even if it had a mechanism for that shift which was different than the norm.
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MC_BatCommander
01/04/18 7:03:15 PM
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creativerealms posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Final Fantasy 8

Oh god the Orphanage twist was the first head scratcher moment I had while playing a videogame. It made no sense back then and it makes no sense now.


There's like a throwaway comment early on in the game that mentions something about memory loss due to GF usage... But it's really easy to miss. With proper set up and care it could have been a cool twist.
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CarlGrimes
01/04/18 7:07:23 PM
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Not inherently bad but I figured out the Fontaine twist almost immediately in the first Bioshock.
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Kasperia
01/04/18 7:14:48 PM
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MGS4 - Where it is revealed that Ocelot was never possessed by Liquid and had just adopted his persona to fool the Patriots.
I thought that was one of the coolest things about MGS2 and I hated that retcon/twist in 4.


MGSV - A twist for the sake of having a twist. Worst in the series.
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Sami1000
01/04/18 7:16:47 PM
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Painkiller black has some of the most hard secrets in any games. Without guides, you could play that game for hundreds of hours without finding most secrets. They are hard to find and hard as fuck to get to.
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Sack_Pickscott
01/04/18 7:19:24 PM
#39:


GamerSanta posted...
Spiritlittle posted...
Bioshock Infinite. That whole game was full of bullshit. I was actually offended about how bad the ending was.

Gonna second Bioshock Infinite. It's like the writers had the awesome twist in the first game and wanted to go for something even greater. Unfortunately they went full neckbeard and made a ridiculously stupid "twist" and tried to pass it off as intellectual and deep.

I love that it's cool to shit on Infinite now even though it's a crowning achievement of gaming
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tennisdude818
01/04/18 7:19:40 PM
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Hambo the Hog posted...
Final Fantasy 8
All but one of your main party members turn out to be orphans from the same orphanage and they all forgot each other because they've all been using a certain kind of magic in battle. It's mentioned briefly in the beginning that using this magic can cause memory loss, so it isn't exactly out of nowhere, but the revelation doesn't change anything. The dynamics between the characters are almost exactly the same afterwards and it makes no difference to the plot.


I really enjoyed FF8, but the story was a mess. My biggest issue with it were all the huge coincidences.

They are all childhood friends with the exception of Rinoa, and end up traveling together as young adults. not a huge deal when it comes to Squall, Quistis, and Zell. But Selphie and Irvine? Selphie just happened to transfer to Balamb Garden in time to enter SeeD with the gang and go on a mission together. Irvine only enters the picture because the group gets stranded near Galbadia and is given fake orders from Balamb to snipe Edea. And of course... Irvine is the sniper. 1 in a billion events like this happened too many times.

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CarlGrimes
01/04/18 7:28:23 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
Hambo the Hog posted...
Final Fantasy 8
All but one of your main party members turn out to be orphans from the same orphanage and they all forgot each other because they've all been using a certain kind of magic in battle. It's mentioned briefly in the beginning that using this magic can cause memory loss, so it isn't exactly out of nowhere, but the revelation doesn't change anything. The dynamics between the characters are almost exactly the same afterwards and it makes no difference to the plot.


I really enjoyed FF8, but the story was a mess. My biggest issue with it were all the huge coincidences.

They are all childhood friends with the exception of Rinoa, and end up traveling together as young adults. not a huge deal when it comes to Squall, Quistis, and Zell. But Selphie and Irvine? Selphie just happened to transfer to Balamb Garden in time to enter SeeD with the gang and go on a mission together. Irvine only enters the picture because the group gets stranded near Galbadia and is given fake orders from Balamb to snipe Edea. And of course... Irvine is the sniper. 1 in a billion events like this happened too many times.

Ultimecia did it.
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Zack_Attackv1
01/04/18 7:29:47 PM
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When it came time for chapter 6 of Danganronpa V3, I didn't know whether to take a shit or wind my watch.
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boxington
01/04/18 10:04:18 PM
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I don't get people saying MGSV, but to each their own
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dave_is_slick
01/04/18 10:11:09 PM
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Sack_Pickscott posted...
even though it's a crowning achievement of gaming

Not even close.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
01/04/18 10:14:44 PM
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Everything in Diablo 3 not that I would be generous enough to call anything a twist.
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lilORANG
01/04/18 10:17:27 PM
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Sack_Pickscott posted...
GamerSanta posted...
Spiritlittle posted...
Bioshock Infinite. That whole game was full of bullshit. I was actually offended about how bad the ending was.

Gonna second Bioshock Infinite. It's like the writers had the awesome twist in the first game and wanted to go for something even greater. Unfortunately they went full neckbeard and made a ridiculously stupid "twist" and tried to pass it off as intellectual and deep.

I love that it's cool to shit on Infinite now even though it's a crowning achievement of gaming


You can think both. The game itself was amazing but the ending was nonsense.
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KFHEWUI
01/05/18 3:47:13 PM
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Bionic Commando

It is underrated game, but the plot twist is awful.
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DarthAragorn
01/05/18 3:53:05 PM
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boxington posted...
I don't get people saying MGSV, but to each their own

And I don't get how anyone could think that twist wasn't dogshit
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Kitt
01/05/18 4:01:48 PM
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What was the twist in MGSV? Somebody probably already said it itt but I don't feel like looking for it.
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Sack_Pickscott
01/05/18 4:08:20 PM
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Kitt posted...
What was the twist in MGSV? Somebody probably already said it itt but I don't feel like looking for it.

A medic that was in the same accident as Big Boss was given surgery to look like him and hypnotized to serve as a decoy
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