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Kitt
01/05/18 4:10:14 PM
#51:


Sack_Pickscott posted...
Kitt posted...
What was the twist in MGSV? Somebody probably already said it itt but I don't feel like looking for it.

A medic that was in the same accident as Big Boss was given surgery to look like him and hypnotized to serve as a decoy

That sounds like a MGS game alright.
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boxington
01/05/18 4:16:12 PM
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there's precedence in the MGS series for making people believe that they're someone else, and using simulations for a person to achieve the desired results...and the title of "Big Boss" and its role were part of Zero's propaganda

so, I feel that it's something the series was building up to.

and things came full circle when Big Boss ended up agreeing to use someone else as a pawn
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Kitt
01/05/18 4:21:05 PM
#53:


boxington posted...
there's precedence in the MGS series for making people believe that they're someone else, and using simulations for a person to achieve the desired results...and the title of "Big Boss" and its role were part of Zero's propaganda

so, I feel that it's something the series was building up to.

and things came full circle when Big Boss ended up agreeing to use someone else as a pawn

That would make more sense, wouldn't it? The Big Boss that you kill in Metal Gear is the decoy from V and the real Big Boss dies in 4, rather than him being the same person in MG1 and coming back out of nowhere?
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boxington
01/05/18 4:23:17 PM
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I agree with others that the twist wasn't "necessary", but I thought that it was still good
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green butter
01/05/18 4:24:38 PM
#55:


DarthAragorn posted...
boxington posted...
I don't get people saying MGSV, but to each their own

And I don't get how anyone could think that twist wasn't dogshit

agreed, easily the worst gaming plot twist that comes to mind. it negates everything that happened throughout the course of the whole game, and the only reason for this twist existing is that Kojima needed a way to explain how Big Boss died in MG2 yet was able to come back in MGS4
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boxington
01/05/18 4:25:41 PM
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how does it negate everything?
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s0nicfan
01/05/18 4:33:47 PM
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MGS is basically filled with awful character plot twists. I don't know why anyone defends it:
MGS1 snake is a clone of big boss (granted, not revealed until later)
MGS2 snake is actually just Raiden in sim, who may actually not even exist at this point
MGS3 snake isn't actually clone snake but big boss (MSG1 REVERSE TWEEST!)
MSG4 snake is... actually just snake. Good on that game.
MSG5 snake isn't big boss but actually a guy brainwashed to think hes big boss

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Kitt
01/05/18 4:37:38 PM
#58:


s0nicfan posted...
MGS is basically filled with awful character plot twists. I don't know why anyone defends it:
MGS1 snake is a clone of big boss (granted, not revealed until later)
MGS2 snake is actually just Raiden in sim, who may actually not even exist at this point
MGS3 snake isn't actually clone snake but big boss (MSG1 REVERSE TWEEST!)
MSG4 snake is... actually just snake. Good on that game.
MSG5 snake isn't big boss but actually a guy brainwashed to think hes big boss
MGS4 had Ocelot pretending to be Liquid. That was pretty stupid.
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Caution999
01/05/18 4:38:59 PM
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FF8 hands down
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Turbam
01/05/18 4:41:06 PM
#60:


The traitor in Tales of Berseria
It could have been a decent twist, but they gave it away the moment it was brought up
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green butter
01/05/18 4:49:34 PM
#61:


boxington posted...
how does it negate everything?

Everything you do in the game is as Venom Snake the Medic, so these actions are not attributed to the real Big Boss.

If BB had died in the plane and you were the replacement for him there would be some kind of weight, but as it stands, BB was just fucking off doing other stuff and Venom was more or less his clone helping him get some work done.

Because of the twist, and because nothing becomes of it (the game just sort of ends after you find out), it does nothing but make everything you've done feel pointless.

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boxington
01/05/18 4:57:37 PM
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IIRC, Venom's role was to draw the world's attention, and their enemies, to him while Big Boss established Outer Heaven, or something like that

and to support that, a lot of the tapes go on about reestablishing their brand, while adding to his reputation
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GunmaN1905
01/05/18 4:57:44 PM
#63:


Kitt posted...
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Kitt posted...
What was the twist in MGSV? Somebody probably already said it itt but I don't feel like looking for it.

A medic that was in the same accident as Big Boss was given surgery to look like him and hypnotized to serve as a decoy

That sounds like a MGS game alright.


That's not the worst part.
The execution, missing content and all the bullshit they served to the fans is.
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boxington
01/05/18 4:59:07 PM
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yea, the way the twist was revealed was lame, but the twist itself is good, IMO.

and the missing content hits you in the face
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Kitt
01/05/18 5:08:26 PM
#65:


boxington posted...
IIRC, Venom's role was to draw the world's attention, and their enemies, to him while Big Boss established Outer Heaven, or something like that

and to support that, a lot of the tapes go on about reestablishing their brand, while adding to his reputation

If this really is the case, I'm perfectly fine with this Venom Snake stuff.
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GunmaN1905
01/05/18 5:09:52 PM
#66:


Kitt posted...
boxington posted...
IIRC, Venom's role was to draw the world's attention, and their enemies, to him while Big Boss established Outer Heaven, or something like that

and to support that, a lot of the tapes go on about reestablishing their brand, while adding to his reputation

If this really is the case, I'm perfectly fine with this Venom Snake stuff.


Except that there were huge and ridiculous plot holes in there.
As if it was all written by a 12yo.
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Kitt
01/05/18 5:14:19 PM
#67:


GunmaN1905 posted...
Kitt posted...
boxington posted...
IIRC, Venom's role was to draw the world's attention, and their enemies, to him while Big Boss established Outer Heaven, or something like that

and to support that, a lot of the tapes go on about reestablishing their brand, while adding to his reputation

If this really is the case, I'm perfectly fine with this Venom Snake stuff.


Except that there were huge and ridiculous plot holes in there.
As if it was all written by a 12yo.

Not to sound like a smart ass or anything, but that's kind of how I describe MGS in general.
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boxington
01/05/18 5:18:43 PM
#68:


GunmaN1905 posted...
Kitt posted...
boxington posted...
IIRC, Venom's role was to draw the world's attention, and their enemies, to him while Big Boss established Outer Heaven, or something like that

and to support that, a lot of the tapes go on about reestablishing their brand, while adding to his reputation

If this really is the case, I'm perfectly fine with this Venom Snake stuff.


Except that there were huge and ridiculous plot holes in there.
As if it was all written by a 12yo.

which ones, again? last time I've played all the way through it was in 2015
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Foppe
01/06/18 1:47:27 AM
#69:


Kitt posted...
s0nicfan posted...
MGS is basically filled with awful character plot twists. I don't know why anyone defends it:
MGS1 snake is a clone of big boss (granted, not revealed until later)
MGS2 snake is actually just Raiden in sim, who may actually not even exist at this point
MGS3 snake isn't actually clone snake but big boss (MSG1 REVERSE TWEEST!)
MSG4 snake is... actually just snake. Good on that game.
MSG5 snake isn't big boss but actually a guy brainwashed to think hes big boss
MGS4 had Ocelot pretending to be Liquid. That was pretty stupid.

MGS3 built it up so nice with Ocelot being the son of The Sorrow. That way he could have inherited his fathers gift, which Liquid used as a backdoor to take over the body.
Would have been so much better.

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Juhanor
01/07/18 11:53:35 AM
#70:


Foppe posted...

The MGS2 comic even has Sorrow talking down to Ocelot because of their connection, so it's headcanon to me.

The problem with MGSV is replacing Hayter. If they'd kept him for the real Big Boss then Sutherland as the Medic would've made so much more sense.
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ManSpread
01/07/18 12:17:02 PM
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the problem with MGSV is we were supposed to witness big boss' downfall with child soldiers and him being wanted by the rest of the world for being a war criminal essentially

that never happened

not to mention ocelot was 100% out of character the entire game basically
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boxington
01/07/18 12:59:38 PM
#72:


that was likely Ocelot being truest to himself.

he wasn't the antagonist, and didn't need to mislead anyone other than Venom, Miller, and himself as to the whole two Big Bosses thing.

besides that, his role was to guide Snake.

and with the Big Boss thing, wasn't his being a war criminal only revealed after Solid uncovered everything? and we see Big Boss finally being a "player", willing to use someone else as a pawn for his own ends, same with what happened to The Boss

Venom was loyal to Big Boss, and The Boss was loyal to the US, and died for them
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Smashingpmkns
01/07/18 1:11:54 PM
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Ocelot literally manipulated Venom the whole game. seems very much within his character.
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CelestialVoices
01/07/18 2:17:11 PM
#74:


jesus christ mgs
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weapon_d00d816
01/07/18 2:25:37 PM
#75:


Halo 5

Cortana's back from the dead! And now she's the villain because of some ideology she picked up while she was away that had absolutely no previous character development leading to!

Brian Reed is a hack. Superhero comic book writers should not be in charge of AAA flagship game stories.
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Skye Reynolds
01/07/18 2:41:39 PM
#76:


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You can't. -_-
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dave_is_slick
01/08/18 9:37:16 AM
#77:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Halo 5

Cortana's back from the dead! And now she's the villain because of some ideology she picked up while she was away that had absolutely no previous character development leading to!

Brian Reed is a hack. Superhero comic book writers should not be in charge of AAA flagship game stories.

Cortana's imminent rampancy was not only foreshadowed in the books long ago, it was hinted at in Halo 3.
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JustMonika
01/08/18 9:39:50 AM
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The cataylst/Reaper's motivation reveal in ME3.
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CaptainCrunch
01/08/18 9:40:51 AM
#79:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Both the best and the worst was Star Ocean Til the End of Time. I love it now, but at the time... ooo boy


I'm honestly impressed this was the very first response. Love that game, but agree with you about the twist.

Shit, now I wanna replay it.
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Nazanir
01/08/18 9:40:58 AM
#80:


HBKick18 posted...
MGSV

Agreed with this, the twist is literally spoiled in the opening scenes of the game.
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ROBANN_88
01/08/18 10:02:40 AM
#82:


mario2000 posted...
Desmond dying at the end of Assassin's Creed 3

made me quit the series


eh, not so much Desmond dying, cause who really gives a shit?

more so, the whole series to that point has been leading up to a cataclysmic event that could kill the world or something, and there was no way to stop it. and then that Ancient lady just goes "oh, yeah, i stopped it now. easy peasy"
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MACisBack
01/08/18 10:05:20 AM
#83:


Spooking posted...
Star Ocean: TtEoT.


This one.
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Mormaurd
01/08/18 10:07:15 AM
#84:


Star Fox Adventures

It was fucking Andross again.
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l Dudeboy l
01/08/18 10:22:28 AM
#86:


Mormaurd posted...
Star Fox Adventures

It was fucking Andross again.


Yeah I was p annoyed by this.
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ManSpread
01/08/18 4:19:54 PM
#87:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Halo 5

Cortana's back from the dead! And now she's the villain because of some ideology she picked up while she was away that had absolutely no previous character development leading to!

Brian Reed is a hack. Superhero comic book writers should not be in charge of AAA flagship game stories.

As if there is a difference between video game stories and comic books as far as quality goes
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