Current Events > Broke Christians LOSE and Must Pay $135,000 to LESBIANS for being HOMOPHOBIC!!

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Former Christian Oregon Bakers, Aaron and Melissa Klein will continue collecting cans to make money as a court upheld a penalty against them 5 years ago when they broke the law and refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple!!

Their bakery, Sweet Cakes, which is more like Sour Cakes was closed after the couple were ordered to pay 135,000 to lesbian couple, Rachel and Laurel Bowman-Cryer after they refused to bake them a cake and the couple tried to counter that stating the Labour Commissioner, Brad Avakian violated state and federal laws by forcing them to pay in emotional-distress damages.

They said it violated their rights as artists to free speech and religious freedom

But the Oregon Court of Appeals upheld the law stating the Kleins failed to show the state targeted them for their religious beliefs

Brad Avakian said "Today's ruling sends a strong signal that Oregon remains open to all"

This comes as the US Supreme Court is hearing a high profile case im Colorado when a baker refused to make a cake for a same sex couple. Jack Phillips says his 1st amendment claims of artistic freedom are violated, similar to what's happening to the ignorant Kleins

The court said "Although we accept that the Kleins imbue each wedding ake with their own aesthetic choices, they have made no showing that other people will necessarily experience any wedding cake that the Kleins createe predominatly as 'expression' rather than as food"

Kelly Shackelford from the First Liberty institute disagreed and said the Kleins were not entitled tot he Constitution's promises of religious liberty and free speech

A 2007 Oregon law protects the rights of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people in employment, housing and public accomodations and private businesses are not allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

It happened in 2013 when the lesbian couple wanted to order a cake and Aaron had asked them whom the groom was and when they said there wasn't one, he said he could not bake a cake for them because of GOD and then quoted LEVITICUS "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is abomination"

The Kleins received almost half a million in donations and hope that President Trump makes it legal to have religious freedom in their businesses as they appeared alongside Republican politicians to push their agenda.

Would you support a "religious freedom" law?

Aaron and Melissa - Kicking Cans

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Rachel and Laurel - Sweet Winners

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sjws everywhere celebrated.content they destoryed lives.
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Full Throttle posted...

Kelly Shackelford from the First Liberty institute disagreed and said the Kleins were not entitled tot he Constitution's promises of religious liberty and free speech

Any relation to Rusty by any chance?
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They should have made the cake but forcing them to pay that money is wrong in every way
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ModLogic posted...

sjws everywhere celebrated.content they destoryed lives.

yea they tend to want to destroy lives.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

They should have made the cake but forcing them to pay that money is wrong in every way

Full Throttle posted...

A 2007 Oregon law protects the rights of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people in employment, housing and public accomodations and private businesses are not allowed to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

It happened in 2013 when the lesbian couple wanted to order a cake and Aaron had asked them whom the groom was and when they said there wasn't one, he said he could not bake a cake for them because of GOD and then quoted LEVITICUS "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is abomination"

Their stupid ass religion fee fees mean nothing in light of the law and lol at the thought a religious freedom bill, I dare them uphold that when it comes to non christian religions like islam and judism.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

They should have made the cake but forcing them to pay that money is wrong in every way

posting the couple's address causing death threats resulting in their inability to adopt a child seems to be worth $135k in damages at the least
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Private businesses should have the right to refuse whoever they want, and deal with the public outcry/backlash.

If someone wants to refuse service to gays, people of color, white people, straight people, non trans, christians, or whatever, then they should have that right if its their own private business. They would then have to deal with the consequences of said exclusion and probably go out of business, which is completely fine by me, but they shouldnt have to be forced to serve someone.
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The problem with that, what if Walmart decides to discriminate against someone? They won't be going out of business
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usually im against Trump's side, but things like this is why Trump won.

as for myself, i think both side has their fault. the baker should have bake the cake, but allowed to refuse to decorate it with items that's against their policy. and the customer has the right to decorate it into anything after the item was out of the shop, but cant force the baker to do things that they dont want to.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

The problem with that, what if Walmart decides to discriminate against someone? They won't be going out of business

Bug businesses wont dare discriminate against anyone for a multitude of reasons

1: theyre big BECAUSE they dont discriminate. Money is money to them no matter who or what it comes from. They love the color of money above anything else, which is why they wouldnt dare turn anyone away

2: big businesses have to answer to shareholders, which beings me back to my first point. Shareholders would never stand for a policy that would bring in less money, especially considering most of those shareholders are from every ethnic and religious background you can be.

Big businesses would never in a million years do it for those two simple reasons alone. This arguement is more in line with private businesses. Big publically traded businesses would absolutely kill themselves if they adopted anykind of exclusive policy.

Imagine if wal mart came out tomorrow and banned black people from their stores. Their stocks would absolutely TANK and their shareholders would absolutely fire bomb any executive who made that decision. It would never happen.

Private businesses though? Yes, they should have that option
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Private businesses should have the right to refuse whoever they want, and deal with the public outcry/backlash.

If someone wants to refuse service to gays, people of color, white people, straight people, non trans, christians, or whatever, then they should have that right if its their own private business. They would then have to deal with the consequences of said exclusion and probably go out of business, which is completely fine by me, but they shouldnt have to be forced to serve someone.

this. this story still pisses me off. and it has nothing to do with my take on gay people. my best friend in highschool was gay. but the government shouldn't be forcing a store to serve people.

Sucks to be small minded bigots.
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Fair next

and yea, TC and other SJW's always are gleeful at the destruction of lives when it's their enemies. they love it when someone who disagrees with them has their life disintegrate out of revenge from the liberals

I demand all musicians and bakers here play and bake cakes for Donald Trump's ceremony I'll be throwing.

If you don't, I'll sue you.
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Their store, their policies. The couple could have just left a nasty Yelp review and go elsewhere.
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Axiom posted...

Fair next

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This country is dogshit, and has been dogshit for a long time.
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All they had to do was comply with the law. They lost. Repeatedly. They deserved to lose from the very start.
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008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs
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Caution999 posted...

If you don't, I'll sue you.

Go, ahead.

Zikten posted...

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Private businesses should have the right to refuse whoever they want, and deal with the public outcry/backlash.

If someone wants to refuse service to gays, people of color, white people, straight people, non trans, christians, or whatever, then they should have that right if its their own private business. They would then have to deal with the consequences of said exclusion and probably go out of business, which is completely fine by me, but they shouldnt have to be forced to serve someone.

this. this story still pisses me off. and it has nothing to do with my take on gay people. my best friend in highschool was gay. but the government shouldn't be forcing a store to serve people.

Dude what world do you live in?
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JE19426 posted...

Caution999 posted...

If you don't, I'll sue you.

Go ahead.

oh damn, he's going to sue us all we're doomed.
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ModLogic posted...

008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

Must suck when the shoe is on the other foot. The irony of people who discriminate against someone because of beliefs is whining about being discriminated against.

It doesn't work both ways. You cant be a bigot against a group of people and cry foul when people uphold the law against discriminating against a group of people.
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Those were the ones that went as far as doxxing and encouraging harassment of the couple that they refused business with, so it is totally fair for them to be fined that much, and I generally support small business owners being able to follow their own religious beliefs over being forced to support same-sex wedding ceremonies if they sincerely believe that their religion prohibits it.
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VTBM posted...

Their store, their policies. The couple could have just left a nasty Yelp review and go elsewhere.

Exactly... Free market does not exist in the US, at least, not to the extent that people believe.

Heck, Canada has more market freedom at times.
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Doesn't the Bible also say to let God be the only one that judges?
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Ridiculous how grown adults have to be punished like children when it comes to treating people civilly.
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ModLogic posted...

008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

That's just it: a private business being forced to make a cake against their will is the same as somebody refusing to make a cake because they don't agree with homosexuality. Both people are mounds of shit here, but the ones getting offended and ruining lives are the stinkier.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

ModLogic posted...

008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

That's just it: a private business being forced to make a cake against their will is the same as somebody refusing to make a cake because they don't agree with homosexuality. Both people are mounds of shit here, but the ones getting offended and ruining lives are the stinkier.

Yeah its pretty terrible that the actions of those bakers led to the couple receiving numerous death threats, hate mail, and being unable to adopt
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Wonder how much lesbian porn was on this dudes computer
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Good, fuck them.
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hortanz posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

ModLogic posted...

008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

That's just it: a private business being forced to make a cake against their will is the same as somebody refusing to make a cake because they don't agree with homosexuality. Both people are mounds of shit here, but the ones getting offended and ruining lives are the stinkier.

Yeah its pretty terrible that the actions of those bakers led to the couple receiving numerous death threats, hate mail, and being unable to adopt

I love how many people are ignoring that last bit.
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good they deserve it
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tremain07 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Kelly Shackelford from the First Liberty institute disagreed and said the Kleins were not entitled tot he Constitution's promises of religious liberty and free speech

Any relation to Rusty by any chance?

Underrated post.
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ModLogic posted...

imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

If they didn't want to run the risk of dealing with people outside their narrow-minded view of the world, then they shouldn't have opened a public business.
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No but because I don't think it needs a law. I think existing laws should dissappear.
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008Zulu posted...

ModLogic posted...

imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

If they didn't want to run the risk of dealing with people outside their narrow-minded view of the world, then they shouldn't have opened a public business.

Or they should be able to serve who they want and the market will put them out of business or they'll thrive and the voice of the people will dictate their fate and not some law made by an overreaching government who's trying to take money that doesn't exist.
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@TheCyborgNinja posted...

ModLogic posted...

008Zulu posted...

Sucks to be small minded bigots.

indeed. imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

That's just it: a private business being forced to make a cake against their will is the same as somebody refusing to make a cake because they don't agree with homosexuality. Both people are mounds of shit here, but the ones getting offended and ruining lives are the stinkier.

You don't have a fucking clue do you? Since you seem so wilfully ignorant in the damage the bakers caused, cretin.

ModLogic posted...

sjws everywhere celebrated.content they destoryed lives.

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Imagine defending the bakers who violated the law. Criminals. Get even one accusation of a black child smoking weed though and they're okay with the cops killing the kid. I can't possibly imagine why that is. /sarcasm
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

008Zulu posted...

ModLogic posted...

imagine faking emotional distress and ruining the livelihood of a family because your cant accept their christian beliefs

If they didn't want to run the risk of dealing with people outside their narrow-minded view of the world, then they shouldn't have opened a public business.

Or they should be able to serve who they want and the market will put them out of business or they'll thrive and the voice of the people will dictate their fate and not some law made by an overreaching government who's trying to take money that doesn't exist.

The market can't decide things like this. You need policy. While I do think the fine is too harsh, they did discriminate and are clearly in the wrong here. Business shouldn't decide who to sell to (there are exceptions, but that more in the realm of bad previous experiences with said customer, like not paying their bills). What they can do is determine what they sell. That couple could've just said they can't put the wedding couple's names on the cake due to their religious beliefs (I mean, I wouldn't sell a cake with a swahstika on it), but they could've offered to sell them a textless wedding cake.
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Oh well...
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Or they should be able to serve who they want and the market will put them out of business or they'll thrive and the voice of the people will dictate their fate and not some law made by an overreaching government who's trying to take money that doesn't exist.

If they wanted serve whomever they wanted, they should have opened a catering business, not a bakery.
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gunplagirl posted...

Imagine defending the bakers who violated the law. Criminals. Get even one accusation of a black child smoking weed though and they're okay with the cops killing the kid. I can't possibly imagine why that is. /sarcasm

You're becoming hysterical again. Best to step away and take a break.
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thelovefist posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Imagine defending the bakers who violated the law. Criminals. Get even one accusation of a black child smoking weed though and they're okay with the cops killing the kid. I can't possibly imagine why that is. /sarcasm

You're becoming hysterical again. Best to step away and take a break.

Cry more that your ilk is being penalized for harassing others
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Anyone else expected them to be fat? All of them?
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The topic is about to go places. I predict it will make it to 500.
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