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Damn_Underscore
12/15/17 10:11:17 PM
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Do you agree with Ted Cruz?


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Kolibri X
12/15/17 10:36:58 PM
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Propaganda from the giant golden boy tech corporations that support NN, too. You know, that ones that have been throttling traffic, prioritizing paid advertisements in search results, blacklisting websites and users for undesirable opinions. Because THEY know what's best for the internet. They've done such a fantastic job of making the internet so open and free and fair, huh. Also, fuck Cruz.
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hockeybub89
12/15/17 10:38:29 PM
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Literal senator posting literal strawman on literal Twitter
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Phantom_Nook
12/15/17 10:39:55 PM
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I hope Texas votes out Cruz next year.
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Sayoria
12/15/17 10:43:04 PM
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Ted Snooze: Uhhh, what's Title I
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Antifar
12/15/17 10:44:10 PM
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Who's less likable: Comcast or Ted Cruz?
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foreveraIone
12/15/17 10:46:24 PM
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Antifar posted...
Who's less likable: Comcast or Ted Cruz?

cruz at least has a punchable face
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Sayoria
12/15/17 10:46:48 PM
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Antifar posted...
Who's less likable: Comcast or Ted Cruz?

Damn.... well.... I'll say Comcast, only because only one state has to deal with Cruz. All states deal with Comcrap.
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creativerealms
12/15/17 11:07:08 PM
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Video gamers grew up without micro transactions just fine but now they are a blight on the gaming industry.
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CommonStar
12/15/17 11:08:08 PM
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TheCyborgNinja
12/15/17 11:08:15 PM
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Lol, he talks to snowflakes. What a dumbass. Theyre not even alive.

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Tropicalwood
12/15/17 11:08:47 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Video gamers grew up without micro transactions just fine but now they are a blight on the gaming industry.

Or you know, you could just play an actual game like Dark Souls or Vanquish
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creativerealms
12/15/17 11:13:07 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
Video gamers grew up without micro transactions just fine but now they are a blight on the gaming industry.

Or you know, you could just play an actual game like Dark Souls or Vanquish

It was a joke. Still what if there were rumors of companies wanting to start things like micro transactions and some regulating third party stepped in and stopped them? Just food for thought.

It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.
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RighteousTip
12/15/17 11:17:51 PM
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It's telling, seeing how uninformed he is.
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boxington
12/15/17 11:19:16 PM
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imagine a middle-aged dude talking like that
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Tropicalwood
12/15/17 11:19:52 PM
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creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.
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Axiom
12/15/17 11:23:10 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.

No what's more likely is they'll do things similar to what they did in the past which is this

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tremain07
12/15/17 11:30:52 PM
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God these people are so fucking stupid and evil not because they don't know what happened in the past, they know full will about that, they just love petting their stupid ass bullshit to more dumb fuckers who believe it so they can be ripped off even more. There's no greater evil in this world than intentionally spreading ignorance under the guise of truth.
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joe_stalin518
12/15/17 11:31:02 PM
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Ted Cruz always looks like he just sniffed soiled briefs. pompous cocksucker
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RighteousTip
12/15/17 11:31:02 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.

No. This is exactly what is going to happen.

And with what? 3 major ISPs now, Netflix doesn't have much room to stand on
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TheCyborgNinja
12/15/17 11:35:05 PM
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Ted Cruz looks like the super religious guy from Beavis and Butthead. He was only in a few episodes.
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Prestoff
12/15/17 11:35:26 PM
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Antifar posted...
Who's less likable: Comcast or Ted Cruz?


This is a conundrum alright.
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joe_stalin518
12/15/17 11:39:10 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ted Cruz looks like the super religious guy from Beavis and Butthead. He was only in a few episodes.

Sinners and fornicators
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realnifty1
12/15/17 11:39:46 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.
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Tropicalwood
12/16/17 12:28:05 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.

Netflix chews up an insane amount of the bandwidth in NA, about 30-40% during peak hours actually. Don't try and tell me Netflix doesn't gain something from ISPs not being able to tell them to pay up for their fast lanes.
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Life Sympathy
12/16/17 12:29:04 AM
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He does know why that reclassification happened in 2015 right?
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JustAndrew88
12/16/17 12:29:49 AM
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And a response to Ted Snowflake:

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GeneralZhao
12/16/17 12:31:15 AM
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Antifar posted...
Who's less likable: Comcast or Ted Cruz?


holy shit.

I legit can't decide. If I was being held at gunpoint, I'd probably pick Cruz
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/16/17 12:31:21 AM
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Prestoff
12/16/17 1:37:38 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
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Fucking lol
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realnifty1
12/16/17 11:27:59 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.

Netflix chews up an insane amount of the bandwidth in NA, about 30-40% during peak hours actually. Don't try and tell me Netflix doesn't gain something from ISPs not being able to tell them to pay up for their fast lanes.


So let me explain the problem to you in an oversimplified manner. An ISP sells 100 packages to customers telling them that their internet connection allows a rate of 10 requests per second. That would mean that if everyone was using their internet fully they would be making 1000 requests per second of the ISP. However the ISP can only actually handle 500 requests per second, they sold this way because before things like streaming video average requests were below 1 per second. Now NetFlix has created a service needing to transmit content at 8 requests per second. This service has proved popular and now more and more ISP customers are increasing their requests per second averages.

So the ISP's are unable to deliver on the contract they have formed with their customers because customers have started to use more of what was promised to them. This is NetFlix's fault how?
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luigi13579
12/16/17 11:40:49 AM
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Coming from the guy who coined 'Obamacare for the internet', his word on this matter means precisely fuck all.

On the substance of the argument, the FCC took action against violations of net neutrality before 2015. It's just that ISPs challenged their authority in court and won, and in response, the FCC reclassified broadband internet under Title II. Plus, the internet has changed. When dial-up was the predominant flavor of internet, it operated under net neutrality as it used phone lines (which fall under Title II). And back then, many internet services were offered by your ISP (AOL, chat rooms, email, etc.), while nowadays, we almost exclusively use third-party services like Google, YouTube, Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Steam, etc.
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DKFjalfe
12/16/17 11:42:33 AM
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boxington posted...
imagine a middle-aged dude talking like that
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Tropicalwood
12/16/17 11:47:19 AM
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realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.

Netflix chews up an insane amount of the bandwidth in NA, about 30-40% during peak hours actually. Don't try and tell me Netflix doesn't gain something from ISPs not being able to tell them to pay up for their fast lanes.


So let me explain the problem to you in an oversimplified manner. An ISP sells 100 packages to customers telling them that their internet connection allows a rate of 10 requests per second. That would mean that if everyone was using their internet fully they would be making 1000 requests per second of the ISP. However the ISP can only actually handle 500 requests per second, they sold this way because before things like streaming video average requests were below 1 per second. Now NetFlix has created a service needing to transmit content at 8 requests per second. This service has proved popular and now more and more ISP customers are increasing their requests per second averages.

So the ISP's are unable to deliver on the contract they have formed with their customers because customers have started to use more of what was promised to them. This is NetFlix's fault how?

You're just being ridiculous, an ISP cannot make money off packages because they simply won't be there after a month or two and they'd make a hell of a lot more money keeping track of what people do on the internet and selling said data to advertisers.
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JustAndrew88
12/16/17 11:48:55 AM
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Tropicalwood posted...
You're just being ridiculous, an ISP cannot make money off packages because they simply won't be there after a month or two.

Are you trying to say they won't show up that soon or that the ISP would go out of business trying it? If the latter that's definitely not true, as many people across the country often have only 1 option and in that situation it's either "have internet or don't" and these days it's almost impossible to go without. School/work often rely on it.
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Tropicalwood
12/16/17 11:59:29 AM
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JustAndrew88 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
You're just being ridiculous, an ISP cannot make money off packages because they simply won't be there after a month or two.

Are you trying to say they won't show up that soon or that the ISP would go out of business trying it? If the latter that's definitely not true, as many people across the country often have only 1 option and in that situation it's either "have internet or don't" and these days it's almost impossible to go without. School/work often rely on it.

I'm saying that your whole EA treatment style DLC crap is asinine because you're implying that sites will still be there after no visits them, it's a stupid idea and it limits your information that can be gathered and sold, not to mention advertisers would be pissed.

Still waiting for my boss to be asking my ISP for my internet history like I was told at the beginning of the year.
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DifferentialEquation
12/16/17 12:02:34 PM
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TheAnthraxBunny
12/16/17 12:07:36 PM
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Hes not even using snowflake correctly lmao.
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--kresnik--
12/16/17 12:08:55 PM
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Fucking Rekt by Ted Cruz. If he could manage to run without accepting money from big business, he would make a good candidate (after Trump's eight years).
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realnifty1
12/16/17 1:58:41 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.

Netflix chews up an insane amount of the bandwidth in NA, about 30-40% during peak hours actually. Don't try and tell me Netflix doesn't gain something from ISPs not being able to tell them to pay up for their fast lanes.


So let me explain the problem to you in an oversimplified manner. An ISP sells 100 packages to customers telling them that their internet connection allows a rate of 10 requests per second. That would mean that if everyone was using their internet fully they would be making 1000 requests per second of the ISP. However the ISP can only actually handle 500 requests per second, they sold this way because before things like streaming video average requests were below 1 per second. Now NetFlix has created a service needing to transmit content at 8 requests per second. This service has proved popular and now more and more ISP customers are increasing their requests per second averages.

So the ISP's are unable to deliver on the contract they have formed with their customers because customers have started to use more of what was promised to them. This is NetFlix's fault how?

You're just being ridiculous, an ISP cannot make money off packages because they simply won't be there after a month or two and they'd make a hell of a lot more money keeping track of what people do on the internet and selling said data to advertisers.


Yet again, do you even understand the internet? You're argument has nothing to do with anything. Net Neutrality is dying because ISP's oversold their networks and now that services exist where their customers want to make use of what they are contractually promised ISP's don't want to foot the bill for upgrading their network and instead are going to try and push that cost to everyone else instead meeting their contractual requirements.
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
12/16/17 2:03:21 PM
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a snowflake calling other people snowflake it take one to know one right teddy?
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uwnim
12/16/17 2:03:28 PM
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So Cruz is an idiot, what else is new?
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Tropicalwood
12/16/17 2:15:29 PM
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realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
realnifty1 posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
creativerealms posted...
It is quite possible that ISPs won't try to package the internet for more money. Maybe this fear is for nothing. I can't see the future only the past. When have companies ever had the best interests of consumers in mind? Never.

It's more likely that the ISPs will tell netflix to start paying for their outrageous bandwidth use so they aren't pushing shit on to the consumers and can profit off having more just subscribed to them.


Do you understand the internet? Netflix already has to pay for their bandwidth. NN means that when I go hey ISP fetch me some content from Netflix they have to treat that request the same as anyone else making any other request for any type of thing.

Netflix chews up an insane amount of the bandwidth in NA, about 30-40% during peak hours actually. Don't try and tell me Netflix doesn't gain something from ISPs not being able to tell them to pay up for their fast lanes.


So let me explain the problem to you in an oversimplified manner. An ISP sells 100 packages to customers telling them that their internet connection allows a rate of 10 requests per second. That would mean that if everyone was using their internet fully they would be making 1000 requests per second of the ISP. However the ISP can only actually handle 500 requests per second, they sold this way because before things like streaming video average requests were below 1 per second. Now NetFlix has created a service needing to transmit content at 8 requests per second. This service has proved popular and now more and more ISP customers are increasing their requests per second averages.

So the ISP's are unable to deliver on the contract they have formed with their customers because customers have started to use more of what was promised to them. This is NetFlix's fault how?

You're just being ridiculous, an ISP cannot make money off packages because they simply won't be there after a month or two and they'd make a hell of a lot more money keeping track of what people do on the internet and selling said data to advertisers.


Yet again, do you even understand the internet? You're argument has nothing to do with anything. Net Neutrality is dying because ISP's oversold their networks and now that services exist where their customers want to make use of what they are contractually promised ISP's don't want to foot the bill for upgrading their network and instead are going to try and push that cost to everyone else instead meeting their contractual requirements.

Last I checked, my ISP was dropping several lines over the course of several miles (they've been doing this for months), not their fault big cities are a cluttered mess of cables, pipes and concrete and thus a major construction job to replace.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon
12/16/17 3:18:38 PM
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Well, I'm convinced that this man was in fact the Zodiac Killer.
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NadYobWoc
12/16/17 3:20:34 PM
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I'm surprised the Zodiac Killer posts so openly on Twitter.
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Polycosm
12/16/17 3:22:03 PM
#48:


I've been seeing this talking point repeated everywhere recently... "the internet was fine before Obama imposed regulations in 2015."

It's an aggressively uninformed argument.
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ultimate reaver
12/16/17 3:31:18 PM
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i cant believe mal fet is ted cruz
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