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darkphoenix181 11/16/17 5:14:37 PM #151: |
KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm wondering what this has to do with my post you quoted. oh I read that as deciding she didn't want to continue during sex after having initially gave consent --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:15:17 PM #152: |
yemmy posted...
Darmik posted...JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. You didn't answer the question. Would YOU consider this an acceptable thing for yourself to do. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:15:27 PM #153: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
r4X0r posted...So if you don't ask a woman "Are you down with this?" and get an affirmative answer, then it's rape? Never been in a real relationship where women like men to be bold? If you ask you other if its okay to kiss them everytime, youll be single before long --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JimmyJumper6 11/16/17 5:15:30 PM #154: |
Darmik posted...
JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. She consented when she willingly put her mouth around his you know what instead of leaving ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:18:24 PM #155: |
JimmyJumper6 posted...
Darmik posted...JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. So if you did this and she later admitted she did it because she was scared and felt forced to you wouldn't give a shit? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:19:48 PM #157: |
JimmyJumper6 posted...
Darmik posted...JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. I disagree Like someone said earlier, you dont consent if you give up the cash without a complaint. But you cant bring body language into cases like This since there is no way to prove either one. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:20:25 PM #158: |
fenderbender321 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...r4X0r posted...So if you don't ask a woman "Are you down with this?" and get an affirmative answer, then it's rape? 100% fact --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:20:49 PM #159: |
People act surprised why people like Weinstein got away with his shit for so long.
This topic is a perfect example as to why these guys do it and how they justify it to themselves. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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acabes27 11/16/17 5:20:57 PM #160: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
r4X0r posted...So if you don't ask a woman "Are you down with this?" and get an affirmative answer, then it's rape? Is this what virgins actually think happens before sex? --- I believe in the American dream because if you're willing to do the work, you can have anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JimmyJumper6 11/16/17 5:21:34 PM #161: |
Darmik posted...
JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. All this is is the girl getting 10 seconds of fame. She loved every ounce of that threesome but now that everyone is exposing Hollywood. She feels she should too, only now does she feel it was forced. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:23:30 PM #162: |
Darmik posted...
JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...JimmyJumper6 posted...Darmik posted...Just to ask. Id feel bad for her, but rape laws shouldnt work like that. The guy thinks its okay and has sex because she says shes willing. Its the same thing for selling s car for less than you want to sell it for. They cant come back 30 Years down thto road and say they got robbed --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 11/16/17 5:23:34 PM #163: |
JimmyJumper6 posted...
She loved every ounce of that threesome Are you purposely trying to sound like some unapologetic rapist villain from a TV show in an interrogation taunting the cops ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/16/17 5:23:45 PM #164: |
Is this JimmyJumper guy deranged or just trolling?
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yemmy 11/16/17 5:24:41 PM #165: |
Darmik posted...
Would YOU consider this an acceptable thing for yourself to do. if I just met a girl, invited her to my bedroom to fuck, then maybe (if I was into trains and shit and I'm really not). She's some bust down that drove to his room to fuck and leave. the thing is she is a 16 year old though, regardless of the age of consent, still yeah I would probably feel bad about busting down a chick that young. if she wasn't 16 it would look different tbh. but I swear you guys wanna save all these thots out here treating dudes like shit too. nobody raped her. to compare it to a robbery where someone is threatening your well being directly is fucking stupid. --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:25:24 PM #166: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
I never said anything about laws. I'm asking if you think this is an acceptable thing for you to do personally. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/16/17 5:26:13 PM #167: |
it is like you guys are unaware of large amount of women claiming men rape them because they never ask for consent and a giant movement about educating men to gather consent in high schools, colleges, etc and etc
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:28:06 PM #168: |
yemmy posted...
if I just met a girl, invited her to my bedroom to f***, then maybe (if I was into trains and s*** and I'm really not). She's some bust down that drove to his room to f*** and leave. So you can do whatever the fuck you want because she's a one night stand? That's not how it works. yemmy posted... but I swear you guys wanna save all these thots out here treating dudes like s*** too. nobody raped her. to compare it to a robbery where someone is threatening your well being directly is f***ing stupid. If you were in a room with a naked Sylvester Stallone with a boner and his bodyguard who is also naked and with a boner your well being wouldn't feel threatened? What if you were a 16 year old girl? Also gonna add that these two dudes literally joked about bashing her head in when they were done. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:31:16 PM #169: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
it is like you guys are unaware of large amount of women claiming men rape them because they never ask for consent and a giant movement about educating men to gather consent in high schools, colleges, etc and etc In a perfect world, yes, that should be the case. The issue is that most women like bold men that make bold Attempts. If youre not a bold person that tells women they want them, they become those bitter nice guys And Ive lost three girlfriends because I was a nice guy and never pushed for sex when they wanted me to make the first move --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 11/16/17 5:32:05 PM #170: |
I bet these stars are freaking out, knowing their stories are inevitably going to come out. But they got to play it cool while they can.
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:32:44 PM #171: |
Darmik posted...
yemmy posted...if I just met a girl, invited her to my bedroom to f***, then maybe (if I was into trains and s*** and I'm really not). She's some bust down that drove to his room to f*** and leave. Allegedly --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 11/16/17 5:34:56 PM #172: |
Darmik posted...
If you were in a room with a naked Sylvester Stallone with a boner and his bodyguard who is also naked and with a boner your well being wouldn't feel threatened? What if you were a 16 year old girl? I really don't think these guys realize or care how intimidating this situation would be for a young girl. She probably thought "Oh god I don't want this but I better do whatever they want for my own safety" the entire time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yemmy 11/16/17 5:36:36 PM #173: |
Darmik posted...
So you can do whatever the fuck you want because she's a one night stand? That's not how it works. no but askin if she wanna fuck the team isnt against the rules ive seen chicks fuck a lot more than 2 bro and it didnt start out like that --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/16/17 5:37:42 PM #174: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...it is like you guys are unaware of large amount of women claiming men rape them because they never ask for consent and a giant movement about educating men to gather consent in high schools, colleges, etc and etc so you are blaming women for rape culture? --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:39:41 PM #175: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Allegedly People think the behavior in the allegations are okay though? Unless you think the joke is the only thing she lied about. yemmy posted... no but askin if she wanna f*** the team isnt against the rules No. But bringing out your friend from the bathroom without her saying yes to it is. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:43:06 PM #177: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...darkphoenix181 posted...it is like you guys are unaware of large amount of women claiming men rape them because they never ask for consent and a giant movement about educating men to gather consent in high schools, colleges, etc and etc Im blaming evolution. I dont want women to be like that, I want them to enjoy the nice and quite guys. But guess what, they dont That isnt to say the love meatheads that beat them, but for most part they want confident men. And to be confident, you cant ask permission to kiss or fool around with her. Dont force yourself, of course, but you cant act like a 14 year old virgin either Its no ones fault, just evolution. Its like this with all walks of life --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:44:30 PM #178: |
Imagine reading this story and thinking "well maybe if women liked nice guys they wouldn't be coerced into sex so much"
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Funbazooka 11/16/17 5:45:52 PM #179: |
Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...Nazanir posted...Funbazooka posted...Patchwork posted...Eve-L posted...She said she was "forced" to perform oral on his body guard. You're trying to say that feelings of unease, anxiousness or discomfort, those feelings alone make it non-consensual. They just don't, not in the legal sense, and not in the definition of the term. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FluttershyPony 11/16/17 5:47:12 PM #180: |
>d-d-d-dis guy did something THIRTY THREE YEARS AGO
>ILL JUST SAY IT NOW PLEASE BELIEVE ME >GIVE ME MONEY this'll get laughed out of court. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:48:29 PM #181: |
Funbazooka posted...
You're trying to say that feelings of unease, anxiousness or discomfort, those feelings alone make it non-consensual. They just don't, not in the legal sense, and not in the definition of the term. So you don't believe being coerced into sex is rape? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 11/16/17 5:50:06 PM #182: |
No coercion was alleged.
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darkphoenix181 11/16/17 5:51:01 PM #183: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
And to be confident, you cant ask permission to kiss or fool around with her. Dont force yourself, of course, but you cant act like a 14 year old virgin either how can you not ask permission and still not have forced yourself on her? you place too much faith in your ability to read how into your she is don't be surprised if you find yourself in court one day for sexual assault --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/16/17 5:51:46 PM #184: |
Funbazooka posted...
No coercion was alleged. The teen told police she became 'very uncomfortable' when De Luca joined in on the sexual encounter but said she felt she had 'no choice' in the matter Sounds pretty coerced to me. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 5:52:29 PM #185: |
Funbazooka posted...
No coercion was alleged. Stallone allegedly had sex with the girl, telling her she was 'very tight', before asking the minor if she had ever had sex with two men at the same time ? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 5:54:21 PM #186: |
Darmik posted...
Imagine reading this story and thinking "well maybe if women liked nice guys they wouldn't be coerced into sex so much" You just seem like a attention seeking troll now --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 11/16/17 5:56:18 PM #187: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Darmik posted...Imagine reading this story and thinking "well maybe if women liked nice guys they wouldn't be coerced into sex so much" You're literally crying about nice guys and at the same time saying because she didn't like nice guys this happened ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 11/16/17 5:57:23 PM #188: |
They didn't threaten her to obtain the sex.
That was a threat made after the act, because they didn't want their wives finding out. They didn't coerce her to get sex. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 11/16/17 5:59:27 PM #189: |
Funbazooka posted...
They didn't threaten her to obtain the sex. The girl claims Stallone's bodyguard Michael 'Mike' De Luca, who was in the bathroom until Stallone brought him out, 'forced' her to give him oral sex After performing oral sex on De Luca for some time, the teen claims he penetrated her while she was made to perform oral sex on Stallone wat --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 6:00:06 PM #190: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...And to be confident, you cant ask permission to kiss or fool around with her. Dont force yourself, of course, but you cant act like a 14 year old virgin either That wont happen because when Im with a girl i dont make moves because if shit like this. Then she gets upset with me because I didnt make a move and she thinks I think shes ugly now I want women to make the first move so I know Its okay, but they very rarely do. They want the men to hit on them, have him make the first move. That kind of stuff. But now days you can be labeled all sorts of shit for every asking a woman out. I will never date again. I will never have sex again unless she brings it up, just like Ive done before, but that doesnt work out because they want the guy to make the move And if she doesnt like the guy that asks her out, hes a creep for trying to get at her. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 6:00:37 PM #191: |
Funbazooka posted...
They didn't threaten her to obtain the sex. - Stallone asks if she had a threesome before - Bodyguard (again I need to emphasise this guy is the bodyguard for a guy like Stallone) walks into the room and makes her perform oral sex. - They threaten her afterwards in a joking manner You really don't consider the possibility that she felt coerced into sex here? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 6:00:49 PM #192: |
Axiom posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...Darmik posted...Imagine reading this story and thinking "well maybe if women liked nice guys they wouldn't be coerced into sex so much" Didnt say that at all. Learn to read --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 6:01:43 PM #193: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...Bad_Mojo posted...And to be confident, you cant ask permission to kiss or fool around with her. Dont force yourself, of course, but you cant act like a 14 year old virgin either Only guys like you can make a story about sexual assault about themselves. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/16/17 6:02:13 PM #194: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...Bad_Mojo posted...And to be confident, you cant ask permission to kiss or fool around with her. Dont force yourself, of course, but you cant act like a 14 year old virgin either you throw out insults at me saying I must be a virgin and then you go full "nice guy" talking points lmao --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 6:03:16 PM #195: |
Fuck it, I dont know why I bother with real world topics on CE. You guys are fucking insane.
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Darmik 11/16/17 6:04:39 PM #196: |
Dude there's a wide gap between being a '14 year old virgin' and literal sexual assault and rape. Get over yourself.
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Funbazooka 11/16/17 6:05:19 PM #197: |
lilORANG posted...
Funbazooka posted...They didn't threaten her to obtain the sex. Yeah I've been over this. The police also said: 'She states there was no actual physical force, but she did feel intimidated.' It sounds like the police are making a distinction here. What could they mean? Possibly the difference between rougher sex and being held down against one's will and being violated. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 11/16/17 6:06:23 PM #198: |
Funbazooka posted...
'She states there was no actual physical force, but she did feel intimidated.' so you don't believe the police either? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/16/17 6:06:44 PM #199: |
Funbazooka posted...
It sounds like the police are making a distinction here. What could they mean? They mean she wasn't held down and physically raped but she felt intimidated and coerced into it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/16/17 6:07:09 PM #200: |
Darmik posted...
Dude there's a wide gap between being a '14 year old virgin' and literal sexual assault and rape. Get over yourself. My enter conversation is based on someone talking about how you should ask permission to kiss or grab your girlfriend. I said that was stupid and how women dont find that attractive. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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