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alphagamerXXL
11/16/17 2:32:56 PM
#51:


UnfairRepresent posted...
alphagamerXXL posted...
Its unclear if she was actually forced tho, or if she just went along with it.

Yeah people who don't force women into having sex with a complete stranger routinely then threaten to beat her head in if she came out.

Dude if you wanna say "Well innocent until proven guilty" then that's fine, but looking at the story and going "Well this is fine." is just disgusting and anyone who does is a piece of garbage


Like I said, I have major problems with the bash in the hard part but everything that came before that is a little fuzzy.
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UnfairRepresent
11/16/17 2:33:31 PM
#52:


Ving_Rhames posted...
why are all these stories only coming out now 30 and 40 years after they happened?

Couple of reasons.

1. Social media gives people a platform they never had before.

2. A few people who have commited such crimes are now getting punished when they never used to.

And 3. Its recently become a thing to advocate for victims of abuse to come forward and speak out instead of being ashamed of themselves. Which the inverse was true 40 years ago.

Even to this day in this topic on a liberal board of young people, men are furious at her and blaming her for being raped. And you wonder why people in the 60s and 70s might have not been great allies in you attempting to call their heroes immoral?
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UnfairRepresent
11/16/17 2:34:17 PM
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Funbazooka posted...

No, rape is sex without consent. She didn't refuse their advances. She didn't say 'NO', despite being weirded out. She stayed and fucked.

That's still not consent dude, wtf is wrong with you?
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SmidgeIsntBack
11/16/17 2:35:51 PM
#54:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Funbazooka posted...

No, rape is sex without consent. She didn't refuse their advances. She didn't say 'NO', despite being weirded out. She stayed and fucked.

That's still not consent dude, wtf is wrong with you?


He defended Louie's actions for a hundred posts too. I guess it's an ok troll gimmick.
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MikeArmstrong
11/16/17 2:38:18 PM
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Fender has admitted he wants to rape women so it's best to ignore him in this topic.
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EyeWontBeFooled
11/16/17 2:38:37 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Funbazooka posted...

No, rape is sex without consent. She didn't refuse their advances. She didn't say 'NO', despite being weirded out. She stayed and fucked.

That's still not consent dude, wtf is wrong with you?


When was it clearly not consent?

When the second dude was brought in, and she wasn't okay with it anymore. That is removed consent. Full stop.
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 2:40:41 PM
#58:


If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird
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UnfairRepresent
11/16/17 2:41:37 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

"Rape is okay if it's your fetish"

Da fuck?
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Kim Kusanagi
11/16/17 2:43:17 PM
#61:


UnfairRepresent posted...
The-19th-Sparta posted...
I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to sympathize with this girl.


Yeah how dare she get raped and threatened.

What a horrible thing for her to do.

The fuck?

Don't you realize disgusting people like you are why girls are afraid to come forward?


30 years later?
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Maeiv
11/16/17 2:46:28 PM
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 2:46:44 PM
#63:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Funbazooka posted...

No, rape is sex without consent. She didn't refuse their advances. She didn't say 'NO', despite being weirded out. She stayed and fucked.

That's still not consent dude, wtf is wrong with you?


When was it clearly not consent?

When the second dude was brought in, and she wasn't okay with it anymore. That is removed consent. Full stop.


It would be rape if she told them No.

Feeling uncomfortable with it, but still going through with it, and then feeling regret afterwards, does not make it rape. Maybe she realized this too once she spoke to the police.
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darkbuster
11/16/17 2:48:57 PM
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Yeah, this doesn't really sound like rape, at least on Stallone's part. She intentionally came to his room for the very purpose. You can levy a rape charge with the bodyguard, since she didn't intend for him to be involved & you could criticize for the threat, but horny fangirls who wait in hotel rooms really shouldn't have much room for rape claims.
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PowerMang
11/16/17 2:50:11 PM
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eston
11/16/17 2:50:53 PM
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Thinking you can't say no and not actually having a choice in the matter are two very different things. If she had refused, it seems pretty unlikely that Stallone and his bodyguard would have forced themselves on her, and I don't think it's fair to act as though that's what happened.
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PiOverlord
11/16/17 2:51:36 PM
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I refuse to believe this.
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Questionmarktarius
11/16/17 2:52:45 PM
#68:


Have we reached the point where these decades-old accusations are just background noise yet?
We've got to be getting really damn close.
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EverDownward
11/16/17 2:52:48 PM
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Stallone was fourty in '86, oh my god that man's old.
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alphagamerXXL
11/16/17 2:52:51 PM
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See this is where things get fuzzy. Do you explicitly ask do you want to do this? Because Ive had multiple girls tell me thats a HUGE turn off.
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ehhwhatever
11/16/17 2:57:38 PM
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I've been told twice by women that men should be aggressive, to me that is like saying a lion needs to be fierce. Give me a break.
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 3:00:18 PM
#74:


EverDownward posted...
Stallone was fourty in '86, oh my god that man's old.

That's a major part of everyone's disgust.

You can feel that it was inappropriate, scumbaggery, immoral, whatever. I feel that way on some level about it too.

Still wasn't rape. Rape is defined as sex carried out against a person without their consent. You absolutely cannot circumvent the definition of rape because of feels.
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alphagamerXXL
11/16/17 3:00:29 PM
#75:


fenderbender321 posted...
ehhwhatever posted...
I've been told twice by women that men should be aggressive, to me that is like saying a lion needs to be fierce. Give me a break.


It really is a situation where you can't have your cake and eat it too. Women like men who are aggressive and a little bit pushy, because it shows them that they want it. Unfortunately, there's bound to be a rare time when it wasn't really wanted. Life isn't so simple and easy that we can just have nice things all the time without any risk of anything.


Exactly
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 3:02:38 PM
#76:


I'm not even a huge fan of Stallone. I like Tango & Cash and First Blood. Don't care for any of the Rambo sequels. Never seen Rocky.
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FrenchCrunch
11/16/17 3:02:59 PM
#77:


Deadpool_18 posted...
1986

Wish the media had better things to do than turning someones life into a fucking trend.

now youre defending 2 that ive seen, sly and louie
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kuwab0
11/16/17 3:05:38 PM
#78:


MikeArmstrong posted...
He is the law

He betrayed the law!
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EvalAngell
11/16/17 3:05:41 PM
#79:


PoopPotato posted...
Aye uh, you Eva had sex wid two guys ad the same time? It's fun, you know?


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Scotty_Rogers
11/16/17 3:06:08 PM
#80:


It's possible Stallone did this, but there's literally no proof and there's literally no reason to believe this story.

So, fuck this tabloid garbage. Eye Of The Fucking Tiger
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 3:09:00 PM
#81:


FrenchCrunch posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
1986

Wish the media had better things to do than turning someones life into a fucking trend.

now youre defending 2 that ive seen, sly and louie

Louie's pathetic, weird, and slightly creepy for his weiner shenanigans... but all in all harmless and non-criminal.
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Kanaya413
11/16/17 3:37:13 PM
#82:


Ving_Rhames posted...
why are all these stories only coming out now 30 and 40 years after they happened?

It took me ten years to come out about being raped
Its scary as fuck
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Nazanir
11/16/17 3:44:10 PM
#84:


Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.
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tremain07
11/16/17 3:46:58 PM
#85:


Fender is really upping that creep-o-meter. Any further and he'll be on Butters level.
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Scotty_Rogers
11/16/17 3:47:47 PM
#86:


Nazanir posted...
You are literally trying to defend rape.


Even looking at the accuser's story, she gave consent. Feeling uncomfortable doesn't mean she didn't give consent.

Only really wrong thing Stallone allegedly did here was threaten to beat her if she told anyone, but allegedly. This whole story could be bogus.
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 3:49:40 PM
#87:


Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.

It wasn't rape. I don't defend rape.
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Sami1000
11/16/17 3:53:04 PM
#88:


I refuse to believe this
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Nazanir
11/16/17 3:56:52 PM
#89:


Funbazooka posted...
Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.

It wasn't rape. I don't defend rape.

So that is how you morally justify it?

"I believe it wasn't rape, therefor, she wasn't raped."

I am at a loss for words here.

Scotty_Rogers posted...
Nazanir posted...
You are literally trying to defend rape.


Even looking at the accuser's story, she gave consent. Feeling uncomfortable doesn't mean she didn't give consent.

Only really wrong thing Stallone allegedly did here was threaten to beat her if she told anyone, but allegedly. This whole story could be bogus.

Do you not realize the gravity of the situation? She admitted to feeling very uncomfortable, which pretty much means that she was afraid to say no at this point. Just because she didn't say no, doesn't make it magically alright.

It takes two to have sex, if you realize your partner isn't comfortable, you stop. Sex is something to be enjoyed by both parties, one party clearly wasn't, and because she was pretty much outclassed by 2 men, they could have their way because she didn't dare to speak up.

Please, rationalize this for me.
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Scotty_Rogers
11/16/17 3:58:35 PM
#90:


Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.

It wasn't rape. I don't defend rape.

So that is how you morally justify it?

"I believe it wasn't rape, therefor, she wasn't raped."

I am at a loss for words here.


She was at the age of consent and she never refused. Not rape.
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Funbazooka
11/16/17 4:01:02 PM
#91:


Funbazooka posted...
Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.

It wasn't rape. I don't defend rape.

So that is how you morally justify it?

"I believe it wasn't rape, therefor, she wasn't raped."

I am at a loss for words here.

No, I believe it wasn't rape because it doesn't fit the definition of rape.
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Patchwork
11/16/17 4:02:15 PM
#92:


Deadpool_18 posted...
1986

Wish the media had better things to do than turning someones life into a fucking trend.


Wish people would stop thinking that sexual assault is okay to ignore.
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ThirdGender
11/16/17 4:04:47 PM
#93:


alphagamerXXL posted...
Fuck. That sucks.


Well.....
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Eve-L
11/16/17 4:05:53 PM
#94:


She said she was "forced" to perform oral on his body guard.

Are people willfully ignoring that part and saying that's not rape?
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Patchwork
11/16/17 4:07:26 PM
#95:


Eve-L posted...
She said she was "forced" to perform oral on his body guard.

Are people willfully ignoring that part and saying that's not rape?


Yes. They are. They're also ignoring she never consented to sex with the bodyguard.
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Scotty_Rogers
11/16/17 4:07:50 PM
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I didn't read the "forced" part.

Still no reason for anyone to believe this story, though.
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Malcolm_McGuffi
11/16/17 4:09:30 PM
#97:


Deadpool_18 posted...
1986

Wish the media had better things to do than turning someones life into a fucking trend.

Sexual assault victims don't deserve justice?
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Nazanir
11/16/17 4:14:52 PM
#98:


Funbazooka posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Nazanir posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If you feel like Stallone's a scumbag for inappropriately surprising her with another guy to fuck, sure you can feel that way. Probably normal to feel that way on some level but people have all kinds of sexual kinks. Apparently Stallone loves to fuck women together with his bros. Threesomes aren't that extremely weird

Jesus fucking Christ dude, just fucking stop already. You are literally trying to defend rape. Why the fuck do you think victims have such a hard time coming forward?

Because people like you.

It wasn't rape. I don't defend rape.

So that is how you morally justify it?

"I believe it wasn't rape, therefor, she wasn't raped."

I am at a loss for words here.

No, I believe it wasn't rape because it doesn't fit the definition of rape.

You mean your definition of rape.

Sex, and consent, aren't just the verbal yes and nos. Body language plays a huge role too. Ever seen any one who was anxious or uncomfortable? You can easily tell, because their body language is vastly different from someone who is chipper.

Also, Stallone was old enough to be her dad at that time, he should have known way better.

Also, people abuse their positiin of power all the time, fame, wealth, strength. Just because there was no physical assault, doesn't mean she wasn't raped.
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Eat More Beef
11/16/17 4:15:08 PM
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I feel that this whole thing is a very grey area because a) she was super uncomfortable with it, as stated in her statement, but b) she did not say no.
Now you're pretty much demanding we read people's minds. This is where it gets tought because there is a clear difference between saying no, and just going along with it because...

I just hope that all these stories can prompt people to feel comfortable saying no in situations they do not want to be in. At least then, everything is clear, and the person in power understands that if they force themselves on someone, their life will be ruined.
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