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PutUpYourDukes 10/21/17 2:03:16 PM #101: |
RebelElite791 posted...
PutUpYourDukes posted...RebelElite791 posted...Please point out the Marxist democrats in Congress. That certainly hasn't stopped them from overtaking platforms in Democrat strongholds like Seattle http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/a-guide-to-seattles-new-left/ the Democrat party is being consumed by this trend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 10/21/17 2:03:37 PM #102: |
PutUpYourDukes posted...
It could have been and should have been a Democrat win. The Democrat campaigns were so abominably bad and misguided that they lost a race they couldn't have conceivably lost. Jeb or Rubio also would have beaten Clinton. The idea that she was some uber locked candidate for the election when the earliest of polling had it as a toss up is a laughable retcon. Regardless that doesn't matter. Policy enacted by Republicans when they control the government is to blame on them, not the Democrats. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PutUpYourDukes 10/21/17 2:04:17 PM #103: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
PutUpYourDukes posted...It could have been and should have been a Democrat win. The Democrat campaigns were so abominably bad and misguided that they lost a race they couldn't have conceivably lost. Everyone thought Clinton had it in the bag ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 2:04:49 PM #105: |
RebelElite791 posted...
Please point out the Marxist democrats in Congress. Bernie called himself a socialist up until he ran for president --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 10/21/17 2:05:25 PM #106: |
Mal_Fet posted...
RebelElite791 posted...Please point out the Marxist democrats in Congress. But he clearly isn't and never was. So that's pretty irrelevant. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 10/21/17 2:05:51 PM #107: |
PutUpYourDukes posted...
Everyone thought Clinton had it in the bag Retconned and irrelevant to this policy. Stop trying to shift the blame for this onto people who have nothing to do with it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PutUpYourDukes 10/21/17 2:05:52 PM #108: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
PutUpYourDukes posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...PutUpYourDukes posted...Democrats might have had a chance to make this case but they decided to go the route of identity politics and Marxism instead. They have no credibility anymore, and the nation is too bipartisan to start thinking independently. Democrats are also responsible for devolving into the mess they are now and causing a reactionary pushback to the increasingly toxic ideas they've been offering ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SamuelHayden 10/21/17 2:06:20 PM #109: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Lol401k tax benefits and employer matching, how does it work? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PutUpYourDukes 10/21/17 2:06:50 PM #110: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
PutUpYourDukes posted...Everyone thought Clinton had it in the bag Democrats have plenty to do with it. Trump wouldn't have won and the right wouldn't be pushing back this hard if it wasn't for the left villifying people and such. We need to learn the lesson quickly! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 10/21/17 2:07:31 PM #111: |
What a fucking surprise, Republicans are trying to fuck over the middle class and some are defending it by trying to shift the conversation to be about Democrats,Sanders, and Clinton.
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PutUpYourDukes 10/21/17 2:08:17 PM #112: |
YellowSUV posted...
What a fucking surprise, Republicans are trying to fuck over the middle class and some are defending it by trying to shift the conversation to be about Democrats,Sanders, and Clinton. Democrats want to enact the same types of laws ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 10/21/17 2:09:19 PM #113: |
PutUpYourDukes posted...
YellowSUV posted...What a fucking surprise, Republicans are trying to fuck over the middle class and some are defending it by trying to shift the conversation to be about Democrats,Sanders, and Clinton. Link. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 10/21/17 2:14:20 PM #114: |
http://robertreich.org/post/165403227390
Yup, it's more than just democrats or republicans, but ultra rich families bent on bleeding the country dry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 10/21/17 2:17:36 PM #115: |
PutUpYourDukes posted...
Democrats have plenty to do with it. Trump wouldn't have won and the right wouldn't be pushing back this hard if it wasn't for the left villifying people and such. So ultimately it's as I said, you blame everything on the Democratic party instead of holding people accountable for their own actions. How exactly is that fair? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 10/21/17 2:36:22 PM #116: |
Still waiting for that proof that shows Democrats proposing limits to 401(k) contributions.
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Inferno Dive Dragoon 10/21/17 2:38:48 PM #117: |
PutUpYourDukes posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...What people defending this seem to fail to grasp is the concept of employers matching contributions to 401ks. Clinton alone ensured their failure. Really, how fucking stupid did Democrats think I was that I would take one look at the corporate lapdog they were peddling and think "by golly, this could only serve to benefit me". Sanders is the only one I put any stock into, and he turned out to be a fraud too. Same shit both sides, no political party is an ally of mine, not a goddamn one. --- Les aristocrates a la lanterne! Les aristocrates on les pendra! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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unclekoolaid73 10/21/17 2:45:51 PM #118: |
Blame Obama for screwing over White people for eight years so bigly that they had no other choice but to vote for a Republican over another Democrat.
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RebelElite791 10/21/17 2:46:38 PM #119: |
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Really, how fucking stupid did Democrats think I was that I would take one look at the corporate lapdog they were peddling and think "by golly, this could only serve to benefit me". How's Trump working out for ya? Less of a corporate lapdog right? Man of the people? unclekoolaid73 posted... Blame Obama for screwing over White people for eight years so bigly that they had no other choice but to vote for a Republican over another Democrat. Uncle drunk the koolaid indeed. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 10/21/17 3:05:57 PM #120: |
RebelElite791 posted...
He is less of a corporate lapdog because he is part of the group that owns the corporate lapdogs. >_> SamuelHayden posted... Mal_Fet posted...Lol401k That post wasn't serious, don't respond to it like it was. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 5:09:19 PM #121: |
SamuelHayden posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Lol401k I like how the biggest benefit you can think of of the 401k is exactly what the cuts will give people anyway. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 10/21/17 5:26:48 PM #123: |
So the republicans want to eliminate the estate tax and block the middle class from saving for retirement. It is feeling an awful lot like 18th century France in here. It is possible for wealth distribution to become so top-heavy that the system collapses. They should be careful.
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prettyprincess 10/21/17 5:27:11 PM #124: |
'normal people' by whatever measure you are using to compare frequency of direct investingtend to have 401ks
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ElatedVenusaur 10/21/17 5:34:32 PM #125: |
prettyprincess posted...
'normal people' by whatever measure you are using to compare frequency of direct investingtend to have 401ks Yeah, even companies like Macy's and Whole Foods offer 401(k)s. Sure, I can't come close to maxing it out, but they're very ubiquitous. Not only is this is terrible from a policy standpoint, it's awful from a political standpoint: it's Republicans going after 401(k)s for the sole purpose of saving the wealthy more money. That fits well in a sound-bite too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 10/21/17 5:37:33 PM #126: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
prettyprincess posted...'normal people' by whatever measure you are using to compare frequency of direct investingtend to have 401ks It is literally taking money out of the pockets of the middle class, while simultaneously removing the estate tax for the 1% of the 1%. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 10/21/17 7:55:54 PM #128: |
littlebro07 posted...
Why do Republican voters love to fuck themselves so much? they love the pain --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 10/21/17 8:19:29 PM #129: |
Amazing how the person who said Democrats are doing the same thing can't seem to find proof of it.
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 8:23:32 PM #130: |
Bullet_Wing posted...
Mal_Fet posted...SamuelHayden posted...Mal_Fet posted...Lol401k Besides the tax cuts low and middle income people will get, you mean? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralZhao 10/21/17 8:24:33 PM #131: |
They aren't gonna be getting a tax cut, dingus
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drunkmuggle 10/21/17 8:25:19 PM #132: |
this would be so fucked
and lol @ mal tripling down on being a general idiot as usual --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 8:26:01 PM #133: |
CiIantro posted...
Actually it removes the estate tax for everybody. Where are you seeing that only "the 1% of the 1%" will get that cut? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bkkorps 10/21/17 8:27:02 PM #134: |
Mal_Fet posted...
CiIantro posted... what % of the population will have over 11 million dollars when they die? if you dont, the estate tax is not applicable to you. --- Minnesota is like having sex in The Boundary Waters. ****ing close to Canada. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 8:30:35 PM #135: |
GeneralZhao posted...
They aren't gonna be getting a tax cut, dingus If your household makes more than $75k, yes they get a tax cut. And though we don't know exactly what incomes will fall into which of Trump's brackets, it's safe to say people making under 30k will also get a tax cut. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 10/21/17 8:31:07 PM #136: |
Mal_Fet posted...
CiIantro posted... You realize the estate tax has only ever applied to people with over $5.49 million, right? LOL ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 8:32:21 PM #137: |
CiIantro posted...
Mal_Fet posted...CiIantro posted... Having 5.5 million in savings when you die doesn't put you in the top 1% let alone the top 1% of the top 1% lmao --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 10/21/17 8:33:30 PM #138: |
Punishing people for saving for retirement? wtf, that seems like a Democrat plan. All this will do is discourage savings and encourage people to rely on the state for assistance when they get old.
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CiIantro 10/21/17 8:39:30 PM #139: |
Mal_Fet posted...
CiIantro posted...Mal_Fet posted...CiIantro posted... So you realize you didnt know what the estate tax was, got made to look like a fool, and resort to attacking me for semantics. Just googled it, and you need $8.9 million to be in the top 1%. Congratulations, you are right (and you even know how the estate tax works now too!). Please let me amend my statement: It is literally taking money out of the pockets of the middle class, while simultaneously removing the estate tax for the 1.5% and above. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smoke944 10/21/17 8:40:55 PM #140: |
Mal_Fet posted...
CiIantro posted...Mal_Fet posted...CiIantro posted... Edit: want to do more research cause that number is crazy low --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 10/21/17 8:41:08 PM #141: |
Zeus posted...
Punishing people for saving for retirement? wtf, that seems like a Democrat plan. All this will do is discourage savings and encourage people to rely on the state for assistance when they get old. Literally the first time I have ever seen you criticize a republican plan. And here I thought you were just a blind trump drone. Perhaps there is hope for the world after all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CiIantro 10/21/17 8:41:57 PM #143: |
Smoke944 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...CiIantro posted...Mal_Fet posted...CiIantro posted... He didnt know what the estate tax was, so now he is arguing over the semantics of my post to save face lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 10/21/17 8:52:08 PM #144: |
CiIantro posted...
Just googled it, and you need $8.9 million to be in the top 1%. oh wow, that changes everything. i'm now fully on board --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 10/21/17 11:12:37 PM #146: |
CiIantro posted...
So you realize you didnt know what the estate tax was, got made to look like a fool, and resort to attacking me for semantics. Just googled it, and you need $8.9 million to be in the top 1%. Lol so you're only wrong by a 180% margin. No big deal, huh? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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literal_garbage 10/22/17 1:23:02 AM #148: |
Mal will view this bill on it's on merits, for he is an independent who doesn't take sides.
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Disrespector 10/22/17 1:26:17 AM #149: |
hahahaha the trumpanzees itt are somehow blaming this on democrats holy shit they are beyond repair
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CADE FOSTER 10/22/17 1:27:49 AM #150: |
Why are the republicans so evil they only give a shit about the rich
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