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Samurontai
10/10/17 10:55:57 PM
#104:


@Capn_Circus not only ignoring my post asking him to back up his claim, but also refusing to deny that he truly hates the first amendment


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The Great Muta 22
10/10/17 10:56:08 PM
#105:


I Like Toast posted...
They have been doing it since fucking last year. Can you follow?


And it wasn't a point of discussion on any preshow anywhere the first two weeks of the season? Do YOU watch the NFL?
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Zeeak4444
10/10/17 10:57:55 PM
#106:


I Like Toast posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...

So all your evidence is CE.


Shut the fuck up you lying scum.


Prove you're claim or shut up already. You're delusional at this point and you have my whole posting history to look through. Stop being a little baby and go find this proof I'm lying.

On top of that you literally just divulged that you consider CE to be an actual representation of America.

Never has such delusion been shown so plainly.
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I Like Toast
10/10/17 10:59:12 PM
#107:


The Great Muta 22 posted...

Lol what kind of asinine logic is that?

People who follow the NFL talk about the NFL. Normal people talk about what they like. Shitty people focus on what they don't like. Like see yourself who doesn't watch the NFL trying to say that commentators haven't been pointing out who protested for the past year.
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I Like Toast
10/10/17 10:59:27 PM
#108:


Zeeak4444 posted...


Prove you're claim or shut up already

Shut the fuck up you lying scum
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Zeeak4444
10/10/17 11:01:54 PM
#109:


I Like Toast posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...


Prove you're claim or shut up already

Shut the fuck up you lying scum


The old "if I say it enough people might believe it" routine. Fair enough but I really don't want to put the first user on ignore so I guess we'll just agree you concede on all my actual points on the topic.
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SpreadManning
10/10/17 11:03:34 PM
#110:


Nice
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The Great Muta 22
10/10/17 11:04:03 PM
#111:


I Like Toast posted...
Like see yourself who doesn't watch the NFL


Lol okay

Keep believing that this was a huge talked about and massive story, despite all of a dozen people doing demonstrations in week 2, and it not being talked about by either of the 3 pregame shows, was completely ignored on ESPN and NFLN, and at best was only ever referenced in direct discussion about the QB spot with Kaep. You can believe it, but you'd be wrong.
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Shadowstrike007
10/10/17 11:04:10 PM
#112:


Good fucking W.

Everyone should be FORCED to stand.
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Antifar
10/10/17 11:13:47 PM
#113:


Shadowstrike007 posted...
Everyone should be FORCED to stand.

Why?
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I Like Toast
10/10/17 11:15:13 PM
#114:


Zeeak4444 posted...

The old "if I say it enough people might believe it" routine. Fair enough but I really don't want to put the first user on ignore so I guess we'll just agree you concede on all my actual points on the topic.


sure, right when you shut the fuck up you lying scum

The Great Muta 22 posted...


Keep believing that this was a huge talked about and massive story,

https://goo.gl/ihB9LE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_anthem_protests_(2016%E2%80%93present)

https://thinkprogress.org/a-defending-super-bowl-champion-just-kneeled-during-the-national-anthem-before-the-nfl-opener-cd9371a7effb/

https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/5/14517858/lady-gaga-super-bowl-2017-halftime-show-protest-song

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/221053/nfl-players-who-protested-during-the-national-anthem-in-week-10

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The Great Muta 22 posted...
despite all of a dozen people doing demonstrations in week 2

it was a big story when one person was doing and as i already stated

I Like Toast posted...

Not even remotely. Every time a qb was signed that wasn't kaep it was a story. Cutlers bad play in Miami and the 49ers being winless would keep it a story. Trump made it bigger, but the left wasn't letting it die either

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The Great Muta 22
10/10/17 11:22:43 PM
#115:


Your long list isn't proof of what you said, which was

Every broadcast makes a note of what players kneeled, linked arms, held their hands up or whatever the form was used after the Anthem.


You're pulling articles from all over the place, random think pieces, and not citing the actual broadcast. Do you think there being ANY news article makes it a big deal? Again, the facts are that there was all of 12 players in week 2 who did anything. The story was dying until Trump threw gas on the fire and you saw a massive push back by the players because he attacked NFL players directly.

Whatever man, perhaps we have a different idea of what constitutes a big story, but I think you're being obtuse at best if you can't gather how much bigger this became after Trump chimed into it.
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FrisbeeDude
10/10/17 11:26:40 PM
#116:


Lmao good look enforcing it. Stuff like that is collectively bargained and I imagine the NFLPA will vigorously defend its members
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Shadowstrike007
10/10/17 11:33:57 PM
#117:


Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
Everyone should be FORCED to stand.

Why?

You know why
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Antifar
10/10/17 11:36:19 PM
#118:


Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.
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burns112233
10/10/17 11:42:48 PM
#119:


Trump be like... NFL players need to stand and respect our flag!

Then Trump be like... leave protesters in Charlottesville alone they're expressing their first amendment rights!

http://bit.ly/2i0wug9

http://www.trbimg.com/img-59923a73/turbine/sd-me-veterans-charlottesville-20170814

Racist douche bag needs to be fired immediately.
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FrisbeeDude
10/10/17 11:45:43 PM
#120:


Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line
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Zeeak4444
10/10/17 11:46:07 PM
#121:


burns112233 posted...
Trump be like... NFL players need to stand and respect our flag!

Then Trump be like... leave protesters in Charlottesville alone they're expressing their first amendment rights!

http://bit.ly/2i0wug9

http://www.trbimg.com/img-59923a73/turbine/sd-me-veterans-charlottesville-20170814

Racist douche bag needs to be fired immediately.


Agreed. Fucking embarrassment.
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Shadowstrike007
10/10/17 11:49:04 PM
#122:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line

Race has nothing to do with this
for me atleast. You should stand no matter what color,religion,sexuality ect.
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Zeeak4444
10/10/17 11:50:12 PM
#123:


Shadowstrike007 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line

Race has nothing to do with this
for me atleast. You should stand no matter what color,religion,sexuality ect.


Why?
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Shadowstrike007
10/10/17 11:51:42 PM
#124:


Zeeak4444 posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line

Race has nothing to do with this
for me atleast. You should stand no matter what color,religion,sexuality ect.


Why?

Again you know why.
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Zeeak4444
10/10/17 11:52:48 PM
#125:


Shadowstrike007 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line

Race has nothing to do with this
for me atleast. You should stand no matter what color,religion,sexuality ect.


Why?

Again you know why.


I mean you personally. If you said it before I apologize I wasn't paying attention.

Edit: ya I never saw you post why.
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Shadowstrike007
10/10/17 11:58:03 PM
#126:


Zeeak4444 posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Antifar posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...
You know why

I don't.


Gotta keep those uppity black people in line

Race has nothing to do with this
for me atleast. You should stand no matter what color,religion,sexuality ect.


Why?

Again you know why.


I mean you personally. If you said it before I apologize I wasn't paying attention.

I feel as an American you should stand no matter the circumstances. We might not be the best country but many men and women have fought and died for freedoms many others lack.

You do indeed have a right (as those same people fought for that right)to sit for the flag but everyone is doing it for the wrong reasons at this point(I think it's wrong regardless but there is some leeway). It's interesting how many are doing it just to spite a certain individual.

Some will agree and disagree with my post but that's how I feel about the issue.
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iPhone_7
10/11/17 12:02:35 AM
#127:


Theyre losing money, theyre on the verge of bankruptcy, nobody is watching, the sky is falling! - Trumpanzees
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cjsdowg
10/11/17 12:04:38 AM
#128:


Shadowstrike007 posted...

I feel as an American you should stand no matter the circumstances. We might not be the best country but many men and women have fought and died for freedoms many others lack.

You do indeed have a right (as those same people fought for that right)to sit for the flag but everyone is doing it for the wrong reasons at this point(I think it's wrong regardless but there is some leeway). It's interesting how many are doing it just to spite a certain individual.

Some will agree and disagree with my post but that's how I feel about the issue.


Did you know the African-Americans vets were not given access to the GI bill like white ones were. Also did you know that African-American vets had to set in the back of buses while German POWs got to set up front. But yeah we should stand for that ?
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k darkfire
10/11/17 12:07:38 AM
#129:


Stand or get out. Our vets fought and died so you could stand for that fucking flag.How fucking dare you people spit in their faces.
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Shadowstrike007
10/11/17 12:10:28 AM
#130:


cjsdowg posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...

I feel as an American you should stand no matter the circumstances. We might not be the best country but many men and women have fought and died for freedoms many others lack.

You do indeed have a right (as those same people fought for that right)to sit for the flag but everyone is doing it for the wrong reasons at this point(I think it's wrong regardless but there is some leeway). It's interesting how many are doing it just to spite a certain individual.

Some will agree and disagree with my post but that's how I feel about the issue.


Did you know the African-Americans vets were not given access to the GI bill like white ones were. Also did you know that African-American vets had to set in the back of buses while German POWs got to set up front. But yeah we should stand for that ?

Shit happens those people fought for freedom. YOU personally didn't experience that so don't say WE. My family is Native American if anyone should sit for the flag it's us but we don't.
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cjsdowg
10/11/17 12:12:46 AM
#131:


Shadowstrike007 posted...

s*** happens those people fought for freedom. YOU personally didn't experience that so don't say WE. My family is Native American if anyone should sit for the flag it's us but we don't.


You don't speak for all Native Americans. So tell me how were they fighting for freedom when Vets in America didn't have freedom?
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Shadowstrike007
10/11/17 12:13:57 AM
#132:


cjsdowg posted...
Shadowstrike007 posted...

s*** happens those people fought for freedom. YOU personally didn't experience that so don't say WE. My family is Native American if anyone should sit for the flag it's us but we don't.


You don't speak for all Native Americans. So tell me how were they fighting for freedom when Vets in America didn't have freedom?

You're trying to hard to turn it around. I pity and will pray for you.
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sondast
10/11/17 12:16:15 AM
#133:


How about the players respect tradition by staying in the locker room until the game actually starts.
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Knowledge_King
10/11/17 12:22:57 AM
#134:


Shadowstrike007 posted...
We might not be the best country but many men and women have fought and died for freedoms many others lack.


No they haven't. Not since like...the war of 1812 has American freedoms ever been in question in a war. Hell, people didn't even have official freedoms until 1965 and that's not even implemented all the way.
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Insanity216
10/11/17 12:27:30 AM
#135:


Years ago in Taiwan, the audiences had to all stand right before a movie, where the national anthem will play.

That shit has long since been removed by the Taiwanese government. Good to know now that America will take a step backward.
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glitteringfairy
10/11/17 12:28:39 AM
#136:


SlEG ZEON!!
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Dathrowed1
10/11/17 12:32:03 AM
#138:


Insanity216 posted...
Years ago in Taiwan, the audiences had to all stand right before a movie, where the national anthem will play.

That shit has long since been removed by the Taiwanese government. Good to know now that America will take a step backward.

They won't, SCOTUS already ruled in favor of the 1st amendment maybe even before the president was born.
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hockeybub89
10/11/17 12:39:55 AM
#139:


The Admiral posted...
This horseshit is a weekly distraction and is turning off fans. The league is losing money and needed to do something.

Yeah. Drop the anthem. And honestly, the NFL deserves to lose if this horseshit is killing them. They are clearly already near death.
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Capn Circus
10/11/17 12:52:55 AM
#140:


hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
This horseshit is a weekly distraction and is turning off fans. The league is losing money and needed to do something.

Yeah. Drop the anthem. And honestly, the NFL deserves to lose if this horseshit is killing them. They are clearly already near death.


I don't think the anthem is considered being dropped in this case... most people don't have a problem with the anthem. I think it's some of the players who are going to be dropped if they don't abide by their employer's potential impending rules placed on their privileged multi-million dollar contracts.

And unless you're one of the few liberals on this board who didn't say "Fair, Next" to all of the conservatives getting fired, you really shouldn't have too much to say about this.
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Frosted_Midna
10/11/17 1:28:17 AM
#141:


You don't have to stand for the damn flag. To me, it is just a piece of fabric. People need to get off their high horses. I don't give a crap if you stand or not stand, just live your life how you want.
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tremain07
10/11/17 1:32:51 AM
#142:


Frosted_Midna posted...
You don't have to stand for the damn flag. To me, it is just a piece of fabric. People need to get off their high horses. I don't give a crap if you stand or not stand, just live your life how you want.

Then you should leave America because you clearly hate it
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cerealbox760
10/11/17 1:36:42 AM
#143:


Liberals need to stay quiet and let conservatives deal with Trump. The only thing that's keeping conservatives somewhat united to trump are liberals overreacting. Remove the common enemy and watch the republican infighting continue to destroy itself. Conservatives don't like Trump because isn't a conservative and neither are his die hard supporters
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Phantom_Nook
10/11/17 1:53:14 AM
#144:


burns112233 posted...
Trump be like... NFL players need to stand and respect our flag!

Then Trump be like... leave protesters in Charlottesville alone they're expressing their first amendment rights!

http://bit.ly/2i0wug9

http://www.trbimg.com/img-59923a73/turbine/sd-me-veterans-charlottesville-20170814

Racist douche bag needs to be fired immediately.

Agreed. Republicans are fucking hypocrited.
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hockeybub89
10/11/17 2:07:19 AM
#145:


Capn Circus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
This horseshit is a weekly distraction and is turning off fans. The league is losing money and needed to do something.

Yeah. Drop the anthem. And honestly, the NFL deserves to lose if this horseshit is killing them. They are clearly already near death.


I don't think the anthem is considered being dropped in this case... most people don't have a problem with the anthem. I think it's some of the players who are going to be dropped if they don't abide by their employer's potential impending rules placed on their privileged multi-million dollar contracts.

And unless you're one of the few liberals on this board who didn't say "Fair, Next" to all of the conservatives getting fired, you really shouldn't have too much to say about this.

Oh please. The anthem could disappear tomorrow and the sports industry would be fine. Most people aren't paying money to see non-athletes sing for a minute. And you're the exact type of person who freaks out about those conservatives getting fired, so don't go all free market on us now.
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YellowSUV
10/11/17 2:18:30 AM
#147:


MikeArmstrong posted...
Except that's it's not mandatory.


Trumpanzees and reading don't mix well.
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hockeybub89
10/11/17 2:19:57 AM
#148:


byron posted...
Donald Trump and his supporters are Constitution-hating communists.
Sad.

They should get out of the country if they hate what the flag stands for and what the troops died for. Fucking SJWs.
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GiftedACIII
10/11/17 2:20:15 AM
#149:


This is the US we live in
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MaverickXeo
10/11/17 2:22:05 AM
#150:


I feel that people in the public eye (celebs, athletes, etc) should keep their 'politics' to themselves, since they have so much power to stir up 'trouble' like this. If you do not like how the country is run, then deal with it... on your own time, on your own platform.
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The_OD
10/11/17 2:25:18 AM
#151:


The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

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cjsdowg
10/11/17 7:07:12 AM
#152:


MaverickXeo posted...
I feel that people in the public eye (celebs, athletes, etc) should keep their 'politics' to themselves, since they have so much power to stir up 'trouble' like this. If you do not like how the country is run, then deal with it... on your own time, on your own platform.


Then they should not be out there standing for that pro slavery song in the first place.
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VipaGTS
10/11/17 2:29:11 PM
#153:


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/11/nfl-donald-trumps-anthem-tweet-is-not-accurate/

Just more lies from Trump.
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