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MetaMajik
10/07/17 12:40:14 AM
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As white supremacists prepared to descend on Charlottesville, Virginia, in August, the FBI warned about a new movement that was violent, growing, and racially motivated. Only it wasnt white supremacists; it was black identity extremists.

Amid a rancorous debate over whether the Trump administration has downplayed the threat posed by white supremacist groups, the FBIs counterterrorism division has declared that black identity extremists pose a growing threat of premeditated violence against law enforcement.

The FBI assesses it is very likely Black Identity Extremist (BIE) perceptions of police brutality against African Americans spurred an increase in premeditated, retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement and will very likely serve as justification for such violence, reads the report, marked for official use only and obtained by Foreign Policy.

The August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was the catalyst for widespread anger and violence, the FBI report says, concluding that continued alleged police abuses have fueled more violence.

The FBI assesses it is very likely incidents of alleged police abuse against African Americans since then have continued to feed the resurgence in ideologically motivated, violent criminal activity within the BIE movement, the report states.

Some 748 people have been shot and killed by police so far in 2017, including at least 168 African-Americans.

The report, dated Aug. 3 just nine days before the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville turned deadly appears to be the first known reference to black identity extremists as a movement. But former government officials and legal experts said no such movement exists, and some expressed concern that the term is part of a politically motivated effort to find an equivalent threat to white supremacists.

A former senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security who reviewed the document at FPs request expressed shock at the language.

This is a new umbrella designation that has no basis, the former official said. There are civil rights and privacy issues all over this.

The concept of black identity extremists appears to be entirely new. FP found only five references to the term in a Google search; all were to law enforcement documents about domestic terrorism from the last two months. One of those online references is to law enforcement training on identifying domestic terror groups and criminally subversive subcultures which are encountered by law enforcement professionals on a daily basis.

Among the six acts of premeditated violence linked to black identity extremists it excludes violence toward police carried out in the normal course of their duties the reports cites the July 2016 shooting of 11 police officers in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, was reportedly angry at police violence.

Based on Johnsons journal writings and statements to police, he appeared to have been influenced by BIE ideology, the FBI report states. The attack took place during a Black Lives Matter protest of police shootings, though the BLM movement is not mentioned by name in the report.

Yet those involved in the Black Lives Matter movement have voiced concerns about FBI surveillance.

DeRay McKesson, an activist involved in the Black Lives Matter movement, told FP that the FBI visited his house in the run-up to the Republican National Convention. I spoke about the FBI visit to my house and the houses of other activists in our final meeting with [President Barack] Obama, he said.

There is a long tradition of the FBI targeting black activists and this is not surprising, McKesson said.


More to read at the link: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/06/the-fbi-has-identified-a-new-domestic-terrorist-threat-and-its-black-identity-extremists/
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DreadedWave
10/07/17 12:52:06 AM
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Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.
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CarlGrimes
10/07/17 12:58:35 AM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

I remember this though.
http://tinyurl.com/ju6ejn4
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Tezlok
10/07/17 12:59:34 AM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

remember the multiple times black identity extremists ambushed cops and killed them?
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CADE FOSTER
10/07/17 12:59:53 AM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

That was a WIE

White Identity Extremist just like the vegas shooter
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FLUFFYGERM
10/07/17 1:01:27 AM
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black supremacists are in fact a thing and should be shut down alongside white supremacists
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CarlGrimes
10/07/17 1:03:40 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
Have black extremists even done anything major within the past few years?

CarlGrimes posted...
DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

I remember this though.
http://tinyurl.com/ju6ejn4

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Vertania
10/07/17 1:04:05 AM
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CarlGrimes posted...
I remember this though.
http://tinyurl.com/ju6ejn4

and this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Chicago_torture_incident

The victim was bound, gagged, beaten, taunted, had part of his scalp removed with a knife, and was forced to kiss the floor and drink from a toilet bowl. The attackers are heard shouting "Fuck Trump" and "Fuck white people" in the video.
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scorpion41
10/07/17 1:04:30 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
Have black extremists even done anything major within the past few years?


Besides ambushing cops?
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Halo478
10/07/17 1:05:45 AM
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White indentity extremists just shoot up churches
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apocalyptic_4
10/07/17 1:30:32 AM
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Are their good people on both sides?
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Tezlok
10/07/17 1:34:52 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Are their good people on both sides?

yes because there are good whites and good blacks
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Paper_Okami
10/07/17 1:37:58 AM
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Remember when the FBI murdered Fred Hampton? I member
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/07/17 1:39:13 AM
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did they name themselves that? that doesn't sound creative enough to be an original Black name, lol.
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Behaviorism
10/07/17 1:41:06 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY8_7LWDx0w

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Paper_Okami
10/07/17 2:21:15 PM
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The FBI is seriously such a shitty organization, imagine calling people who are protesting their right to not get shot and killed by police "extremists"
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smoliske
10/07/17 2:23:02 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Remember when the FBI murdered Fred Hampton? I member


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2QVjp4KEjU
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lowtides
10/07/17 2:25:32 PM
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If the white extremists arent on the list than screw them. This country is headed to hell in a hand basket.
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Cheater87
10/07/17 2:29:46 PM
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So this group is hunting cops, YIKES!
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:30:17 PM
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LOL at triggered leftists who conveniently forget about Micah Johnson, the Baton Rouge shooter and the Fresno shooter.
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:31:46 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
The FBI is seriously such a shitty organization, imagine calling people who are protesting their right to not get shot and killed by police "extremists"


Yeah, imagine calling Micah Johnson an extremist. How dare they!! He was fighting for social justice!!

The FBI report was not calling BLM protestors "BIE"s. Just a certain type of individual associated with extremist movements like "Moorish sovereign citizens", to which both the Baton Rouge shooter and Micah Johnson belonged to.
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:33:04 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

That was a WIE

White Identity Extremist just like the vegas shooter


Uh, no.
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FrisbeeDude
10/07/17 2:36:33 PM
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"But black people"

Lmao at this gutter tier equivocation attempt
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Paper_Okami
10/07/17 2:37:16 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
The FBI is seriously such a shitty organization, imagine calling people who are protesting their right to not get shot and killed by police "extremists"


Yeah, imagine calling Micah Johnson an extremist. How dare they!! He was fighting for social justice!!


okay and how about the far more significant numbers of black activists who have protested police gunning down black people and haven't killed anyone?
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:37:46 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
The FBI is seriously such a shitty organization, imagine calling people who are protesting their right to not get shot and killed by police "extremists"


Yeah, imagine calling Micah Johnson an extremist. How dare they!! He was fighting for social justice!!


okay and how about the far more significant numbers of black activists who have protested police gunning down black people and haven't killed anyone?

The FBI report was not calling BLM protestors "BIE"s. Just a certain type of individual associated with extremist movements like "Moorish sovereign citizens", to which both the Baton Rouge shooter and Micah Johnson belonged to.
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RE_expert44
10/07/17 2:40:45 PM
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Doesn't the FBI know that black people can't be racist in 2017?
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:42:05 PM
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The FBI focused on this extremist group in their report. How dare they do that!!

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/inside-the-moorish-sovereign-citizen-movement-that-motivated-the-baton-rouge-cop-killer/
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MacDaMurderer
10/07/17 2:42:24 PM
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Isn't this the same logic they used to spy on MLK and Malcolm X?
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Annihilated
10/07/17 2:43:38 PM
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Racial identity is a stupid and dangerous concept and so is any organization that supports it. FBI is being completely fair.
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The Admiral
10/07/17 2:43:53 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.


LOL @ at a deflection in literally the first response. Goddamn, the liberal fragility on this board.
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Paper_Okami
10/07/17 2:46:06 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
Isn't this the same logic they used to spy on MLK and Malcolm X?


yesAmmonitida posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
The FBI is seriously such a shitty organization, imagine calling people who are protesting their right to not get shot and killed by police "extremists"


Yeah, imagine calling Micah Johnson an extremist. How dare they!! He was fighting for social justice!!


okay and how about the far more significant numbers of black activists who have protested police gunning down black people and haven't killed anyone?

The FBI report was not calling BLM protestors "BIE"s. Just a certain type of individual associated with extremist movements like "Moorish sovereign citizens", to which both the Baton Rouge shooter and Micah Johnson belonged to.


bullshit.

This isn't anything they haven't done before.
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 2:48:23 PM
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In the report, the FBI makes note of 6 separate attacks on law enforcement/white people last year, resulting in 9 deaths (in contrast, no attacks came at the hands of anyone associated with a WIE movement). All perps were associated with extremist movements like Moorish Sovereign citizens and/or Black Hebrews. It was NOT calling BLM a BIE movement.
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DreadedWave
10/07/17 3:36:32 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
LOL at triggered leftists

>posts 6 times
>calls other people triggered
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The Admiral
10/07/17 5:25:54 PM
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I only posted once before this, and you're triggered big time.
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Axiom
10/07/17 5:35:34 PM
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*Stops focusing on white extremists even though there have been actual attacks from them. Refocuses on "black extremists" with no clear definition of what a "black extremist" even is or if they actually exist*

Lol ok
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Chad-Henne
10/07/17 5:38:26 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
"But black people"

Lmao at this gutter tier equivocation attempt

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Fishy
10/07/17 5:41:53 PM
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A white guy shoots up a crowd with no clear reason at all and it's white supremacy.

A black man shoots up a church in retaliation for white crimes and leaves a note specifically saying so and it's just a mystery why he would ever do it.
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Taharqa_
10/07/17 6:00:16 PM
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Fishy posted...
A white guy shoots up a crowd with no clear reason at all and it's white supremacy.

A black man shoots up a church in retaliation for white crimes and leaves a note specifically saying so and it's just a mystery why he would ever do it.


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untrustful
10/07/17 6:02:01 PM
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It's hypocritical to focus on black supremacists without focusing on white supremacists. Either focus on both or don't do your job at all.
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cjsdowg
10/07/17 6:02:15 PM
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Wow a made up term to complain about black people. Who would have guess that coming from this admin.
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 6:04:56 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Wow a made up term to complain about black people. Who would have guess that coming from this admin.


https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/inside-the-moorish-sovereign-citizen-movement-that-motivated-the-baton-rouge-cop-killer/

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--kresnik--
10/07/17 6:05:52 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

You must have that confused with something blm did, then.
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AcFan87
10/07/17 6:08:36 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

I remember when they burned businesses to the ground, overturned cars, assaulted people, etc.
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Fishy
10/07/17 6:10:04 PM
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AcFan87 posted...
I remember when they burned businesses to the ground, overturned cars, assaulted people, etc.

Conducted organized hits on law enforcement, shot up churches, tortured people...

Man this is kinda starting to sound like... terrorism?
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AcFan87
10/07/17 6:13:14 PM
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Fishy posted...
AcFan87 posted...
I remember when they burned businesses to the ground, overturned cars, assaulted people, etc.

Conducted organized hits on law enforcement, shoot up churches, tortured people...

Man this is kinda starting to sound like... terrorism?

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Ammonitida
10/07/17 6:17:28 PM
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Fishy posted...
AcFan87 posted...
I remember when they burned businesses to the ground, overturned cars, assaulted people, etc.

Conducted organized hits on law enforcement, shoot up churches, tortured people...

Man this is kinda starting to sound like... terrorism?


A motive in the Church shooting has not been established. The alleged note found in his car was sourced to an anonymous official who didn't seem too sure of what it meant. I'm not going to put much stock in that. Further, his social media accounts didn't have much in the way of racist hate. Just an ironic video that he shared about white terrorists being more common than Muslim terrorists in the US. Nearly the entire leftwing believes that, and they're right.

And who tortured people? You're not talking about that taped kidnapping? Yes, they were racist, but I've haven't seen any evidence that they were connected to any "black identity" movement like the Baton Rouge shooter.
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Fishy
10/07/17 6:21:25 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
A motive in the Church shooting has not been established. The alleged note found in his car was sourced to an anonymous official who didn't seem too sure of what it meant. I'm not going to put much stock in that. Further, his social media accounts didn't have much in the way of racist hate. Just an ironic video that he shared about white terrorists being more common than Muslim terrorists in the US. Nearly the entire leftwing believes that, and they're right.

And who tortured people?

Yes it must have been a very vague note to reference the Charleston incidents and white supremacy but not be clear on his stance on said topics after shooting up a white church.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/04/facebook-live-stream-video-man-attacked-chicago-trump

Oh I see they need to wave a specific flag of an organization before being referred to as what they are?
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Ammonitida
10/07/17 6:24:42 PM
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Fishy posted...
Ammonitida posted...
A motive in the Church shooting has not been established. The alleged note found in his car was sourced to an anonymous official who didn't seem too sure of what it meant. I'm not going to put much stock in that. Further, his social media accounts didn't have much in the way of racist hate. Just an ironic video that he shared about white terrorists being more common than Muslim terrorists in the US. Nearly the entire leftwing believes that, and they're right.

And who tortured people?

Yes it must have been a very vague note to reference the Charleston incidents and white supremacy but not be clear on his stance on said topics after shooting up a white church.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/04/facebook-live-stream-video-man-attacked-chicago-trump


He was also a former member of the church and he frequently spoke about wanting to become a preacher. His facebook was filled with bible thumping posts. This does not point to a racial motive. We need more than just an anonymous claim that a vague note was found in his car in order to conclude that his shooting was race-motivated.
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