Current Events > The FBI's New U.S. Terrorist Threat: 'Black Identity Extremists'

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Oh I see they need to wave a specific flag of an organization before being referred to as what they are?

The FBI report in question was not focused on ordinary hate crimes, but those carried out by people associated with known black identity movements, like Moorish Sovereign citizens and Black Hebrews.

Ammonitida posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Wow a made up term to complain about black people. Who would have guess that coming from this admin.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/inside-the-moorish-sovereign-citizen-movement-that-motivated-the-baton-rouge-cop-killer/

And the study began last year, under Obama.

If they were just classing Moorish sovereign citizen as one. That would be other story. but this admin is going after black Identity. A term that came up with themselves.
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

cjsdowg posted...

Wow a made up term to complain about black people. Who would have guess that coming from this admin.

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/inside-the-moorish-sovereign-citizen-movement-that-motivated-the-baton-rouge-cop-killer/

And the study began last year, under Obama.

If they were just classing Moorish sovereign citizen as one. That would be other story. but this admin is going after black Identity. A term that came up with themselves.

It's just an umbrella term for a collection of black extremist movements, much like WIE refers to Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists.

Ammonitida posted...

It's just an umbrella term for a collection of black extremist movements, much like WIE refers to Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists.

These are words that mean something . This black Identity shit is made up.
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

It's just an umbrella term for a collection of black extremist movements, much like WIE refers to Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists.

These are words that mean something . This black Identity shit is made up.

Black Hebrews are not made up, and one of their adherents shot at a police station in Indianapolis and murdered an elderly white man last year.

Ammonitida posted...

Black Hebrews are not made up, and one of their adherents shot at a police station in Indianapolis and murdered an elderly white man last year.

Michael German, a former FBI agent and now Brennan Center fellow, told the outlet: Basically, its black people who scare them.

A former senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security reviewed the report for the news outlet and said BIE is a new umbrella designation that has no basis...There are civil rights and privacy issues all over this.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-black-identity-extremism-threat-white-supremacists-black-lives-matter-a7988486.html
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The Admiral posted...

liberal

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Lol @ the salt in this topic. Leftys really showing their true colours itt
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YourDrunkFather posted...

Lol @ the salt in this topic. Leftys really showing their true colours itt

You're the only one who seems salty tbh
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So what's the issue here? Black Supremacists have been a thing since Malcolm X, and this keeps the FBI from having to put BLM as a whole on a watchlist. Are people this angry because they made up a new umbrella term, or are we supposed to pretend that Black Supremacists don't exist?
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YourDrunkFather posted...

Lol @ the salt in this topic. Leftys really showing their true colours itt

They did that last November

Samurontai posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Lol @ the salt in this topic. Leftys really showing their true colours itt

You're the only one who seems salty tbh

Ya ok lol
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Black Hebrews are not made up, and one of their adherents shot at a police station in Indianapolis and murdered an elderly white man last year.

Michael German, a former FBI agent and now Brennan Center fellow, told the outlet: Basically, its black people who scare them.

A former senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security reviewed the report for the news outlet and said BIE is a new umbrella designation that has no basis...There are civil rights and privacy issues all over this.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-black-identity-extremism-threat-white-supremacists-black-lives-matter-a7988486.html

Wow, a leftwing rag found a few ignorant leftists who are upset that the FBI dared to shed light on BIE movements whose rhetoric partly drove several madmen to murder 9 people last year.

s0nicfan posted...

So what's the issue here? Black Supremacists have been a thing since Malcolm X, and this keeps the FBI from having to put BLM as a whole on a watchlist. Are people this angry because they made up a new umbrella term, or are we supposed to pretend that Black Supremacists don't exist?

Type the term in google. This FBI report has triggered the whole leftwing. It's so sad. I guess we're supposed to pretend that these movements don't exist and that the 9 murders attributed to their adherents last year never happened. Hell, The Root entertained that with this gem on Micah Johnson.

http://www.theroot.com/micah-xavier-johnson-5-questions-about-the-alleged-dal-1790855996

These questions may seem to veer into conspiracy-theory territory, but black people in America have been gaslighted for so long that we rightfully require more than the word of police officers to believe any story, especially one full of holes and used to silence a movement, vilify a cause and destroy black people's determination to be free of an oppressive, carceral state.

Does this mean that Johnson was innocent? Absolutely not. It does mean, however, that we don't know that he was guilty. It does mean that, as Toni Morrison taught us, "The function, the very serious function of racism, is distraction. It keeps you from doing your work. It keeps you explaining, over and over again, your reason for being."

Ammonitida posted...

Wow, a leftwing rag found a few ignorant leftists who are upset that the FBI dared to shed light on BIE movements whose rhetoric partly drove several madmen to murder 9 people last year.

Michael German, a former FBI agent and senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security

So you just going to discount what they say just like that lol.
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Wow, a leftwing rag found a few ignorant leftists who are upset that the FBI dared to shed light on BIE movements whose rhetoric partly drove several madmen to murder 9 people last year.

Michael German, a former FBI agent and senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security

So you just going to discount what they say just like that lol.

So what's the issue here? Black Supremacists have been a thing since Malcolm X, and this keeps the FBI from having to put BLM as a whole on a watchlist. Are people this angry because they made up a new umbrella term, or are we supposed to pretend that Black Supremacists don't exist?
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good. about time. =)
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Fishy posted...

A white guy shoots up a crowd with no clear reason at all and it's white supremacy.

A black man shoots up a church in retaliation for white crimes and leaves a note specifically saying so and it's just a mystery why he would ever do it.

Shiposting MAXIMUM OVERDRIIIIVE
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DezCaughtIt posted...

Shiposting MAXIMUM OVERDRIIIIVE: The topic

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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Wow, a leftwing rag found a few ignorant leftists who are upset that the FBI dared to shed light on BIE movements whose rhetoric partly drove several madmen to murder 9 people last year.

Michael German, a former FBI agent and senior counterterrorism and intelligence official from the Department of Homeland Security

So you just going to discount what they say just like that lol.

Appealing to authority is noted. The facts are what matters here, and BIE do exist and their adherents murdered 9 people and injured more in 2016 in at least 6 separate attacks

Ammonitida posted...

Appealing to authority is noted. The facts are what matters here, and BIE do exist and their adherents murdered 9 people and injured more in 2016 in at least 6 separate attacks
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You literally used an ad hominem to attack them. Pointing out their qualifying to country the ad hominem is not applying to authority. It is pointing that are more then what you claimed they were.
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CarlGrimes posted...

DreadedWave posted...

Remember that time a "Black Identity Extremist" ran over some protesters?

Me neither.

I remember this though.
http://tinyurl.com/ju6ejn4

I also remember the guy who shot up the church in Charleston, the guy who shot up the movie theater, the kids who shot up the school in Colorado, the guy who shot up a school filled with children, the guy who bombed a building in Oklahoma, and have read many stories about people who lynched others simply for their skin color while police and government officials turned away.
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This country was taken by terrorists

FBI only cares because it's a potential danger to cops. Forget the people though. Since our history white terrorism has been the biggest terrorist threat.
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Apologies if this has been answered, but do they have white extremists listed as well?

If so, Ive got no problem with this. If not, then its pretty sketchy.
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Appealing to authority is noted. The facts are what matters here, and BIE do exist and their adherents murdered 9 people and injured more in 2016 in at least 6 separate attacks
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You literally used an ad hominem to attack them. Pointing out their qualifying to country the ad hominem is not applying to authority. It is pointing that are more then what you claimed they were.

I called them ignorant because they chose to ignore the facts as detailed in the FBI report and whine about this "fearing black people" nonsense. Their credentials do not trump the facts which establish that BIE exist and that they murdered 9 people in 2016.

Mr_Biscuit posted...

Apologies if this has been answered, but do they have white extremists listed as well?

If so, Ive got no problem with this. If not, then its pretty sketchy.

Not in this particular report, but the FBI has plenty of other reports on white supremacist movements. What's that SJW saying? "Not everything is about you".

Ammonitida posted...

I called them ignorant because they chose to ignore the facts as detailed in the FBI report and whine about this "fearing black people" nonsense. Their credentials do not trump the facts which establish that BIE exist and that they murdered 9 people in 2016.

The fact is this term is bull shit. This is the same type of reasoning that they used to the track Civil Right leaders .
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cjsdowg posted...

Ammonitida posted...

I called them ignorant because they chose to ignore the facts as detailed in the FBI report and whine about this "fearing black people" nonsense. Their credentials do not trump the facts which establish that BIE exist and that they murdered 9 people in 2016.

The fact is this term is bull shit. This is the same type of reasoning that they used to the track Civil Right leaders .

It's sad that people think that "Moorish Sovereign Citizens" is a civil rights movement and not an extremist hate movement.

Ammonitida posted...

It's sad that people think that "Moorish Sovereign Citizens" is a civil rights movement and not an extremist hate movement.

When did I say such a thing?
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Sportsaholic posted...

the guy who shot up the movie theater, the kids who shot up the school in Colorado, the guy who shot up a school filled with children, the guy who bombed a building in Oklahoma,

So those were all because of white supremacy?
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mah genocide! let's take more precautions!
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When did CE turn into /pol/? Like fucking hell man?
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CarlGrimes posted...

Sportsaholic posted...

the guy who shot up the movie theater, the kids who shot up the school in Colorado, the guy who shot up a school filled with children, the guy who bombed a building in Oklahoma,

So those were all because of white supremacy?

Nah, the point I was making is that white males are the most dangerous threat for terrorism in the US.
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Sportsaholic posted...

CarlGrimes posted...

Sportsaholic posted...

the guy who shot up the movie theater, the kids who shot up the school in Colorado, the guy who shot up a school filled with children, the guy who bombed a building in Oklahoma,

So those were all because of white supremacy?

Nah, the point I was making is that white males are the most dangerous threat for terrorism in the US.

Your point is wrong no matter how you choose to make it.

If we define terrorism based on attacks that are ideologically driven (proper definition), the greatest threat and highest death toll this century is Islamic terrorism.

If we define terrorism as large-scale, random acts of violence (like the Vegas shooter), the greatest threat is by FAR black gang violence.

If we want to compare the rates of mass shootings by race, white people are less likely per capita to commit one of these atrocities than blacks.

Pretty much any way you slice it, your claims that whites are the greatest threat is unsupportable. I'm very sorry that reality conflicts with your desired narrative.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Statistically, you're far more likely to be shot by a white person than a black gang member.

Unless you're black right?
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CrimsonRage posted...

The Admiral posted...

If we define terrorism as large-scale, random acts of violence (like the Vegas shooter), the greatest threat is by FAR black gang violence.

Black gang violence tends to mostly affect other black gangs. They aren't shooting up shopping malls or theatres or concerts etc. They're killing each other in turf wars and drive-bys.

Black gangs are dangerous to you if you're in another black gang.

Statistically, you're far more likely to be shot by a white person than a black gang member.

Statistically, black people commit over half the murders (and an even greater number of the shooting murders) in the U.S. despite being 13% of the population. There is absolutely no statistic that supports your claim that any group comes close to presenting as great of a risk of shooting you.
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apocalyptic_4 posted...

Are their good people on both sides?

lol and XD at using "their" instead of "there"
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The Admiral posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

The Admiral posted...

If we define terrorism as large-scale, random acts of violence (like the Vegas shooter), the greatest threat is by FAR black gang violence.

Black gang violence tends to mostly affect other black gangs. They aren't shooting up shopping malls or theatres or concerts etc. They're killing each other in turf wars and drive-bys.

Black gangs are dangerous to you if you're in another black gang.

Statistically, you're far more likely to be shot by a white person than a black gang member.

Statistically, black people commit over half the murders (and an even greater number of the shooting murders) in the U.S. despite being 13% of the population. There is absolutely no statistic that supports your claim that any group comes close to presenting as great of a risk of shooting you.

Wow. This is so fucking ignorant.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Fishy posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

Statistically, you're far more likely to be shot by a white person than a black gang member.

Unless you're black right?

I just said a black gang member is more likely to be shot by another black gang member.

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Admiral is not a black gang member.

So him fearing blacks more when he is more likely to be killed by a white gunman is irrational.

Are you trying to tailor your point to me personally now? Okay, I'll play along.

I live in New York City. According to the NYPD, 97% of shootings are committed by blacks or Hispanics:

http://goo.gl/hBTc2c

So, you're absolutely, 100%, embarrassingly wrong about where the shooting threat is.
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CrimsonRage posted...

I mean, if you commute to work through a black or Hispanic neighbourhood, then yeah, maybe your chances of death by minority gunman goes up a bit higher, but in general, a white shooter is still your biggest threat.

> 97% of NYC shootings are committed by minorities
> "You're more likely to be shot by a white person"

#ThingsLiberalsSay
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Admiral embarrassing himself more than I've ever seen before.
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The Admiral posted...

> 97% of NYC shootings are committed by minorities
> "You're more likely to be shot by a white person"

#ThingsLiberalsSay

In the very narrow definition of mass shooting they've created they're not wrong. You see when a minority shoots up a bunch of other minorities it's gang violence but not counted as a mass shooting.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Admiral embarrassing himself more than I've ever seen before.

I'm sure this genius can easily refute my points with statistics or a well-reasoned argument rather than just crying like a child. I'll wait.
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The Admiral posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Admiral embarrassing himself more than I've ever seen before.

I'm sure this genius can easily refute my points with statistics or a well-reasoned argument rather than just crying like a child. I'll wait.

You're gonna wait a long time, and the fact that you can't tell the difference between laughing and crying is making me laugh even harder. What the fuck world do you live in where there "rules" for how to argue and everyone is obligated to comply with them. Your argument was already refuted by the statistic another user already posted that you completely ignored. I'm not going to argue with you on your level. It's restrictive and uniform and you do it that way because you want to control the narrative. It really is embarrassing. Demanding statistics while ignoring statistics from your own article and subjectively defining "well-reasoned" under a false pretext of objectivity. Are you some kind of control freak?
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Look the the interracial crime statistics, then go to ****
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